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By Dana Milbank Opinion writer September 29 at 5:34 PM
At this point Republicans may wish to consider aborting to protect the health of the party.
They have been going after Planned Parenthood over the past few months like so many Captain Ahabs. They threatened to shut down the government to defund the group. Their insistence on a Planned Parenthood showdown drove House Speaker John Boehner to resign. They’re about to appoint a special committee to investigate Planned Parenthood. The party’s presidential candidates have made Planned Parenthood a central part of the campaign, and House Republicans are manufacturing new legislative vehicles to cut off the group.
And what do they have to show for it?
A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds that Americans have a more favorable view of Planned Parenthood than of any other entity tested, including the Republican Party and presidential candidates. The group’s favorable/unfavorable impression, 47 percent to 31 percent, is actually up slightly from July. What’s more, 61 percent oppose eliminating federal funding of Planned Parenthood. Even among the 35 percent who support defunding, only 9 percent favor shutting down the government to do it.
Posted By: Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Tuesday, September 29th 2015 at 8:02PM
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Watch Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, he was in a hurry to get busted for LYING about the source of his facts but to find out he got he fact from American Untied for Life and not from Plan Parenthood owns books. This is another investigation that went nowhere, that fail on it face. The republican party wants to shut down the country over this mess. WOW!
Tuesday, September 29th 2015 at 9:42PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Many American taxpayers don't want to be forced to pay for killing babies. But you seem to be okay with that. Why?
Tuesday, September 29th 2015 at 11:06PM
Steve Williams
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When Men get pregnant....
Tuesday, September 29th 2015 at 11:11PM
Cheer Leader
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Steve, why LIE about it? Jason got caught / busted LYING on national TV Steven, why?
Wednesday, September 30th 2015 at 7:54AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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deacon 'blackHebrewIsraelite' has been a VIDEO BELIEVIST --- spliced/diced/cartoonish at BIA for some time now and YOU do not believe this VIDEO? please, I am not a Planned Parenthood supporter --- they should have more MEN in EQUAL positions of Responsibility for Life after conception but deacon, a video is a video did you see it...............?
Wednesday, September 30th 2015 at 8:12AM
robert powell
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Did you see how Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah got caught LYING about where he got his FACTS and when it was pointed out to Rep. Jason Chaffetz, that the name of American United for Life was on the bottom of that very same slide he LIED about, you could have bought his for a dime. Listen I don't care if you don't support Planned Parenthood Robert or Steve but don't support a LIE as your reason. If you do support that LIE, then you have no support at all to base your claim on.
Wednesday, September 30th 2015 at 8:32PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.
Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM
Steve Williams
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It's all part and parcel.
Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:43AM
Steve Williams
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Then you have drank the cool aid Steven, You can't show any proof that Parenthood did any of that BS, can you? How much time do you need? I want you to bring your proof to the this floor for debate, can you do this ? I will stand-by for your proof Steven and if you can not prove your statement then I want you to be a man and tell Black In America that you cannot find any wrong doing to support your claims, that is the deal, if you are willing to accept it, can you do that Steven?
Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 11:08AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Why do you support genocide Brother Deacon?
Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:13PM
Steve Williams
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By the way Steven, I see that you did not answer any of my questions like: You can't show any proof that Parenthood did any of that BS you said, can you? How much time do you need? I want you to bring your proof to the this floor for debate, can you do this ? What is the matter Steven, you do see these questions. I will answer your question. I support the right for a woman to make that choice? That is a right and a freedom given to all American's. The chairman did not have to LIE about where he got his facts from, as you witness him being busted out on nationwide T.V. For LYING about where he got his FACTS from. STEVEN, why did the chairman LIE about his FACTS? Now most important, why do you believe in this LIE?
Friday, October 2nd 2015 at 9:39AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Hey Steven, Are you going to answer these questions or what?
Friday, October 2nd 2015 at 2:32PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Brother Deacon, I haven't witnessed the chairman. Have you ever taken your wife to a Planned Parenthood to abort a child that might have been yours or might have been another man's, who in any event didn't want to have the baby because she was addicted to cocaine?
Friday, October 2nd 2015 at 4:31PM
Steve Williams
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Brother Steven, You are running from those questions like a man set free from jail. This blog is all about this LIE https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/th... but you really want to change the subject. You have stated that the tax payer is paying for abortions by founding Plan Parenthood, I say this is a LIE, proof me wrong and show me that the tax payer is founding abortions through Plan Parenthood, can you do that?
Friday, October 2nd 2015 at 6:16PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You want my opinion on the opinion piece?
Friday, October 2nd 2015 at 7:23PM
Steve Williams
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Show my your proof that the tax payer is paying for abortions through Plan Parenthood? Also can you show me your proof of your statement of The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood: YOUR WORDS "Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support." Thursday, October 1st 2015
Friday, October 2nd 2015 at 8:20PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I have have all the proof I need. Planned Parenthood should not receive Federal subsidies.
Saturday, October 3rd 2015 at 6:51AM
Steve Williams
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You do! Then where is it? That is all I have asking them you to do for a few days now! Where is it Steven.
Saturday, October 3rd 2015 at 7:29AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Planned Parenthood's accounting department.
Saturday, October 3rd 2015 at 8:13AM
Steve Williams
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Are you talking about that slide that chairman Chaffetz used as he sited, which he said came from plan parenthood's Account department? Is that what you are using as reference?
Saturday, October 3rd 2015 at 4:51PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I haven't witnessed Chaffetz. I'm talking about Planned Parenthood's records. Have you seen them?
Saturday, October 3rd 2015 at 7:59PM
Steve Williams
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This blog is about how the chairman got busted by the director of Plan Perenthood. Steven, I see if you click on the link that I provided for you, you would see that the chairman investigating Plan perenthood has found nothing in his report. Now if you found some evidence that Plan Parenthood was doing wrong as this so-called video claims, then show it and then we can take that evidence to the chairman doing the investigation, OK! Iam standing by for your evidence Steven.
Saturday, October 3rd 2015 at 8:33PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Is this what you're talking about? Chaffetz flashed a chart on the screens showing that since 2010, the number of abortions at Planned Parenthood has surpassed the number of its “cancer screenings and prevention services.”
Saturday, October 3rd 2015 at 8:45PM
Steve Williams
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Steven, review the comments and answer my questions and you will know exactly what This blog is about.
Saturday, October 3rd 2015 at 11:38PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I already did that. All I can see this blog is about is more Democrat propaganda.
Sunday, October 4th 2015 at 7:54AM
Steve Williams
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Then you saw how the chairman got busted for LYING on nation wide T.V.! Can't no body make this up on the depth the Republican Party will go, using taxpayer monie to LIE, Cheat and Still from the American people and people like youself will let them do it by justifying calling it propaganda. Didn't nobody put that look on that chairman's face but him when he himself realized that he was busted for LYING! Steven, why are you trying to protect this kind of BS? Oh! Before I go, I am still waiting to see your evidence of the wrong doings at Plan Parenthood. Show me your FACTS on your next reply, OK?
Sunday, October 4th 2015 at 10:30AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Have you looked at anything but these sound bites?
Sunday, October 4th 2015 at 6:59PM
Steve Williams
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YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support. Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM MY REPLY: Then you have drank the cool aid Steven, You can't show any proof that Parenthood did any of that BS, can you? How much time do you need? I want you to bring your proof to the this floor for debate, can you do this? I will stand-by for your proof Steven and if you cannot prove your statement then I want you to be a man and tell Black In America that you cannot find any wrong doing to support your claims, that is the deal, if you are willing to accept it, can you do that Steven? Just look at you from Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 11:08AM from one who proclaim to have some so-called Proof on the wrong doing of Plan Parenthood, to Here it is Sunday October 4 2015 and you have not stood by your statement YET! Here’s your latest comment, you have tried your best to run from your pathetic words. Have you looked at anything but these sound bites? Steven, I have asked you on numerous occasions to show us your proof, even after you said that you have all the proof you need that proves wrong doings at Plan Parenthood. Now you can show us nothing, naught, zero, zippo but yet you say that you have all of the proof you need. Steven you are bearing witness to operation Republican Party propaganda machine and you want to be the poster boy for it, by believing it’s LIE’s, when you cannot find any facts to back-up anything they spewed out for you to base your belief’s on. I have given you a few days to explain why you believe in this statement: “YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM You have ran away from your claim for all to see, who you are!!! It is now time for you to fess-up and tell Black in America that you have found no proof for believing whatsoever, what you said on Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM. Just one more time for the record: “YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” WOW! Steven… Steven, I am calling on you to be that man and break free from that LIE which binds you.
Sunday, October 4th 2015 at 8:12PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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While longstanding federal policy has restricted the use of taxpayer funds for most abortions, most Americans would be surprised to learn that no federal law permanently applies this “policy” to all federal funds. Instead, this policy is implemented through a patchwork of annual appropriations “riders,” as well as regulations and executive orders. For example, Congress has annually renewed the Hyde Amendment for nearly four decades. The Hyde Amendment prohibits the use of funds appropriated through the Labor, Health and Human Services (LHHS) appropriations bill to pay for most abortions or abortion coverage. The Hyde Amendment, however, like other appropriations riders that restrict abortion funding, applies only to a specific funding stream, not to all federal funding. This policy patchwork is riddled with loopholes, and requires reenacting these provisions annually. The reoccurring debates over these riders waste lawmakers’ time and expose widely supported restrictions to attacks. The “No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act” is significant because it would eliminate the need for Congress every year to pass the Hyde Amendment and similar appropriations riders. In addition to making existing riders permanent in law, it would apply across the entire federal government. For example, the bill would close abortion-funding loopholes created by the “Affordable Care Act” (ACA) that have opened the door to direct taxpayer funding for abortion. http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/hea...
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 8:32AM
Steve Williams
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Sadly, and at last, a new report by the federal Government Accountability Office (GAO) has revealed that the Obama administration has utterly failed to keep its promises to prevent taxpayer funds from being used to pay for abortions in insurance plans offered through exchanges established under the Affordable Care Act (ACA). And the administration accepts no responsibility for this failure. Given the ACA’s extensive list of shortcomings and controversies, the GAO report may elicit little more than a yawn from the media. Yet, the report is stunning in that it documents how the Obama administration has abandoned and even undermined the very promises that enabled the health-care legislation to pass the U.S. House of Representatives. When objections to taxpayer funding for abortion or abortion coverage nearly brought down the bill, it took an eleventh hour “compromise” — statutory language provided by Senator Ben Nelson (D., Neb.) and a promised executive order — to save the ACA. Now, over four years later, the GAO report confirms that the abortion deal was effectively meaningless. We hate to say we told you so, but here goes: We told you so. At the heart of Senator Nelson’s language is an accounting mechanism intended to ensure that federal funds are not used to directly pay for abortions. Issuers of insurance plans that cover abortions in state exchanges are supposed to collect from enrollees a “separate payment” for abortion coverage (i.e., the abortion premium) and a “separate payment” for everything else. Federal funds should only be comingled with the second pot of money. The language in the law is unambiguous — “separate payments” are required. Yet, insurance issuers are not collecting separate payments. In fact, the Obama administration is telling issuers that they do not need to collect two checks. When issuers seek guidance from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), they are told that they can merely itemize the amount of a premium that will be used to pay for abortions. However, insurance issuers are not doing even this — the GAO found that insurance issuers are not itemizing the abortion premiums nor sending a separate bill for the premiums. Further, under the ACA the abortion premium is supposed to be “segregated” from any federal subsidies, with issuers filing “segregation plans” with their state health-insurance commissioner explaining how they will maintain the integrity of taxpayer funding. Astonishingly, while the “segregation plans” were not the focus of their report, GAO uncovered evidence that at least one state department of insurance was unaware that issuers needed to file their plans for segregating the abortion premium from taxpayer funds with the state. At least two issuers indicated that they had not filed segregation plans, and at least one was not aware of any direction by the state to file such a plan. CMS told GAO that neither the ACA nor CMS regulations “require” an issuer to file a segregation plan. Yet, President Obama waxed eloquent in his executive order about how this accountability would ensure that taxpayer funds are not used for abortion. The GAO notes that if insurance issuers do not file such plans, “It is unclear how state departments of insurance are to ensure that issuers are complying with [the ACA’s] segregation requirements.” Exactly. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/38815...
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 8:51AM
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States that do not require these “segregation plans” cannot know if and how much taxpayer funding is being used to pay for abortions. Insurance issuers who are not collecting separate payments or even itemizing abortion premiums are not likely to be keeping abortions premiums separate from federal funds. So, abortions are being paid for out of federally subsidized premiums. That is taxpayer funding for abortion, people. What was that promise that President Obama made back in 2009, again? Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/38815...
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 9:13AM
Steve Williams
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Where in all of this, that you posted, any evidence of this: I have given you a few days to explain why you believe in this statement: “YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM The key word that is missing in all you posted was Plan Parenthood. Please Steven, this is no evidence you can take to the Chairman, investigating Plan Parenthood. You would be laughed right out the front door. I am still waiting on you to man up.
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 9:22AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The all affordable care act is not Plan Parenthood so stop your attempts to baffle us with BS because your brilliance is in question by your own words.
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 9:32AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Where have you posted anything that proves how Planned Parenthood uses Federal funds?
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 10:09AM
Steve Williams
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Can you do that Ronald?
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 10:11AM
Steve Williams
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Sorry Steven, you got to be losing your damn mind, that was not my argument at all. look at you, you can't find any wrong doing by PlanParenthood like those Lying right wing conservative points wants you to believe but yet you now know that these are LIES and you want to whole on to those LIES anyway. I have given you a few days to explain why you believe in this statement: “YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM and nothing and you will not be man enough to drop that LIE. So, you continue to LIE to the people of Black In America even after you have been busted for telling that LIE. Wow! Why are you here?
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 12:44PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Here is our first exchange. Many American taxpayers don't want to be forced to pay for killing babies. But you seem to be okay with that. Why? Tuesday, September 29th 2015 at 11:06PM Steve Williams | delete Steve, why LIE about it? Jason got caught / busted LYING on national TV Steven, why? Wednesday, September 30th 2015 at 7:54AM Deacon Ron Gray
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 4:03PM
Steve Williams
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I think I hit a nerve.
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 4:22PM
Steve Williams
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When you run and hold on to that bold face LIE, with no FACTS to back up what you have said and you ran away from your own words the way you did then, yes that hit a nerve. When you do that, then your action sends out a clear message of your character which I held you up as a upright individual but to see were you hold yourself is appalling, yes, that did hit a nerve. I look at you from the content of your character and not the color of your skin and that's what burned up many here on Black In America but for you not to stand by your own words, reminded me of other so-called members of the privilege class in this country that have LIED to me to my face. Now when the truth was brought out into the light, was not man enough to admit that you have no FACTS to back up this stamen: “YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM and nothing and you will not be man enough to drop that LIE, that too hit a nerve. The only way that struck a nerve because I thought highly of you. Why are you here Steven? Why are you here Steven?
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 8:44PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Massachusetts: Investigation Reveals Planned Parenthood Is "Fully Compliant With State And Federal Laws." Indiana: Planned Parenthood Cleared Of Any Wrongdoing In The Handling Of Fetal Tissue. South Dakota: No "Evidence Of Illegal Activity" In South Dakota At Planned Parenthood Clinic. Georgia: Department Of Public Health Finds Planned Parenthood "Complied With The Law." Pennsylvania: "No Evidence" Of Wrongdoing By "Any Planned Parenthood" In Pennsylvania. Missouri: "No Evidence That Planned Parenthood's St. Louis Clinic ... Engaged In Unlawful Activity."
Monday, October 5th 2015 at 10:44PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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"Cleared of any wrongdoing in the handling of fetal tissue." Congratulations.
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 2:45AM
Steve Williams
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What about this Steven? Are you saying "Congratulations" that you was proved wrong about this statement? “YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM Are you letting go of this LIE?
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 7:46AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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If it makes you feel better to think of babies as 'fetal tissue' I can't help you.
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 8:07AM
Steve Williams
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Just referring to what you have been saying for a few days now. Do you really need a reminder: “YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.”
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 11:33AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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This investigation committee is a shame to the American People and a waste of taxpayer money by the right wing of the Republican Party.
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 2:53PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Dug out with forceps at 16-20 weeks. They try to take as few passes with the forceps as possible, get the most intact parts.
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 5:05PM
Steve Williams
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It sounds like a real art.
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 5:12PM
Steve Williams
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is an anti-abortion organization founded by David Daleiden in 2013. Daleiden set up a fake biomedical research company, called Biomax Procurement Services, as a cover to enable activists to pose as buyers of fetal tissues and organs and secretly record Planned Parenthood officials during meetings. You remember them in the news, don't you?
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 7:05PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Sure. What about the results of their investigation?
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 7:16PM
Steve Williams
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is an anti-abortion organization founded by David Daleiden in 2013. Daleiden set up a fake biomedical research company, called Biomax Procurement Services, as a cover to enable activists to pose as buyers of fetal tissues and organs and secretly record Planned Parenthood officials during meetings. You do remember that feasco about the FAKE video's, which was a laughing stock for a few months, well this is more of the same. Live with the FACTS and deal with the truth Steven.
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 7:19PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Did I ever tell you I worked in an operating room? I carried body parts to the lab. One of them was an aborted baby in a jar of formaldehyde, right in that range of 20 weeks. It wasn't shredded up into parts like the ones at Planned Parenthood.
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 7:25PM
Steve Williams
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OK... Did you work for Plan Parenthood?
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 7:49PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I worked at Chester County Hospital.
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 8:02PM
Steve Williams
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That is great Steve! Now what do that have to do with The GOP still has nothing to show for its anti-Planned Parenthood campaign? It really looks like you don't neither? Why are you here?
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 8:12PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The GOP represents its voters. These voters are disturbed by Planned Parenthood's mission. What I saw on that video was a butcher shop. Have you seen the video?
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 8:42PM
Steve Williams
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Steven, to the untrained eye, any operation on the human body would remind them of a butcher shop, that is your emotions blinding you. The Facts are: ew Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds that Americans have a more favorable view of Planned Parenthood than of any other entity tested, including the Republican Party and presidential candidates. The group’s favorable/unfavorable impression, 47 percent to 31 percent, is actually up slightly from July. What’s more, 61 percent oppose eliminating federal funding of Planned Parenthood. Even among the 35 percent who support defunding, only 9 percent favor shutting down the government to do it. 61 percent of the American People oppose any elimination of funding of Plan Parenthood, that means The majority rules Steven. What you feel, really don't matter, it is what you can prove that counts.
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 9:29PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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If the GOP represented the voters, then the GOP would disband this investigation into plan parenthood NOW!
Tuesday, October 6th 2015 at 9:34PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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GOP poll finds strong opposition to government shutdown, poll found 71 percent opposed a government shutdown as a way to defund the president's health care law : http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-poll... Even when the rank and files of the GOP at the tune of 71 percent opposed but yet the leadership wants this fight in December.
Wednesday, October 7th 2015 at 6:10AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Is that the right link? It's dated 8/22/13.
Wednesday, October 7th 2015 at 7:46AM
Steve Williams
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Did I miss anything Steven? Is the threat to shut down the country over Plan Peranthood by the leadership of the Republican Party over?
Wednesday, October 7th 2015 at 12:56PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I don't know. Is it?
Wednesday, October 7th 2015 at 5:46PM
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Let us see what happens in December but if I was a betting man, I would put my money NO!
Wednesday, October 7th 2015 at 6:04PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Then there's nothing to worry about, at least for December.
Wednesday, October 7th 2015 at 6:15PM
Steve Williams
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Then you will see befor then, that the The Republican Party is not for you or the middle classes of Americans.
Wednesday, October 7th 2015 at 7:38PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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House Republicans are poised to create a special committee to investigate a wide range of practices related to abortions and fetal tissue procurement in the latest and perhaps most lasting consequence of an activist campaign targeting Planned Parenthood. A bill to be considered on the House floor Wednesday would create a new 13-member select Energy and Commerce subcommittee. Three House panels have already investigated Planned Parenthood since July, when anti-abortion activists first released undercover videos depicting some of the group’s executives discussing its handling of fetal tissue for research. But the new committee of eight Republicans and five Democrats would have a broad charge to investigate abortion practices and new resources to do so, including the power to subpoena documents and testimony. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/spe...
Wednesday, October 7th 2015 at 7:50PM
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This is just another which hunt by the Republican Party.
Wednesday, October 7th 2015 at 8:12PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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It's got the Libs buzzing.
Wednesday, October 7th 2015 at 8:47PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, After all the proof that I have shown you that The GOP still has nothing to show for its anti-Planned Parenthood campaign do you still believe this: “YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.”
Wednesday, October 7th 2015 at 11:22PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I've been anti-Planned Parenthood for 15 years now. I've seen nothing to change my opinion.
Thursday, October 8th 2015 at 1:35AM
Steve Williams
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Since you have no evidence of taxpayers money going towards abortions and there are laws on the books to that effect, then what do you base your believe that Plan Parenthood still performs abortions with tax payer monies? Plan Parenthood selling dead babies to mad scientists. What do you base this "MAD Scientists" Theories on? How do taxpayer monies come into play in that transaction? Since you have seen nothing to change your opinion in 15 years. Steven, have you ever heard of the "Hyde Amendment?"
Thursday, October 8th 2015 at 9:20AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The Hyde Amendment isn't a permanent law. It's attached to appropriations bills each year. Now, show me where the use of these taxpayer subsidies by Planned Parenthood is audited.
Thursday, October 8th 2015 at 10:42AM
Steve Williams
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Although the exact language of the Hyde Amendment has changed over the years, the 2014 appropriations bill for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education contained the following limitations on federal spending for abortion that is typical of Hyde Amendment language generally: This the LAW as it stands NOW! Do you have any evidence that Plan Parenthood BROKE THE LAW?
Thursday, October 8th 2015 at 11:08AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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No. I would like to see evidence that they didn't break the law. The new shouse elect committe will have the power to subpoena. It's about time.
Thursday, October 8th 2015 at 3:31PM
Steve Williams
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I see that you don't want to deal with your own words STEVEN: “YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM Since you have no evidence of taxpayers money going towards abortions and there are laws on the books to that effect, then what do you base your believe that Plan Parenthood still performs abortions with tax payer monies? Plan Parenthood selling dead babies to mad scientists. What do you base this "MAD Scientists" Theories on? How do taxpayer monies come into play in that transaction? Since you have seen nothing to change your opinion in 15 years. How many times must you see this evidence Steven. Indiana: Planned Parenthood Cleared Of Any Wrongdoing In The Handling Of Fetal Tissue. South Dakota: No "Evidence Of Illegal Activity" In South Dakota At Planned Parenthood Clinic. Georgia: Department Of Public Health Finds Planned Parenthood "Complied With The Law." Pennsylvania: "No Evidence" Of Wrongdoing By "Any Planned Parenthood" In Pennsylvania. Missouri: "No Evidence That Planned Parenthood's St. Louis Clinic ... Engaged In Unlawful Activity." These are heavy Republican States which showed you evidence that they, "Plan Parenthood" did not break the LAW which included looking at their books. WOW! What about this I can't make this stuff up.
Thursday, October 8th 2015 at 4:14PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Now, I can't find Steven for comment, what a shame.
Thursday, October 8th 2015 at 9:04PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You left all the research to me. If you want to help, point me to the Planned Parenthood audits.
Thursday, October 8th 2015 at 9:51PM
Steve Williams
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Pennsylvania joins Georgia, Indiana, Massachusetts and South Dakota as stated that have conducted reviews and found no fetal tissue sales or violations of the law.
Thursday, October 8th 2015 at 9:56PM
Steve Williams
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We were talking about the Hyde Amendment correct?
Thursday, October 8th 2015 at 9:59PM
Steve Williams
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Let us start talking about this: STEVEN: “YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM Since you have no evidence of taxpayers money going towards abortions and there are laws on the books to that effect, then what do you base your believe that Plan Parenthood still performs abortions with tax payer monies? Plan Parenthood selling dead babies to mad scientists. What do you base this "MAD Scientists" Theories on? How do taxpayer monies come into play in that transaction? Since you have seen nothing to change your opinion in 15 years. How many times must you see this evidence Steven?
Thursday, October 8th 2015 at 11:02PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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States that do not require these “segregation plans” cannot know if and how much taxpayer funding is being used to pay for abortions. Insurance issuers who are not collecting separate payments or even itemizing abortion premiums are not likely to be keeping abortions premiums separate from federal funds. So, abortions are being paid for out of federally subsidized premiums. That is taxpayer funding for abortion, people. What was that promise that President Obama made back in 2009, again? Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/38815... Monday, October 5th 2015 at 9:13AM Steve Williams | delete
Friday, October 9th 2015 at 8:02AM
Steve Williams
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Steven, let us stay on topic, I am talking about YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM What you are showing me with your response are laws of states to prevent any taxpayer monies going towards abortions, this is two different topics Steven. You still have no evidence of Plan Parenthood breaking any laws here or Plan Parenthood selling dead babies to mad scientists. You still have not provided any evidence to support your "MAD Scientists" Theories on? How do taxpayer monies come into play in that transaction? Since you have seen nothing to change your opinion in 15 years. You are a believer of something that his no FACTS under the Plan Parenthood program. This subject is about Plan Parenthood Steven and not what a new report by the federal Government Accountability Office (GAO) has revealed abortions in insurance plans offered through exchanges established under the Affordable Care Act (ACA). You are a soldier on the battlefield against women's right to choose without any ammo in your weapon. This subject is about your words and believes about Plan Parenthood and not about the Affordable Care Act (ACA). STAY FOCUS STEVEN.
Friday, October 9th 2015 at 9:35AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Yes, let's stay focused. "You are a soldier on the battlefield against women's right to choose" I am pro choice Ron.
Friday, October 9th 2015 at 9:42AM
Steve Williams
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Steven, If this is true then why would you say thing like this: YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM
Friday, October 9th 2015 at 2:41PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The GOP still has nothing to show for its anti-Planned Parenthood campaign,
Friday, October 9th 2015 at 4:32PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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What does Planned Parenthood have to do with being pro-choice or not?
Saturday, October 10th 2015 at 1:44AM
Steve Williams
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Steven, just look at you running away from your words again. if you are pro choice why would you say things like: YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Thursday, October 1st 2015 at 9:42AM To be "pro-choice" is to believe that individuals have unlimited autonomy with respect to their own reproductive systems as long as they do not breach the autonomy of others. A comprehensive pro-choice position affirms that all of the following must remain legal:•Celibacy and abstinence ; •Contraception use ; •Emergency contraception use ; •Abortion, for the first two trimesters of pregnancy ; and •Childbirth. All of which Planned Parenthood provides. Now on Friday, October 9th 2015 at 9:42AM you said that you was Pro Choice Ron YOUR WORDS: I am pro choice Ron. Ether you are for Plan Parenthood or not.
Saturday, October 10th 2015 at 8:51AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The GOP still has nothing to show for its anti-Planned Parenthood campaign to this day.
Thursday, October 15th 2015 at 8:41AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Just because I'm pro-choice doesn't mean I think Planned Parenthood should be federally subsidized. The two don't go hand in hand.
Friday, October 16th 2015 at 1:12AM
Steve Williams
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Plan Parenthood has more services for the poor for both men and women and not just for abortion. If you was pro Steven, why run away from your words again and again. Answer the question Steven. if you are pro choice why would you say things like: YOUR WORDS STEVEN: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Bring forth your proof to why you believe that, you have not done that yet, why?
Friday, October 16th 2015 at 2:29AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I didn't lie about anything Ron. The doctors buying baby parts and doing fetal tissue research are mad scientists, Like Dr. Frankenstein, playing God. The staff of Planned Parenthood who scrape out the baby parts are butchers. There is no transparency to the use of taxpayer dollars by Planned Parenthood and in the absence proof that they aren't used for abortions they should be withheld. And women have the right to choose to kill their unborn babies. I stand by everything I said.
Friday, October 16th 2015 at 8:04AM
Steve Williams
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What I don't understand is how a Christian can support killing babies.
Friday, October 16th 2015 at 8:09AM
Steve Williams
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Steven, I asked you a few days ago about YOUR WORKS: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Bring forth your proof to why you believe that, you have not done that yet, why? Steven, this is not proof!!! this is more of right wing talking points . Bring forth your proof and stand by that. OK!!!
Monday, October 19th 2015 at 10:52PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Define "right wing".
Tuesday, October 20th 2015 at 6:51AM
Steve Williams
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And Ron, why are you such a blue team cheerleader?
Tuesday, October 20th 2015 at 6:54AM
Steve Williams
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Stop running away from your own words Steven, YOUR WORDS: The lie is that taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood don't fnd abortions. Of course they fund abortions. Planned Parenthood performs abortions, sells the dead babies to mad scientists, and receives taxpayer dollars in support.” Bring forth your proof to why you believe that, you have not done that yet, why? Bring forth your proof and stand by that. OK!!!
Tuesday, October 20th 2015 at 11:06AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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