WAS JESUS BLACK? (1ST CENTURY IMAGES OF CHRIST/YESHUA) (6759 hits)
Wrapping up 2014 with a bang. Shots fired at the biggest coons on YouTube
I had to make this vid to tie up a lot of loose ends, clear up a lot of confusion, and to make all the so-called conscious ppl who are still online bashing Christianity all day feel stupid. MESSAGE TO ALL U AFROCENTRIC LOSERS, THE FIRST NATIONS TO CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY WERE THE AFRICAN COUNTRIES OF ETHIOPIA AND EGYPT. NO WHITE MAN PUT A GUN TO THEIR HEAD TO FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF A BLACK PROPHET WHOSE BLOODLINE GOES BACK TO ETHIOPIA AND EGYPT. THAT IS WHY THIS IMAGE OF A BLACK CHRIST IS FOUND IN EGYPT TO THIS DAY. AND FOR THE RECORD, EGYPT IS LIVING IN THE 21st CENTURY AND NOT WORSHIPPING ANCIENT AND DEAD, INCESTUOUS OSIRIS AND ISIS. THEY WERE BROTHER AND SISTER AND WERE MARRIED. ALL IF THE ANTI BIBLE ANTI CHRISTIAN SENTIMENT RUNNING RAMPANT ONLINE IS ALL A PSY OP! AKA PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS IN A PSYCHOLOGICAL WAR! STFU AND STOP COMMENTING ON MY VIDEOS U LOSER TROLLS.
Jesus was not a Black American. Black Americans are a NEW race of people born out of the ashes of plantation slavery!
Whether Jesus was White and Jewish or Black and Nigerian Jesus was not a Black American whose ancestors were plantation slaves. We are descendants of plantation slaves and Jesus is not one of us and we are not Jesus' people!
Thursday, March 30th 2017 at 3:30PM
Harry Watley
I never told or said that Jesus was a Black American, but I know HARRY, that you know that the Black American is the direct bloodline, the descendants of the original Hebrews of THE Bible.
I do know, that you know, that the Black American are the people of the prophecy written and fulfilled in The Book of Deuteronomy 28 in The Holy Bible (KJV)
I know, that you know that only 30% of Black Americans have any trace of European bloodline running through our veins, which means that 3 out of 10 of Black Americans have that connection, which hardly means that the Black American is some new race of people.
Finally I know that you can count past twenty. The paintings of a Black Madonna and the statues was found in Russia, France and England, which are European countries in the cathedrals and churches in the first century after the death of Jesus Christ. Let me ask you this question HARRY, which century comes first, the 1st century or the 20th century?
Mr. Ron, you said that Jesus was not a Black American! What is your point stupid man?
You are an incredibly stupid man! If you never said that Jesus was a Black American then what is the point of the argument? The man that God anoints for Black Americans must be a Black American. Since Jesus is not a Black American then what is your point?
My point is that Jesus was a White Jewish man. My next point is that God anointed Jesus for the White Jewish people since the prophet and his people must racially match. My other point is that the Jewish White people in the state of Israel today are the biblical descendents of Jesus.
Because of me you are smarter than Mr. Ben Israel and his followers because you know things that they don’t know yet!
NO HARRY, what I told you was: "I never told or said that Jesus was a Black American, but I know HARRY, that you know that the Black American is the direct bloodline, the descendants of the original Hebrews of THE Bible," That is a difference.
My point is, That I know, you know that you are spreading that heathens LIES and you don't care that I know it.
You never did answer the question: I know that you can count past twenty. The paintings of a Black Madonna and the statues was found in Russia, France and England, which are European countries in the cathedrals and churches in the first century after the death of Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ was BLACK. Let me ask you this question HARRY, which century comes first, the 1st century or the 20th century?
Maybe, I am taking to much for granted, assuming that you can count pass 20. WOW!!!
Maybe you can help me out here: How can Jesus Christ be BLACK from the 1st through 14th century and then turn white after Michael Angelo painted his version of Jesus Christ?
How can a Black Man Die and be dead for 1400 years, end up white in your mind?
Brother Ben Israel is not the subject here in this blog HARRY, The Black Jesus Christ is, remember that and stay on topic. YOUR heathen diversionary tactics, will not here but wisdom, understanding, love and insight will.
I've posted a blog on this subject, please post your responds on my blog if wish for your questions to be answered.
Friday, March 31st 2017 at 11:42AM
Harry Watley
Wow!!! Is this your way of using these evil tactics of confusing the issue? I asked a few questions on this blog, where is the material and my evidence of a BLACK JESUS is, now you want be to slick change the venue, THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.
Friday, March 31st 2017 at 12:11PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
I've just posted a blog proving that Black Americans can't be the direct blood-line of the biblical Biblical Heberew when Black Americans did not exist yet. Please respond to my blog if you have any concerns!
Friday, March 31st 2017 at 12:30PM
Harry Watley
I see that you want to jump around from subject to subject to avoid answering these questions First of all this subject is about WAS JESUS BLACK? (1ST CENTURY IMAGES OF CHRIST/YESHUA)
Now you want to run like hell from me again. Did you see this video material, if so, you have seen proof that Jesus Crist was not white at all.
I know that you can count past twenty. The paintings of a Black Madonna and the statues was found in Russia, France and England, which are European countries in the cathedrals and churches in the first century after the death of Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ was BLACK. Let me ask you this question HARRY, which century comes first, the 1st century or the 20th century?
These images of Jesus Christ are from the 1st century was BLACK. Here is my proof HARRY which you cannot refute and have not refuted yet.
STUPID! The point is that Jesus was not a Black American as we are. So, Jesus is irreverlent to Black Americans.
Why are you picking up for Jesus when Jesus is not one of us?
Friday, March 31st 2017 at 6:29PM
Harry Watley
Sorry HARRY, this subject is about "WAS JESUS BLACK?"
Now that I have proofed that JESUS WAS BLACK, Now we already know that Jesus, son of GOD was a Hebrew Israelite, the same people spoken about in The First Five Books of the Old Testament as well as the NEW.
Now we are ready to talk about the Children of The Hebrew Israelite, GODS people. At this juncture, we will show that the people taken in the "Atlantic Slave Trade" or "Middle Passage," to the New World, were and still are the decendants of that ancient Hebrew Israelite nation and people. Thus revealing the hidden or missing link in the historical past of the people now known as Negroes, located in parts of Africa, Asia, Europe, Australia, the Caribbean, Central, North and South America, as well as, many other remote places throughout the earth.
In Deuteronomy 28:68 it states that, "and the Lord shall bring thee back into Egypt in ships by the way whereof I said unto thee: Thou shalt see it no more again and there ye shall sell yourselves unto your enemies for bondsmen and for bondswomen, and no man shall buy you." In simplest terms this metaphor is saying, that Israel would go into slavery; similar to the cruety of Egypt. The statement that no man shall buy you, simple means no one would free us that only the God of Israel would ultimately grant us freedom.
(In ancient times, an Israelite could sell himself to his brother as a hired servant and be paid for his labour. However, in this case he would not receive wages for his labour)
Israel attempted to avoid their inevitable fate, worldwide dispersion, by fleeing into West Africa. However, we were taken into the western hemisphere via the Atlantic Slave trade. No longer were we to be identified as a nation of Israelites, but instead as a nonentity called Negroes.
We are those people, the Hebrew people called the Negroes, later know as The Black American Today.
Friday, March 31st 2017 at 8:17PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
HARRY, we are the children, the people written as prophecy in The Book of Deuteronomy 28 in The Holy Bible (KJV) that the oppressors don't want to be known.
What is ....more deaconMess..."EGYPT ..... WORSHIPPING... DEAD, INCESTUOUS OSIRIS AND ISIS....BROTHER AND SISTER AND WERE MARRIED.....A PSY OP! AKA PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS .....?
You simply don’t understand. You are trying to make good on your concept and belief that Black Americans descendent of plantation slaves are written in the book of Deuteronomy specifically chapter 28.
However, my claim is that you all wrong since there is no evidence of Black Americans written in the book of Deuteronomy in the White man’s Christian Bible. I have no business to read Deuteronomy since there is no evidence of Black Americans in the book of Deuteronomy. You have imagined that Black Americans are written in the book of Deuteronomy, but we are not.
So, if I just up and read Deuteronomy I am unwittingly given credit to the book of Deuteronomy and Deuteronomy has nothing to do with my Black American race.
You have been struggling since you met me to pass on your damn lies that Black Americans descendents of plantation slaves are written in the White man’s Christian Bible!
HARRY, who are you trying to fool, I know that you have read Deuteronomy 28 and you understand that this scripture is God’s Words who made a covenant with God’s people, the Hebrew Israelites and their children and their children’s children until Jesus return.
Let us take a look at what you just said in your own words HARRY: However, my claim is that you all wrong since there is no evidence of Black Americans written in the book of Deuteronomy in the White man’s Christian Bible.
I will take scripture of The Book of Deuteronomy 28 that you refute to read.
30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.
What people did this happen to HARRY? Did the Plantation THUG come into the Black American house and take the wife, our ancestors, our Grandmothers and rape her? I know what your answer will be because it is you who promotes that breeding process theory. HARRY is this not fore fulling prophecy written in The Holy Bible (KJV) that covenant that God made with the Original Hebrew people? If not, did this happen to the white Jewish man?
Let go on one more time because I know your attention span is shot.
32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.
HARRY, did this not happen to our ancestors, our Black American people, this too was prophecy written in THE HOLY BIBLE (KJV) which you claim that Black American’s are not in and you will not read.
If you are RIGHT and BLACK Americans are not the children of the original people in The Holy Bible, then why did this prophecy being fore filled upon us, the Black American, if we are not the blood line of the Original Hebrew people written about in The Holy Bible?
Now I know you can answer this question because this is more evidence of GOD’S WORD and his will being played out, even to this very day.
I know that you said this: “I have no business to read Deuteronomy since there is no evidence of Black Americans in the book of Deuteronomy. You have imagined that Black Americans are written in the book of Deuteronomy, but we are not.”
Help me to understand your logic, answer my questions HARRY.
I QUOTE YOU HARRY: I have no business to read Deuteronomy since there is no evidence of Black Americans in the book of Deuteronomy. You have imagined that Black Americans are written in the book of Deuteronomy, but we are not.
So, if I just up and read Deuteronomy I am unwittingly given credit to the book of Deuteronomy and Deuteronomy has nothing to do with my Black American race.
Hey Robert I want you to watch this video presentation and then get back with me, until then your cut and paste lines do not cover the material in this blog. Now get your act together man and don't bring this BULL again, lets talk to the subject.
What is the matter with you Robert, I asked you did you view this video presentation and in your response with this BULL that you spew, is still more of your BULL 💩 and 🤥.
Now watch this documentary and let us talk about the content of this video documentary, can you do that?
YASHUA is the real name of the Messiah. The name "Jesus" is the result of a series of changes from Hebrew to a Latinized Greek thus marks the beginning of the whitewashing of the Son of God.
Salvation is only possible by calling on the true name of Jesus in Hebrew, which is Yahshuah (Yahshuah the son of Yah). "You have to call upon him by his Yah given Hebrew name, as it states in Acts 4:12 no other name can be a substitute, no translation of his name. Only his true name given from Heaven which can be spoken in every language, is your key to salvation. Yahshuah is the name of the Son of The Most High and your key, that Yahshuah was black.
Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
Reference
: Sahih al-Bukhari 3441 In-book reference : Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650
Did you know that if you could go back to the time of the twelve apostles, if you walked up to Peter and said, "Please, take me to see Jesus Christ", Peter would get a puzzled look on his face and say the equivalent of, "Who, or what is that?" Did you know that no one who followed Jesus was capable of accurately pronouncing in English the name "Jesus"? The truth is, if you could go back in time, Peter would probably say something more like, "Come, let me introduce you to Yeshua the Messiah."
When the angel Gabriel came to Mary and told her she was going to have a son and what the child's name was to be, (Luke 1:31) the sound of the name that Mary heard come from Gabriel's lips was very close to, if not exactly... "Yehoshua" pronounced Yeh-ho-shoo'-ah. In modern Hebrew script, "Yehoshua" looks like and is read from right to left. This name is the blending of two Hebrew words. The first part, "Yeh-ho", is part of God's name that is sometimes used at the beginning or end of a Hebrew name. The second part of the Messiah's name, "shua", is the Hebrew word for deliverance meaning, "saves".
The name "Yehoshua" literally means God-saves. The name Yehoshua was then shortened for everyday use the same way a name like Barbara is often shortened to Barb (see the name parable), and the four syllable name Yehoshua was shortened to three syllables, Yeshua.
The name, Yeshua is too Hebrew and that is a FACT.
Did you know that if you could go back to the time of the twelve apostles, if you walked up to Peter and said, "Please, take me to see Jesus Christ", Peter would get a puzzled look on his face and say the equivalent of, "Who, or what is that?" Did you know that no one who followed Jesus was capable of accurately pronouncing in English the name "Jesus"? The truth is, if you could go back in time, Peter would probably say something more like, "Come, let me introduce you to Yeshua the Messiah."
When the angel Gabriel came to Mary and told her she was going to have a son and what the child's name was to be, (Luke 1:31) the sound of the name that Mary heard come from Gabriel's lips was very close to, if not exactly... "Yehoshua" pronounced Yeh-ho-shoo'-ah. In modern Hebrew script, "Yehoshua" looks like and is read from right to left. This name is the blending of two Hebrew words. The first part, "Yeh-ho", is part of God's name that is sometimes used at the beginning or end of a Hebrew name. The second part of the Messiah's name, "shua", is the Hebrew word for deliverance meaning, "saves".
The name "Yehoshua" literally means God-saves. The name Yehoshua was then shortened for everyday use the same way a name like Barbara is often shortened to Barb (see the name parable), and the four syllable name Yehoshua was shortened to three syllables, Yeshua.
SO STOP THAT LIE, RIGHT NOW.
The name "Yehoshua" literally means God-saves in Hebrew. "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua" is the true name of The Son of Mary.
According to : Sahih al-Bukhari 3441 In-book reference : Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650
According Muhammad, "Yahushua" was brown complexion and lank hair and not a white European, THAT LIE YOU CAN STOP PROMOTING AS WELL because Muhammad did not believe Yahushua was red or white but according to .Sahih al-Bukhari 3441 In-book reference: Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650
Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
You don't have to believe me robert believe what Prophet Muhammad said about "Yahushua's" complexion, Prophet Muhammad said that "Yahushua" was brown complexion and lank hair. That means "Yahushua" was never red or a Europeans white.
".....Yeshua is too Hebrew and that is a FACT. …."Yehoshua" literally means God-saves. The name Yehoshua was then shortened for everyday use the same way a name like Barbara is often shortened to Barb....
This is a Drop the Mike Moment. …."
Tuesday, September 18th 2018 at 10:19PM Deacon Ron Gray
Is that all you got, No comment on what According Muhammad, "Yahushua" was brown complexion and lank hair and not a white European, THAT LIE YOU CAN STOP PROMOTING AS WELL because Muhammad did not believe Yahushua was red or white but according to .Sahih al-Bukhari 3441 In-book reference: Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650
Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
You don't have to believe me robert believe what Prophet Muhammad said about "Yahushua's" complexion, Prophet Muhammad said that "Yahushua" was brown complexion and lank hair. That means "Yahushua" was never red or a Europeans white.
The WORDS FROM Muhammad: "Suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.'
robert, is Muhammad saying that the son of Mary was a brown shin man?
What is the matter with you, robert, YOU are failing to acknowledge Prophet Muhammad's TEACHINGS, WHY??? WELL I'LL BE!!!
robert, I' am not talking about the words from any whiteSupremacy' or White Superemus, I am using as reference and QUOTING from The Hadith which is a collection of traditions containing sayings of the prophet Muhammad which, with accounts of his daily practice (the Sunna), constitute the major source of guidance for Muslims apart from The Holy Koran, which you should know so well at this point in your LIFE.
These are Prophet Muhammad's words you now are running like hell from and you call yourself a follower of Islam. WOW!! The FACT that you see Prophet Muhammad's words as RACIST COLORED'whiteSupremacy speaks volumes in your understanding of who's you are. It is just appalling that you don't give a damn about what Prophet Muhammad description of Yeshua is, which is totally different from your description of some White paganEuropean TRASH is as you participate in the promoting of that European attempt HATE and misdirecting that keep's us divided.
robert, adhered to the words of Prophet Muhammad and be at peace with yourself.
Now the question is to you robert, What was the description of the man Muhammad or Mohamed(sawm) referred to in The Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 saw and was told who was "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua" was The Son of Maryam.
What was the description of the man Muhammad or Mohamed(sawm) referred to as "Yeshua?"
What was the description of the man Muhammad or Mohamed(sawm) referred to as "Yeshua?" FuFu, What is the matter with you? Do you have a conflux of interest between what Mohamed(sawm) said he saw, who was the Son of Maryam and this LatinoJesus LIE that you are promoting.
robert, What was the description of the man Muhammad or Mohamed(sawm) referred to in The Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 saw and was told who was "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua" was The Son of Maryam?
These are Prophet Muhammad's words you now are running like hell from and you call yourself a follower of Islam. WOW!!
Sahih al-Bukhari 3441 In-book reference: Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 STATES:
Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus (YESHUA) was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
DO YOU SEE THESE WORDS robert? On your next comments of this blog direct your attention to 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 saw and was told who was "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua" who was The Son of Maryam? What color was Yeshua's complexion?
".....What was the description of the man Muhammad or Mohamed(sawm) referred to as "Yeshua?" FuFu,
What is the matter with you? Do you have a conflux of interest between what Mohamed(sawm) said he saw,
who was the Son of Maryam and this LatinoJesus LIE that you are promoting.
robert, What was the description of the man Muhammad or Mohamed(sawm) referred to in The Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 saw and was told who was "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua" was The Son of Maryam?
I don't hear you!!! ….."
Thursday, September 20th 2018 at 9:23PM Deacon Ron Gray
1. The COLORED'blackHebrewIsraelite' WHO believes in the kingJames latinoJesus
…...wants to tell the Hebaru Yehuda what to believe in ENGLISH of Hebraic Torah? …...wants to tell the englishPaganchristians what to believe of African Asian Monotheism?
2. Now the COLORED'HebrewIsraelite' wants to TELL me what AlIslaam, and Mohamed(sawm) are?
…...No, no and NO NO for 1440+ YEARS...…not the 2 BILLION Muslims and I...WE BELIEVE
robert, What was the description of the man Muhammad or Mohamed(sawm) referred to in The Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 saw and was told who was "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua" was The Son of Maryam?
2. Now the COLORED'HebrewIsraelite' wants to TELL me what AlIslaam, and Mohamed(sawm) are? No robert but what I do want you to do, is tell me what Sahih al-Bukhari 3441 In-book reference: Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 said about the complexion of "Yeshua," The Son of Maryam? can you do that?
or
Are you going to continue to run away from the words of Prophet Muhammad'?
Hey robert with a small "r," 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 is not a African Asian Monotheistic Language, now is it? I am asking you what did this passage mean and I see that you can't help me to understand the meaning.
What is Muhammad saying in this Hadith robert?
Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus (YESHUA) was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
All I want you to do is to explain and DEFINED Sahih al-Bukhari 3441 In-book reference: Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650., can you do that, little man with a small "r" for robert?
(English) reference : 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 is not a African Asian Monotheistic Language, now is it? I am asking you what did this passage mean and I see that you can't help me to understand the meaning.
What is Muhammad saying in this Hadith robert?
Narrated Salim from his father: (English) reference :
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus (YESHUA) was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
All I want you to do is to explain and DEFINED Sahih al-Bukhari 3441 In-book reference: Book 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web
(English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650., can you do that, little man with a small "r" for robert?
Friday, September 21st 2018 at 10:40PM Deacon Ron Gray
So, are you telling me African Asian Monotheistic thought in the case of this Hadith right here in front of you is an ERROR and not accurate in the English language?
Please, answer the question and don't bring all that "SMOKE" with you on your next reply, can you tell me what this hadith means or NOT?
What is Muhammad saying in this Hadith robert?
Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus (YESHUA) was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
Is Muhammad describing, "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam?
Little "r" I am not asking you about the origin of Jesus
Little "r" I am not asking you about the Torah, Adaam/Ibraheem/Musa etal spoke African Asian or Hebrew.....
Little "r" I am not asking you about how Mohamed(sawm) spokeWROTE African Asian Arabic.....no English...
I asked you to Please, answer the question and don't bring all that "SMOKE" with you on your next reply, can you tell me what this hadith means or NOT? And you bring me this.
Little "r" I am not asking you about a grapes, re-complexioned, fat, curlyhaired, adDajjal is NOT in African Asian or Arabic..... and you know that "SMOKEY."
What I am asking you to tell me is this the correct interpretation of the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 correct from Arabic into English?
Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
Is Prophet Muhammad describing, "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam?
The topic is not about any Latin Language Professor, Pope and Latin Scholar, Roman Catholic Psychology Professor,Romanian Catholic Scholar of Latin, Roman Catholic Priest...that likes latinBoys….. or putting any euroRACIST psychology on the judeoIslaamic Monotheistic Belief of Africa Asian!
All of that is the SMOKE and Bull 💩 you bring to Black In American, WOW!!!
I am asking Black In Americana's well known follower of Islamic believer about what Is Prophet Muhammad describing, "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam?
What I am asking you to tell me is this the correct interpretation of the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 correct from Arabic into English?
Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
You though went WAY OFF SUBJECT with trying like most RACIST euroTHINKERS against the
judeoIslaamic Belief of Africa Asia and the ORIGIN of Creator of Adaam(as) words in hebrewArabic…
…..
SO YES …..topic of Colored'black' by RACIST euroTHOUGHT in kingJames ENGLISH IS.....
"...…..The topic is not about any Latin Language Professor, Pope and Latin Scholar, Roman Catholic Psychology Professor,Romanian Catholic Scholar of Latin, Roman Catholic Priest...that likes latinBoys….. or putting any euroRACIST psychology on the judeoIslaamic Monotheistic Belief of Africa Asian
Sunday, September 23rd 2018 at 11:22PM Deacon Ron Gray
I don't believe you about what robert? You have not answered any of my questions, at all.
Was Prophet Muhammad describing, "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam?
What I am asking you to tell me is this the correct interpretation of the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 correct from Arabic into English?
Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
Focus your attention on my last two questions robert, can you to that?
Monday, September 24th 2018 at 10:17AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Are you saying No, NO and NEVER to all your silly, Racist questions above....! Even this one "r?" What I am asking you to tell me is this the correct interpretation of the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 correct from Arabic into English? Are you saying that this Hadith is a FRAUD, Misconception and English antiIslaamic old Propaganda?
Are you saying that this 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 is silly and not of African Asia Monotheistic Belief?
Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
I am asking you about this Hadith that you see right here in this reply, talk to me about is this the correct interpretation of the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 correct from Arabic into English?
Including this Question too robert?: "I am asking you to tell me is this the correct interpretation of the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 correct from Arabic into English?
Please, forgive me but I don't see any RACIST, or a racistlyIGNORANT idea, I know for a FACT the Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 that Prophet Muhammad was not talking about Racist paganChristians or no 2 BILLION Chinese-Pacifica FOLK call self....euroYELLOW….! or nothing like that but yet you can see all that Bull 💩 in what I asked you and you still have not talked about o made any reference to 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 is silly and not of African Asia Monotheistic Belief?
Why are you running away from this collection of traditions containing sayings of the prophet Muhammad which, with accounts of his daily practice (the Sunna), constitute the major source of guidance for Muslims apart from the Koran?
1. you do NOT READ or Understand African Asian Hebrew or Arabic...YET you 'interpret' in ENGLISH?
Robert, I don't have to read or Understand African Asian Hebrew or Arabic, when I am taking a leap of faith by putting trust in your words to speak the truth by asking you a question of this great caliber since you said, you read Arabic, the question is: "I am asking you to tell me is this the correct interpretation of the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 correct from Arabic into English?" To this day, you have not yet answered my question.
2. you have NOT READ my words and cannot UNDERSTAND them ...Interpret them …..
What words? Your words have not been about this question: "I am asking you to tell me is this the correct interpretation of the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 correct from Arabic into English?"
3. the fact that this does not bother your...….psychological "interpretation"...is:
WHY there are the EDUCATED and Intelligent...!
and
Why there are the RACISTLY ignorant UNEDUCATED....
why some get an 'A' and some get an 'F'
I thought that I could TRUST YOU to tell the truth about what Prophet Muhammad the messenger of your religion is saying in this Hadith but now I see I can't put my trust in you because you are in a great denial of the teachings of Prophet Muhammad, WOW!!!!
YOUR WORDS: AGAIN, you produce NO Original Arabic for any Truth seeker to formulate.
Isn't the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 was first written in Arabic, then translated into English?
YOUR WORDS: …..NO, your above comments for the 589th time are INCORRECT and NOT translated or interpretated
Correctly, Intellectually or Factually for the TRUTH...…..
….Do NOT put your euroRACIST psychology on the judeoIslaamic Monotheistic Belief of Africa Asia!
WOW Little " r" robert why do you think that I am putting any euroRACIST psychology on the judeoIslaamic Monotheistic Belief of Africa Asia to my question to you?
Sir, I knew that the the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 was correct
from Arabic into English? …" was not a FRAUD, Misconception and English antiIslaamic old Propaganda? because I quoted that Hadith from Sunnah.com https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/ If you care to click on the link, you will find two columns, one is in Arabic and the other column is in English for your review.
1. Site Objective
The goal of this website is to provide the first online, authentic, searchable, and multilingual (English/Arabic at the individual hadith level) database of collections of hadith from our beloved Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him.
2. About Hadith
Hadith are the transmitted narrations concerning the speech, actions, appearance, and approvals of the Messenger of Allah, the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). Hundreds of thousands of these narrations have been carefully preserved, studied, and passed down through the centuries, with many of them having undergone a strict procedure to verify an authentic chain of transmission up to the Prophet (pbuh). Hadith form the textual core of the Sunnah, an important source for the derivation of Islamic jurisprudence second only to the Qur'an.
4. Important Note
We feel compelled to make an observation here: this is not a fiqh or fatwa website. Hadith are made available on this website as a resource for research, personal study and understanding. The text of one or a few hadith alone are not taken as rulings by themselves; scholars have a sophisticated process using the principles of fiqh to come up with rulings.
So robert, so what you need to do is to register your complaint with your fellow Islamic Brothers and Sisters about your displease with their interpretation of the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 correct from Arabic into English? sunnah.com https://sunnah.com/contact and tell them that their information is INCORRECT and NOT translated or interpreted Correctly, Intellectually or Factually for the TRUTH...…
or
You need to accept the TRUTH about how Prophet Muhammad described The Son of The Son of Maryam ("Yeshua") being of brown complexion and lank hair.
Believing SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/ is where I drop my prove that 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650 is not silly and is of African Asia Monotheistic Belief?
"Thus hadith literature means the literature which consists of the narrations of the life of the Prophet and the things approved by him.
"......I thought that I could TRUST YOU to tell the truth about what Prophet Muhammad the messenger of your religion is saying in this Hadith but now I see I can't put my trust in you because you are in a great denial of the teachings of Prophet Muhammad, WOW!!!!…….. I quoted that Hadith from Sunnah.com...."
Wednesday, September 26th 2018 at 10:48AM Deacon Ron Gray
Focus your attention on The 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650.
YOUR WORDS: No Muslim from sunnah.com or Arab American Museum would agree with deacon of COLORED FOLK....
Click on this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/ In FACT, I am AGREEING with SUNNAH.COM and you will see that Muhammed did note "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam skin complexion was not White or Red but BROWN, you can see that with your very own eyes, unless you are in complete denial of the words from Prophet Muhammed.
Just look at the ways you are denying the words of Prophet Muhammed, just because he claimed in The 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650. That The Son of Maryam skin complexion was not White or Red but BROWN, thus supporting my claim that "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam was not a European or White or Red Skinned Prophet. THAT IS THE LIE THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO PROMOTE ON THE BEHALF OF THAT HEATHEN YOU SERVES.
Now if you want to call your prophet PIETY or RACISTLY IGNORANT euroPEON that is your call.
All I asked you was in the Hadith did Prophet Muhammed said that he saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.'
Is this Muhammed description of "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam"? Which you have not answered to this day and this evidence is right in front of you but you still want to LIE about that, WHY?.
Fu, You have not been to this site yet have you, WHY? Because the truth is right here: SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/
Now when you get there, point out this RACIST, European point of view to me, can you do that? NO YOU CAN"T BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN THESE WORDS of the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650: Now did you see that reference to robert powell?
Did you see the two columns? Did you see one Colum in Arabic and the other side translated into ENGLISH by SUNNAH.COM? Did you see that Fu? Did you see that The Son of The Son of Maryam ("Yeshua") being of brown complexion and lank hair, you did see those words did you?
Are you going to debate these words are from the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650?
Now are you going to still say that this information is still inadequate or insufficient · not enough · deficient · poor · scant · scanty · scarce · sparse · too little · too few · short · in short supply · paltry · meager · n*ggardly · skimpy · sketchy · incomplete · restricted · limited · measly · pathetic · piddling · exiguous.
little "r" man and you say that you are Islamic and a believer of Prophet Mohammed? WOW!!!
What difference does it make whether he was black or white, he never set people free from slavery. The most famous slave in the New Testament epistles is Onesimus, the slave of Philemon. In a short letter, Paul never explicitly request freedom for Onesimus but implores Philemon to receive Onesimus as “a beloved brother” (Phlm 16). Paul’s Other New Testament letters forcefully instruct slaves to obey their masters (Eph 6:5-8, Col 3:22-24, 1Tim 6:1-2, 1Pet 2:18, Titus 2:9-10). Some passages tell masters to treat slaves better—an indication that some Christians treated their slaves poorly (Eph 6:9, Col 4:1).
Thursday, September 27th 2018 at 4:43PM
Lofton Helen
Thank You for those versus Sister Lofton Helen. What difference does it make whether he was black or white, I think it really does make a difference. I know that you know that there are those who don't want you to know who God made his covenant with his people in Deuteronomy 28 and that covenant was fulfilled by the offspring's, The Seed, The Blood-line and guess who's people that was?
That is great "r"obertFu, that you learned Islaamic Scholarship of AhlalSunnah in the ORIGINAL Arabic of Mohamed(sawm) and that is good that you read Learned Islaamic Science of AhlalSunnah in the ORIGINAL Arabic of Mohamed(sawm)
That is the reason why I quoted from SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 because of the Arabic, English interpretation fund on the same page.
Why won't you confirm that the Muslims on the staff at SUNNAH.COM which Millions of young Muslims come to learn about the teachings of Muhammad, got that translation from Arabic into English, RIGHT?
While sleeping near the Ka`ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.'
Your Words "r"obertFu: . that Mohamed(sawm) NEVER said:....'Jesus, son of Mary.'
I know for a FACT that Muhammed was speaking in Arabic and not in English to speak the words ..'Jesus, son of Mary.' . You are looking really foolish now, when you know, that I know you are aware of SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 that has the original language and the English version. You are sounding like you don't see what FACTS of what Muhammed said in the 60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 650:
Now really did you see that reference robert powell? Wait a Minute: ..I, Robert Powell, & Muslims from Atlantic to Makkah to Baghdad to Islaamabad would NEVER read it.
3. Mohamed(sawm) ALSO never heard of.. "60, Hadith 111 USC-MSA web(English) reference: Hadith 650" No, you are right about that and Mohamed(sawm) ALSO never heard of 60, Hadith 111 becauase The Holy Prophets ( pbuh ) companions wrote the ahadith so that they could be used as guidance for the generations to come, these people were known as scribes of divine revelation.
There were many companions who compiled the ahadith, 3 famous compilers of ahadith are:
Bukhari whos book sahi bukhari is considered to be the 2nd best guidance for mankind it gives most ( if not all ) of the sahih hadiths in it.
Why can't confirm what Sahih al-Bukhari said how Prophet Muhammed described "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam"?
Why do you talk about everything and anything you can think of to try to divert my one simple question that I asked you robert powell, WHY?
r" obertFu "SMOKEY" 1. Mohamed(sawm) NEVER saw or approved them in Arabic
NEWS FLASH: "r" obert, What Language did Mohamed(sawm speak?
NEWS FLASH: "r" obert, The Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) was born in the year 570 AD in Mecca and died June 8, 632, Medina), the founder of Islam and the proclaimer of the Qurʾân did not, I repeat, did not authorize The Holy Quran or The Hadith because, The Quran did not exist in book form at the time of Muhammad's death in 632AD.There is agreement among scholars that Muhammad himself did not write down the revelation.
Now I know for a FACT that Mohamed(sawm) NEVER saw or approved the Hadith because the Hadith According to Islamic Scholars claims that the Hadith came into existence 250 to 300 years after the Prophet Muhammed’s demise.
So "r"obertFu "SMOKEY" you can put to rest That Bull 💩 what Mohamed(sawm) never approved of, heard of or saw.
"r"obertFu "SMOKEY" I am talking about what is being taught today to Millions of Muslims as a collection of traditions containing sayings of the prophet Muhammad which, with accounts of his daily practice (the Sunna), constitute the major source of guidance for Muslims apart from the Quran.
"r"obertFu "SMOKEY" I am talking about SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 What did this hadith say about What the Sahih al-Bukhari said how Prophet Muhammed described "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam" as being of what complexion?
Was it a White complexion as shown in pictures shown today or a red complexion or a Brown complexion, which is covered in this Video Documentary. Which one is it robert? The Evidence is right in front you RIGHT NOW, what do it say about how Prophet Muhammed described "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam" as being of what complexion?
The "interpretation"....of deacon COLORED'euroRACIST' psychology has for 1400+ years LIED
BUT
before you; COLORED'blackHebrewIsraelite' write your EUROPEAN "interpretation"
...READ the ORIGINAL before you ENABLE...RACIST European ...IGNORANCE, LIES and MISCONCEPTIONS!
If Arabic is the ORIGINAL, I am not fluent. I thought I was talking to a person who was, that is the reason why I asked you to interpretative this hadith, can't you understand that? You are looking real silly now.
"r"obertFu "SMOKEY" I am talking about what is being taught today to Millions of Muslims as a collection of traditions containing sayings of the prophet Muhammad which, with accounts of his daily practice (the Sunna), constitute the major source of guidance for Muslims apart from the Quran.
"r"obertFu "SMOKEY" I am talking about SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 What did this hadith say about What the Sahih al-Bukhari said how Prophet Muhammed described "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam" as being of what complexion?
1. mean to 2 BILLION MUSLIMS worldwide.....NOTHING
That is a LIE and you know it. You don't speak for no 4437 million or 1.8% of the Muslims here in North America, That is That Bull 💩 and you know it!!!
2. mean to nonBelievers of African Asian Monotheistic judeoIslaamic Belief of Creator of Adaam(as)…///
This is not a complete thought "r"obert Fu "SMOKEY" and you know it to be the truth.
"........1. mean to 2 BILLION MUSLIMS worldwide.....NOTHING
That is a LIE and you know it. You don't speak for no 4437 million or 1.8% of the Muslims here in North America, That is That Bull 💩 and you know it!!!
2. mean to nonBelievers of African Asian Monotheistic judeoIslaamic Belief of Creator of Adaam(as)…///
This is not a complete thought "r"obert Fu "SMOKEY" and you know it to be the truth...
Why are you turning your back on knowledge....."
Tuesday, October 2nd 2018 at 10:51PM Deacon Ron Gray
(The Family of Imran, The Family of Maryam...mother of I'saa) III
Bismillaahir Rahmaan irRaheem
1. AlifLâmMîm.
2. Allâah!
Lâ ilâha illa Huwa - none has the right to be worshipped but Allaah, AlHayyulQayyum
- the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists.
3. It is Creator Who has sent AlQur’âan to Mohamed, Truth, confirming all the Words that came before it.
As Creator had sent down AtTaurât-Torah and AlInjeel.
4. As an Eternal, ever lasting guidance to Mankind.
He sent down the criterion-basis of judgement between right and wrong, AlQur'aan.
Those who disbelieve in the Ayât (proofs, verses, lessons, signs) of Allâah, for them there is a severe torment;
Allâah is All-Mighty, All-Able of Retribution.
5. Truly, nothing is hidden or unknown from Allâah, in the Earth, Time or in the Heaven.
6. He it is Who shapes you in the wombs as He wills.
Lâ ilâha illa Huwa, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
7. It is He Who has sent down to you Mohamed, AlQur’âan.
In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of AlQur'aan,
and those are the Verses of AlAhkâam (the commandments),
AlFara’id (the obligatory duties) and AlHuduud
(the legal laws for the punishment of criminals, thieves, adulterers);
and others clear through inspiration.
So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation from the Truth; seek paganism, falsehood and ignorance, and seeking for its hidden meanings, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allâah.
Those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say:
"We believe in it; the whole of it clear Verses are from Rabaanaah."
None receive gentle counsel, and reproof against fault or oversight;
except men of understanding and great study.
93. All food was lawful to the Children of Israel,
except what Israel made unlawful for himself before AtTaurât (Torah) was revealed.
............Say Mohamed, "Bring here AtTaurât and recite it, if you are truthful."
94. Then who ever invents a lie against Allâah, they are indeed AzZâlimûn (disbelievers).
95. Say Mohamed:
"Allâah has spoken the truth;
follow the religion of Ibrâhîm Hanîfa (Monotheism, he worship Allâah Only, Alone).
He was not of AlMushrikûn"
96. The first House of Worship appointed for Mankind was that at Bakkah (Makkah), full of blessing,
and a guidance for Al‘Âlamîn (mankind and jinn).
97. In it are manifest signs;
AlMaqâm the stantion of Ibrâheem; who ever enters it, attains security.
Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah) to the House (Ka‘bah ) is a duty that Mankind owes to Allâah,
those who can afford the expenses; and who ever disbelieves denies Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah),
then he is a disbeliever of Allâah, and Allâah does not need any of the ‘ÂlÂlamîn (mankind and all existance).
98. "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)!
Why do you reject the Ayât of Allâah (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations,)
while Allâah is Witness to what you do?"
99. Say: "O people of the Scripture; Why do you stop those who have believed, from the Path of Allâah,
seeking to make it seem crooked, while you are witnesses to Mohamed, as a Messenger of Allâah
and AlIslâam, to worship none but Him Alone?
And Allâah is aware of what you do."
100. O you who believe!
If you obey a group of those who were given the Scripture and did not follow Belief,
they would surely take you to disbelief after you have believed!
The Question is, "r"obertFu "SMOKEY" I am talking about SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 What did this hadith say about What the Sahih al-Bukhari said how Prophet Muhammed described "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam" as being of what complexion?
How can one be Lying, when one is asking direct question: "WAS JESUS, BLACK? "? Now I see that this can only happen in the way you think.
...Mohamed(sawm) lived in the 7th Century, and SPOKE no ENGLISH,
I NEVER ASKED YOU ABOUT THE LANGUAGE of Muhammed - Mohamed(sawm) or what time in history Mohamed(sawm lived, now DID I?
We can see in this Hadith: Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza`a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")
We can plainly see that Muhammad - ...Mohamed(sawm) saw, saw Yasoua - "Yeshua" Jesus The Son of Maryam MARY in a dream by this line in this Hadith;" "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream). Muhammad SAW Yasoua - "Yeshua" Jesus some seven hundred plus years after Jesus Christ died on The Cross and arose three days later for the sins of all believers.
So don't bring that That Bull 💩 to me again because that is your way to distract from my question to you .
Learn something, someday of judeoIslaamic African Asian Monotheism of the Creator of Adaam(as)
I thought I was coming to Learn something, someday of judeoIslaamic African Asian Monotheism of the Creator of Adaam(as) from the right people but I see now can clearly was wrong as hell. WOW!!!
Where is the racist RACISM in this Hadith SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 ? point out that RACISM YOU CLAIM IS THERE BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT? YOU CAN'T SHOW ME THAT CAN YOU FU!! LOL!!!
Where is the LIE in The Hadith Book 60, Hadith 110 Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 649 SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 ? YOU CAN'T SHOW ME THAT CAN YOU FU!! LOL!!!
Where is the 'COLOREDwhiteSupremacy' in The Hadith Book 60, Hadith 110 Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 649 SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 ? That you said was there, YOU CAN'T SHOW ME THAT CAN YOU FU!! LOL!!!
Where is the racistlyIgnorant Cartoonic Christians that made (ME) You and Other Racists COLORED in the Hadith Book 60, Hadith 110 Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 649 SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 ? YOU CAN'T SHOW ME THAT CAN YOU FU!!
Mohamed(sawm) did not speak the paganChristian racistPsychosis...slaverEnglish 1776-1864.....
How could any man speak anything, about anything after 700 years after his DEATH? You sound real foolish with this misleading statement NOW? WOW!!! YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION OF MINE CAN YOU FU!?
'blackHebrewIsraelite' BELIEVES in 'COLOREDwhiteSupremacy' ..COLORED him 'black'
NO! FU... here's where I get that information from, in The Hadith No, By Allah, the Prophet (ﷺ) did not tell that Jesus was of red complexion but said,
Muhammad is telling The Beliving Arabs this: "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka`ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head.
RIGHT HERE IS THE PROOF OF WHAT MUHAMMED - Mohamed(sawm) said in the 60, Hadith 111 and if you don't believe me, click on the LINK SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 and you can see this evidence in the HADITH FOR YOUR SELF. Now TELL ME THAT YOU DON'T SEE THOSE WORDS?
It was report in the Hadith that Muhammad I asked this question, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary,' Fu, that is where I get that thought from, straight from and here's my PROOF: SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110
1. latinoJesus is 'COLOREDblack' if YOU thought African Asians were 'COLOREDwhite'
During the time of Mohamed(sawm,) the writtings of AlQur'aan and Hadeeth in THE ORIGINAL ARABIC..... never knew of a latinoJesus but what he did know of was a Hebrew Yasoua - "Yeshua" and that is a FACT which you can not refute to this day. WOW!!!
You see these three sentences from The Hadith Book 60, Hadith 110: I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders.
This line was not from some paganChristian or some whiteMEN' slaverEnglish 1776-1864..... or some fakeJews' or some racistPsychosis...of rape/torture/murder and miseducation of the SLAVE........ or some kingJames Versions of Divisionist euroMISCONCEPTIONS......and LIES..... or some WhiteSupremacy' I get my FACTS right from the Hadith Book 60, Hadith 110:
His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.'
You see that PROOF OF THIS HADITH and you know for a FACT that this HADITH is not talk about some Golden Calf or disrespected/angered Musa(as) in this HADITH, SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110
"......Mohamed(sawm) did not speak the paganChristian racistPsychosis...slaverEnglish 1776-1864.....
How could any man speak anything, about anything after 700 years after his DEATH? You sound real foolish with this misleading statement NOW? WOW!!! YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION OF MINE CAN YOU FU!?
'blackHebrewIsraelite' BELIEVES in 'COLOREDwhiteSupremacy' ..COLORED him 'black'
1. latinoJesus is 'COLOREDblack' if YOU thought African Asians were 'COLOREDwhite'
This line was not from some paganChristian or some whiteMEN' slaverEnglish 1776-1864..... or some fakeJews' or some racistPsychosis...of rape/torture/murder and miseducation of the SLAVE........ or some kingJames Versions of Divisionist euroMISCONCEPTIONS......and LIES..... or some WhiteSupremacy' I get my FACTS right from the Hadith Book 60, Hadith 110:
It is also written in the Original Arabic in this HADITH and you don't want to talk about what we found out about how ALLAH reveal to Mohamed(sawm) about the description of The Hebrew Yasoua - "Yeshua" and by now you know damn well that I am taling about ÚíÓì ‘Isa, WHY DO YOU STILL FROM THE QUESTION?
Please forgive me that was a TYPO on my part. in stead from the word telling, that word should be talking.
It is also written in the Original Arabic in this HADITH and you don't want to talk about what we found out about how ALLAH reveal to Mohamed(sawm) about the description of The Hebrew Yasoua - "Yeshua" and by now you know damn well that I am talking about ÚíÓì ‘Isa, WHY DO YOU STILL FROM THE QUESTION?
You still have not talked about in the HADITH Book 60, Hadith 110: found at this LINK SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 which contains the original Arabic language.
1. Mohamed(sawm) Knew NOTHING of hadeeth in English...…..
Mohamed(sawm) Knew Arabic, now didn't he?
Mohamed(sawm) Knew NOTHING of latinoJesus----or Transliterated English yasoua, yeshua?
Now Mohamed(sawm) did not know about English, that I will grant you that but yasoua, yeshua is not some English term,, it is Hebrew robert and you should you that by now.
3. 2 BILLION 2018 Muslims DO NOT EVER, NEVER read englishInterpretations of ORIGINAL
African Asian Arabic Written 8th CENTURY history of traditions of a man the author NEVER met....
Now you are trying to tell that Bull 💩 that all Muslims all over the world speak Arabic? WOW!!! you are really going far out of the way to redirect this topic with that LIE. WOW!! LOL!!! Let's get back to the question.
I am asking you about what you see in this HADITH found on the website SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 and not some 2 BILLION 2018 Muslims never done. STOP YOUR BULL 💩 and answer the question Sir.
4. I NEVER, EVER have run from any of your Questions.... Just look at your last reply, you ran like hell from my question and still running from it now.
YOU do NOT understand your question or my answers in ENGLISH or ORIGINAL Hebrew-Arabic
Where in this blog did you answer my question of You have not answered any of my question about this HADITH in SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 point that answer out to me in this blog, will you do that?
robert, It is also written in the Original Arabic in this HADITH and you don't want to talk about what we found out about how ALLAH reveal to Mohamed(sawm) about the description of The Hebrew Yasoua - "Yeshua" and by now you know damn well that I am taling about ÚíÓì ‘Isa, WHY DO YOU STILL RUN FROM THE QUESTION?
MY QUESTION: Is this translation accurate from the original Arabic into English in this HADITH Book 60, Hadith 110: found at this LINK SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 which contains the original Arabic language into English is accurate? and not what some 2 BILLION 2018 Muslims never done. STOP YOUR BULL 💩 and answer the question Sir.
Are you saying that the translation of HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 is NOT AN ACCURATE translation from Arabic into English?
Are you saying that the translation of HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 is NOT AN ACCURATE translation from Arabic into English? YES or NO “r”obert.
....there is NO translation of the meaning of 8th Century judeoIslaamic in English
YOUR WORDS: …..English was NOT even a Language in 8th Century
MY REPLY: Sir I am talking about THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 Right in front of you October 9, 2018 and NOT THE 8th Century. Sorry, bring yourself back on topic "r"obert.
YOUR WORDS: That hat deacon kingJamesEnglish 'interpretation' of judeoIslaamic Belief is INCORRECT-MISCONCEPTION
……that deacon kingJamesEnglish 'interpretation' in typical euroRACIST paganChristian slaveMinds….
MY REPLY: Sir, with all due respect, I am talking about the HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 is NOT AN ACCURATE translation from Arabic into English?
Pay Attention "r"obert toThe HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 is NOT AN ACCURATE translation from Arabic into English, TODAY? YES OR NO?
....there is NO translation of the meaning of 8th Century judeoIslaamic Scholarship in English
YOUR WORDS: …..English was NOT even a Language in 8th Century
MY REPLY: Sir I am talking about THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 Right in front of you October 9, 2018 and NOT THE 8th Century. Sorry, bring yourself back on topic "r"obert.
Come back to the topic "r"obert……"
Tuesday, October 9th 2018 at 9:39AM Deacon Ron Gray
Sir, I am talking about THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 Right in front of you, that has two translations, one is in Arabic and the other in English on this date October 9, 2018 My question to you Robert, is about the accuracy of the English, translated from Arabic, is it accurate?
So, you are saying that the translation in THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is Right in front of you, that has two translations, one is in Arabic and the other in English on this date October 10, 2018 is an inaccurate translation from Arabic into English, "r"obert, is that what you are saying?
I am asking you “r”obert my question and no one else, since you are being really vague about you answer.
So, you are saying that the translation in THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is Right in front of you, that has two translations, one is in Arabic and the other in English on this date October 10, 2018 is an inaccurate translation from Arabic into English, "r"obert, is that what you are saying?
Talk to me about The material found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is Right in front of you, Focus on the Material and the topic at hand.
This Sûrat Hûd [Prophet Hûd] XI Bismillaahir Rahmaan irRaheem is not the issue, THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is Right in front of you, IS.
My question is, So, you are saying that the translation in THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is Right in front of you, that has two translations, one is in Arabic and the other in English on this date October 10, 2018 is an inaccurate translation from Arabic into English, "r"obert, is that what you are saying?
Talk to me "ONLY" about The material found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is Right in front of you, Focus on the Material and the topic at hand.
Can you point out to me, where are from you paid any attention to THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is Right in front of you, that has two translations, one is in Arabic and the other in English on this date October 10, 2018 is an inaccurate translation from Arabic into English, "r"obert, is that what you are saying?
I see that you are not man enough to explain your understanding of this HADITH.
My question is, So, you are saying that the translation in THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is Right in front of you, that has two translations, one is in Arabic and the other in English on this date October 10, 2018 is an inaccurate translation from Arabic into English, "r"obert, is that what you are saying?
Talk to me "ONLY" about The material found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is Right in front of you, Focus on the Material and the topic at hand.
Don't run from THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is right in front of you.
"r" obert, I never made any assumptions on RACISM, I got all that information from The Hadith, The teachings of your spiritual leader Muhammad. Now I did make the assumption that you can tell us and the people on Black In America that the translation of THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is Right in front of you, that has two translations, one is in Arabic and the other in English on this date October 14, 2018 is an accurate translation from Arabic into English or not.
I find out that I was WRONG as hell to put my trust in you because you are not trust worthy on this subject! So, what are you saying?
Are you are saying that the information THE HADITH BOOK 60, Hadith 111 found at this link SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is right in front of you is WRONG?
All of your assumptions on RACISM are WRONG in English 'interpretations' of Original Arabic
NONE of your assumptions on the euroRacistly Ignorant Rambling is Incorrect...
Point out the assumptions of RACISM are WRONG in English 'interpretations' of Original Arabic in the Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prophets » Hadith 60 Prophets https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110
Narrated `Abdullah:
The Prophet (ﷺ) mentioned the Masih Ad-Dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one-eyed while Masih Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape. While sleeping near the Ka`ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.' Behind him I saw a man who had very curly hair and was blind in the right eye, resembling Ibn Qatan (i.e. an infidel) in appearance. He was placing his hands on the shoulders of a person while performing Tawaf around the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this? 'They replied, 'The Masih, Ad-Dajjal.' "
Are you saying that this English Translation is WRONG!
Would you please show us THE RACISM in the English Translations of Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prophets » Hadith 60 Prophets at this LINK https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 ?
Would you please show us THE RACISM in the English Translations of Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prophets » Hadith 60 Prophets at this LINK https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60
…...I, Robert Powell, OVER and OVER have written....the deaconEnglish Translation is WRONG! !! /110 ?
Are you talking about the HADITH found at SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 in English Translation is WRONG "r"obert "p"owell?
No Little "r"obert, I am no ussianBOT..OR chiraq silk and satin but I AM a person, who have been talking about only one thing now and that is to get some clarity from someone who claims to be fluent in both Arabic and in English, this HADITH and nothing else for quite some time now.
The Prophet (ﷺ) mentioned the Masih Ad-Dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one-eyed while Masih Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape. While sleeping near the Ka`ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.' Behind him I saw a man who had very curly hair and was blind in the right eye, resembling Ibn Qatan (i.e. an infidel) in appearance. He was placing his hands on the shoulders of a person while performing Tawaf around the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this? 'They replied, 'The Masih, Ad-Dajjal.' "
Are you saying that this English Translation is WRONG?
Now Brothers and Sisters who have been following this blog knows from this point on, you can't find "r"obert on the very point about the translation of this HADITH accurate: Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prophets » Hadith 60 Prophets https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 from Arabic into English?
I have ANSWERED many TIMES, your RIDICULOUS off SUBJECT
BUT....your Concession of Debate comments gets you in the Psychosis mindset...I believe....
"..my dream...Masih Ad-Dajjal...Ibn Qatan (i.e. an infidel)...Now that is a good question?.."
Thursday, October 18th 2018 at 1:00PM Deacon Ron Gray
Your answer to this question The HADITH in question is this a accurate translation from Arabic into English: Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prophets » Hadith 60 Prophets https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110
Narrated `Abdullah:
The Prophet (ﷺ) mentioned the Masih Ad-Dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one-eyed while Masih Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape. While sleeping near the Ka`ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.' Behind him I saw a man who had very curly hair and was blind in the right eye, resembling Ibn Qatan (i.e. an infidel) in appearance. He was placing his hands on the shoulders of a person while performing Tawaf around the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this? 'They replied, 'The Masih, Ad-Dajjal.' "
Are you saying that this English Translation is WRONG? And if you said that you have answered this question, point to your answer, I must have missed it along with the many people on Black In America who is following this blog.
Now Brothers and Sisters who have been following this blog knows from this point on, you can't find "r"obert on the very point about the translation of this HADITH accurate: Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prophets » Hadith 60 Prophets https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 from Arabic into English?
YOUR WORDS: …….The traditions of RasulAllaah(sawm) and hadeeth of Prophets is also Important
BUT
…….NO, Nada traditions of RasulAllaah(sawm), Adaam-Nur-Yusuf-Ibraheem-Musa, etal(as) teaches
euroRACIST, paganCOLORIZATION,......Science and Creation are Valid CHANGE traditions.....
That is not what I am talking at ALL "r'obert.
The HADITH in question is this a accurate translation from Arabic into English: Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prophets » Hadith 60 Prophets https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110
That is all I asked you.
Point to me where you answered my question of This HADITH in question is this a accurate translation from Arabic into English: Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prophets » Hadith 60 Prophets https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 in your last reply "r"obert, can you do that?
Why can't you answer this question Little "r"obert: The HADITH in question is this a accurate translation from Arabic into English: Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prophets » Hadith 60 Prophets https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110
Narrated `Abdullah:
The Prophet (ﷺ) mentioned the Masih Ad-Dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one-eyed while Masih Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape. While sleeping near the Ka`ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.' Behind him I saw a man who had very curly hair and was blind in the right eye, resembling Ibn Qatan (i.e. an infidel) in appearance. He was placing his hands on the shoulders of a person while performing Tawaf around the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this? 'They replied, 'The Masih, Ad-Dajjal.' "
Are you saying that this English Translation is WRONG? Little "r'obert, what are you saying SIR?
Are you saying The HADITH in question is NOT an accurate translation from Arabic into English at this website SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 ?
Yes, the meaning and interpretation is a psychotic Racist LIE and IS WRONG.....
1. FOR the 2Billioneth time....this is NOT a Translation.....
2. Your dumbDownism EVEN states in YOUR comments an interpretation....
3. Yes, the meaning and interpretation is a psychotic Racist LIE and IS WRONG.....
Monday, October 22nd 2018 at 8:17AM robert powell | delete
"......Just to clarify what you are saying.
Are you saying The HADITH in question is NOT an accurate translation from Arabic into English at this website SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 ?
Yes, the meaning and interpretation is a psychotic Racist LIE and IS WRONG.....
Point out the Racist LIE in this Translation at SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 ? .." Monday, October 22nd 2018 at 8:59AM Deacon Ron Gray
The Prophet (ﷺ) mentioned the Masih Ad-Dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one-eyed while Masih Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape. While sleeping near the Ka`ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.' Behind him I saw a man who had very curly hair and was blind in the right eye, resembling Ibn Qatan (i.e. an infidel) in appearance. He was placing his hands on the shoulders of a person while performing Tawaf around the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this? 'They replied, 'The Masih, Ad-Dajjal.' "
Where is the trump$ette? If you can't find Trump there, then you got BUSTED OF LYING AGAIN, WOW!!!
2. deaconRussianBot….PASTED, Misinformation, Misconceptions of COLORED'whiteOpinions' is not Truth
SORRY Little "r'obert are you saying that the information found on SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 is PASTED, Misinformation, Misconceptions of COLORED'whiteOpinions' is not Truth?
YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS YET, WHY Little "r"obert? Because you don't want to admit that you got BUSTED again for LYING ON THE HADITH.
Then why don't you say what you mean then. If you are saying YES...yea..uhhuh...awah...OF COURSE..... The Hadith found at SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 is the Product of euroRACIST paganChristians, then say it!
".....Then why don't you say what you mean then. If you are saying YES...yea..uhhuh...awah...OF COURSE ..... The Hadith found at SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 is the Product of euroRACIST paganChristians, then say it!
or
Is that what grown people would have said...."
Wednesday, October 24th 2018 at 7:19PM Deacon Ron Gray
Little "r"obert grown people try to be intelligent and educated and say what they mean.
I 'am asking YOU about, is the translation found on the SUNNAH.COM website https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 is an accurate translation from Arabic into English and now you are trying to derail my question to add, paganChristian, BARBARIANS, slavers-colonialists, that was not around when this HADITH was written, some latinoJesus, that was not created when this HADITH was written, to some COLORED'supremists.
Litter "r"obert you can't even stay in the same time frame in which this HADITH was written, let lone, if this translation from Arabic into English on the website SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 is accurate or not.
If this is the way you taught your classes, your students need to demand their money back because they did not learn nothing in your classes about The Prophet Mohamed(sawm), Islam or THE HADITH. WOW!!!
You can't even talk to me on the same topic of this HADITH found on SUNNAH.COM website https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 That is what I have been asking you for a while now and you have not directed your answer to the question found on SUNNAH.COM YET, WHY?
YOUR WORDS: " YES...yea..uhhuh...awah...OF COURSE.....
MY REPLY: You said: "….OVER and OVER...AGAIN and AGAIN YES...yea..uhhuh...awah...OF COURSE..... To WHAT Little "r"obert, Little "p"owell?
I purposely posted the link five times in my last reply so there would be no doubt of the question I asked you time, after time and time again. robert focus your attention to my question that I asked you and I 'am not talking about nothing else, GOT IT.
...no NYET, nana, that is NOT AN ACCURATE meaning, interpretation or translation of African Asian
Monotheistic judeoIslaamic History, Scholarship or Science...…
"r"obertFu "SMOKEY" I am talking about SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 What did this hadith say about What the Sahih al-Bukhari said how Prophet Muhammed described "Yeshua" was The Son of Maryam" as being of what complexion?
That is OK Little "r"obertFu, since you can't tell me if the translation on SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 is right or not, which you claim is a Racist LIE and you continue to speak in general terms as if you are LOST IN SPACE, take a two week vacation stating NOW.
YOUR WORDS: 3. Yes, the meaning and interpretation is a psychotic Racist LIE and IS WRONG.....
Then what is the true translation from Arabic into English of the Hadith found on SUNNAH.COM https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/110 really is, can you do that Robert?
Now keep in mind, I am not asking you a thing about some 2 BILION Muslim Scholarship needs.
I want you know about from you what the translation is from Arabic into English, write it down for me in your next reply, can you do that Robert powell?
ALL of your last reply never mentioned the Sunnah.com https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/ is a accurate Translation from Arabic into English or not? All of that in your last reply is what I consider as "SMOKE" Smokey.
If anything Little "r"obert you are acting robotic with this routine algorithm of unintelligible, incomprehensible, indiscernible, meaningless, unfathomable, obscure, cryptic, inscrutable, enigmatic, mumbled, indistinct, unclear · slurred, incoherent, confused, garbled, scrambled, muddled, jumbled, senseless, rambling which is all Greek to me, illegible, indecipherable, unreadable, hard to read, BULL of a reply.
Little "r"obert, I see that you have no intent to answer this question for accuracy because you know that I know that this Translation from Arabic into English is a correct one and you will do everything in your weak state of mind to misdirect this interpretation from Arabic into English that this Hadeeth said:
"I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Ka`ba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.' "
YOUR WORDS: AND to respond to the DEFEATED COLORED debaterDeacon of kingJames
Hey Little "r"obert have you notice that we are not debating anything out of The Holy Bible King James version?
Hey Little "r"obert have you notice that we are debating over the translation of the Hadeeth found on a Muslim website to train Muslim with a collection of traditions containing sayings of the prophet Muhammad which, with accounts of his daily practice (the Sunna), constitute the major source of guidance for Muslims apart from the Koran and has nothing to do with the conspiracy theorist and psychoticRACIST.... unless you are bring the crap to this conversation.
Poor little "r"obert, you can't even think straight with the gift of knowing Arabic and stumbling across the written form of English. Poor "r"obert, you are looking really foolish right now with your refusal to admit the accuracy of the translation from Arabic into English this Hadeeth found on Sunnah.com https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/ is a accurate Translation from Arabic into English or not?
You poor lost soul you. Well I will leave you now and I will turn you over to you own retro bait mind. POOR YOU...
Thank You but ALL of your last reply never mentioned the Sunnah.com https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/ is a accurate Translation from Arabic into English or not? All of that in your last reply is what I consider as "SMOKE" Smokey.
NOW STOP RIGHT HERE!!! Do you see any use of the word "interpretation" in the sentence?
If anything Little "r"obert you are acting robotic with this routine algorithm of unintelligible, incomprehensible, indiscernible, meaningless, unfathomable, obscure, cryptic, inscrutable, enigmatic, mumbled, indistinct, unclear · slurred, incoherent, confused, garbled, scrambled, muddled, jumbled, senseless, rambling which is all Greek to me, illegible, indecipherable, unreadable, hard to read, BULL of a reply.
You can't answer the question because it is you is a Algorithm yourself because consciousness is beyond your programing. Little "r"obert.
Hey Little "r"obert have you notice that we are not debating anything out of The Holy Bible King James version?
Hey Little "r"obert have you notice that we are debating over the translation of the Hadeeth found on a Muslim website to train Muslims with a collection of traditions containing sayings of the prophet Muhammad which, with accounts of his daily practice (the Sunna), constitute the major source of guidance for Muslims apart from the Quran and has nothing to do with the conspiracy theorist and psychoticRACIST.... unless you are bring the crap to this conversation.
Poor little "r"obert, you can't even think straight with the gift of knowing Arabic as a language and as you stumble across the written form of English. Poor "r"obert, you are looking really foolish right now with your refusal to admit the accuracy of the translation from Arabic into English this Hadeeth found on Sunnah.com https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/ is a accurate Translation from Arabic into English or not?
You poor lost soul you. Well I will leave you now and I will turn you over to your own retro bait mind. POOR YOU...
Are you saying that the translations found here on Sunnah.com https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/ is deceptive, confused, deceiving, equivocal, ambiguous, fallacious, specious, spurious, false and misleading and is not a accurate Translation for Arabic into English, is that what you are saying?
Because from what I have learned that when a Muslim referred to a White Skin Man, they was called RED.
when a Muslim referred to a very dark or describe the complexion of a very dark skin man, Muslim used the term ADAM in Arabic. It is said that the term comes from the expression the ‘face’ or ‘surface of the earth’ which means the color of the earth. From this term Adam, the father of mankind, received his name”.
What these scholars say about the origin of our father Adam’s name is consistent with what Allah says in the Quran about the creation of Adam. Allah says that He created Adam from black mud. Since Adam was created from black mud, it’s only natural for his complexion to be like that of black mud, which is very “adam”.
The Arabs used the term “shadeed al udma (very adam)”
So, Little "r" as obert, you can STOP THAT LIE THAT There is NO word in the ORIGINAL African Asian Arabic text meaning " COLORED brown/white/black or olive"
Black is "ADAM"
Very Black is: "SHADEED AL UDMA" Meaning Very ADAM.
When referring to a White Slave, his skin tone was "RED."
And a Brown skin person is call a "Asmar."
You think that everyone is a damn fool, don't you. There are words in the ORIGINAL African Asian Arabic text meaning " COLORED brown/white/black or olive" Now are you REFUTING MY FINDINGD?
Are you saying that the translations found here on Sunnah.com https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/ is deceptive, confused, deceiving, equivocal, ambiguous, fallacious, specious, spurious, false and misleading and is not a accurate Translation from Arabic into English, is that what you are saying?
Are you saying that the translations found here on Sunnah.com https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/ is deceptive, confused, deceiving, equivocal, ambiguous, fallacious, specious, spurious, false and misleading and is not a accurate Translation from Arabic into English, is that what you are saying?
Little "r"obert, You have not offered nor corrective translation because you was just talk and no substance. Hey Little "r"obert have you notice that we are not debating anything out of The Holy Bible King James version?
Hey Little "r"obert have you notice that we are debating over the translation of the Hadeeth found on a Muslim website to train Muslims with a collection of traditions containing sayings of the prophet Muhammad which, with accounts of his daily practice (the Sunna), constitute the major source of guidance for Muslims apart from the Quran and has nothing to do with the conspiracy theorist and psychoticRACIST.... unless you are bringing the crap to this conversation.
Poor little "r"obert, you can't even think straight with the gift of knowing Arabic as a language and as you stumble across the written form of English because you know for a FACT that you are LYING and have been LYING about this white Jesus, for years now.
Poor "r"obert, you are looking really foolish right now with your refusal to admit the accuracy of the translation from Arabic into English this Hadeeth found on Sunnah.com https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/ is a accurate Translation from Arabic into English or not?
You poor lost soul you. Well I will leave you now and I will turn you over to your own retro bait mind. POOR YOU...
Why do you try to turn your back on the first century evidence that Yahusha was not white?
Little "r"obert, prior to the 1400’s, the ruling nation of Europe and all of the known world worshiped a black Messiah. From the first century of when the messiah hit the scene preaching the good news to the Israelites, all the way up until the late 1400’s when black people were ruling Europe; everyone living during those time periods were very aware that Yahusha, who the world now calls Jesus, was a black man.
Many well noted history books such as From Babylon to Timbuktu, The Black Hebrews and The Black Christ, Blacked Out Through Whitewashed, etc. that document the history of the different nations of people who lived in ancient times, all attest to the fact that the Hebrew Messiah of the bible was indeed a black man. It wasn’t until the year 1492, when the Romans conquered the Moors (African Muslims & Hebrew Israelites from the tribe of Judah who were ruling Europe) that the image of the Messiah began to change from black to white.
With the Moors out of the picture, the Europeans immediately began whitewashing all of the black history in Europe, replacing all of the original black images of the Messiah and our people, with white images of their people; to instill White Supremacy throughout Europe. To add insult to injury, the blacks who were now considered second class citizens, were forbidden to educate themselves and had to learn their history from their oppressors. This would further destroy them because the only way that black people would be able to learn, would now be through images.
It is sad to see that you have bought into this brainwashing of a white Jesus and it is a shame that your own eye is telling you the true but you mind is locked on being unintelligent, ignorant, dense as hell, brainless and mindless of the teaching of that heathen, foolish, be a dull-witted to the facts, dull and slow-witted, being dunce-like or being simpleminded and empty-headed, this is the character that you have been showing the people on Black In America for many years now.
According to David Freedberg, in his work: The Power of Images, “Pictures were justified because they were the books of the illiterate…and writers like Martin Luther [a white Christian] emphasized the value of pictures which showed histories. Histories, in the broad sense, meant pictures and sculptures with narrative subjects from the Bible.” So after the Hebrews that were living in Europe were conquered, the new class of illiterate blacks had to learn a whitewashed history; a history they would not know was originally their own. This method of brainwashing through whitewashing then became the norm, and spread from Europe all the way to the Americas.
When the Europeans took our ancestors from the coast of Africa and brought us to the foreign lands of the Americas; the first thing they did was brainwash our minds. They stripped us of our identity, gave us new names, forbade us from speaking our Hebrew language, forbade us from worshiping Yahuah and even forbade us to read the bible so they couldn’t discover the truth. The religion of the Christianity and the image of a White Jesus was then forced upon our ancestor’s, and as time passed; our people forgot who they were and accepted the culture of America, it’s christian religion, and it’s white Jesus. They then passed their beliefs down to us, causing us to believe that the Messiah was white too.
By convincing us that the son of God was white; we automatically associated whiteness with superiority and blackness with inferiority. They then used our low self esteem against us, to make us think that we should be grateful to be the slaves of a white man. Although we are no longer slaves, many of our people still have this mentality today where they feel privileged and honored to be in the presence of a white man. They do this because it has been embedded into their minds through religious programming that God is white; therefore his people must be white. But none of these lies that White America has taught us is true, especially about the color of Yahusha (Jesus). See Little "r"obert, this is the LIE that you are promoting to our people on Black In America and you are no better then a 69 IQ RETARD.
Don't bring your ass back to this blog promoting that white brainwashing and that heathen indoctrination and conditioning because you have been re-educate and propagandize to promote their peace of number one mainline brand BULL💩, trying to influence Whitewashing here which you failed to do. NO, NOT HERE AND NOT EVER.
COLORED'blackHebrewIsraelite' RACIST NONSENSE can ONLY be referenced by euroPEON Misconceptions
….No where in GENESIS of Adaam(as) given by Creator in TORAH written...."whiteTHIS, whiteTHAT, blackTHIS THAT"
STOP this russianBOT division NONSENSE at BIA, an African American Family site.....
***************************************************************************** ".....According to David Freedberg, ….The Black Hebrews and The Black Christ,
........the son of God was white; we automatically associated whiteness with superiority...…
white brainwashing and that heathen indoctrination and conditioning because you have been re-educate
and propagandize...……..to influence Whitewashing here ….."
Sunday, December 2nd 2018 at 8:20PM Deacon Ron Gray
I see that you are totally shook up now. You had nothing to say about the great history and the research of the rule of Black people ruling over Europe before the mid to late 1400's when the brainwashing and your knowledge of history began. All the history before that, you seen to be as silent as hell in that subject, I wonder WHY?
Many well noted history books such as From Babylon to Timbuktu, The Black Hebrews and The Black Christ, Blacked Out Through Whitewashed, etc. that document the history of the different nations of people who lived in ancient times, all attest to the fact that the Hebrew Messiah of the bible was indeed a black man. It wasn’t until the year 1492, when the Romans conquered the Moors (African Muslims & Hebrew Israelites from the tribe of Judah who were ruling Europe) that the image of the Messiah began to change from black to white.
Did you see that paragraph? Do you understand the meaning of that history? If you did, then STOP promoting that HEATHEN way of whitewashing here on Black In America, unless you and that heathen have the same agenda "THE CONTIINUATION OF THE MINDS OF THE BLACK AMERICAN.
That will not happen here on my blogs, do you hear me Little "r"?
Is that all you got Little "r"? You have not said a thing but repeat in broken English the proof that Yahushua was not White and history is the proof.
Many well noted history books such as From Babylon to Timbuktu, The Black Hebrews and The Black Christ, Blacked Out Through Whitewashed, etc. that document the history of the different nations of people who lived in ancient times, all attest to the fact that the Hebrew Messiah of the bible was indeed a black man. It wasn’t until the year 1492, when the Romans conquered the Moors (African Muslims & Hebrew Israelites from the tribe of Judah who were ruling Europe) that the image of the Messiah began to change from black to white.
Did you see that paragraph? Do you understand the meaning of that history?
Hey Little "r" I did not ask you about what language The History of Iraq-Babylon TO Timbuktu is Written in, now DID I SMOKEY?
Many well noted history books such as From Babylon to Timbuktu, The Black Hebrews and The Black Christ, Blacked Out Through Whitewashed, etc. that document the history of the different nations of people who lived in ancient times, all attest to the fact that the Hebrew Messiah of the bible was indeed a black man. It wasn’t until the year 1492, when the Romans conquered the Moors (African Muslims & Hebrew Israelites from the tribe of Judah who were ruling Europe) that the image of the Messiah began to change from black to white.
Did you see that paragraph? Do you understand the meaning of that history? What is this paragraph saying, in your opinion?
Hey Little "r" HERE'S YOUR OWN WORDS: 1. I think the same thing of you now as ALWAYS....you are ignorant...and 'black' stereotypically proud
MY REPLY: I never asked you what you think of me SMOKEY. What I did ask you was this: "Did you see that paragraph? Do you understand the meaning of that history? What is this paragraph saying, in your opinion?
Hey Little "r" HERE'S YOUR OWN WORDS: 2. I think you are UNAWARE that African Asian Monotheistic Belief is WRITTEN, Understood has meaning in Hebrew-Arabic
MY REPLY: This paragraph in question has nothing to do with being Aware or UNAWARE of African Asian Monotheistic Belief is WRITTEN, Understood has meaning in Hebrew-Arabic or kingJames English, but I understand why you went there and it is because this question is beyond your programming.
Hey Little "r" HERE'S YOUR OWN WORDS: 3. I think you are UNAWARE that … circa Cristopher coloumbus ….it was the Muslims that controlled the Iberian Peninsula
and that Ferdinand-Isabella and the paganChristian popeFolk may have pushed the Muslims back to Africa Asia
MY REPLY: I really want to see you point out to me and the people here on Black In America where you see any reference to Cristopher coloumbus or the Muslims that controlled the Iberian Peninsula or the the paganChristian popeFolk may have pushed the Muslims back to Africa Asia
Here's that paragraph in question: Many well noted history books such as From Babylon to Timbuktu, The Black Hebrews and The Black Christ, Blacked Out Through Whitewashed, etc. that document the history of the different nations of people who lived in ancient times, all attest to the fact that the Hebrew Messiah of the bible was indeed a black man. It wasn’t until the year 1492, when the Romans conquered the Moors (African Muslims & Hebrew Israelites from the tribe of Judah who were ruling Europe) that the image of the Messiah began to change from black to white.
Your cookie cutter answers do fit this paragraph, what so ever and I will make a prediction: I will not answer the question that is now in front of you right now. Because you could not have seen this paragraph with understanding by the unintelligent, ignorant ass, dense, brainless, mindless, foolish, dull-witted, dull, simpleminded, empty-headed, halfwitted and idiotic, moronic, imbecilic, chuckleheaded · answer you gave Little "r". WOW!!! What a Maroon.
You have not won 💩 Little "r." You have not answer this question: I really want to see you point out to me and the people here on Black In America where you see any reference to Cristopher coloumbus or the Muslims that controlled the Iberian Peninsula or the paganChristian popeFolk may have pushed the Muslims back to Africa Asia, Can you do that Little "r"?
Here's that paragraph in question: Many well noted history books such as From Babylon to Timbuktu, The Black Hebrews and The Black Christ, Blacked Out Through Whitewashed, etc. that document the history of the different nations of people who lived in ancient times, all attest to the fact that the Hebrew Messiah of the bible was indeed a black man. It wasn’t until the year 1492, when the Romans conquered the Moors (African Muslims & Hebrew Israelites from the tribe of Judah who were ruling Europe) that the image of the Messiah began to change from black to white.
Your cookie cutter answers do not fit this paragraph, what so ever and I will make a prediction: that you will not answer the question that is now in front of you right now. Because you could not have seen this paragraph with understanding by the unintelligent, ignorant ass, dense, brainless, mindless, foolish, dull-witted, dull, simpleminded, empty-headed, halfwitted and idiotic, moronic, imbecilic, chuckleheaded · answer you gave Little "r". WOW!!! What a Maroon.
Answer the question Little "r": I really want to see you point out to me and the people here on Black In America where you see any reference to Cristopher coloumbus or the Muslims that controlled the Iberian Peninsula or the the paganChristian popeFolk may have pushed the Muslims back to Africa Asia, in that paragraph, can you do that?
MY REPLY: Here's that paragraph in question: Many well noted history books such as From Babylon to Timbuktu, The Black Hebrews and The Black Christ, Blacked Out Through Whitewashed, etc. that document the history of the different nations of people who lived in ancient times, all attest to the fact that the Hebrew Messiah of the bible was indeed a black man. It wasn’t until the year 1492, when the Romans conquered the Moors (African Muslims & Hebrew Israelites from the tribe of Judah who were ruling Europe) that the image of the Messiah began to change from black to white.
I really want to see you point out to me and the people here on Black In America where you see any reference to Cristopher coloumbus, can you do that?
YOUR COMMENT: 2. 1492: These waring paganChristian racists...sent Columbus west...because the Muslims ruled EAST...
MY REPLY: HEY FuFu where is the word "Cristopher coloumbus, is found in that paragraph? You can't find it can YOU? WHY Little "r"?
YOUR COMMENT: 3. 1492: only Hebrews envolved were the financiers of columbusShips to enslave and genocide Africa Asian and America
MY REPLY: Where in this paragraph CAN you find The Hebrews envolvement were it states, the financiers of columbusShips? You can't find it can you Little "r" WHY?
YOUR COMMENT: 4. 1492: No MUSLIM in Europe or Africa Asia called self COLORED'blackORwhite"---Colorization is racist paganChristian
MY REPLY: You act like there was no such people as a Black African MUSLUM, is there a such people Little "r"?
YOUR COMMENT: 5. 1492: No judeoIslaamic Hebrew/muslim BELIEVE in a Messiah of 1st Century or 21st Century
MY REPLY: Muhammad’s first cousin, Fadl ibn Abbas, who was described as a very handsome man, even said: “I am the black skinned one (al-Akhdar). I am well-known. My complexion is black. I am from the noble house of the Arabs.” And what was that black “noble house”? Muhammad’s own Quraish tribe, which was black. CAN YOU REFUTE THAT FINDING Little "r"obert?
Are these descriptions Muslims called themselves:
KEDAR dark-skinned, the second son of Ishmael ( Genesis 25:13 ). and the name of a great tribe of Arabs settled on the northwest of the peninsula and on the confines of Palestine. The "glory of Kedar" is recorded by the prophet Isaiah, ( Isaiah 21:13-17 ) in the burden upon Arabia; and its importance may also be inferred from the "princes of Kedar" mentioned by Ezekiel, ( Ezekiel 27:21 ) as well as the pastoral character of the tribe. They appear also to have been, like the wandering tribes of the present day, "archers" and "mighty men." ( Isaiah 21:17 ) comp. Psal 120:5 That they also settled in villages or towns we find from Isaiah. ( Isaiah 42:11 ) The tribe seems to have been one of the most conspicuous of all the Ishmaelite tribes, and hence the rabbins call the Arabians universally by this name.
[N] indicates this entry was also found in Nave's Topical Bible [E] indicates this entry was also found in Easton's Bible Dictionary [H] indicates this entry was also found in Hitchcock's Bible Names
Bibliography Information Smith, William, Dr. "Entry for 'Kedar'". "Smith's Bible Dictionary". . 1901. Encyclopedias - International Standard Bible Encyclopedia - Kedar KEDAR ke'-dar (qedhar; Kedar):
Second in order of the sons of Ishmael (Genesis 25:13 parallel 1 Chronicles 1:29). The name occurs as typical of a distant eastern country in opposition to the lands of the Mediterranean (Jeremiah 2:10). The author of Second Isa introduces this tribe in company with Nebaioth, and both are represented as owners of flocks (Isaiah 60:7). Evidence of their nomadic habits appears in Jeremiah 49:28,29, where they are classed among the Bene-Qedhem, and mention is made of their flocks, camels, tents, curtains and furniture. They are spoken of (Isaiah 42:11) as dwelling in chatserim ("villages"), from which it would appear that they were a somewhat settled tribe, corresponding to the Arabic chadariya or "town-dwellers," as distinct from wabariya or "nomads." Ezekiel (27:21) gives another hint of their pastoral nature where, in his detailed picture of the wealth of Tyre, Kedar and Arabia provide the Tyrians with lambs, rams and goats. The fame of the tribe is further reflected in Isaiah 21:16,17 (the only allusion to their might in war), and in the figurative references to their tents (Psalms 120:5; Song of Solomon 1:5). In this last passage where the tents are made symbolic of dark beauty, the word qadhar ("to be black") may have been in the writer's mind.
The settlements of Kedar were probably in the Northwest of Arabia, not far from the borders of Palestine. Assyrian inscriptions have thrown light upon the history of the tribe. There Kedar is mentioned along with the Arabs and Nebaioth, which decides its identity with Kedar of the Old Testament, and there is found also an account of the conflicts between the tribe and King Assurbanipal (see Margoliouth in HDB).
Of the Ishmaelite tribes, Kedar must have been one of the most important, and thus in later times the name came to be applied to all the wild tribes of the desert. It is through Kedar (Arabic, keidar) that Muslim genealogists trace the descent of Mohammed from Ishmael.
Little "r"obert this term "KEDAR" is a description of what Muslims called themselves and it was well documented in The Holy Quran and In the King James version of the Bible.
DALHAM, The ten lordly sons of Abd al-Mutalib were deep black (dalham) in colour and big/tall (dukhm).
SUD Abd Allah ibn Abbas was very black and tall. Those of Abu Talibs’s family, who are the most noble of men, are dark skinned, black and tall (sud).
The term Adam ÂÏã is a word that most are oblivious to. Most only know that Adam is the father of mankind but they do not know that it is a term used for a specific colour and that the colour is a very dark colour. It is also a very commonly used term in classical Arabic and one of the colours used to describe what the original Arabs looked like.
Ibn Mansoor Al Thaalabi said in his book Fiqqatu Lugghah wa Sarr ,page 448 ”That the colour Adam is blackness in humans and when referring to camels it means whiteness”
He also said in Fiqqatu Lughghah, Chapter 13 – The Degrees of Blackness in Humans, Page 126 ”If it’s blackness is increased on Asmar, then it is Adam.”
Abu Waleed Sulaymaan bin Khalf AlBaaji Al Andalusy said in his book Al Muntaqy Sharr Al MuwT Chapter 7 , page 230, (The colour)” Adam is above Asmar (meaning darker ) towering it to (the colour) jet blackº‘
Ibn Qutaybah said in his book Al Maarif page 27 ”Abu Mohammed said: The green is the black meaning Al Udmah” In other words Udmah and (jet) black are the same thing.
Ibn Qutaybah said in his book Al Maarif page 27 ”Abu Mohammed said: The green is the black meaning Al Udmah” In other words Udmah and (jet) black are the same thing.
Imaam Suyooti Al Jawahir Uluqood Chapter 2 pages 574 -575 ”And if the yellow decreases and it leans towards jet black then it is called Adam”
Imam Al Tabari gives a description of Mohammed Al Nafs Al Zaky in his book Tarikh Al Tabary(ÊÇÑíÎ ÇáØÈÑí), page 562.
‘‘Mohammed was Adam Shadeed Al Udama , Adlam and he was nicknamed father of Black coal because of his udmah. Abu Mansoor called him charcoal.”
HOW THE ARABS USED COLOURS TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE
Adam : ÇÏã Adam Shadeed Al Udmah : ÇÏã ÔÏíÏ ÇáÇÏãÉ Adlam : ÇÏáã Aswad : ÇÓæÏ Asmar : ÇÓãÑ Asham : ÇÓÍã Green : ÇÎÖÑ White :
So you can STOP your BULL💩 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU ARE A LIER TO WHAT THE MUSLIMS CALL THEMSELVES AND YOU CAN*T REFUTE NONE OF FACTS I HAVE PROVIDED IN MY REPLY, NOW CAN YOU?
"...…..[N] indicates this entry was also found in Nave's Topical Bible [E] indicates this entry was also found in Easton's Bible Dictionary [H] indicates this entry was also found in Hitchcock's Bible Names
Bibliography Information Smith, William, Dr. "Entry for 'Kedar'". "Smith's Bible Dictionary". . 1901. Encyclopedias - International Standard Bible Encyclopedia - Kedar KEDAR ke'-dar (qedhar; Kedar):
BULL💩 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU ARE A LIER TO WHAT THE MUSLIMS CALL THEMSELVES AND YOU CAN*T REFUTE NONE
OF FACTS I HAVE PROVIDED IN MY REPLY, NOW CAN YOU?
What A FuFu you are!!! WOW!!!...."
Friday, December 7th 2018 at 8:18PM Deacon Ron Gray
Little "r"obert this term "KEDAR" is a description of what Muslims called themselves and it was well documented in The Holy Quran and In the King James version of the Bible.
DALHAM, The ten lordly sons of Abd al-Mutalib were deep black (dalham) in colour and big/tall (dukhm).
SUD Abd Allah ibn Abbas was very black and tall. Those of Abu Talibs’s family, who are the most noble of men, are dark skinned, black and tall (sud).
The term Adam ÂÏã is a word that most are oblivious to. Most only know that Adam is the father of mankind but they do not know that it is a term used for a specific colour and that the colour is a very dark colour. It is also a very commonly used term in classical Arabic and one of the colours used to describe what the original Arabs looked like.
Ibn Mansoor Al Thaalabi said in his book Fiqqatu Lugghah wa Sarr ,page 448 ”That the colour Adam is blackness in humans and when referring to camels it means whiteness”
He also said in Fiqqatu Lughghah, Chapter 13 – The Degrees of Blackness in Humans, Page 126 ”If it’s blackness is increased on Asmar, then it is Adam.”
Abu Waleed Sulaymaan bin Khalf AlBaaji Al Andalusy said in his book Al Muntaqy Sharr Al MuwT Chapter 7 , page 230, (The colour)” Adam is above Asmar (meaning darker ) towering it to (the colour) jet blackº‘
Ibn Qutaybah said in his book Al Maarif page 27 ”Abu Mohammed said: The green is the black meaning Al Udmah” In other words Udmah and (jet) black are the same thing.
Ibn Qutaybah said in his book Al Maarif page 27 ”Abu Mohammed said: The green is the black meaning Al Udmah” In other words Udmah and (jet) black are the same thing.
Imaam Suyooti Al Jawahir Uluqood Chapter 2 pages 574 -575 ”And if the yellow decreases and it leans towards jet black then it is called Adam”
Imam Al Tabari gives a description of Mohammed Al Nafs Al Zaky in his book Tarikh Al Tabary(ÊÇÑíÎ ÇáØÈÑí), page 562.
‘‘Mohammed was Adam Shadeed Al Udama , Adlam and he was nicknamed father of Black coal because of his udmah. Abu Mansoor called him charcoal.”
HOW THE ARABS USED COLOURS TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE
Adam : ÇÏã Adam Shadeed Al Udmah : ÇÏã ÔÏíÏ ÇáÇÏãÉ Adlam : ÇÏáã Aswad : ÇÓæÏ Asmar : ÇÓãÑ Asham : ÇÓÍã Green : ÇÎÖÑ White :
So you can STOP your BULL💩 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU ARE A LIER TO WHAT THE MUSLIMS CALL THEMSELVES AND YOU CAN*T REFUTE NONE OF FACTS I HAVE PROVIDED IN MY REPLY, NOW CAN YOU?
Little "r"obert this term "KEDAR" is a description of what Muslims called themselves and it was well documented in The Holy Quran and In the King James version of the Bible. CAN YOU REFUTE THIS TERM.
Little "r"obert this term "DALHAM", The ten lordly sons of Abd al-Mutalib were deep black (dalham) in colour and big/tall (dukhm).
Little "r"obert this term "SUD" Abd Allah ibn Abbas was very black and tall. Those of Abu Talibs’s family, who are the most noble of men, are dark skinned, black and tall (sud).
Little "r"obert this term "ADAM" ÂÏã is a word that most are oblivious to. Most only know that Adam is the father of mankind but they do not know that it is a term used for a specific colour and that the colour is a very dark colour. It is also a very commonly used term in classical Arabic and one of the colours used to describe what the original Arabs looked like.
YOU Have not REFUTED any of the terms that I have quoted with your cookie cutting technique.
Little "r"obert, on your next reply, I want you to REFUTE any of these terms that African Asian use to describe themselves, can you do that for us Little "r"obert?
"…...this term "KEDAR" is a description of what Muslims called themselves and it was well documented in The Holy Quran and In the King James version of the Bible
this term "DALHAM", The ten lordly sons of Abd al-Mutalib were deep black (dalham) in colour and big/tall (dukhm).
this term "SUD" Abd Allah ibn Abbas was very black and tall. Those of Abu Talibs’s family, who are the most noble of men, are dark skinned, black and tall (sud).
"ADAM"..... what the original Arabs looked like.
I want you to REFUTE any of these terms that African Asian use to describe themselves..."
Wednesday, December 12th 2018 at 4:21PM Deacon Ron Gray
You have not refuted a thing that I have said in your last reply. I have shared with you historical facts that have been documented by Islamic scholars and historians. I have provided the sources and references for you Little "r" obert or anyone to verify and check these FACTS for themselves.
The topics covered are the original race and colour of the Arabs according to how the Arabs described themselves, descriptions of the companions of the Prophet Mohammed may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon them and those that followed them, descriptions of the non Arabs and their virtues, slavery, weak narrations and more.
Jaamea Bayaan Al-Ilm Chapter 1 Page 22 ”Whoever hides knowledge, it is as if he is an ignorant person.”
This is HOW THE ARABS USED COLOURS TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE AND THEMSELVES. Let us first talk about the description of "Adam." ADAM is a term that is very commonly used term in classical Arabic and one of the colors used to describe what the original Arabs looked like. I like to use reference points to back up my findings and not just run off at the mouth with cookie cutting BULL💩, one size fit all.
The term Adam ÂÏã is a word that most are oblivious to. Most only know that Adam is the father of mankind but they do not know that it is a term used for a specific colour and that the colour is a very dark colour.
According to Ibn Mansoor Al Thaalabi said in his book Fiqqatu Lugghah wa Sarr ,page 448 ”That the colour Adam is blackness in humans and when referring to camels it means whiteness”
Ibn Mansoor Al Thaalabi also said ”That the colour Adam is blackness in humans and when referring to camels it means whiteness” He also said in Fiqqatu Lughghah, Chapter 13 – The Degrees of Blackness in Humans, Page 126 ”If it’s blackness is increased on Asmar, then it is Adam.”
According to Abu Waleed Sulaymaan bin Khalf AlBaaji Al Andalusy said in his book Al Muntaqy Sharr Al MuwT Chapter 7 , page 230, (The colour)” Adam is above Asmar (meaning darker ) towering it to (the colour) jet blackº‘
According to Abu Hilal Al Askary said in his book Takhalus fee Marifatu Asmaae Al Ashyaa, page 362 ” And Al Udmah in humans is a branch of blackness, an Adam coloured man and an Udmah coloured woman”
According to Ibn Qutaybah said in his book Al Maarif page 27 ”Abu Mohammed said: The green is the black meaning Al Udmah” In other words Udmah and (jet) black are the same thing
According to Majd Al Deen Abi Asaa’daat AlMubarrak ibn Muhammed Ibn Al Atheer said in his book Al Nihaya fee Ghareeb Al Hadeeth Chapter 1 page 32 ” The colour Adam in humans is an intense Sumarah (brown)”
According to Abu Ali Al Hassan Ibn Al Ghafaari Al Farsi said in his book , Al Hujjah Lilfaraa Al Sabah Al Amsaar Bil Hijaaz wa Al Iraaq Wa Shaam Al Ladhina Dhakaruhum Abu Bakr Ibn Mujaahid , Chapter 2 Page 14 ”Al Adam (the colour) is that which has no whiteness in according to the way the people speak , so they say an Adam coloured man to he that has no white/ whiteness in him.”
SHADEED ALUDMAH/ One word that has been consistently mistranslated is the phrase ÇÏã ÔÏíÏ ÇáÇÏãÉ. This phrase is used a countless number of times to describe various companions of the Prophet Mohammed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æ Óáã and others such as Ali Ibn Abi Talib, Umar bin Al Khataab , Muadh Ibn Jabal , Abdullah Ibn Masood, Yazeed Ibn Muawiyyah, Fadhl ibn Abbaas Ibn Utabah, Bilal Ibn Rabah may Allah be pleased with them and Musa alayhi Al Salam just to name a few.
One great Arabic scholar called Ibn Sayaadah said, when explaining the meaning of the word Asham(ÇÓÍã ) in his book: Al Hakm Al Muheet Al A’dam , Chapter 3, page 215 Al Asham wa Al Suhaam wa Al Sahmah means black(ness) and every black is Asham…. And the two suhaams are shadeed Al Udmah.
he also said ” jet black is an intense Udmah”in other words jet black and Shadeed Al Udmah mean the same thing.
According to Imaam Al Alaamah Al Dhahabi says in his book Seera A’laam Al Nubalaa Chapter 2 page 168 ‘They said Aswad (jet black) and this means whoever is covered in blackness. They said (jet )black or Shadeed Al Udmah.”
According to In Kitaab Al Alfaadh by Ibn Sakeet in the Chapter of colours, page 153 he said ‘ … from the black men , and he is Shadeed al Udmah” in other words and from the people who are (jet) black in complexion they are also called Shadeed Al Udmah.
Here's Another clear explanation of this can be found in the book called Fiqqatu Al Lughah(ÝÞÉ ÇááÛÉ). Chapter 13 , page 126. In this chapter, the scholar explains the levels of blackness in humans.‘….. and if it (the colour) is darker than (the colour) Adam then it is (called) Asham
According to Imam Al Tabari gives a description of Mohammed Al Nafs Al Zaky in his book Tarikh Al Tabary(ÊÇÑíÎ ÇáØÈÑí), page 562. ‘‘Mohammed was Adam Shadeed Al Udama , Adlam and he was nicknamed father of Black coal because of his Udmah. Abu Ja’far called him charcoal.” Without even having to explain what Adlam means it is quite clear as to what shaded Al Udmah meant to Al Tabary.
According to The great grammarian Ibn Sakeet gives us further clarification here: Ibn Sakeet tell us in his book Kitaab Al Al Faadh ( pages 152-153 ) that ”They say from the black men he is As Shadeed Al Udmah and from them is the Adlam and he is As Shadeed Al Udmah”
According to Al Baladhaari reports in Ansaab Al Ashraaaf Chapter 1 page 505 And when Abdul Malik mentioned Ibn Abi Bakarah, he says, ” The black ( Abi Bakarah) is a master of the people of the East”, and Abdullah Ibn Abi Bakarah was Adam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black ) ….
According to Ibn Katheer says in his book Al Bidaayah wa Al Nihaayah Chapter 8 page 149 And Mu’awiya said, Call Abdullah bin Mas’adah al Fazari the servant of Fatimah the daughter of the Messenger of Allah, for me and he was Aswad. Then he said (to Masa’dah) whiten your progeny with her”
Sometimes the colour Adam alone can be intended to mean Aswad. Both Ibn Hajjar and Asmaaey have testified to this when giving an explanation of one of the ahadith that describe the Prophet Mohammed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æ Óáã. In Fathul Baari bi sharh al Bukhari (ÝÊÍ ÇáÈÇÑí ÔÑÍ ÕÍíÍ ÇáÈÎÇÑí) Chapter 6 ,page 658 Ibn Hajjar said ºIn regards to the part of the hadith ‘ he was not white and not Adam’ …. What it is intended here is to mean he was not intensely white nor was he intensely Adam/ Aswad (jet black)
The Description Of Moses alayhis salaam According to Sahih al-Bukhari 3438 Book 60, Hadith 109 And as for Musa he was Adam in complexion and had lank hair as of he was from the men of Zut.”
Robert Powell I have more references (PROOF) that Africa Asia have describe themselves as "ADAM" BLACK. I have provided you with what Africa Asia Scholars, authors, and historians, the description of what they call themselves have a BLACK COMPLEXION.
L:ittle "r" I have just REFUTED you and gave you references to back-up what I brought to Black In America to shine some light on you and your cookie cutting, one size fit all BULL💩. You have not brought any information to support your case and until do, DON'T BRING YOUR ADAM AS* back to me until you can proof your point with FACTS.
In conclusion, Adam Shadeed al Al Udmah means Aswad(jet black). The meaning is clear to the Islamic scholars of language and fiqh, and therefore should be clear to us all.
Hey Little "r"obert, there you go again. You have said nothing or REFUTED a thing about what the scholars and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read.
Hey Little "r"obert, there you go again. You have said nothing or REFUTED a thing about what the scholars and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read.
I have provided African Asian scholars, the title of their books, what they had to say and the page number, where their statement on the complexation, can be found because I know that my findings is not about you and that is the main reason why I don't attempt to try to harm or destroy your reputation of; to disgrace; especially, to speak evil of maliciously; to dishonor you. You are not the mission of this blog but the truth is.
Now if you disagree with the what African Asian scholars has to say on the skin complexion of ADAM, Musa, or the lineage of Mohammed family tree, then it is you who needs to be in the third grade, studying with the Boys and Girls and not trying to have a intelligent conversation with this grown adult.
You still have not mentioned a thing about the quotes from or REFUTED a thing about what the scholars, historians and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read, which this information is right in front of you nose and you can't see that FuFu?
That is the characteristics of a electronic BUT. I had another colorful metaphor to call you BUT, I will stop here. LOL!!!
You still have not mentioned a thing about the quotes from or REFUTED a thing about what the scholars, historians and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read throughout history, which this information is right in front of you nose and you can't see that FuFu?
Let me pick a one of the people that I quoted from: Ibn Sina, also known by his Latinized name in Europe as Avicenna, was a Persian philosopher and polymath, born in 980 CE. Regarded as one of the most influential thinkers and writers of the Islamic Golden Age, Ibn Sina wrote extensively on philosophy of ethics and metaphysics, medicine, astronomy, alchemy, geology psychology and Islamic theology. He was also a logician, mathematician and a poet.
According to The great grammarian Ibn Sakeet gives us further clarification here: Ibn Sakeet tell us in his book Kitaab Al Al Faadh ( pages 152-153 ) that ”They say from the black men he is As Shadeed Al Udmah and from them is the Adlam and he is As Shadeed Al Udmah.
In your next REPLY, Talk to me about those things what the scholars, historians and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read throughout history, which this information is right in front of you nose and you can't see that FuFu? CAN YOU DO THAT?
I asked you to talk about Ibn Sina, who was a Persian Islamic philosopher and polymath, born in 980 CE. Regarded as one of the most influential thinkers and writers of the Islamic Golden Age, Ibn Sina wrote extensively on philosophy of ethics and metaphysics, medicine, astronomy, alchemy, geology psychology and Islamic theology. He was also a logician, mathematician and a poet and you have not touched that subject yet. WHY?
I asked you to talk about Ibn Sina, who was a Persian Islamic philosopher and polymath, born in 980 CE. Regarded as one of the most influential thinkers and writers of the Islamic Golden Age, Ibn Sina wrote extensively on philosophy of ethics and metaphysics, medicine, astronomy, alchemy, geology psychology and Islamic theology. He was also a logician, mathematician and a poet and you have not touched that subject yet. WHY?
YOUR REPLY: 1.….My understanding is that he WOOED the euroPEONS now in the same breath you said this 3.….My understanding is that FEW if any of the 2 BILLION Muslims 2018..EVER ..NEVER think of him...I DO NOT
MY COMMENT: Remember Little "r", we are talking about the influential thinkers and writers of the Islamic Golden Age here, which is a high point of Islamic thinking.
You have not REFUTED that Ibn Sina was a Persian Islamic philosopher and polymath, born in 980 CE. Regarded as one of the most influential thinkers and writers of the Islamic Golden Age, Ibn Sina wrote extensively on philosophy of ethics and metaphysics, medicine, astronomy, alchemy, geology psychology and Islamic theology.
MY QUESTION: Where do you see in that paragraph his involvement in Europe or modern Russia? Where is your evidence Little "r?"
Are Muslims in Europe? If so, do Muslims go to those colleges and universities? If so, the topic of a Persian Islamic philosopher and polymath, born in 980 CE. Regarded as one of the most influential thinkers and writers of the Islamic Golden Age, Ibn Sina wrote extensively on philosophy of ethics and metaphysics, medicine, astronomy, alchemy, geology psychology and Islamic theology would be apart of their curriculum?
I will stop here for a moment so you can catch up.
I asked you to talk about Ibn Sina and not what he is know by in Europe.
Ibn Sina was a Persian Islamic philosopher and polymath, born in 980 CE, was he NOT?
Was Ibn Sina Regarded as one of the most influential thinkers and writers of the Islamic Golden Age?
Did Ibn Sina wrote extensively on philosophy of ethics and metaphysics, medicine, astronomy, alchemy, geology psychology and Islamic theology. He was also a logician, mathematician and a poet and you have not touched that subject yet. WHY?
You Little Man "r"obert have not refuted a thing that I have said in your last reply. I have shared with you historical facts that have been documented by Islamic scholars and historians. I have provided the sources and references for you Little "r" obert or anyone to verify and check these FACTS for themselves, which you have not to this very day.
The topics covered are the original race and colour of the Arabs according to how the Arabs described themselves, descriptions of the companions of the Prophet Mohammed may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon them and those that followed them, descriptions of the non Arabs and their virtues, slavery, weak narrations and more.
Jaamea Bayaan Al-Ilm Chapter 1 Page 22 ”Whoever hides knowledge, it is as if he is an ignorant person.”
This is HOW THE ARABS USED COLOURS TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE AND THEMSELVES. Let us first talk about the description of "Adam." ADAM is a term that is very commonly used term in classical Arabic and one of the colors used to describe what the original Arabs looked like. I like to use reference points to back up my findings and not just run off at the mouth with cookie cutting BULL💩, one size fit all.
The term Adam ÂÏã is a word that most are oblivious to. Most only know that Adam is the father of mankind but they do not know that it is a term used for a specific colour and that the colour is a very dark colour.
Little man "r" you have not REFUTED any of this information yet and you are just speculating about the knowledge of Muslims here in Chicago as if Muslims here in Chicago and the rest of the world are damn fools and I am not buying that for one minute.
Now have you forgot the many Arab scholars that I HAVE QUOTED YOU on the topic of how they have described themselves and the various skin tone and complexion, souses and the word meanings in Arabic?
Most are unaware that Ali Ibn ali Taalib has been described as being Adaam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black in complexion). There are two main chains of narrations that describe him as jet black in complexion and strangely enough, they are the two that are narrated by most of the respected scholars and historians. The narrations can be found in just about every book and although one of them comes from a chain that has Al Waqdy in it , the scholars have still accepted it due to how it corroborates with the fact that the original Arabs were black and brown in all hues and the fact that is corroborates with the other hadith that is from a stronger chain:
Ansaab Al Ashraaf, Chapter 2 page 868 by Al Baladhaari
”Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Adam Shadeed Al-Udma (black-skinned)
Another narration in the same book states that Ali Ibn Abi Taalib was of a lighter hue of black . ” If you looked at him, you’d think that he was Adaam in complexion but if you came a little closer you’d see that he is actually Asmar in complexion leaning towards being Adaam in complexion.
However , the majority of the scholars are with the view that he was jet black
In Taarikh Al Islaam, page 227 , Imaam Al-Dhahabi narrates a hadith about Ali ibn Abi Taalib which describes him as Adam Shadeed Al-Udma (black-skinned)
Ibn Jawzi narrates Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Adam Shadeed Al-Udma (black-skinned) in his book Safwat Al-Safwa page 308.
Al-Suyuti narrates Ali ibn Abi Taalib as shadeed al-udma (black-skinned) here in Taarikh Al-Khulafaa on page 134 . ”Ali was a heavyset, bald, hairy man of average height which leaned toward shortness. He had a large stomach and a large beard which filled all that was between his shoulders. His beard was white as if it was cotton and he was a black-skinned man”
Ibn Abdel Barr narrates Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Shadeed Al Udma in his book Al Istiyaab fi Marafti Al Ashaab, pages 1110-1111
Ahmed ibn ‘Amru ibn Al-Dahhaak Abu Bakr Al-Shaibaani describes Ali ibn Abi Taalib (RAA) as shadeed al-udma (black-skinned) page 81
Mohamed ibn Talha Al-Shaafa’ie and Al-Safadi also describe Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Shadeed Al-Udma in their books.
Little "r" I have shown you where you can find the proof of these terms and all you have shown the People of Black In American is more mouth without any proof at all. You will not comment on the findings written in the Hadith.
For those of us on Black in America who don't know what the Hadith is, The Ḥadîth in Islam are the record of the words, actions, and the silent approval, of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Within Islam the authority of Ḥadîth as a source for religious law and moral guidance ranks second only to that of the Qur'an. Quranic verses enjoin Muslims to emulate Muhammad and obey his judgements, providing scriptural authority for ahadith. While the number of verses pertaining to law in the Quran is relatively few, ahadith give direction on everything from details of religious obligations, to the correct forms of salutations and the importance of benevolence to slaves. Thus the "great bulk" of the rules of Sharia are derived from ahadith, rather than the Qur'an.
A quick internet search on who was Ali ibn Abi (or Abu) Talib (Arabic: علي بن أبي طالب) (ca. 21 March 598 – 661) was an early Islamic leader. He is seen by the Sunni Muslims as the fourth and last of the Khulafā-i-Rāshidūn (rightly guided caliphs). Shi'a Muslims see him as the first imam and the first rightful caliph.
Talk about the content Little "r," Was Ali ibn Abi (or Abu) Talib (Arabic: علي بن أبي طالب) (ca. 21 March 598 – 661) was an early Islamic leader, in Islamic history?
Was Jaami' bayaan al-'Ilm wa Fadluhu - Ibn Abdil Barr (463H) an Excellent collection of the great Imam al-Hafidh Ibn Abdul Barr, identifying hadiths and author on knowledge and its blessing?
Was Al-Thaʿlabi (Abū Isḥāḳ Aḥmad ibn Muḥammad ibn Ibrāhīm al-Nīsābūrī al-Thaʿlabī أبو اسحاق أحمد بن محمد بن ابراهيم الثعلبي, d. d. November 1035) was an eleventh-century Islamic scholar of Persian origin?
Was Abū al-Faḍl ‘Abd al-Raḥmān ibn Abī Bakr ibn Muḥammad Jalāl al-Dīn al-Khuḍayrī al-Suyūṭī (Arabic: جلال الدين عبد الرحمن بن أبي بكر بن محمد الخضيري السيوطي; c. 1445–1505 AD) was an Egyptian religious scholar, juristic expert and teacher, and one of the most prolific writers of the Middle Ages whose works deal with Islamic theology?
I got more but I REFUTE your last REPLY Little "r" and I await your answers to those three questions that I asked you.
YOUR REPLY: Ali ibn Abu Talib Was the FIRST to accept The News from His Uncle and adopted Father;
Moḥamed ibn AbdAllaah ibn Abd AlMuttalib ibn Hashim ibn AbdManaf ibnQusai ibnKilab (sawm)
Now, since you finely have acknowledged Ali ibn Abu Talib was real in the history of Islam, and saw how other African Asians that knew him and describe his characteristics at that time in history. Don't you ever tell that LIE again that I have not HAVE given NO ARABIC scholarship ON THIS PAGE or ANYWHERE ELSE on Black In America "BIA" again or that African Asians don't describe themselves as colors, I have also provide the description of Ali ibn Abu Talib in Arabic and in English for your review and shades of Black again... Because I have provided you proof of the description of Ali ibn Abu Talib, from the people who knew him and the books and the page number of where that description of Ali ibn Abu Talib, can be found.
Now can you refute those FACTS robert powell?
ALI IBN ABI TALIB
Most are unaware that Ali Ibn ali Taalib has been described as being Adaam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black in complexion). There are two main chains of narrations that describe him as jet black in complexion and strangely enough, they are the two that are narrated by most of the respected scholars and historians. The narrations can be found in just about every book and although one of them comes from a chain that has Al Waqdy in it , the scholars have still accepted it due to how it corroborates with the fact that the original Arabs were black and brown in all hues and the fact that is corroborates with the other hadith that is from a stronger chain:
Ansaab Al Ashraaf, Chapter 2 page 868 by Al Baladhaari
”Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Adam Shadeed Al-Udma (black-skinned)
Another narration in the same book states that Ali Ibn Abi Taalib was of a lighter hue of black . ” If you looked at him, you’d think that he was Adaam in complexion but if you came a little closer you’d see that he is actually Asmar in complexion leaning towards being Adaam in complexion.
However , the majority of the scholars are with the view that he was jet black
In Taarikh Al Islaam, page 227 , Imaam Al-Dhahabi narrates a hadith about Ali ibn Abi Taalib which describes him as Adam Shadeed Al-Udma (black-skinned)
Ibn Jawzi narrates Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Adam Shadeed Al-Udma (black-skinned) in his book Safwat Al-Safwa page 308.
Al-Suyuti narrates Ali ibn Abi Taalib as shadeed al-udma (black-skinned) here in Taarikh Al-Khulafaa on page 134 . ”Ali was a heavyset, bald, hairy man of average height which leaned toward shortness. He had a large stomach and a large beard which filled all that was between his shoulders. His beard was white as if it was cotton and he was a black-skinned man”
Ibn Abdel Barr narrates Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Shadeed Al Udma in his book Al Istiyaab fi Marafti Al Ashaab, pages 1110-1111
Ahmed ibn ‘Amru ibn Al-Dahhaak Abu Bakr Al-Shaibaani describes Ali ibn Abi Taalib (RAA) as shadeed al-udma (black-skinned) page 81
Mohamed ibn Talha Al-Shaafa’ie and Al-Safadi also describe Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Shadeed Al-Udma in their books.
Little "r" I have shown you where you can find the proof of these terms and all you have shown the People of Black In American is more mouth without any proof at all. You will not comment on the findings written in the Hadith.
You have refuted nothing Little "r' minded person. All you did was to repeat the things that African Asian scholars and historians has describe of what they saw of ALI IBN ABI TALIB complexion, WOW!!!
The people of Black In America who is following this blog knows for a FACT when you robert powell start to name call, instead of dealing with the material you have nothing of value to say on the subject.
You have not once giving any proof that the description of ALI IBN ABI TALIB was false. That the African Asians historians and scholars that knew ALI IBN ABI TALIB description was accurate which they wrote in their own books of the way they saw ALI IBN ABI TALIB who was born (ca. 21 March 598 – 661) YOU DON'T REFUTE THAT AT ALL, NOW DO YOU?
This is where I get my information from robert and this is nothing I just pulled out of my back side. So, if that is all you got, then you have nothing and you know it for a FACT.
Back to the subject WAS JESUS BLACK? (1ST CENTURY IMAGES OF CHRIST/YESHUA) YES HE WAS BLACK.
I 'am talking about Yeshua who's name was a common alternative form of the name éÀäåÉùËÑòÇ ("Yehoshuah" – Joshua) in books of the Hebrew Bible and among Jews of the Second Temple period.
YOUR FIRST STATEMENT:1. Proven FACT..jesusIS NOT or EVER was a word/name or thought in the African Asian Monotheistic judeoIslaamic World
MY REPLY: But Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" was known throughout African Asian Monotheistic judeoIslaamic World and that is a FACT that you can't REFUTE.
YOUR SECOND STATEMENT: 2. Proven FACT..jesusIS latin……a LATIN word USED in 1 and 2018 derived from paganGreek Language...…..
MY REPLY: YES, that name Jesus was a Translation of the Hebrew name of Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" into Greek and that is a FACT.
YOUR THRID STATEMENT: 3. Proven FACT..No GENESIS scholar of Torah, 1 or 2018 KNOWS of a latinoJesus….NO shred of Belief for euroJesus Concept
MY REPLY: The scholar of Torah, of YESTERDAY AND TODAY have always recognized the name of Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" be to the original name of The Son of Great Elohim, who is one of three Divine Names by which the Creator is known in The African Asian world and beyond before THE WHITE WASHING of his name.
YOUR FORTH AND LAST STATEMENT: proven FACT..No African Asian Monotheistic People COLORIZED the Family of Adaam(as) before euroRACISTS Latino....
We went over this one and I know for a FACT that the description of ALI IBN ABI TALIB was accurate and well documented which they wrote in their own books of the way they saw ALI IBN ABI TALIB who was born (ca. 21 March 598 – 661) WHICH YOU HAVE NOT REFUTED THAT INFORMATION AT ALL, of his skin color was being Adaam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black in complexion). Now the people who wrote that description of ALI IBN ABI TALIB was NOT euroRACISTS Latino.... THEY WERE of African Asian Monotheistic Lineage, People who used the term Adaam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black in complexion)COLORIZED the Family of Adaam(as) to use your term, which you have not REFUTED to this day.
Litter "r" obert, You say that No African Asian Monotheistic People COLORIZED the Family of Adaam(as) before euroRACISTS Latino.... wasn't ALI IBN ABI TALIB apart of the Family of Adaam(as) before euroRACISTS Latino....?
NEWS FLASH Yeshua who's name was a common alternative form of the name éÀäåÉùËÑòÇ ("Yehoshuah" – Joshua) in later books of the Hebrew Bible and among Jews of the Second Temple period was BEFORE THAT.
My recommendation is for you to drop that LIE, now that you know better. I am talking about Yeshua, the same person you consciously call some LATINO JESUS.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? YES Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" the original name of The Son of Great Elohim, was A PERSON OF COLOR, like what is depicted in the (1ST CENTURY IMAGES OF CHRIST/YESHUA) that you see at the beginning of this Blog.
I 'am talking about Yeshua who's name was a common alternative form of the name éÀäåÉùËÑòÇ ("Yehoshuah" – Joshua) in books of the Hebrew Bible and among Jews of the Second Temple period and not the Greek translation.
I also see that you have no comments to my counter points to your statements as I took them on one by one. WOW!!! and you call me a Russian bot. LOL!!! that was the best laugh I had this morning and it is still early. LOL!!! WOW!!!
YOUR QUESTION: the Hebrew Bible......YOU MEAN ONLY the TORAH; home of Genesis..CORRECT?
MY REPLY: NO I Ment what I said ("Yehoshuah" – Joshua) in books of the Hebrew Bible and among Jews of the Second Temple period and not the Greek translation. The Name "Yehoshuah" was known by the first Christians of African Asian lineage.
Who were the first Christians?
The first Christians were Jews, likely farmers and fisherman who eeked out a living in the region of Galilee—where Jesus of Nazareth began his public career. According to the Gospel of Mark, the earliest gospel, they were a colorful lot:
YOUR QUESTION: SO the euroPEON bible with newTestament is NOT HEBREW......CORRECT?
MY REPLY: NO!!! The New Testament are still talking to and about the Black HEBREWS, the tribe of Judah in prophecy from the Old Testament being fore filled in The New Testament, Understood!!!
YOUR QUESTION: So "Yehoshuah" – Joshua is NOT latinJESUS…."GREEK translation".......CORRECT?
MY REPLY: NO!!! "Yehoshuah" – Joshua who was Black is the name, known throughout African Asia which was translated by the Greeks to Jesus.
Robert let me go a little more deeper on this subject for a moment: It is worth mentioning, that the Hebrews were just as literate, and just as artistic as the other Black civilizations around them. The reason that we have to depend on outside sources for pictures of them, is because Whites destroyed all that the Hebrews ever created. Even down to the very religious writings that they claim to worship by. That fact is that ALL Hebrew writings, even the SEPTUAGINT {the original Bible}, which was only roughly Hebrew (it was made for the Greek King of Egypt, Ptolemy II (Philadelphus) in 282-246 B.C.), has been destroyed. Everything except for the "Dead Sea Scrolls" which were found in 1947, in Qumran, a village situated about twenty miles east of Jerusalem. The Scrolls are under the joint custody of the Catholic Church and the Israelis. The translated contents of those Scrolls has never been made public, and probably never will be - no doubt the differences in teachings and facts would be irreconcilable.
Why wasn't the material in these pages destroyed? Because after it's fall, Assyria came under the control of the Persian Empire, which was itself a Black Empire. It then came under the control of Greeks, who were at that time, seeking to merge with the Black Persians, not in denying that they were Black people. Then Assyria again came under Persian control, and then finally under the control of the original Black Arabs. So at the time when Whites were destroying vestiges of Black history, they had no access to the Assyrian artifacts.
Now what we do know is this, The Egyptian artifacts, of which there are many, were mostly recovered in modern times, when Whites rather than simply destroy, instead modify artifacts; sometimes just by breaking the noses off, in order to make them look like White people, and then proudly display them as proof of the White mans greatness. Now can you REFUTE that?
I only hope that I have given you some insight into the questions that you have asked me today and you would STOP promoting that brainwashing of the leadership of the Caucasians. Peace Beyond to you robert powell.
Little "r", are you saying that Whites did not modify ancient artifacts; sometimes just by breaking the noses off, in order to make them look like White people did not happen?
With the noses of the statues mutilated for obvious reasons, we all know why (whites unfortunately were evil individuals in that era, they wanted power, control and wanted to "try" to keep hidden that Blacks are that of intellectual beings for us and the world).
FuFu, the statues are the proof the still show their true Black features and it does not take a rocket scientist to piece together what type of ethnic groups nose would fit. BLACK People are African Asian and Hebrews are African-Asian which also includes the bloodline from Adam to "Yehoshuah" was BLACK just like the people of Africa, which you have not REFUTED YET.
robert, The white-centric view is historically flawed and you know that for a FACT. The assumption that Jesus was white deserves far more skepticism than the proposal that he was black.
It is far more likely, both geographically and genetically, that Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" was black rather than white. That is the blunt scientific truth. But why do science and reason have to jolt us into this reality? Shouldn't our religion's thirst for truth and love for all people naturally guide us away from these flawed Caucasian-centric assumptions of our messiah? Shouldn't we be the ones fighting racism?
1. Just as the sons and those that Learned the language of The Words of the Creator of Adaam(as)….Hebrew/Arabic
told the oldeMan….Elijah....the 3rd grade mind of American slave paganChristian theology.
...STOP IT
MY REPLY: STOP WHAT? Identifying with The Nation of Islam. What people do you Identify with robert?
2. They told him that even if that latinoJesus, COLORED'whiteBlackRedYellow' junk is valid SHOW us, in the Earth that
there are people of tribes in 2000-2019 that practice and have a 1000+ year History of that COLORED belief.
....He could not so he was hastened to his place of judgement
MY REPLY: I can and that Tribe is called "The Tribe of Judah" which you have not yet REFUTED.
3. I WILL ALWAYS win a debate with you BECAUSE
……..you cannot Read any Hebrew TORAH.. SO YOU HAVE NO IDEA what Torah and the Creator of Adaam(as) teaches
……..you cannot Show the world that there are a tribe, a group with a history of your FALSE RACIST nonsense
MY REPLY: Hears what I do know of the TORAH which is means "to guide/teach" I also know that the Torah starts from the beginning of God's creating the world, through the beginnings of the people of Israel, their descent into Egypt, and the giving of the Torah at biblical Mount Sinai. It ends with the death of Moses, just before the people of Israel cross to the promised land of Canaan. Now Little "r" can you REFUTE what I just said to you?
4. your belief was FALSE, Racist and nonsense in 1492...1776...1864 and still Deception in 2018-19
You say that my belief was FALSE, Racist and nonsense in 1492...1776...1864 and still Deception in 2018-19. At one time early in my life, I may have thought that Jesus was White like you do now but that has changed, YESHUA was BLACK and his name was known throughout African - Asia as Yeshua in Hebrew is a verbal derivative from "to rescue", "to deliver". Among the Jews of the Second Temple Period, the Biblical Aramaic/Hebrew name Yeshua‘ was common.
Why can't you answer the simplest of my questions Little "r" man?
I made this statement to you: It is far more likely, both geographically and genetically, that Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" was black rather than white, That is the blunt scientific truth which you can't REFUTE now can you?
THEN I ASKED THIS QUESTION: But why do science and reason have to jolt us into this reality? WHY?
THEN I ASKED YOU: Shouldn't our religion's thirst for truth and love for all people naturally guide us away from these flawed Caucasian-centric assumptions of our messiah?
AND MY LAST QUESTION WAS: Shouldn't we be the ones fighting racism? Now if you feel that you are fighting racism, then how?
Why can't you answer the simplest of my questions Little "r" man?
I made this statement to you: It is far more likely, both geographically and genetically, that Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" was black rather than white, That is the blunt scientific truth which you can't REFUTE now can you?
THEN I ASKED THIS QUESTION: But why do science and reason have to jolt us into this reality? WHY?
THEN I ASKED YOU: Shouldn't our religion's thirst for truth and love for all people naturally guide us away from these flawed Caucasian-centric assumptions of our messiah?
AND MY LAST QUESTION WAS: Shouldn't we be the ones fighting racism? Now if you feel that you are fighting racism, then how?
Why can't you answer the simplest of my questions Little "r" man?
I made this statement to you: It is far more likely, both geographically and genetically, that Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" was black rather than white, That is the blunt scientific truth which you can't REFUTE now can you?
Little "r"obert, in my question to you point to the people on Black In America where I asked you about this:
…...In the Hebrew/Arabic languages....of Africa Asia....words are written RIGHT to LEFT…..AND
…...In the Hebrew/Arabic languages....of Africa Asia....there is NO... y e s h u d a ETAL.. in their Alphabets
….."Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" ….IF ANYTHING....are english/latino TRANSLITERATIONS....made up by sound.....
….."Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" ….DO NOT or EVER have represented AfricanAsian Monotheistic, Scholarship or Science
Here's what I asked you FuFu: I made this statement to you: "It is far more likely, both geographically and genetically, that Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" was black rather than white, That is the blunt scientific truth which you can't REFUTE now can you?"
Just direct your attention on what I asked you, Thank You.
No you did not answer the question Professor Smocky!!!
YOUR STATEMENT : COLORED folks were MADE UP by EVIL euroPEON barbaric paganChristians ….. 1000+ years ago
MY REPLY: It is far more likely, both geographically and genetically, that Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" was black rather than white, That is the blunt scientific truth which you can't REFUTE now can you?"
Point out to us in my paragraph, where you see where I asked you who COLORED folks were MADE UP by? or how many years ago that was or asked you about a African Asian Monotheistic Hadeeth of the judeoIslaamic BELIEVERS?
Take a look at this paragraph again, MY QUESTION IS: "It is far more likely, both geographically and genetically, that Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" was black rather than white, That is the blunt scientific truth which you can't REFUTE now can you SMOCKY?"
Professor Smocky the name YESHUA is used in this blog because Yeshua dates back to the Hebrew Old Testament and not a term out of the 1950's and can be found Thousands of years, prior to that time. So you can STOP THAT BS LYING in it's tracks, NOW.
Yeshua is of a Masculine gender, used by the Biblical Hebrew, Ancient Aramaic people Contracted form of Yehoshu'a (see JOSHUA) used in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah in the Hebrew Old Testament. The form was also used in Aramaic, and was most likely the name represented by Greek Iesous (see JESUS) in the New Testament.
The name Yeshua was used way before some slaverAmericana 1492-1864-1964 or COLONIZATION of racistlyIgnorant euroPaganChristians….. came to be known as a country, you MAROON.
The name Yeshua is known all throughout the first century. Now here's the LIE, Every biblical figure in church imagery, movies, paintings, is always portrayed as white, even though the region where Christ came from was a region where the people had colour. There were never no white people in Egypt, Babylon or Palestine (Modern day occupation by Israel) in those days. In those regions, the people were of colour BROWN and BLACK people.
One of the great tragedies has been, that over the last 400 years, do you understand me Little "r" over the last 400 years, Europeans and white Americans have created an ideology of white supremacy and they have in the process taken the sacred images and made them white and have re-cast black into a negative image which you are willing the promote daily.
Now with that said, you still have not answered my question: "It is far more likely, both geographically and genetically, that Yeshua or "Yehoshuah" was black rather than white, That is the blunt scientific truth which you can't REFUTE now can you SMOCKY?"
You have not spoken about the geographical or the genetical make up of the people in the area yet, WHY SMOCKEY?
Do you believe that the original people from The Tribe of Judah was White?
YOUR COMMENT: deacon OR russianBot words LIKE....Little "r"; SMOCKY; Yehoshu'a (see JOSHUA) are LESS than 1000 years old.....
AND
MY REPLY: I use words LIKE....Little "r"; SMOCKY; to describe you PROFESSOR SMOCKY who is less than a 1000 years old. Contracted form of Yehoshu'a (see JOSHUA) used in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah in the Hebrew Old Testament which is more then 2000 years old. The form was also used in Aramaic, and was most likely the name represented by Greek Iesous (see JESUS) in the New Testament. This means it was probably the real name of Jesus.
YOUR STATEMENT: ……..NO people, NONE in Africa Asian WERE referred to, selfIdentified as COLORED"whiteBlackRedYellow".....!
MY REPLY: WAS ALI IBN ABI TALIB A AFRICAN ASIAN PROFESSOR SMOCKEY? ARE THESE NOT DECRIBTIONS OF WHAT ALI IBN ABI TALIB WAS DISCRIBE AS: (JET BLACK IN COMPLEXION)
Most are unaware that Ali Ibn ali Taalib has been described as being Adaam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black in complexion). There are two main chains of narrations that describe him as jet black in complexion and strangely enough, they are the two that are narrated by most of the respected scholars and historians. The narrations can be found in just about every book and although one of them comes from a chain that has Al Waqdy in it , the scholars have still accepted it due to how it corroborates with the fact that the original Arabs were black and brown in all hues and the fact that is corroborates with the other hadith that is from a stronger chain:
Was this also written down in African Asian books, by ancient African Asian historians and scholars for the future to read? If the answers is YES, then why do you deny the description of ancient Black African Asian people of history?
MY REPLY: WAS ALI IBN ABI TALIB A AFRICAN ASIAN PROFESSOR SMOCKEY?
ARE THESE NOT DECRIBTIONS OF WHAT ALI IBN ABI TALIB WAS DISCRIBE AS: (JET BLACK IN COMPLEXION)
Most are unaware that Ali Ibn ali Taalib has been described as being Adaam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black in complexion). There are two main chains of narrations that describe him as jet black in complexion and strangely enough, they are the two that are narrated by most of the respected scholars and historians. The narrations can be found in just about every book and although one of them comes from a chain that has Al Waqdy in it , the scholars have still accepted it due to how it corroborates with the fact that the original Arabs were black and brown in all hues and the fact that is corroborates with the other hadith that is from a stronger chain:
Was this also written down in African Asian books, by ancient African Asian historians and scholars for the future to read? If the answers is YES, then why do you deny the description of ancient Black African Asian people of history?
It is about time: YES….Ali ibnAbu Taalib(raa) is an IMPORTANT part of the History, Scholarship and Thought of Africa Asia...….
FACT that the description of ALI IBN ABI TALIB was accurate and well documented which they wrote in their own books of the way they saw ALI IBN ABI TALIB who was born (ca. 21 March 598 – 661) WHICH YOU HAVE NOT REFUTED THAT INFORMATION AT ALL, of his skin color was being Adaam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black in complexion). Now the people who wrote that description of ALI IBN ABI TALIB was NOT euroRACISTS Latino.... THEY WERE of African Asian Monotheistic Lineage, People who used the term Adaam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black in complexion)COLORIZED the Family of Adaam(as) to use your term, which you have not REFUTED to this day.
Hey Little "r"obert, there you go again. Now that we have established that ALI IBN ABI TALIB WAS A AFRICAN ASIAN You have said nothing or REFUTED a thing about what the scholars and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read, now have you?
I have provided that African Asian scholars, the title of their books, what they had to say and the page number, where their statement on the complexation, can be found because I know that my findings is not about you and that is the main reason why I don't attempt to try to harm or destroy your reputation of; to disgrace; especially, to speak evil of maliciously; to dishonor you. You are not the mission of this blog but the truth is.
Now if you disagree with the what African Asian scholars has to say on the skin complexion of ADAM, Musa, or the lineage of Mohammed family tree, then it is you who needs to be in the third grade, studying with the Boys and Girls and not trying to have a intelligent conversation with this grown adult.
DEACON is a believer of euroPSYCHOTIC Racist NONSENSE
DEACON is a believer of COLORED'folks' thousands of years ago speaking English to "splain' COLORED'whiteSupremacy'
…..STOP your attacks on AlIslaam….and the Truth of African Asian judeoIslaamic Scholarship......LIKE
****************************************************************************** "...Boys and Girls and not trying to have a intelligent conversation with this grown adult. "
Wednesday, January 2nd 2019 at 10:28PM Deacon Ron Gray
Would you look at this BULL💩 In one breath you post this number .2,222,222,223 TIMES>…… you quote this number and in your very next reply you quote another number AGAIN.....for the 2,555,555,555th time. How in the world do any creditable person believe anything you say, when you LIE like this and you don't have too use LIES to state your case at all?
That is because your logic is flawed and your programing is unsound · defective · faulty · distorted · inaccurate · incorrect · erroneous · imprecise · fallacious · wrong · impaired · weak · invalid. You can't answer a direct question like: Hey Little "r"obert, there you go again. Now that we have established that ALI IBN ABI TALIB WAS A AFRICAN ASIAN You have said nothing or REFUTED a thing about what the scholars and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read, now have you?
I have provided that African Asian scholars, the title of their books, what they had to say and the page number, where their statement on the complexation, can be found because I know that my findings is not about you and that is the main reason why I don't attempt to try to harm or destroy your reputation of; to disgrace; especially, to speak evil of maliciously; to dishonor you. You are not the mission of this blog but the truth is.
Now if you disagree with the what African Asian scholars has to say on the skin complexion of ADAM, Musa, or the lineage of Mohammed family tree, then it is you who need to reevaluate your outlook of African Asian history and what have been documented about the description of Ali ibnAbu Taleeb who followed Mohamed(sawn) to the Letter of all judeoIslaamic Scholarship.
Poor robert powell, you have no creditable here, at all WOW!!!
And you still have not answered this question: Now that we have established that ALI IBN ABI TALIB WAS A AFRICAN ASIAN You have said nothing or REFUTED a thing about what the scholars and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read, now have you?
I have provided that African Asian scholars, the title of their books, what they had to say and the page number, where their statement on the complexation, can be found because I know that my findings is not about you and that is the main reason why I don't attempt to try to harm or destroy your reputation of; to disgrace; especially, to speak evil of maliciously; to dishonor you. You are not the mission of this blog but the truth is.
Now if you disagree with the what African Asian scholars has to say on the skin complexion of ADAM, Musa, or the lineage of Mohammed family tree, then it is you who need to reevaluate your outlook of African Asian history and what have been documented about the description of Ali ibnAbu Taleeb who followed Mohamed(sawn) to the Letter of all judeoIslaamic Scholarship.
Poor robert powell, you have no creditability here, at all WOW!!!
Now why can't you answer my question robert powell?
THIS IS NO ANSWER TO MY QUESTION: I, Robert Powell, an Arabic Reader Speaker, English Reader Speaker....and Little Hebrew reader/speaker.....
MY REPLY: You language stills has nothing to do with you REFUTING a thing about what the scholars and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read, now have you?
YOUR COMMENT: Have studied for over 50+ years the African Asian Monotheistic judeoIslaamic Hadeeth...…
MY REPLY: I am talking about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read, now have you?
YOUR COMMENT": Have Lived on 3 continents for 50+ years with MUSLIMS that practice-study the judeoIslaamic Hadeeth for 2000+YEARS
MY REPLY: I have lived in 7 counties in my life time but that has nothing to do with ALI IBN ABI TALIB WAS A AFRICAN ASIAN You have said nothing or REFUTED a thing about what the scholars and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read, now have you?
YOUR COMMENT: I DO NOT need CREDIT to KNOW that 'blackWhite' Racism ONLY has a Definition in euroPEON paganChristianity
MY REPLY: Can you point out anywhere in this paragraph where I am talking about euroPEON paganChristianity?
And you still have not answered this question: Now that we have established that ALI IBN ABI TALIB WAS A AFRICAN ASIAN You have said nothing or REFUTED a thing about what the scholars and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read, now have you?
I have provided that African Asian scholars, the title of their books, what they had to say and the page number, where their statement on the complexation, can be found because I know that my findings is not about you and that is the main reason why I don't attempt to try to harm or destroy your reputation of; to disgrace; especially, to speak evil of maliciously; to dishonor you. You are not the mission of this blog but the truth is.
WHERE IS IT SMOCKEY?
Now if you disagree with the what African Asian scholars has to say on the skin complexion of ADAM, Musa, or the lineage of Mohammed family tree, then it is you who need to reevaluate your outlook of African Asian history and what have been documented about the description of Ali ibnAbu Taleeb who followed Mohamed(sawn) to the Letter of all judeoIslaamic Scholarship.
Poor robert powell, you have no creditability here, at all WOW!!!
Now why can't you answer any my questions robert powell?
…...Non African Asian Language 'reader' of Hebrew or Arabic …..COLORED'blackHebrewIsraelite'
Has PRESENTED no, NONE, no shred of Scholarship from Torah, AlQur'aan in HEBREW or ARABIC or from
Hadeeth of Ibraheem-Hadeeth of Nuh-Hadeeth of Musa(as) - Hadeeth of Iesa ibnMaryam or Mohamed(sawm) that mentions....
1. COLORING the Family of Adaam(as) as paganChristians in Europe did in slaveryColonization…….
2. COLORED'whiteBlack HEBREW'
3. 'jet black complexions'
4. You have NOT even shown that there are COLORED'whiteBlackRedYellowHebrewIsraelites' even in cartoonVideos….!
.....STOP your enabling of Lunacy.....STOP your Love of RACIST Nonsense and LEARN something.....
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Friday, January 4th 2019 at 6:23PM
robert powell
And you still have not answered this question: Now that we have established that ALI IBN ABI TALIB WAS A AFRICAN ASIAN You have said nothing or REFUTED a thing about what the scholars and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read, now have you?
I have provided that African Asian scholars, the title of their books, what they had to say and the page number, where their statement on the complexation, can be found because I know that my findings is not about you and that is the main reason why I don't attempt to try to harm or destroy your reputation of; to disgrace; especially, to speak evil of maliciously; to dishonor you. You are not the mission of this blog but the truth is. WOW!!!
Are you saying that Ali ibn Abi Taalib, was NOT a heavyset, bald, hairy man of average height which leaned toward shortness. He had a large stomach and a large beard which filled all that was between his shoulders. His beard was white as if it was cotton and he was a shadid al-udma (black-skinned) man?
Is there ever a time that we should be silent about the truth? Why the silence? If it's proven beyond a shadow of doubt that the Arabs of the past described the pure Arabs as black-skinned and kinky-haired, is there any reason we should today allow the pure Arabs to be described any way other than the way they described themselves?
This question is still unanswered, WHY?: Now that we have established that ALI IBN ABI TALIB WAS A AFRICAN ASIAN You have said nothing or REFUTED a thing about what the scholars and authors of Islamic language had to say about the description of the different in complexion of what Muslims called themselves which have been documented in books for the world to read, now have you?
1.The great scholar Al Thaa’labi said in his book Fiqqatu Luggha wa Al Arabiyyah,Page 348. ”The colour Adam is black(ness) in humans and white(ness)in camels.”
As you can see, the colour Aadam(آدم ) by itself is very dark and not a light colour which most English speaking translators try to claim without any evidence.
2. Another great scholar called Ibn Sayaadah said, when explaining the meaning of the word Asham(اسحم ) in his book:
Al Hakm Al Muheet Al A’dam , Chapter 3, page 215
‘Al Asham wa Al Suhaam wa Al Sahmah means black(ness) and every black is Asham…. And the two suhaams are shadeed Al Udmah.
Are you REFUTING that fact that Al-Thaʿlabi (Abū Isḥāḳ Aḥmad ibn Muḥammad ibn Ibrāhīm al-Nīsābūrī al-Thaʿlabī أبو اسحاق أحمد بن محمد بن ابراهيم الثعلبي, d. d. November 1035) was an eleventh-century Islamic scholar of Persian origin?
Don't try that BULL 💩Little "r"obert "SMOCKEY" Little "p"owell, If that all you got when I just put my FOOT of truth on your neck that is so simple to answer if you understood who this great scholar called Ibn Sayaadah said, when explaining the meaning of the word Asham(اسحم ) in his book:
Al Hakm Al Muheet Al A’dam , Chapter 3, page 215
Where you can Quote his words
‘Al Asham wa Al Suhaam wa Al Sahmah means black(ness) and every black is Asham…. And the two suhaams are shadeed Al Udmah.
You can touch this FACT because it is the TRUTH and you don't want to admitted it so, you run and bring up some "blackScientists" when the point is so clear to everyone that in my last reply to you is about:
Let us look at the colour Adam (ادم) first:
1.The great scholar Al Thaa’labi said in his book Fiqqatu Luggha wa Al Arabiyyah,Page 348. ”The colour Adam is black(ness) in humans and white(ness)in camels.”
As you can see, the colour Aadam(آدم ) by itself is very dark and not a light colour which most English speaking translators try to claim without any evidence.
2. Another great scholar called Ibn Sayaadah said, when explaining the meaning of the word Asham(اسحم ) in his book:
Al Hakm Al Muheet Al A’dam , Chapter 3, page 215
‘Al Asham wa Al Suhaam wa Al Sahmah means black(ness) and every black is Asham…. And the two suhaams are shadeed Al Udmah.
Are you REFUTING that fact that Al-Thaʿlabi (Abū Isḥāḳ Aḥmad ibn Muḥammad ibn Ibrāhīm al-Nīsābūrī al-Thaʿlabī أبو اسحاق أحمد بن محمد بن ابراهيم الثعلبي, d. d. November 1035) was an eleventh-century Islamic scholar of Persian origin?
NOW are you Refuting That Fact or NOT?
Sunday, January 6th 2019 at 7:55PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
OVER and OVER again....off your subject NONSENSE...….
…….You live in Chicago....what does the neoNOI Racistly Ignorant Fairy Tale, Fantasy LYIN,"greatScholar" writers write?
…I DO NOT BELIEVE those False, Misconceptions of AlIslaam by COLORED'blackMen of COLORED'whiteSupremacy'
AND
…I DO NOT BELIEVE those False, Misconceptions of AlIslaam COLORED'blackHebrewIsraelite', 'PASTE-researched' from
English-euroPEON latinoJesus antiAfrican Asian Morons
…..I REFUTE all FANTASY chiraqMorons that COULD just ask any of the 500,000 Muslims in Chicago if they EVER, HEARD
of these "deaconRacist scholars" …. "scholars" of englishPersian origin that DO NOT KNOW AlISLAAM or ARABIC
WELL ARE YOU REFUTING THAT FACT OF: Al Asham wa Al Suhaam wa Al Sahmah means black(ness) and every black is Asham…. And the two suhaams are shadeed Al Udmah.
Are you REFUTING that fact that Al-Thaʿlabi (Abū Isḥāḳ Aḥmad ibn Muḥammad ibn Ibrāhīm al-Nīsābūrī al-Thaʿlabī أبو اسحاق أحمد بن محمد بن ابراهيم الثعلبي, d. d. November 1035) was an eleventh-century Islamic scholar of Persian origin?
NOW are you Refuting That Fact or NOT? Little "r"obert?
Little "r" obert, I am not asking you about REFUTING any UNEDUCATED, non African Asian Monotheistic thinker, named RonGray, that cannot even speak, read or write Hebrew of Torah, that is where your little twitted mind goes when under direct pressure, PROFESSOR SMOCKEY, that is not the focus point of this question here and you know it as you continue to use the tools of heathens pagan · infidel · idolater · idolatress · unbeliever · nonbeliever · disbeliever · atheist · nontheist · agnostic · sceptic · heretic · paynim · nullifidian type thinking.
Now if you want to move on with this conversation answer my direct question to you.
WELL ARE YOU REFUTING THAT FACT OF: Al Asham wa Al Suhaam wa Al Sahmah means black(ness) and every black is Asham…. And the two suhaams are shadeed Al Udmah.
Are you REFUTING that fact that Al-Thaʿlabi (Abū Isḥāḳ Aḥmad ibn Muḥammad ibn Ibrāhīm al-Nīsābūrī al-Thaʿlabī أبو اسحاق أحمد بن محمد بن ابراهيم الثعلبي, d. d. November 1035) was an eleventh-century Islamic scholar of Persian origin?
There you go again robert powell, that is your choice to keep me the main character and the power in your spot light is the power you give to me to rule over you. Refuting me is not the question and the point of this blog but the truth is and that is something that you have been running like HELL from since the beginning of this blog.
Now you are calling ALI IBN ABI TALIB some FANTASY after we both agreed that ALI IBN ABI TALIB WAS A AFRICAN ASIAN.
Important Figures: Ali ibn Abi Talib, he was one figure who has occupied a central role in the history of Islam almost from its beginnings is Ali. Like the 3 caliphs before him, Ali left an imprint on the faith that can be seen until the present day. While Ali himself was not controversial and is held in high esteem by all Muslims, he is central to the question of succession after the Prophet’s death and the eventual Sunni/Shia division that resulted.
Now you FAKE NEWS want to turn your back on the description Ali ibn Abi Talib, WOW!!!!
…..If you want me to go off subject ANSWER one QUESTION first…..
Did you author this blag in 2017.... ".... AS A PSY OP! AKA PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS …....."...????
MY ANSWER: "NO!"
YOUR COMMENT: …...I REFUTE an UNEDUCATED, non African Asian Monotheistic thinker, RonGray, that cannot even speak, read or
write African Asian Monotheistic Hebrew of Torah...……..
.....Let alone some FANTASY made up "suhaams of eleventh century Persian origin"....englishArabic OR Persian?
I REFUTE your FANTASY, holyGhost antiAfrican Asian racist attacks...…..
Tuesday, January 8th 2019 at 6:17PM robert powell | delete | block member
MY REPLY: If Moḥamed ibn AbdAllaah ibn Abd AlMuttalib ibn Hashim ibn AbdManaf ibnQusai ibnKilab (sawm) AND was throughout
his LIFETIME, the GREATEST defender and Believer of AlIslaam, the words of the Creator of AlIslaam AND the
GREATEST Believer of Moḥamed ibn AbdAllaah ibn Abd AlMuttalib ibn Hashim ibn AbdManaf ibnQusai ibnKilab (sawm)
……..OK.....?
IF Ali ibn Abu Talib was throughout his LIFETIME, was the GREATEST defender and Believer of AlIslaam, the words of the Creator of AlIslaam, then WHY did you call Ali ibn Abu Talib some FANTASY made up "suhaams of eleventh century Persian origin"....englishArabic OR Persian?
I REFUTE your FANTASY, holyGhost antiAfrican Asian racist attacks...…..
Tuesday, January 8th 2019 at 6:17PM robert powell | delete | block member
IF Ali ibn Abu Talib was throughout his LIFETIME, was the GREATEST defender and Believer of AlIslaam, the words of the Creator of AlIslaam, then WHY did you call Ali ibn Abu Talib some FANTASY made up "suhaams of eleventh century Persian origin"....englishArabic OR Persian? WHY?
Answer that direct question and leave that other BULL💩 out and direct your answer to my question, robert powell, can you focus in and answer that question, can you do that?
…..If you want me to go off subject ANSWER one QUESTION first…..
Did you author this blag in 2017.... ".... AS A PSY OP! AKA PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS …....."...????
MY ANSWER: "NO!" ********************************************************************************************************************************************************
F Ali ibn Abu Talib was throughout his LIFETIME, was the GREATEST defender and Believer of AlIslaam, the words of the Creator of AlIslaam, then WHY did you call Ali ibn Abu Talib some FANTASY made up "suhaams of eleventh century Persian origin"....englishArabic OR Persian? WHY robert powell ?
Answer that direct question and leave that other BULL💩 out and direct your answer to my question, robert powell, can you focus in and answer that question, can you do that?
I know that this request was to hard for you to follow because your thinking is full of BULL💩 and you think that is the way you answer people that challenge you to think.
BOY!!! You are not man enough to answer this question: "IF Ali ibn Abu Talib was throughout his LIFETIME, was the GREATEST defender and Believer of AlIslaam, the words of the Creator of AlIslaam, then WHY did you call Ali ibn Abu Talib some FANTASY made up "suhaams of eleventh century Persian origin"....englishArabic OR Persian? WHY robert powell ?
The Ali ibn Abu Talib I am talking about was Ali ibn Abi (or Abu) Talib (Arabic: Úáí Èä ÃÈí ØÇáÈ) (ca. 21 March 598 – 661) was an early Islamic leader.
Most are unaware that Ali Ibn ali Taalib has been described as being Adaam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black in complexion). There are two main chains of narrations that describe him as jet black in complexion and strangely enough, they are the two that are narrated by most of the respected scholars and historians. The narrations can be found in just about every book and although one of them comes from a chain that has Al Waqdy in it , the scholars have still accepted it due to how it corroborates with the fact that the original Arabs were black and brown in all hues and the fact that is corroborates with the other hadith that is from a stronger chain: k
Ansaab Al Ashraaf, Chapter 2 page 868 by Al Baladhaari
”Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Adam Shadeed Al-Udma (black-skinned)
Another narration in the same book states that Ali Ibn Abi Taalib was of a lighter hue of black . ” If you looked at him, you’d think that he was Adaam in complexion but if you came a little closer you’d see that he is actually Asmar in complexion leaning towards being Adaam in complexion.
However , the majority of the scholars are with the view that he was jet black ,\
In Taarikh Al Islaam, page 227 , Imaam Al-Dhahabi narrates a hadith about Ali ibn Abi Taalib which describes him as Adam Shadeed Al-Udma (black-skinned)
k Ibn Jawzi narrates Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Adam Shadeed Al-Udma (black-skinned) in his book Safwat Al-Safwa page 308. j
Al-Suyuti narrates Ali ibn Abi Taalib as shadeed al-udma (black-skinned) here in Taarikh Al-Khulafaa on page 134 . ”Ali was a heavyset, bald, hairy man of average height which leaned toward shortness. He had a large stomach and a large beard which filled all that was between his shoulders. His beard was white as if it was cotton and he was a black-skinned man”
You are just pulling things out of your as* again. I never told you I got this information about Ali Ibn ali Talab from a photo.
Little "r" Ali Ibn ali Taalib has been described as being Adaam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black in complexion). There are two main chains of narrations that describe him as jet black in complexion and strangely enough, they are the two that are narrated by most of the respected scholars and historians. The narrations can be found in just about every book and although one of them comes from a chain that has Al Waqdy in it , the scholars have still accepted it due to how it corroborates with the fact that the original Arabs were black and brown in all hues and the fact that is corroborates with the other hadith that is from a stronger chain, from a Photograph or picture, you good Muslim so, STOP THAT LIE NOW!!!
I QUOTED: Ansaab Al Ashraaf, Chapter 2 page 868 by Al Baladhaari
”Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Adam Shadeed Al-Udma (black-skinned)
Another narration in the same book states that Ali Ibn Abi Taalib was of a lighter hue of black . ” If you looked at him, you’d think that he was Adaam in complexion but if you came a little closer you’d see that he is actually Asmar in complexion leaning towards being Adaam in complexion.
You got to be the smartest kid in your class room when you wrote this: THERE are NONE, NEVER have been, ANY scholars of AlIslaam, ANY Muslims of 2019----or 7th or 11th Century that EVER wrote, photographed or observed a RACIST deaconGray….
MY REPLY: Their was no Deacon Gray, or robert powell or Photography in 7th or 11th Century but their was scholars of AlIslaam, Here just are few of them:
Abd al-Hamid al-Katib (?–756), founder of Arabic prose along with fellow Persian Ibn Muqaffa Abu al-Qasim Muqane'i:(10th century) physician Abu Dawood (c. 817–889), Islamic scholar Abu Hanifa (699–767), Islamic scholar Abu Said Gorgani (9th century)
Brethren of Purity Bahmanyâr, philosopher Al-Baghawi (c. 1041–1122), Islamic scholar Bahai, Sheikh (1547–1621), poet, mathematician, astronomer, engineer, designer, faghih (religious scientist), and architect Al-Baladhuri (?–892), historian Abu Maʿshar (787–886), a.k.a. Albumasar, astrologer Abu Zayd al-Balkhi (850–934), geographer and mathematician
Abu Hanifa Dinawari (815–896), polymath Ibn Qutaybah (828–885), historian
Farghani (?–880), a.k.a. Alfraganus, astronomer Al-Farabi (872–950) (Al-Farabi, Pharabius), philosopher Fazari, Ibrahim (?–777), mathematician and astronomer Fazari, Mohammad (?–796), mathematician and astronomer
Ibn Khordadbeh (c. 820–912), geographer Ibn Rustah (9th century), explorer and geographer
You are a embarrassment for you to write HERE are NONE, NEVER have been, ANY scholars of AlIslaam, ANY Muslims of 2019----or 7th or 11th Century that EVER wrote,
photographed or observed a RACIST deaconGray….
"...the majority of the scholars are with the view that he was jet black …."
I have provided the names of Islamic scholars and their publications and the page number where their QUOTE can be found and all you can show is such BULL💩 as: THERE are NONE, NEVER have been, ANY scholars of AlIslaam, ANY Muslims of 2019----or 7th or 11th Century that EVER wrote, photographed or observed a RACIST deaconGray…. I 'am talking about the scholars who recorded the history of Islam and what they wrote about what they saw and you can't REFUTE none it, now can you PROFESSOR "SMOCKEY?"
You got to be the smartest kid in your class room when you wrote this: THERE are NONE, NEVER have been, ANY scholars of AlIslaam, ANY Muslims of 2019----or 7th or 11th Century that EVER wrote, photographed or observed a RACIST deaconGray….
MY REPLY: Their was no Deacon Gray, or robert powell or Photography in 7th or 11th Century but their was scholars of AlIslaam, Here just are few of them:
Abd al-Hamid al-Katib (?–756), founder of Arabic prose along with fellow Persian Ibn Muqaffa Abu al-Qasim Muqane'i:(10th century) physician Abu Dawood (c. 817–889), Islamic scholar Abu Hanifa (699–767), Islamic scholar Abu Said Gorgani (9th century)
Brethren of Purity Bahmanyâr, philosopher Al-Baghawi (c. 1041–1122), Islamic scholar Bahai, Sheikh (1547–1621), poet, mathematician, astronomer, engineer, designer, faghih (religious scientist), and architect Al-Baladhuri (?–892), historian Abu Maʿshar (787–886), a.k.a. Albumasar, astrologer Abu Zayd al-Balkhi (850–934), geographer and mathematician
Abu Hanifa Dinawari (815–896), polymath Ibn Qutaybah (828–885), historian
Farghani (?–880), a.k.a. Alfraganus, astronomer Al-Farabi (872–950) (Al-Farabi, Pharabius), philosopher Fazari, Ibrahim (?–777), mathematician and astronomer Fazari, Mohammad (?–796), mathematician and astronomer
Ibn Khordadbeh (c. 820–912), geographer Ibn Rustah (9th century), explorer and geographer
You are a embarrassment for you to write HERE are NONE, NEVER have been, ANY scholars of AlIslaam, ANY Muslims of 2019----or 7th or 11th Century that EVER wrote,
photographed or observed a RACIST deaconGray….
"...the majority of the scholars are with the view that he was jet black …."
I have provided the names of Islamic scholars and their publications and the page number where their QUOTE can be found and all you can show is such BULL💩 as: THERE are NONE, NEVER have been, ANY scholars of AlIslaam, ANY Muslims of 2019----or 7th or 11th Century that EVER wrote, photographed or observed a RACIST deaconGray…. I 'am talking about the scholars who recorded the history of Islam and what they wrote about what they saw and you can't REFUTE any of this rich Islamic history, now can you PROFESSOR "SMOCKEY?"