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Adam and Eve Revised

What I realize is that before you can cure the ills of our people, you have to first heal the relationships between Black men and Black women. The bulk of blogs and postings are on and about relationships. So that my response is understood, not necessarily accepted, I am posting this blog explaining the foundation of my philosophy.

Adam and Eve Revised

The parables in the Old and New Testaments, although they are meant to simplify God's messages are all left up to our own interpretations. Some choose to leave that up to their spiritual advisors. Others, like myself, have their own interpretations.

My interpretation on this topic is just my perception, it is not meant to give the impression that this is my understanding. My intention is not to sound blasphemous, but to have faith in someone else's interpretation is wishful thinking. I hope that the manner in which I live my life and how I practice my beliefs make me worthy of God's forgiveness.

In the beginning God created Life, and She create Lilith in Her image.

Yes! My God is a Woman. Man can neither birth nor nurse a baby. Men
are exactly what we have been created for to provide for and to
protect. The Amazon race of women was believed to be absent of
men. Today all of this is possible with artificial insemination, in vitro fertilization and the cloning an egg from an egg. Man can only provide sperm if the woman accepts it. The question has been asked, What came first, the chicken or the egg? One thing is for sure, Adam never laid an egg.

Giving a gender to God is questionable, but if God is All of All, then
God is both genders male and female. This point of view could definitely serve to support the bis*xual person. I am not talking about the exhibitionist, nor the economic and social opportunist. What I feel is that God's feminine nurturing side is the Creator.


pg. 2 Adam and Eve...


There are a lot of different interpretations of Lilith, but not in the testaments. This is mine.

Lilith being alone in Eden, God then created Adam. Adam was to provide for and to protect Lilith, and in return Lilith was to be submissive to Adam. Lilith feeling that she was first and had been surviving alone, objected to submitting to Adam, and she left Adam. When Lilith refused to return to Adam, God cast her out of Eden. Now, Lilith was at odds with Adam.

In some interpretations, Lilith mated with Satan and became the Queen of Darkness, mother of Dracula.

God sees that Adam needs a mate to provide for and to protect in order to feel fulfilled, She created Eve. Eve (woman), possessing the same ego as Lilith, was created from AdamÕs rib so that she would be more submissive to Adam (man).

The problem was that unprotected (or neglected) by Adam, Eve was submissive to the Serpent (Satan), or one of Lilith's offspring. Eve, coming with the feeling of Understanding to Adam, thus persuaded him to disobey God's Command. They too were banished from Eden.

To me, the original sin that Christ died for was adultery, because God gave Eve to Adam. To make matters worse, Eve gave her first child to Adam as his. Adam and Eve's first child Cain was the son of the Serpent, or the offspring of Lilith.

Outside of Eden was chaos, and Adam and Eve had to adapt and to nurture their family. Sibling rivalry was the reason for Abel's death, Adam's son, by the hand of his brother Cain. Afterwards, the suggestion is that all of Adam's other children were with Eve.

pg. 3 Adam and Eve...

Following the timeline of events, the world became more evil lacking order and humanity, so God destroyed the world.

Today my intent is to focus specifically on the state of our Black families by using the symbolism of Adam / man and Eve / woman regarding their roles as parents.

Because of slavery, Black men were systematically deprived of being able to fulfill their purpose of providing for and protecting their families. Black women, surviving by any means necessary, matured not to have a need for their men. Too many of these women with this attitude, I consider to be the daughters of Lilith, who will not be submissive and with every opportunity, these women emasculate their men and sons.

Those whom I consider to be the daughters of Eve are those women willing to self-sacrifices for the betterment of their children and to be submissive to their men, who in turn are expected to provide for and to protect their families. But some of these women have to be reassured that their man is going to keep her and her children secure to remain supportive, or they too may be led astray like Eve.

Now the responsibility that all women must answer to is their choice to have or not to have children, and with whom. The suffering of child bearing and rearing is the penance for EveÕs sin. The umbilical cord is that connection that the man does not have as a bond. So regardless of what part the man plays in the life of a child, the woman is fully responsible for her pregnancy, unless she is forced against her will. For too long, too many daughters of Eve are become more like Lilith, acting selfishly and neglecting their responsibility to their children, especially the male child.




pg. 4 Adam and Eve...


I am not excusing the sons of Adam, but with so many things working against them, a lot of men are succumbing to the challenges: first there is the system; next you have the ante-man, who are loving each other; then the anti-man, the woman who wants to act like a man and hates men; also there are the daughters of Lilith, who will never submit to a man; and last there are the daughters of Eve, who have given up trying.

Too many Black women today do not seem to be willing to make the commitment to motherhood like the women of the past. The man can only be the head of the family when the woman allows him to be. Then she may be willing to be submissive to him, only if he is able to provide for and to protect his family.

Since I believe that the woman is in control of the relationship, the man has to be reassured that his sacrifice of providing for and protecting the family is honored and respected. If not, men will continue to walk away and mistreat women. If the man is out doing all that he can for his family, then the woman is the primary role model and teacher for the children; again the man is the support.

I remember at school one year, when we had a visiting guest artist from The Gambia speak to the students during an auditorium assembly, and one student asked, "What rights did kids have in your country?" His response was that the children of his country had but two rights: one, listen to the father and to do whatever the mother tells them to do.

We need to get our families back to the state where both mothers and fathers are fulfilling their role as caregivers of God's children.

Communication is essential, but one good thing about writing is that you have the opportunity to express your opinion without interruptions and defending your position.

Ivan Butcher II
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awww Lilith... I studied a little about her in Philosophy... but I thought she was destroyed because of her wickedness...
Monday, May 27th 2013 at 6:22PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Cynthia,

Can’t you tell that man was created first and then woman second? You can’t change things around just to suit your emotions.

Woman was created second for very reason that it is woman that God intended to have man’s baby while man was created to scale the walls of all of God’s creation.

You are out of your silly mind.

Monday, May 27th 2013 at 6:54PM
Harry Watley
thank you silly Harry... Now, how did you get all of that out of my one sentence? I said I studied about her in one of my classes... I never stated anything more than that!


Monday, May 27th 2013 at 7:01PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
and as for my emotions... one thing I know is God looks out for babies and fools!! And you my friend aint no baby!!

and maybe Lilith is the beginning of your family line.... after all you are a slitherin rat snake!
Monday, May 27th 2013 at 7:06PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
ok...Mr. Ivan waiting on your response to the questions on your blog....


Thursday, June 6th 2013 at 10:49AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Greetings Ms. Cynthia, I am not sure what question you are referring too...

If it is what I am looking for forgiveness, I really am lost for an answer since I am stating my opinion on the relationship issues between black men and black women.

I would categorize myself as a son of Adam since I have been a protector and provider for the women in my life, for the most part.
Thursday, June 6th 2013 at 11:03AM
Ivan Butcher II
In response to Harry, the women in his life would be the best ones to testify to whether he has treated them in a Godly manner.

In truth, I see God in everyone until they show me the Devil in them.
Thursday, June 6th 2013 at 2:56PM
Ivan Butcher II
awww... I see.... So let me ask you this.... Why the reference to Lilith? From my studies she was destroyed because of her wickedness towards Adam.... I can't recall reading anything wherein she begat children.

And of course, all of this is simply opinions and beliefs... I too look for the good in people... but we ALL know that ugliness is indeed a character trait for some people....

Thursday, June 6th 2013 at 3:10PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
"I too look for the good in people... but we ALL know that ugliness is indeed a character trait for some people.." Then it ( meaning the evil in man ) would have to be of God as well since we are created in Her image and likeness. I wrote an article addressing this issue,

Has Man Become GOD's Frankenstein ?

To even ask this question there will be those who will cry, Heresy!

No matter what your religious / spiritual beliefs are or are not, one truth is that there is a Positive and a Negative to all actions and deeds.

Look at the global inhumanity, today!

"If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other."
Mother Teresa

"We have not come into the world to be numbered; we have been created for a purpose; for great things: to love and be loved."
Mother Teresa

As a youth, I was raised in the church and attended Catholic school, and I believed in what I was being taught. Easter is soon upon us, and this being a Christian community, what I find disturbing is that those self-proclaimed Christians who still hold on to the old prejudices of the past are making mockery of the death of Christ and His sacrifice.

I ask was Christ's Sacrifice a Dream Deferred?

Like Dr. Frankenstein, has God created a monster?

Ivan Butcher II

Thursday, June 6th 2013 at 3:26PM
Ivan Butcher II
Cynthia,

Lilth as I have read was in the same garden Adam and Eve were in before she was kicked out and this is where her story begins. Some have the theory /belief that Lilth was the mother of the vampire, Dracula.

I am of the belief that Adam and Eve were ancient astronauts ( much like the Star Tex adventures) they were abandoned here. A good reading: Chariot of the Gods.

Yes, I believe we are not here alone.

I am an art major and the recorded history and artifacts from around the world supports this theory.

Thursday, June 6th 2013 at 3:41PM
Ivan Butcher II
Cynthia and Mr. Butcher,

Jesus was not a dream differed.

Jesus turned his back on the honor and purpose his people produced for and he turned his back on what God anointed him for so he became useless to his people and God because went to the Gentiles and so Jesus was crucified.

When Jesus realized what he had done he prayed in the Garden of Gethsemane that God would forgive him and let the cup of crucifixion past him by, but God did not forgive him.

You all have it all wrong! Be sides, the Jewish Jesus, God and the Jewish people has nothing to do with us Black Americans because we are racially different.

Thursday, June 6th 2013 at 4:12PM
Harry Watley
Mr. Watly, This is your understanding.

Personally I follow no doctrine.

What I have taken from the teachings of Christ was that he opened himself up to all beliefs and then shared his understanding of them.

I see this as the role of all of God's creations. And, this is my understanding, not a belief.

My take on Religion:


Religion: The Pillar of Human Decency

In addressing the sins of the Virgin Islands, religion stands alone.

One would think that the fact that there are so many religious denominations represented here in the Virgin Islands, our sins wouldn't be so blatant. I am often asked what I am: Christian, Muslim, Rastafarian, Buddhist, or Israelite, and my reply is that, I am Human. I practice no religion.

God The Creator gave us two gifts: The breath of life and free will. Religion takes away free will. Religion is mankind's cultural way of paying Homage to God.

As I see it, Religion has been the blight on the world. Some will react, saying that is blasphemy. When any religion dishonors a child of God, simply because they do not worship the way they do, it is a Sin onto God.
Those who preach the Word of GOD and who are guilty of The Seven Deadly Sins - Pride, Greed, Envy, Anger, Lust, Gluttony, and Sloth are the true blasphemers.

The Seven Deadly Sins of Religion here in the Virgin Islands are as follows:

Pride: Now if there was ever a group of individuals who need to learn the virtue of humility, it would be the clergy. In my life time, the one person that represented all of what I believe to be our purpose in God's Eyes was Mother Teresa. The Messiah will not return in a three-piece suit.

Greed: I often wonder how the Church can knowingly accepted blood, sweat and tears money tithed to it from those who dishonestly exploit the people of the Territory.

Envy: This has to be how the different denominations compete,
discriminate and often misrepresent what other Religions believe.




pg. 2 Religion: The Pillar...



Anger: Maligning individuals who fall into sin and excommunicate them is not very spiritual. Although it may have been how Adam and Eve were handle after sinning against God's Will, but it has also been written, Vengeance is mine, said The Lord.

Lust: It is sad to admit that, although it is not highly publicized, we have clergy guilty of molestation and rape. In some cases it is not just children. There are also those lost Souls looking for guidance and comfort who are being s*xually abused or misused.



Gluttony: Not only has the Church accepted ill-gotten gains, they are getting fat. The church collects charity, donations, tithes and tax exempt status and gives what back to the community, other than maybe to their own parishioners? Why are their doors closed after school and over the weekends and holidays when they could be serving the children?

Sloth: There is a total lack of involvement in a meaningful way to address these dire conditions we are facing here in the Virgin Islands, when they should be the beacon for the community.

Again there are many more examples I and many of you can contribute to this list.

The question has been asked, How can we fix it? By Looking into the Mirror!

Ivan Butcher II
St.Croix

Friday, June 7th 2013 at 10:26AM
Ivan Butcher II

thank you mr.Butcher for: "I am an art major and the recorded history and artifacts from around the world supports this theory."

is that euroPEON art neoART or AFRO/ASIAN art?

anyhow----seems like great readings of euroCENTRIC thinking ------mr.Butcher and harry

the problem though, I believe, is that ALL 2013 EDUCATED people in History, Scholarship and Science REALIZE that GENESIS is from Africa

AND
--- Creator of Adaam(as)
----should Logically give Words/Communication from an African CENTRIC perspective

that euroCENTRIC tale DEVELOPED for paganChristian slaverAmericana should
--- probably be SUPPLEMENTED by an AFRICAN CENTRIC thought before Star Trek......

Lets Believe as MOST Monotheistic Believers -- Believe--- that the CREATOR of Adaam(as) made the Family of Adaam(as) -- before -- Haawaah(eve) was needed to comfort Adaam(as) and maintain or help his Family............

now ?----- Lilith---Liliputan --- liza--- DONT KNOW of her..............?


Friday, June 7th 2013 at 10:28AM
powell robert
Mr. Powell, I referring the cultural artifacts that have been stolen and hidden in the Vatican and the homes of the wealthy.

In my humble opinion for the Church's penance and retribution to mankind for Its' indiscretions, putting it discreetly, should be to give back to each nation their stolen cultural artifacts and treasures that the Vatican holds, with interest.

In addition, aiding these nation in setting up the infrastructure to house, to protect and to display for the world to view, boosting their economies and the self-esteem of the people of these nations.

Them maybe the world could begin to believe that they are true followers of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Friday, June 7th 2013 at 10:33AM
Ivan Butcher II

mr.Butcher

doesn't ART in the Vatican
------DEVELOPED by euroPEANS DEPICT African AND Asian History, Scholarship and Science from a latinJesus European -----perspective

and NOT an African or Asian Perspective of themselves?

and if they DEPICTED themselves

Might the WORLD then begin to believe createdGENESIS
...and NOT latinJesus christISM.......






Friday, June 7th 2013 at 10:47AM
powell robert
Mr. Powell, I referring to art their commissioned artist, but the things that were taken during the colonization era.

I was taught in Catholic school as a youth that these artifacts "protected" ( hidden) in the basement vaults of the Vatican. Now my understanding is that the reason is that these relics would challenge their church doctrine.
Friday, June 7th 2013 at 11:03AM
Ivan Butcher II
Greeting: Ivan Butcher II
Interesting post I enjoyed reading it very much, but from a chronological stand point and biblical time line with reference to Adam and eve those who believe the Adam and eve story also believe the world is 2013 years old, that is according to the bible

Thursday, June 13th 2013 at 4:53PM
Sylvainy Soso
Listen to me!

Dummies! The Biblical Adam and Eve is a Jewish couple. How I know this is because all of the descendents of Adam and Eve were Jewish people all the way to the Jewish Jesus.

Secondly, it was Moses who told story of Adam and Eve and Moses was a Jewish man. It was a motivational speech. The Children of Israel who are Jewish people were just coming out of captivity in Egypt and Moses was propping up the back bone of his Jewish people. So, Moses told his Jewish people how God created the Jewish people and you nit-wits thinks the Jewish people created you all.

Black Americans were not created out of the story of the Jewish! You dumb Negroes can’t do anything for your selves and by your selves. You all always have to have some to follow behind.

I know that the same way the Jewish and Arabian people got to God Black Americans has to get to God the same way. No people can lead another people to God.

You all have no brains! The things that I am telling you all is common divine sense.

Black Americans must have our own prophet, religion and our own Bible that speaks about us just like the Christian Bible speaks about the Jews and European Gentiles and the Quran speaks about the Arabian people our Book will speak about us Black Americans.

Thursday, June 13th 2013 at 8:52PM
Harry Watley
Shame on you Harry,

I have mentioned that I follow and practice no Religious doctrine.

Because so many believers follow biblical stories, I used these characters from the bible to try to summarize the relationship issues between black men and black women.

Now, you contribute by calling everyone derogatory names, which goes to show that you are just as bad as those religious zealous who got all the answers.

You sound like a son of Lilith
Thursday, June 13th 2013 at 10:22PM
Ivan Butcher II
Hello Mr. Butcher,

If you were intelligent the name calling would not have stopped you in your tracks. If you were on to some good you could easily be turned around should the person name call. That would not happen to me. I would first look for what is being said and objectively try to understand so if I disagree I could intelligently say why I disagree.

You are such a dummy that you don’t know what I am saying because you were turned around just by the name calling which is justified.

And, if you had any sense you would have a religion and the right religion because it is through religion a particular people communicates with God.

I am Black America’s first genuine prophet and I have a religion. My religion is called LIFE and this religion is the religion of all Black Americans including you Mr. Butcher.

What I and every one else wants to know is whether I am right or wrong about the things I say and not about name calling dummy. Now tell me if I am right or wrong about Adam and Eve being a Jewish couple.

So, it is not shame on me. It is shame on you!

Friday, June 14th 2013 at 6:32AM
Harry Watley
Greetings Harry,

It's individuals like you that have turn me and many others away from structured Religion. Now you know what is best for my salvation, well the one thing I have taken away from the religious exposure I had as a youth was that I am my own Savior.

You could hardly turn me off with your name calling, in fact, what you have done is to help solidify my position toward those like you with all the answers.

I could care less who, what or where Adam and Eve originated, to me I treat this topic just as if it was one of those Anansi tales meant to impart a message, much like those other "Holy Books'" stories.

But then again, I can be wrong, and I will have to live with it.

Trust me if I were to take the role you feel you have, after listen to you your followers would find more reasoning with my perspective on this topic.

I have met many self-proclaim prophets and you are no different, Sons and Daughters of Lilith, AND YOU are the problem in our Black communities, Know It All in the name of God.

Talking about someone who is stopped in his tracks, just look at how you have reacted.

Shame on you Harry, Son of Lilith.
Friday, June 14th 2013 at 7:50AM
Ivan Butcher II

too deep? based on what?

the question that you all you ask ---

is 2013 GENESIS, the same as 3000 BC GENESIS, or the 0.1AD GENESIS; OR the 300AD GENESIS, or the slaverAMericana 1492-1864 GENESIS?

is the latinJesus of slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964)?

THE SAME, latinJesus of 0.1 AD?

or THE SAME latinJesus of 300AD?

or THE SAME latinJesus of 2013?

cause your Arguments have something to do with AUTHENTICITY

after you answer those questions TELL BIA what is AUTHENTIC


Saturday, June 15th 2013 at 2:57PM
powell robert
Hello Mr. Butcher,

There is no such thing as structural religion. Religions are different because people are racially different. Each religion belongs to a specific race of people.
For instance, Judaism belongs only to the Jewish people. Judaism was Jesus religion. Islam only belongs to the Arabian people. It was an Arab man named Prophet Mohammed who brought the Islamic religion only to his Arabian people.

So, there is no such thing as structural religion. You are wrung.

Again, was Adam and Eve a Jewish couple?

Saturday, June 15th 2013 at 7:13PM
Harry Watley
Greetings Harry,

Thank you for the information you have shared, and I respect you and others who practice and attend houses of worship, but I don't and I feel too that religion is man's cultural way of worshipping the Creator.

I too do believe in God our Creator.

I read a question by an atheist, who asked, what is it I and others understand that atheist are not the ones murdering and killing in the name of God?

I also feel that Religion has been the Blight on the world.

My article is not about religion, as an artist I have taken license to use a popular biblical story to address the relationship issue in the black community.

Others can comment on the points you and Powell have posted.
Saturday, June 15th 2013 at 7:52PM
Ivan Butcher II

to depict divine a COLOR, in a world of COLORS is obscene.............

what YOU, YOUR blag about adam and eve revisited for WHAT.............?

continued racistIGNORANCE?

----- you want to ARTISTICALLY portray, adam, eve, Lilith and the snake as "black" or "red"

Pleeze, the 'whiteBlack' divine REPRESENTERS of the PAST, have HELPED no COMMUNITY

in FACT a STEREOTYPE of colorWorshipping 'whiteBlack' identifiers is NO COURAGE

comment with selfProfessed 68 IQ harry on that.............


Saturday, June 15th 2013 at 11:11PM
powell robert
Mr. Butcher,

You still have not answered my question. Was the Biblical Adam and Eve a Jewish couple?



Sunday, June 16th 2013 at 1:50PM
Harry Watley
Greetings Harry,

I did answer your question, they were astronauts.

The real truth, " I don't care, who or where they were from."
Sunday, June 16th 2013 at 2:52PM
Ivan Butcher II
Hello Mr. Butcher,

You are being stupid by giving these stupid answers that the Biblical Adam and Eve were astronauts because I have your weak back up against the wall! No one is spiritually wiser than I am because I am Black America’s first genuine prophet.

Saturday, February 15th 2014 at 12:29AM
Harry Watley
Greetings Harry,

Your last message reminds me of an old children's saying, "It takes One to know One!"

Blessings on to you Harry!
Saturday, February 15th 2014 at 11:14AM
Ivan Butcher II
I DID SO ENJOY READING YOUR POST, BUT...

IVAN, MY I ASK ABOUT WHAT IS IT YOU ASK FORGIVENESS FOR? (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
...NOW IF "I" MAY, MY TAKE ON THIS MATTER IS IT ONLY GETS US RIGHT BACK INTOTHE WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL TO THE WHITE CHRISTIAN'S GOD FOR BEING PUT INTO CHATEL SLAVERY BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE COULD RISE ABOVE BEING NONHUMAN IN AFRICA...

THEIR BRINGING US TO AMERICA HAD US WORK / SUFFER IN THIS LIFE SO WE COULD GET SOULS IN THE NEXT LIFE AND WE COULD BE WITH GOD. (NUP/SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

Adam and Eve Revised

SUBJECT

...In the Torah, the Recorded History of the Creator of Adaam(as)

there is NO such term as E V E

……. Adaam(as) is Transliterated English from African Asian Monotheistic Hebrew Language

Lets Believe as MOST African Asian Monotheistic Believers -- Believe.....

….the CREATOR of Adaam(as) made the Family of Adaam(as) -- before --

Haawaah(eve) was needed to comfort Adaam(as) and maintain or help his Family............

…...to depict divine; as a COLOR, in a world of Racist COLORS:..... is obscene.............

The latinRoman extensions of the Hebraic Torah...in neavo is continued racistIGNORANCE?

PLEASE, the 'COLOREDwhiteBlack' divine REPRESENTERS from euroPaganChristian belief of the PAST,

have HELPED no COMMUNITY and Hurt Mightily; the African American Family

….LET US STUDY and Read of African Asian Monotheistic Belief FROM Africa Asia not eurocentrism





Monday, January 13th 2020 at 7:57PM
robert powell
¡­.LET US STUDY and Read of African Asian Monotheistic Belief FROM Africa Asia not eurocentrism

Let us talk from that point of view for a moment.

African Asian Monotheistic Believe in one GOD as do I.

A narrower definition of monotheism is the belief in the existence of only one god that created the world, is all-powerful and intervenes in the world, this too as I believe.

The broader definition of monotheism characterizes the traditions of B¨¢bism, the Bah¨¢ʼ¨ª Faith, Balinese Hinduism, Cao Dai (Caodaiism), Cheondoism (Cheondogyo), Christianity, Deism, Eckankar, Hindu sects such as Shaivism and Vaishnavism, Islam, Judaism, Mandaeism, Rastafari, Seicho no Ie, Sikhism, Tengrism (Tangrism), Tenrikyo (Tenriism), Yazidism, and Zoroastrianism, and elements of pre-monotheistic thought are found in early religions such as Atenism, ancient Chinese religion, and Yahwism.

Now all of these religions believe in one GOD. Did you notice Judaism and Islam was in that group?

Also ROBERT, Judaism is a African Asian Monotheistic Belief, did you notice that?



"Eve" in Hebrew is "Ḥaww¨¡h" and is most commonly believed to mean "living one" or "source of life"




Monday, January 13th 2020 at 8:37PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Dumb-ass Ron the subject is Christ Harry right that the biblical Adam and Eve were the first two Jewish couple God created when God created the Jewish race!

No one has said is I am right or if I am wrong! Everyone is staying away from answering the question were Adam and Eve a Jewish couple.

The subject is not about a brosder defination of monotheism. The question is whether Christ Harry is right when he said that Adam and Eve were a Jewish couple and the first Jewish couple God created is the question.

Prophet Moses who was a Jewish prophet was the first to say that Adam and Eve were a Jewish couple!

Christ Harry!
Tuesday, January 14th 2020 at 4:14AM
Harry Watley

Adam and Eve Revised

SUBJECT

...In the Torah, the Recorded History of the Creator of Adaam(as)

there is NO such term as E V E

……. Adaam(as) is Transliterated English from African Asian Monotheistic Hebrew Language

Lets Believe as MOST African Asian Monotheistic Believers -- Believe.....

….the CREATOR of Adaam(as) made the Family of Adaam(as) -- before --

Haawaah(eve) was needed to comfort Adaam(as) and maintain or help his Family............

…...to depict divine; as a COLOR, in a world of Racist COLORS:..... is obscene.............

The latinRoman extensions of the Hebraic Torah...in Latin is continued racistIGNORANCE?

********************************************************************************

Thank you Mr. Ivan Butcher II....a couple of RACIALISTS...have written above

********************************************************************************

"....LET US STUDY and Read of African Asian Monotheistic Belief FROM Africa Asia not eurocentrism ….

these religions believe in one GOD. Did you notice Judaism and Islam was in that group......

"Eve" in Hebrew is "Ḥaww¨¡h" and is most commonly believed to mean "living one" or "source of life"..."

Monday, January 13th 2020 at 8:37PM
Deacon Ron Gray

********************************************************************************

AGAIN, African Asian Monotheistic belief of the CREATOR of Adaam(as) is RECORDED and EXPRESSED

Originally in African Asian Monotheistic languages.....NOT latin or english-

…...and yes as I wrote above.....

….LET US STUDY and Read of African Asian Monotheistic Belief FROM Africa Asia not eurocentrism

….LET US STUDY and Read of African Asian Monotheistic Belief FROM Africa Asia

WITHOUT the racistlyIgnorant incorrect latin and other Eurocentric languages

…..Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic are the oldest judeoIslaamic meanings of the Family of Adaam(as)


Tuesday, January 14th 2020 at 8:09AM
robert powell
YOUR WORDS: ….LET US STUDY and Read of African Asian Monotheistic Belief FROM Africa Asia not eurocentrism

MY REPLY: Point out in my last reply where I talk about eurocentrism? You can't do that because it is not there to be found. STOP THAT LIE ROBERT


YOUR WORDS: ….LET US STUDY and Read of African Asian Monotheistic Belief FROM Africa Asia

MY REPLY: In the African Asian Monotheistic Belief FROM Africa Asia all believe in ONE GOD and that belief of ONE GOD began in AFRICA, correct?

YOUR WORDS: WITHOUT the racistlyIgnorant incorrect latin and other Eurocentric languages

MY REPLY: Robert, you are now in a English speaking country where the common languages is English

and yes, I agree that Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic are the oldest languages meanings of the Family of Adaam(as)






Tuesday, January 14th 2020 at 8:54AM
Deacon Ron Gray
HARRY, don't you ever tell that LIE ever again that Adam and Eve was a Jewish couple again. You have not presented any proof to back up your claim that Adam and Eve was a Jewish couple, now have you?

Now after all this time, if you would have such proof, you would have presented it by now. If you can prove that Adam and Eve was a Jewish couple, where is your proof?



Can you quote any scripture of The Book of Genesis that tells you that Adam and Eve was a Jewish couple?

As far as you being RIGHT OR WRONG depends if you can find that PROOF.

HARRY, if you can find that proof in The Book of Genesis in the form of scripture stating that Adam and Eve was a Jewish couple, then you will be RIGHT but if you can't find any scripture n The Book of Genesis to back up that claim, then you will be consider WRONG AS HELL for your LYING statement.

HARRY it is all on you to prove your point and if you can't find this proof of yours, then you must confess that you was WRONG, OK!

It is up to you, to prove this point of yours with Scripture of The Book of Genesis that tell us that Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple.

Can you prove your point or are you going to just run away, from me again?


Tuesday, January 14th 2020 at 9:51AM
Deacon Ron Gray
I wonder where those two went...


Tuesday, January 14th 2020 at 5:56PM
Deacon Ron Gray
I see you HARRY, are you going to prove your point because It is up to you, to prove this point of yours with Scripture of The Book of Genesis that tell you that Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple.

Can you prove your point or are you going to just run away, from me again?

I really want you to know who was the first Jew was.




Tuesday, January 14th 2020 at 9:24PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Welcome Harry this is the common ground that I was talking about.

Here you can prove your case that Adam and Eve was the first Jewish Couple without fear of any deletions. I can't delete anything you have to say to prove your point.

What say you HARRY The False Prophet.


Tuesday, January 14th 2020 at 9:51PM
Deacon Ron Gray

Adam and Eve Revised

SUBJECT

...In the Torah, the Recorded History of the Creator of Adaam(as)

there is NO such term as E V E

……. Adaam(as) is Transliterated English from African Asian Monotheistic Hebrew Language

Lets Believe as MOST African Asian Monotheistic Believers -- Believe.....

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Thank you Mr. Ivan Butcher II....BUT off SUBJECT; russianBOT of LYIN Misconception-Deleter/Blocker

....The BIA, Paster of COLORED'whiteSupremacy'...has Posted another Adaam(as) Hebraic Falsehood

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"......Hey False Prophet YOU ARE WRONG AS HELL ABOUT ADAM AND EVE BEING JEWISH

…. LIE about Adam and Eve being The First Jewish Couple.

…. can't you see that you have people coming back to see your reply?

The people on Black In America wants to see how you handle yourself on this topic...…"

Tuesday, January 14th 2020 at 10:38PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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He writes 3-4 Adaam(as) blogs and 5 holyEuropean KingJames bible RACIST Falsehoods

…...About what's COLORED'white' OR what's COLORED'black".....STOP that paganEuro NONSENSE

deaCON views are the same kingJames VIEWS for AfricanAsian slaverAmericana….1776-1864

…….the Eurocentric view that the people of Africa Asian should be raped, tortured and murdered.....

STOP that paganEuro NONSENSE.....that paganChristian englishGenocide-Slaver thought....


Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 8:01AM
robert powell
Robert, do you agree with Harry that Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple?


Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 8:26AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Did you get upset because I called you a False Prophet HARRY?

Prove me wrong if you can HARRY.


Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 8:45AM
Deacon Ron Gray
HARRY, YOUR WORDS: I do know the first Jewish couple God created were Adam and Eve and this information came from a very good reliable source Prophet Moses who himself was a Jew!

All I have been asking you, was to prove to me and the people of Black In America that Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created.

Now you say that you have information came from a very good reliable source Prophet Moses who himself was a Jew!

HARRY, when can I find this very good reliable source. Is it in The Torah, or Five Books of Moses? If so, where?



Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 9:01AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Outside the Bible please let me know where is the Evidence of the existence of an Adam and Eve

Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 9:52AM
Sylvainy Soso
Brother Soso, Good Afternoon to you. To answer your question, this is clearly a biblical interpretation of creation.


Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 2:57PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Brother Deacon Ron Gray
That is not a biblical interpretation of creation that is religious interpretation of creation


Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 4:22PM
Sylvainy Soso

Adam and Eve Revised

SUBJECT

...In the Torah, the Recorded History of the Creator of Adaam(as)

there is NO such term as E V E

……. Adaam(as) is Transliterated English from African Asian Monotheistic Hebrew Language

Lets Believe as MOST African Asian Monotheistic Believers -- Believe.....

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Muslims believe AlIslaam or in Hebrew transliteration Aslaam.. is the Belief of all prophets- Messengers

of the Creator of Adaam(as)….Adaam- Nuh- Ibraham-Musa...to Mohamed(sawm)..

............In AlQur’aan, we read:

In the Chapter of Aal `Imran--- The Family of Maryam(ra)

(Aal `Imran 3:19)............Indeed, the Belief in the sight Creator is AlIslaam

(Aal `Imran 3:67)………………Ibraheem was neither a Jew nor a Christian but he was upright-correct,

a Muslim, and he was not one of the polytheists.

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....The BIA, Paster of COLORED'whiteSupremacy'...from COLORED'whitePagan euroRACISTS'

deaCON 'blackChristianHebrewIsraelites' asks....ME?

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"... Robert, do you agree.....Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple? ……."

Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 8:26AM
Deacon Ron Gray……."

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I, Robert Powell, have NEVER or probably will EVER... agree... with Racistly Ignorant COLORED'blacks"

...THOSE.....COLORED'by whiteSupremist' paganChrisitanity or selfProfessed 68 IQ Retardants that purport

to The BIA, African American Family that they are 'the christ-proPHAT of God'!...NO....NEVER


Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 7:13PM
robert powell
Brother Sylvainy Soso, a religious interpretation of creation. Please explain.


Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 8:12PM
Deacon Ron Gray
So Robert, without going through all of that smoke that you bring with you, are you saying, you don't believe that Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created?


Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 9:44PM
Deacon Ron Gray


I understand you cannot READ English......deaCON of 'blackChristianHebrewIsraelites'

I understand you rely on euroRACIST opinions......deaCON of 'blackChristianHebrewIsraelites'

I understand you seem to be a russianBOT......deaCON of 'blackChristianHebrewIsraelites'

I understand you are a no Intellect, Deleting/blocking Coward of COLORE'whiteSupremist Opinions

.....deaCON of 'blackChristianHebrewIsraelites'

I understand you have NEVER studied any African Asian Monotheistic Belief from the Creator of Adaam(as)

......deaCON of 'blackChristianHebrewIsraelites'

BUT

…….get the 68 IQ Harry or a 3rd grader to READ and to reread my comments above to your simpleMind



Thursday, January 16th 2020 at 8:04AM
robert powell
I understand you cannot WRITE in English because if you could write in English, I would understand WTF you are trying to say.

I never asked this question, so WTF are you talking about, when you said this: ' to The BIA, African American Family that they are 'the christ-proPHAT of God'!...NO....NEVER

Robert, no 3rd grader can understand this BULL💩 of yours and after this cheap shot to derail the topic, you still have not answered my question.

The Question was: "Are you saying, you don't believe that Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created?"

Hey Robert, you are not suffering from Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), are you?

Now direct your attention back to this question.

"Are you saying, you don't believe that Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created?"



Thursday, January 16th 2020 at 10:13AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Brother Deacon Ron Gray
In the Bible did God say he created man

Thursday, January 16th 2020 at 10:55AM
Sylvainy Soso
Brother Soso, YOUR QUESTION: Brother Deacon Ron Gray In the Bible did God say he created man

Brother Soso, if you believe that that The Holy Bible is words the words from YAH (GOD), then the answer is say YES.

In the Bible, God did say he created man and here's my proof in scripture.

In The Book of Genesis Chapter 1 Verse 27 states: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."


Thursday, January 16th 2020 at 11:37AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Brother Deacon Ron Gray
You are quoting Genesis 1: 27 someone is saying is saying God created God never said he /she created

Thursday, January 16th 2020 at 2:02PM
Sylvainy Soso

Adam and Eve Revised

SUBJECT

...In the Torah, the Recorded History of the Creator of Adaam(as)

there is NO such term as E V E

……. Adaam(as) is Transliterated English from African Asian Monotheistic Hebrew Language

Lets Believe as MOST African Asian Monotheistic Believers -- Believe.....

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OFF SUBJECT with the FILTHY, FAKE, Fraud, Cowardly Racist …. NO Hebraic Torah Knowledge

....deaCON russianBOT-'blackChristianHebrewIsraelite'

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".....WTF are you talking about, when you said this:

' to The BIA, African American Family that they are 'the christ-proPHAT of God'!...NO....NEVER

…. this BULL💩 of yours and after this cheap shot to derail the topic

The Question was:

"Are you saying, you don't believe that Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created?"

Hey Robert, you are not suffering from Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), are you? …"

Thursday, January 16th 2020 at 10:13AM
Deacon Ron Gray

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again, for the 4th TIME at this blog...of Ivan Butcher II

"... Robert, do you agree.....Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple? ……."

Wednesday, January 15th 2020 at 8:26AM
Deacon Ron Gray……."

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I, Robert Powell, have NEVER, will EVER... agree... with Racistly Ignorant COLORED'blacks"

...THOSE.....COLORED'by whiteSupremist' paganChrisitanity or selfProfessed 68 IQ Retardants

that purport to The BIA, African American Family that they are 'the christ-proPHAT of God'!

...NO....NEVER

Get a third grader of the Racistly Ignorant education Retardant harry to READ to you.....

….Learn and READ something of African Asian Monotheistic Belief from Africa Asian; sometime...



Friday, January 17th 2020 at 8:52AM
robert powell



I, Robert Powell, have NEVER, will EVER... agree... with Racistly Ignorant COLORED'blacks"

...THOSE.....COLORED'by whiteSupremist' paganChrisitanity or selfProfessed 68 IQ Retardants

that purport to The BIA, African American Family that they are 'the christ-proPHAT of God'!

...NO....NEVER

Get a third grader of the Racistly Ignorant education Retardant harry to READ to you.....


MY REPLY WHERE in your answer that you say anything on the subject of Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created?"


Friday, January 17th 2020 at 8:58AM
Deacon Ron Gray
The question is, was Adam and Eve the first two Jewish couple God created as I Christ Harry said! No one has said I was wrong! I presented proof when I mentioned I stand behind Prophet Moses was a Hebrew himself who presented to the world how, where and when God created the Jewish race from the first two Jewish couple named Adam and Eve.

All other talk are bull-****ing conversations not saying anything because no has clearly said whether I am right of whether I am wrong!

The dumb-ass Ron asked Robert if he believe me that Adam and Eve was the first two Jewish couple God created, but Mr. Ron hasn't said if he believes it but going on giving bull-**** talks about Adam and Eve!

This type of bull-****ing is why I gets out! I don't care for bull-****!
Friday, January 17th 2020 at 12:45PM
Harry Watley
Good Afternoon Harry. I am glad you dropped by. many people here are looking to hear from you. Now are you ready to prove your point?

HARRY, YOUR WORDS: I do know the first Jewish couple God created were Adam and Eve and this information came from a very good reliable source Prophet Moses who himself was a Jew!

All I have been asking you, was to prove to me and the people of Black In America that Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created.

Now you say that you have information came from a very good reliable source Prophet Moses who himself was a Jew, Where is the Scripture in The Book of Genesis or anywhere in The First Five Books of The Holy Bible where your very good reliable source Prophet Moses who himself was a Jew, said that God created the Jewish race from the first two Jewish couple named Adam and Eve.

I say you are WRONG AS HELL about Adam and EVE being the First Jewish Couple. I say that Adam and Eve was NOT JEWISH, at all.

Now HARRY, prove me wrong by showing me and the people here on Black In America scriptures in The First Five Books of The Holy Bible that states: "That Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created." Can you do that on your very next reply HARRY?

Please point to the Bible Scriptures' that support's your claim "That Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created." Can you do that on your very next reply HARRY?



Friday, January 17th 2020 at 6:21PM
Deacon Ron Gray

Adam and Eve Revised

In the beginning God created Life, and She create Lilith in Her image.

Yes! My God is a Woman.

Posted By: Ivan Butcher II
Monday, May 27th 2013 at 5:40PM
You can also click here to view all posts by this author...

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dumb deaCON…..you cannot even READ the SUBJECT of this author.....Mr. Butcher.....!

…..Your Racistly Ignorant russianBOT arse follow my comments …

YET BIA, deaCON of 'blackChristianHebrewIsraelite' NONSENSE

.... BLOCKS and Deletes my commenting on your blags of NONSENSE, Deception and LYIN

AND.... you disrespect Mr. BUTCHER with your NO KNOWLEDGE and LIMP mindThought…..

…..Open your silly blags OR at least when you CHASE after me....respect the Mr. Butchers'.. etal

dumbARSE….selfProfessed 'blackHebrewIsraelite'...RACIST......quasiJEW from Russia !!!



Friday, January 17th 2020 at 7:02PM
robert powell

News Flash Robert, Brother Ivan Butcher II is not in question here, I asked you a question Robert is about Adam and Eve being the first Jewish Couple which you have failed to address yet, WHY?

I, Robert Powell, have NEVER, will EVER... agree... with Racistly Ignorant COLORED'blacks"

...THOSE.....COLORED'by whiteSupremist' paganChrisitanity or selfProfessed 68 IQ Retardants

that purport to The BIA, African American Family that they are 'the christ-proPHAT of God'!

...NO....NEVER

Get a third grader of the Racistly Ignorant education Retardant harry to READ to you.....

Where is your comment about Adam and Eve in your reply?
Friday, January 17th 2020 at 7:48PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Just look at you Robert, talking about who's putting using the heathens tool of diversion

YOUR WORDS: 1.....there is NO Eve in Torah or 0-2020 Judaism!

MY REPLY: I never had a question about EVE Hebrew name Robert, that is something you brought to this discussion in the form of diversion from my original question which you have not answered YET.

YOUR REPLY: 2.....there is NO deaCON and harryRETARDANT... "Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple"

MY REPLY: You got two things going here but I will deal with this: "Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple"

Are you saying that "Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple?" YES or NO

YOUR WORDS: 3......WAS is singular in English-----WERE is plural - More than one.....DUMMY+

MY REPLY: What Are You Talking about? No second thought answer this question: "Are you saying that "Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple?" YES or NO


Friday, January 17th 2020 at 8:53PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Just want I thought HARRY, why can't "YOU" be man enough to talk to me on a neutral blog, where we both can speak freely to one another like two men with any fear of any alterations?

Now you say that you have information, that came from a very good reliable source Prophet Moses who himself was a Jew.

MYREPLY: Where is the Scripture in The Book of Genesis or anywhere in The First Five Books of The Holy Bible where your very good reliable source Prophet Moses who himself was a Jew, said that God created the Jewish race from the first two Jewish couple named Adam and Eve, your lying as can't find that scripture because it is just a LIE and you claim to be a prophet, BULL 💩 you are not from YAH with that mess.

I say you are WRONG AS HELL about Adam and EVE being the First Jewish Couple. I say that Adam and Eve was NOT JEWISH, at all.

I see that you could not provide any scriptures in the first five books of Moses to support your claim that Adam and Eve was Jewish. (LOL)

HARRY, since you have not presented any evidence to back-up your own words, the Adam and Eve was Jewish, then you have proven yourself to be WRONG AS HELL about Adam and Eve being Jewish when Elohim made them.

So, now that you can't provide proof of your claim from scripture in The Holy Bible, because those words from your reliable source can't be found and that was a LIE, when you first said it, that is a LIE and the truth is not in your words anywhere and you knew it and that is the reason why you have been BUSTED for LYING.

Since you can't point to scripture in the first five books of The Holy Bible or The Books of Moses, then you have been proven a LIER by your own words.

HARRY, you don't have to be afraid of me, what you need to do is STOP THAT LIE NOW, because you can't prove that LIE by your so-call reliable source and all you doing is speculating and the sad part about you is, you have access to the truth and you want even take the time to read it. WOW!!! what a MAROON you are HARRY.

One more point, Harry if you keep telling that LIE, then you are willfully doing the work of the Evil one and not from YAH our GOD. WOW!!!






Friday, January 17th 2020 at 11:25PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Is it a fact in Genesis Moses explained “The Lord God formed a man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living being.” That man Adam was Jewish! Prophet Moses cannot speak on the origin of other races. Prophet Moses was Jewish and all he can speak on is the Jewish race.

The PASSOVER celebration ties Prophet Moses to who the real biblical Hebrew/Israelite Jewish people are. They are the people in the State of Israel today!

An intelligent man as myself I know that you cannot prove anything to a FOOL because they can't see even though they have physical eyes and they do not think rationally.

The quote that "The Lord God formed a Jewish man-------" is a direct quote out the book of Genesis Yet the Idiot said I haven't proven that the biblical Adam and Eve were a Jewish couple and all that Prophet Moses can speak on is the Jewish race since Prophet Moses was a Jewish man himself. Am I making sense?


Christ Harry!
Saturday, January 18th 2020 at 7:57AM
Harry Watley

Ivan Butcher II is not in question here,

...IT is Mr. Butchers BLOG and he wrote that...." My God is a Woman"

Posted By: Ivan Butcher II
Monday, May 27th 2013 at 5:40PM

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My comments are to the AUTHOR of the BLOG

...NOT deaCON russianBOT COLORED'blackChristianHebrewIsraelite' Diversionist NONSENSE...

BUT for the 7th TIME at Mr. Butchers's blog AND 3,589th Time at BIA...an African American Family site

1.....there is NO Eve in Torah or 0-2020 Judaism!

2.....there is NO deaCON and harryRETARDANT... "Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple"

3......WAS is singular in English-----WERE is plural - More than one.....DUMMY+

*************************************************************************

PS

…...Eurocentric mind deaCON Russian...…Your Comment Proves 'theBlacks' are Racistly Ignorant....

"Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple?" YES or NO …."

Friday, January 17th 2020 at 8:53PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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….lilith is European..Not of African Asian Monotheistic Belief of the Creator of Adaam(as) in Torah

….eve is European....Not of African Asian Monotheistic Belief of the Creator of Adaam(as) in Torah

Saturday, January 18th 2020 at 9:22AM
robert powell
YOUR WORDS: Is it a fact in Genesis Moses explained “The Lord God formed a man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living being.” That man Adam was Jewish!

HARRY, No, Adam and Eve may not be considered Jewish, in terms of the religion's practices. Judaism as a distinct religion originated with Moses, who may have flourished in the 15th and 14th centuries B.C.E. Judaism did happen until after the FLOOD Harry and that is the reason why you could not find any scripture to back-up that LIE, Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God made.

HARRY: Where in The Holy Bible does it say Prophet Moses cannot speak on the origin of other races. Prophet Moses was Jewish and all he can speak on is the Jewish race,

MY REPLY: Show me and the people here on Black In America that statement of yours in The Holy Bible or The Torah, can you show that scripture to me in your next reply, can you do that Harry?

YOUR WORDS: The PASSOVER celebration ties Prophet Moses to who the real biblical Hebrew/Israelite Jewish people are.

MY REPLY: Moses did NOT celebrate the Passover, NO Moses did what ELOHIM told him to do and that was no celebration HARRY.

Now HARRY is some history about the Passover found in The Book of Exodus 12:1-10 12:1 The LORD told Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, 2 “This month will mark the beginning of months for you. It will be the first month of the year for you. 3 Tell the entire congregation of Israel, ‘On the tenth of this month they’re each to take a lamb for themselves, according to their ancestors’ households, one lamb for each household. 4 If a household is too small for a lamb, then it and its closest neighbor are to obtain one based on the number of individuals—dividing the lamb based on what each person can eat. 5 Your lamb is to be a year old male without blemish. You may take it from the sheep or from the goats. 6 It is to remain under your care until the fourteenth day of this month, and then the entire assembly of the congregation of Israel is to slaughter it at twilight. 7 They’re to take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel of the houses where they eat the lamb. 8 That very night they’re to eat the meat, roasted over the fire, with unleavened bread and bitter herbs. 9 Don’t eat any of it raw or boiled in water. Instead, roast it over the fire, with its head, legs, and internal organs. 10 Don’t leave any of it until morning, and whatever does remain of it until morning you are to burn in the fire.

Newsflash Harry: Adam and Eve lived a long time but there is no recorded history that Adam or MOSES celebrating The Passover ritual.

Now if you think that I am WRONG HARRY, show me and the people here on Black In America the Scriptures in The Holy Bible or The Torah to back-up your words. Can you do that on your next reply, Harry?

As far a you making any Sense HARRY, show me the Scriptures that supports your claim, that would make better sense to me. Until you do that, then NO, You would make better sense when you show me the scripture that backs-up your words.


Saturday, January 18th 2020 at 9:41AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Prophet Moses did not institute the religion Judaism because Moses was not the first Jewish prophet; Prophet Abraham was the first prophet of the Jewish people and it is to the first prophet that bring his people their religion. I taught that point before that it is the first prophet the brings his people their religion.

I am Black America's first prophet and I brought the religion name LIFE to my Black American people!

What have you brought?

Christ Harry!
Saturday, January 18th 2020 at 9:54AM
Harry Watley
YOUR QUESTION HARRY: I am Black America's first prophet and I brought the religion name LIFE to my Black American people!

What have you brought?

MY REPLY: I did not bring this LIE to Black In America.


No!!! NO!!! Harry we are talking about that damn LIE you have been telling our people that Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created.

You never did show me and the people of Black In America any scripture to back-up your very own words about Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created, now did you HARRY?

WHY?

It has been over 24 hours HARRY and you can't produce any Bible scriptures to prove your talking point that, Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple God created,

I want to see your proof in the from of biblical scripture to back up your words and you have failed to do that yet, WHY? I know why. (LOL)

YOUR WORDS: I am the way the truth the light for only the Black American race like Prophet Mohammed was for the Arabian race only and Prophet Jesus was for the Jewish race only.

I have asked you for the truth and all I got was this BULL💩.

Where is the Scripture in The Book of Genesis or anywhere in The First Five Books of The Holy Bible where your very good reliable source Prophet Moses who himself was a Jew, said that God created the Jewish race from the first two Jewish couple named Adam and Eve, your lying as can't find that scripture because it is just a LIE and you claim to be a prophet, BULL 💩 you are not from YAH with that mess.


Sunday, January 19th 2020 at 8:32PM
Deacon Ron Gray

Ivan Butcher II is not in question here,

...IT is Mr. Butchers BLOG and he wrote that...." My God is a Woman"

Posted By: Ivan Butcher II
Monday, May 27th 2013 at 5:40PM

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I apologize Mr. Butcher, for the comments OFF SUBJECT....of 'COLOREDblacks' deaCON and Harry

….I commented on your Blog Subject and did not want to bring the Racistly Ignorant 'blacks'....

*************************************************************************

My comments are to the AUTHOR of the BLOG

...NOT deaCON russianBOT COLORED'blackChristianHebrewIsraelite' Diversionist NONSENSE...

OR that 68 IQ retardant of History....harryCOLORED'blackProPhat'

...BUT for the 8th TIME.....AND 3,590th Time at BIA...an African American Family site

1.....there is NO Eve in Torah or 0-2020 Judaism!

2.....there is NO deaCON and harryRETARDANT... "Adam and Eve was the first Jewish couple"

3.....THERE is NO "reliable" African Asian Monotheistic History, Scholarship or Science from the

Creator of Adaam(as); of an English kingJamesVersion holyBible in AfricanAsian judeoIslaamic Belief

*************************************************************************

this Trashes the Blog of Mr. Butcher.....

"......I have asked you for the truth and all I got was this BULL💩.

Where .. in .....The Holy Bible

where your very good reliable source Prophet Moses who himself was a Jew,

said that God created the Jewish race from the first two Jewish couple named Adam and Eve,

..... BULL 💩 you are not from YAH with that mess. …"

Sunday, January 19th 2020 at 8:32PM
Deacon Ron Gray

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...deaCON russianBOT...STOP your Filth and Decadence writing at BIA, an African American Family site

Everything Created by Hebraic...Ilaah of African Asian Monotheistic Belief is from Ilaah-Allaah

.....even the nonsense, misEDUCATION and racistIgnorance of the deaCON and harry...



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