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Smoking Gun Nightmare: Trump Ally Now ‘Recalls’ Ukraine Bribery Plot, An Impeachable Offense | MSNBC (527 hits)

Smoking Gun Nightmare: Trump Ally Now ‘Recalls’ Ukraine Bribery Plot, An Impeachable Offense | MSNBC
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Wednesday, November 6th 2019 at 8:53PM
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Facing perjury pressure, Ambassador Gordon Sondland now "remembers" the Ukraine bribery plot, admitting a White House plan for bribery. Sondland, a Trump donor and loyalist, reversing his original testimony and now admitting it was a quid pro quo.


Wednesday, November 6th 2019 at 9:09PM
Deacon Ron Gray
This is very interesting.


Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 8:30AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Adam Schiff succeeded in flipping Sondland. I call this witness tampering.

Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 9:49AM
Steve Williams
This is from what I see that happen in this case.

U.S. Ambassador to the European Union made a significant change to his testimony to House impeachment investigators this week: He said he now remembers telling a top aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Ukraine would not receive U.S. military assistance until it committed to investigating the 2016 election and former Vice President Joe Biden, according to a person with knowledge of Sondland’s testimony.

Sondland’s latest testimony — stated in a three-page declaration to the House committees leading the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump — represents an update to the testimony he gave in October and contains significant new details. That includes a fuller accounting of the role he played in personally telling the Ukrainians they needed to cooperate with the demands of Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, if they wanted the aid money.

Is that the way you remember the Gordon Sondland story, Steve?




Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 10:14AM
Deacon Ron Gray
That's not the way I remember Sondland's testimony Ron. I do remember Sondland being accused of perjury after Alexander Vindman was deposed. Remember what happened to Michael Cohen.

Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 10:54AM
Steve Williams
That is the reason why Gordon Sondland story, changed. He see the handwriting on the wall because he realized that his actions was wrong and this cover-up needs to be STOPPED NOW!!!!

Steve, Here's What We Know Steve.

So far, all of the evidence pointing to Russiafs involvement in the Democratic hacks (DNC, DCCC, Podesta, et al.) comes from either private security firms (like CrowdStrike or FireEye) who sell cyber-defense services to other companies, or independent researchers, some with university affiliations and serious credentials, and some who are basically just Guys on Twitter. Although some of these private firms groups had proprietary access to DNC computers or files from them, much of the evidence has been drawn from publicly available data like the hacked emails and documents.

Some of the malware found on DNC computers is believed to be the same as that used by two hacking groups believed to be Russian intelligence units, codenamed APT (Advanced Persistent Threat) 28/Fancy Bear and APT 29/Cozy Bear by industry researchers who track them.

The attacker or attackers registered a deliberately misspelled domain name used for email phishing attacks against DNC employees, connected to an IP address associated with APT 28/Fancy Bear.

Malware found on the DNC computers was programmed to communicate with an IP address associated with APT 28/Fancy Bear.
Metadata in a file leaked by gGuccifer 2.0 shows it was modified by a user called, in cyrillic, gFelix Edmundovich,h a reference to the founder of a Soviet-era secret police force. Another document contained cyrillic metadata indicating it had been edited on a document with Russian language settings.

Peculiarities in a conversation with gGuccifer 2.0 that Motherboard published in June suggests he is not Romanian, as he originally claimed.

The DCLeaks.com domain was registered by a person using the same email service as the person who registered a misspelled domain used to send phishing emails to DNC employees.

Some of the phishing emails were sent using Yandex, a Moscow-based webmail provider.

A bit.ly link believed to have been used by APT 28/Fancy Bear in the past was also used against Podesta.



Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 11:16AM
Deacon Ron Gray
Ron, Sondland's testimony changed because he was threatened with perjury by Schiff. This is the same Adam Schiff that released Sondland's supposedly private testimony, so that Alexander Vindman would know what to say in his deposition, that would falsely contradict Sondland.

Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 11:36AM
Steve Williams
"Some of the malware found on DNC computers is believed to be the same as that used by two hacking groups believed to be Russian intelligence units." "Believed" WHY Ron? Show me the proof.

Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 11:40AM
Steve Williams
Did you see my reply: "So far, all of the evidence pointing to Russiafs involvement in the Democratic hacks (DNC, DCCC, Podesta, et al.) comes from either private security firms (like CrowdStrike or FireEye) who sell cyber-defense services to other companies, or independent researchers, some with university affiliations and serious credentials, and some who are basically just Guys on Twitter. Although some of these private firms groups had proprietary access to DNC computers or files from them, much of the evidence has been drawn from publicly available data like the hacked emails and documents."


Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 1:01PM
Deacon Ron Gray
The FBI had no business relying on Crowdstrike. It was their job to take possession of the server and examine it themselves. Because they didn't, the entire conclusion of 17 agencies as to who hacked the server is null and void. Barr will find out what really happened. There's no way you can stop him Ron.

Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 3:31PM
Steve Williams
Steve, do you know the names of all seventeen U. S. Investigative agencies involved in this probe since you happen to know what their business is?




Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 8:12PM
Deacon Ron Gray
No Ron, I haven't wasted my time to memorize the names of 17 agencies. I don't think we even need 17 agencies and the 17 agencies didn't do anything but fall into line behind Brennan and Comey.

Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 9:04PM
Steve Williams
Well then If you don’t know WTF you are talking about, then why in the world are you trying to convince yourself that is not the business of the intelligence community to be knowledgeable of such a thing as a cyber attack on our presidential elections?




Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 10:37PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Ron, show me the independent investigations of those other agencies. It doesn't exist. The only 2 agencies involved were FBI and CIA.

Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 11:34PM
Steve Williams
Good... Let us start with these two.

"What did those two U.S. Government Agencies say about who was behind the hacking of U.S. political organizations, including the Democratic National Committee’s servers, despite evidence to the contrary?"

This is want I found: Trump, Russia and the U.S. Election
https://www.factcheck.org/2016/12/trump-russia-u-s-election/

Friday, November 8th 2019 at 10:46AM
Deacon Ron Gray
"Malware programs used in the attacks were similar to past attacks by these same groups, as were the techniques and methods used to hide their electronic tracks."

That's not proof Ron. How do you know a Ukrainian or some other hacker didn't pretend to be Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear? We know the hacker pretended to be John Podesta right?

Friday, November 8th 2019 at 2:43PM
Steve Williams
Because of the failed IP address Steve, lead our team right to the doors of Russia according to the report. You do know what a IP address is don't you?




Friday, November 8th 2019 at 3:29PM
Deacon Ron Gray
All 16 government intelligence agencies and at least three private security firms have independently investigated the security breaches and concluded that the Russian government — in the words of the U.S. Intelligence Community — “directed” the hacking “to interfere with the US election process.”

Also

Joint Statement, Oct. 7: The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

Because of the failed IP address Steve, lead our team right to the doors of Russia according to the reports.


Do know what is a IP address?


Friday, November 8th 2019 at 3:37PM
Deacon Ron Gray
You really think that IP address was accidental Ron? Don't be a dupe.

Friday, November 8th 2019 at 5:21PM
Steve Williams
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Friday, November 8th 2019 at 5:32PM
Steve Williams
Let us get back to this information and topic. YOUR STAEMENT: You really think that IP address was accidental Ron? Don't be a dupe.


Yes I do, it is easy to do.

The Internet Research Agency, or IRA, is a St. Petersburg-based firm whose key executives have also been indicted by Mueller on charges of defrauding the United States.

The special counsel's office said the account used to publish the discovery materials was registered by a user with an IP address in Russia.

1. Steve The attacker or attackers registered a deliberately misspelled domain name used for email phishing attacks against DNC employees, connected to an IP address associated with APT 28/Fancy Bear.

2. Malware found on the DNC computers was programmed to communicate with an IP address associated with APT 28/Fancy Bear.

3. Metadata in a file leaked by gGuccifer 2.0 shows it was modified by a user called, in cyrillic, gFelix Edmundovich,h a reference to the founder of a Soviet-era secret police force. Another document contained cyrillic metadata indicating it had been edited on a document with Russian language settings.

4. Peculiarities in a conversation with gGuccifer 2.0 that Motherboard published in June suggests he is not Romanian, as he originally claimed.

5. The DCLeaks.com domain was registered by a person using the same email service as the person who registered a misspelled domain used to send phishing emails to DNC employees.

6. Some of the phishing emails were sent using Yandex, a Moscow-based webmail provider.


7. A bit.ly link believed to have been used by APT 28/Fancy Bear in the past was also used against Podesta.

In October, the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement blaming the Russian government for hacking the DNC. In it, they state their attribution plainly:

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.


Friday, November 8th 2019 at 8:07PM
Deacon Ron Gray
That's what I see Steve.


Friday, November 8th 2019 at 9:30PM
Deacon Ron Gray
That's wonderful Ron. Here's what I don't see.

1. I don't see where the FBI examined the server.
2. I don't see where the FBI took the server into evidence.

Friday, November 8th 2019 at 11:37PM
Steve Williams
Steve, then you have a home work-Assignment because that is not the topic here.



Saturday, November 9th 2019 at 9:03AM
Deacon Ron Gray
You brought it up Ron, on

Thursday, November 7th 2019 at 11:16AM
Deacon Ron Gray

Saturday, November 9th 2019 at 5:50PM
Steve Williams
WOW!!! I never told you that I was going to show you the FBI examined server or where the FBI took the server into evidence, Steve. Are you smoking that 💩 again?

What I' am doing is sharing information that we do know something about, is that OK with you Steve?





Saturday, November 9th 2019 at 7:36PM
Deacon Ron Gray
At least we agree about Sondland facing perjury but not that he admitted there was a quid pro quo.

Saturday, November 9th 2019 at 9:59PM
Steve Williams
The writing is on the wall, you can drop the words quid pro quo for Bribery and Extortion.


Sunday, November 10th 2019 at 9:38AM
Deacon Ron Gray
We also agree that bribery or extortion are the appropriate terms. There was no bribery or extortion. What there was is the President keeping his oath of office. No one is above the law.

Sunday, November 10th 2019 at 3:28PM
Steve Williams
Holding up already appropriated Military founds for Ukraine is the bribery and putting terms to the investigation is the act of Extortion.

Who do you think you are, some Gangster or something?


Sunday, November 10th 2019 at 4:04PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Holding up founds for Ukraine isn't bribery Ron. Didn't you pay attention to the long history of impoundments I posted?

Sunday, November 10th 2019 at 4:51PM
Steve Williams
For personal gain is Steve is against "THE LAW" and that is the bottom line.

CAN YOU SAY "PERSONAL GAIN," Steve?

The proof is in the request it self.


Sunday, November 10th 2019 at 5:10PM
Deacon Ron Gray
You can't prove personal gain Ron, but I can prove it was not for personal gain.

Sunday, November 10th 2019 at 5:39PM
Steve Williams
I am standing-by Steve, prove your point.


Sunday, November 10th 2019 at 6:08PM
Deacon Ron Gray
The proof is what I showed you on your other blog Ron.

"I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it."

"Us" and "country" means the United States of America, not Donald Trump.

Sunday, November 10th 2019 at 7:01PM
Steve Williams
What was asking the Ukrainians for dirt on the Biden's for?

What you are doing is, you are trying to manufacture a defense for our president, without any evidence. Steve, you have not presented no proof yet.

Steve, if you had any proof of your baseless allegations to protect what Trump has done in this investigation, you would have presented it anywhere you are and would be more then happy to present that information to prove your point but you are not happy at all because you are living scared and you act like you want to run from my questions because you have no answers.




Sunday, November 10th 2019 at 10:10PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Is there dirt on Biden Ron? Did I miss something?

Monday, November 11th 2019 at 1:30AM
Steve Williams
You have not answered this question yet: "What was asking the Ukrainians for dirt on the Biden's for?"


Monday, November 11th 2019 at 9:35AM
Deacon Ron Gray
It was for nothing Ron.

Monday, November 11th 2019 at 10:37AM
Steve Williams
MY QUESTION: You have not answered this question yet: "What was asking the Ukrainians for dirt on the Biden's for?"

YOUR REPLY: It was for nothing Ron.
Monday, November 11th 2019 at 10:37AM

That is what you believe Steve? That is no defense Steve. You really don't know, because if you did know, you can see that "What was asking the Ukrainians for dirt on the Biden's for?" was not for US or U.S. or our Country, now don't you see that Steve?

Trump actions appear to be that Trump may have a harder time with Biden because he knows that Biden will cut Trump from history, like he is trying to do with Obama and that is on his mind "'You can't let that happen to me!' .


Monday, November 11th 2019 at 11:49AM
Deacon Ron Gray
It was for NOTHING Ron, because "digging up dirt on Biden" is NOTHING but one of your FICTIONS. Try a rational question.


Monday, November 11th 2019 at 12:23PM
Steve Williams
I never asked Ukraine to dig up dirt on The Biden's, check your facts, TRUMP did and he continues to ask that question, to this very day.

What about "EXTORTION" that you don't understand?


Monday, November 11th 2019 at 2:05PM
Deacon Ron Gray
The Bottom Line question is "Did Trump, PARTICIPATE in a bribery plot?

Mr. Soudland is not just pointing a finger at the White House right now and he's doing so in the most guiltiest possible way. By walking back and revising his past testimony that was initially more friendly to Trump.


Monday, November 11th 2019 at 3:12PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Extortion involves COERCION Ron, e.g. force, or the threat of violence. Since when is withholding a GIFT coercion?

Monday, November 11th 2019 at 4:03PM
Steve Williams
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