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It's gut check time again. Same rules: If you are not ready to explore your inner feelings and beliefs...leave now...don't read another word! AS ALWAYS YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ------ Part VI- Religion As always the talented E. Private posted a Blog yesterday that challenged us to think: http://blackinamerica.com/cgi-bin/blog.cgi... As a result, folks were blowing me on email. ************************************* "Dr. Glover, I just got through reading some of your responses to the "Blacks and Homos*xuality" blog. I agree with your position that people must research and understand the bible for themselves. God blessed us with a mind of our to think with for that very purpose, I believe. So many people have had hands in writing the bible (Old and New Testament) along with "revisions" down through the ages. Not to mention the numerous translations (gives creedence to the saying "lost in translation"). How can we not try to understand the bible for ourselves? I have been rebuffed for this position by those who would say, "God, the omnipotent being, wouldn't let his word be corrupted." I try to remind them that pieces of the bible are missing and that it has been historically proven that passages in the bible have been changed by kings and high ranking clergyman for their own purposes. I am dismissed as less than faithful. Its not God that I lack faith in, its the intentions of people. I believe everyone must find their own truth in the word by maintaining a personal relationship with God. Anyways, that's my two cents and I applaud your willingness to take on the subject" ************************************* This has inspired me to write this gut check! Okay, this is an argument in the making. But healthy debate on this topic is needed for growth… Over the past few weeks I’ve seen tons of Blogs and Posts where people, my people, use their version of religion to justify behaviors, feelings, discrimination, or treatment of other folks who are different than themselves. The issue for me is not faith, but knowledge. Black folks will spare no expense to know everything there is to know about the Bahamas before we take a 7-day cruise. We’ll read everything ever written about Beyonce Knowles-Carter…and can quote her shoe size. Heck, we can tell you the date Michael Vick started elementary school. But we haven’t read the book (your specific religious flavor) that we claim guides our life: Torah, Koran, Bible, Vedas, Mormon, Avesta , Sahib, Scientology, you name it. Why do we claim to love GOD, but refuse to read his messages in their entirety? Or worse, why do we claim to love or hate others based on the limited stuff we’ve read in our book? Or my favorites: Why do we quote stuff from our book without any knowledge of the context of who wrote it, when it was written, who it was written to, or WHY it was written in the first place? Why do we quote stuff that we heard (NOT READ) based on someone else’s interpret from our book? Why do we believe part of our book, but try to change the meaning of other stuff (or act like…”that’s not what that says”) in our books? Being allowed to be an expert on religion without a holistic knowledge of our faith is dangerous! Quoting stuff from our books without having read and studied the context…is one of the most destructive things in our Black in America experience. We apply things wrong, we make judgments that are flawed, and we spew hate when thought we were showing love. As well, we transfer this misguided logic to other parts of our lives. We become self-certified experts of anything we wish…and refuse to seek help or change our closed minded view of the world! Now I don’t want to challenge your faith, or ask you to change your concept of the afterlife. I am begging you however to know your religion. If you are going to use your religion as your guide…read what it says…every single word. Study its history…past-up-till-now! Then enter into faith-based debates. Would you argue medicine without understand all the variables? Would you debate how to fly…without reading a single book on flying? Know about the people who created the versions or messages that you follow. Understand why they did or didn’t include things that effect your belief. And if you happen to have time, learn about the rest of the globe. As such a small part of the world…we do ourselves an injustice by not knowing what others think, feel, and believe. STATS: There are ~ 6,716,519,735 in the world. More than 6,416,519,73…LIVE SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN THE USA!!! Well over 6,666,519,735 are not African-American. So what are your views? Is a little bit of religion enough to be considered an expert? Do you need to read the whole book to follow or quote it? Do you need to understand the context of the words to believe and follow them? Is blind faith better than no faith at all? Who cares who wrote the stuff…just believe…right?
Posted By: Dr. Ahmad Glover
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 11:21AM
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Mister Johnson, THANK YOU. Short and sweet. I need to practice that.
You're right, hate was never inferred nor expressed. Homos*xuality is just one of those subjects where if you don't agree with it, you're labeled a hatemonger or a homophobe.
It's foolish really...and manipulative, if you ask me.
Blessings...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 11:43AM
Dee Gray
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Mister Johnson,
Although inspired by E. Privates Blog, this posting is broader (I hope:). My terms Hate and Love are used in their normal context. Both are based on perception. Sometimes words that are seen as mild or debate can be viewed as hateful...prime example: YOU PEOPLE.
I do however apologize if anyone thinks, thought, or will think I attach the word to the discussion last night...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 11:44AM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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Dee,
This blog is not about homos*xuals. This about if about knowledge and understanding of our faith. Believe what you believe...I'm just asking you to read and know your religion!
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 11:52AM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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P.S. E. Private must have really hit a nerve :o)
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 11:57AM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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Thx E,
Like you (and everybody else) I joined think site to change perceptions about Blacks in America. And ya'll know as good as I do, that we have got some house cleaning to do if you are going to invite company in for dinner and CNN interviews.
No matter how painful and touchy we have to open these doors and clean out some of this junk. Or we have to agree that this is our junk and we're proud of it. In either case...I am happen to help clean...just show me the room:)
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 12:18PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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Mister Johnson,
But what about Black Folks? Surely I haven't met or conversed with all Black Folks, but from my vantage point we seem to be overly accepting of self-certified religious leaders. As well, we quote religious doctrine without understand context or whole book(s)..A LOT!
And the folks I've met, talked to, lived with...weren't extremist. These were everyday folks!
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 12:29PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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Dr. Glover, with all due respect, I do read and what's more, I actually STUDY. Being in ministry requires me to take what I do and say very seriously and when discussing the Word (especially) to have my heart and head on straight.
Even though this blog is not about homs*xuality, you DID make mention of E Private's blog about the subject and a specific response from someone in your email (I guess) talking about the very subject. You started there and used someone's response (agreeable one) to do the gut check. So, at it's face value, it's not about homos*xuality, but in depth, the very premise of you make about reading the Word, etc., came out of your disagreeing stance with those of us who believe that homos*xuality is wrong.
And Mister Johnson is right. It has become quite divisive in nature. It's shameful really. Why, Dr. Glover, does believing it to be wrong equal either misinterpretation of scripture or hate and/or homophobia anyway??????????????????
Can ANYONE throwing out those terms answer THAT question, please?
Blessings...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 1:19PM
Dee Gray
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E Private, you said:
"Indeed. But while most of us were able to engage amically, there were a few, who showed a bit of ferocity on the subject, thereby exposing their extremities."
You're right. You were one of those people...for sure.
Blessings...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 1:21PM
Dee Gray
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Dr. Glover, you said, "P.S. E. Private must have really hit a nerve :o) "
I agree. As did you. It's hard to hear people take scripture and beat it up with propaganda and personal feelings. Leaning to one's OWN understanding is dangerous. And the theo-illogical nature of it all has literally turned my stomach. It always hits a nerve (and rightly) when I see the Word not only taken out of context, but misinterpreted and mishandled altogether. And the saddest part is that if I were someone who didn't no better...who didn't know God...who didn't try my best to build an intimate one on one relationship with Him...who didn't seek the truth for myself...who didn't actually STUDY and didn't prooftext or use eisegesis to make MY point fit...I would have ACTUALLY BELIEVED IT.
I'm praying steadfastly. I am. It's hard to see the Word run into the ground. And frankly, it hurts that most of us DO know better, but will go kicking and screaming about some subjects (such as this one) to not DO better.
I don't nearly know everything, but what I DO know, I don't hesitate to share.
Blessings...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 1:28PM
Dee Gray
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I actually have to step out of this conversation now. I'm tempted to handle it carnally and that wouldn't be right and God wouldn't get the glory. In others words, I'm tempted to have a fleshly response, and the wisdom of God is advising that I bow out now before this does get (more) personal. Then, it would cease to be about HIM.
Respectfully refusing to engage in anymore banter and participate in or incite an unnecessarily disrespectful and unGodly argument...
Blessings...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 1:34PM
Dee Gray
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E Private, I wasn't being sarcastic. I was totally serious. You were one of those very people you describe (in my opinion). And don't get too mad. LOL. It's just an opinion. Accept it or reject it. ;-)
And when all else fails (and it has...miserably), you WOULD try to attack my Christianity. Just the same as calling people who disagree with homos*xuality hatemongers and homphobes. I'd respond to that, but what's the point??????????? You'd have to know me to know better. And you don't so I expect that you'd be ignorant. (And ignorant is not a bad word. It just means you're not "in the know").
It's been real fun conversing with you. ...Really fun. Let's do this again sometime.
Again...
Blessings...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 1:55PM
Dee Gray
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EP, that previous response was a fleshly one. I'll have to talk to God about it. He's still working with me on that part of myself that welcomes a good fight.
See? I'm not sinless and don't pretend to me. But Lord, help me to win the battle before it becomes a war and I step in it. I'm gonna learn that God doesn't need my help to do God. He does just fine on His own.
"Plant the seeds," I'm telling myself again. "...and then WALK *AWAY*." LOL at my own self. I feel like Laurence Fishburn's character in Boyz n Da Hood when he was telling Tre, "You gone learn....oh yeah...you GONE learn." LOL.
Blessings...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 2:00PM
Dee Gray
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Okay...its looks like folks have stopped throwing bibles at each other...at least for now:)
How do we as a people get to a point where we can have meaningful discussions on tough questions without using and/or losing our religion? Most important, as seen in this forum, if "we" are not experts on "all" of God's word and/or we can allow the flesh to overpower God's word...why are we using scripture to answer our questions?
If you don't like gays because you believe in reproduction and they can't reproduce...I can respect that. I may have some other questions...but that is a logical, well conceived argument. Hitting me in the head with a bible is not a logical response.
What if I don't believe in your flavor of religion? What if Sunday or Church is not sacred to me? Are you the expert to shut down me for my incorrectness? Do you know your book’(s) intent, context, version, author, MEANING well enough to hide behind it.
If the answer is NO…you need to check yourself
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 2:24PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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Dr. Glover, you said:
"Most important, as seen in this forum, if "we" are not experts on "all" of God's word and/or we can allow the flesh to overpower God's word...why are we using scripture to answer our questions? "
Because none of us is PERFECT and anyone under the illusion that he is needs to check HIMSELF. Lack of perfection doesn't equal lack of truth, as you know, because you, TOO, threw some scripture out there.
And studying the Word and being able to communicate it effectively is "hiding behind it"? Amazing...just amazing. You learn something new every day. And I'll take another point from you, Dr. Glover...
LMBAO !!!! :-)
Blessings...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 2:36PM
Dee Gray
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How can one have Evil with out Good? How can one be ignorant without being Enlightened? Religion is to me man's attempt to explain the unexplainable. Science is the study of the unexplainable where answers are derived from study. We have a Doctor posting on religion which is almost contradictorary to itself. One the one hand we have a scientist then on the other we have someone that was more than likely raised in the church trying to explain away what he grew up believing. E. Private is a genius. Dee is full of compassion Mr J is articulate and Rod E is shouting wake-up (ala L. Fishburne in Skool Days)...
If 5 or 6 voices of over 6billion are at odds on whether a system or morality makes on stupid how will the 8000 or so member of BIA think? I've traveled the world and seen true works of evil, poverty, horror and resounding faith in what is NOT SEEN... and once you see that why would I call any one stupid for having hope to believe in something not seen? By my profile all of you can see I seek Light and truth be told none of us have a clue on what real or fabricated.
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:06PM
GREGORY GULLEY
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Dee and Greg,
I post questions to make us (me too) think. And I always sit back and LMBAO:)
We are a diverse people with diverse views...I pray that we can air our views in a many that allows us to laugh and break bread at the end. In any of my Blogs, we don't have to agree...but we do have to think!
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:12PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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Oh yeah and as a social scientist I am often torn between science and faith...therefore I allow truth to be the deciding factor in all (well mostly all:) things I do!
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:14PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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Doc,
I agree i laugh when i type my responses because I find what I'm not saying even funnier than what I do say. Folks that have never seen a lot of things tend to hold on to the narrow view of life they do know. So to pick on the Church just may get you cut....LOL
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:15PM
GREGORY GULLEY
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It's pointless sometimes, to try to have a constructive conversation if anything spiritual comes to the table because then believers, like myself, have to see words like, "Can not you all see or is it the veil that has been placed over your hearts and minds? Religion makes all people stupid not just Blacks! " or "How I wish, we would not point our fingers and condemn our brothers and sisters to hell as if we are God ourselves! Leave the judgement to God is all I say." ...as if what we've said is judgment or condemnation AT ALL.
But how can I expect any different? I'm peculiar and proud of it. Sometimes it gets a little comfortable, but God does what He does on purpose, in purpose and for purpose. ROTF...
Dr. Glover, we do agree on one thing though:
"...we can air our views in a many that allows us to laugh and break bread at the end."
Come out friends? Definitely a GOOD PLAN!!! Hugs...
Blessings...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:27PM
Dee Gray
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I'm glad this blog was posted. Recently I have been learning about Kemet (Egypt) and the religious practices. During my research I've learned about Serapis and Aryon, and the Nicean Creed. All these things have made me question my religious beliefs. Last year I saw a documentary called The Zeigiest Movie. So then to learn about Kemet and all the things that white people have done to our people and how they have trying so hard to hide the truth about our history made me more curious and hungry for knowledge that's why I've been choosing the topics I have been discussing on my radio show. So here's my question, did white people mess us up spiritually, and is Jesus real? Why aren't there any historical records or pictures of him? The same King James bible that black people read came from the same king james that sent Willie Lynch to America, thus came the term lynching, and the speech that has kept our minds in slavery for hundreds of years. Are Christians worshiping a Jesus that never exsisted? Help me out please because this too much to handle.
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:28PM
chivonne lawson
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Greg,
Having spend 20 years in the Air Force and lived on most continents...I've seen folks do the damndest stuff in the name of GOD.
Sadly, when you look at the same verse these folks used to do these horrible things...the text meant something else when it was written. In some cases the author warns folks not to take the verse(s) out of context.
But thousands of years later the Bosnians hated the Serbs... over 2000 year old words, the Turks hate the Kurds...over 2000 year old words, the Jews hate the Palestinians....over 3000 year old words...the list goes on and on.
I just want my people to think, read, and know what we are talking about before we fall into the trap! The lord works in mysterious ways...and so does the DEVIL!
I’m begging my people to think…which one (GOD or satan) would want you to hate another one of GOD's creations?
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:29PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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Che, I believe that Jesus is ABSOLUTELY real. And "that King James Bible" you refer to isn't "black folks' Bible..." It's A Bible...a version, which is a translation from Hebrew and Greek to English. Here's a link talking about how the translation(s) came about and why they were necessary: http://www.bible.ca/b-many-versions.htm
I'm not sure about the other parts you posted. I've answered what I can answer though. ...hope it helps.
Blessings...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:33PM
Dee Gray
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Dr. Glover, ;-) ...
God ain't no mystery.
Blessings...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:34PM
Dee Gray
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Che,
All mankind and all it's knowledge originated in AFRICA!!!!! The Garde of Eden was in Africa...Tubal Cain the first worker of Metal was African... the Cescendents of Noah that created the Arts and Sciences were African!!! So of course greeks, romans, araians are going to try and lighten up the creators of our past instead of given the ORIGINATORS the credit. In genesis Yahweh made Adam out of the dust of the Earth... Now tell me where lies any "dust" that when water is added to it comes ot WHITE? Religion does not make men ignorant, but becoming complacent just might keep that man from learning Christian beliefs are millions of years older than the Jesus story.... Jesus is real... his time line is the fabrication....
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:35PM
GREGORY GULLEY
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Thank you Mrs. Gray I am looking at that link right now
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:37PM
chivonne lawson
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Che Love,
Back during the time of Christ (or shortly after), there as an impartial guy named Josephus. He was the historian of his day and he documented something that lets us know that a guy named Jesus did exist. Sadly, his account will definitely give you more questions than answers.
You see Josephus documented the death of Jesus’ brother James (yep the same guy that wrote the book of James in the new testament...ie....the warnings about the incorrect teachings of Peter and Paul…e.g….you can’t have deeds without works).
http://www.religiousstudies.uncc.edu/jdtab...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:40PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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Dr... you cant bring up James, Jesus brother the real priest in the Jewish threefold leadership structure.... You have Jesus (The King) You have James (The Priest) and God the bridge between the two... John the Baptist was one of the pillars until his death and Jesus the radical had to jump the revolution off to get the Romans out of his country... so he imbodied bith roles King and Priest.... Um did not Jesus tell his disciples to seek out his BROTHER James after his death? Doc what about Barabus some say that he was really James and the Jews choose their Preist over their King.... Come on religion doesnt make black folks stupid.... ignorant maybe... but stupid nah....
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 3:45PM
GREGORY GULLEY
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Greg,
That's too much:) I'm not trying to get too deep on this Blog...everybody ain't ready for everything!
I just want use to know our books BEFORE we try to use them as weapons. That has been done to us, against us...and for us. We must rise above our differences and realize that we can still laugh and play together..even when we don't agree....cause weez family ya'll!
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 4:00PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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E... Depends on the source of the info as to who was who back in the day. Constantine wanted a combined empior so he grab a little of this lets call if what we cllit now, Easter and Chritmas from the pagans... the spring feast ooops passover... from the druids... and with enough pensmanship... and a few councils we have Christanity.... Again the source of the information is key... I gre up in Ohio and did you know the underground railroad ran right thru that state? Funny I didnt know that because my Ohio approved history books didnt cover it! The Source... Jesus was a radical... James who was killed by one of the dicsiples was a priest... and Judas was asked to turn Jesus in.... All in all we all will argue this point into etternity, but consider the source... oh the Egyptian and Ethopian bibles has books in it that our King james doesnt mention, ant both of them are considerably older than the KJV? I wonder if they held Africans in Higher esteem then the Causcasion edition....
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 4:34PM
GREGORY GULLEY
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The impartial historian of the day, begs James as the brother of Jesus. This fact is used by most scholars to support Jesus' existence. Although we'd like to, we can't have it both ways...either James is the bother and Jesus existed...or he is not and there is no evidence of Jesus?
Greg,
I'm not sure where you get you info...but you have some of the most up-to-date science facts that we have. There is evidence that during the period that Jesus lived radicals were in fact attempting to get the non-Jews out. Sadly, our biblical account of Jesus' death shows that the very people he sought to defend had him put to dead. And his crime was not a Roman crime...his crime was failure to prove his bloodline to Abraham…ie…meet prophecy requirements. Thereby, False King (prophet) of the Jews was his crime and sentence.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/jew...
Ya'll see this is exactly why I posted this Blog. If we have these many differences about the most important thing in our life...why are we using this to settle our differences. You see it as green...I see it as red. We have to find other less confrontational means to work through tough Black folk issues.
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 4:51PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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E,
Spot on! The issue for Jesus was his ability to be the Messiah; match the prophecy of his coming. The Jews believed (still believe) that he had to have a direct bloodline to David (back to Abraham) to meet GOD's covenant ("I shall make you a great nation"). When you get through all the who be got whoms for Jesus...it stops at Joseph...and it is widely held that Joseph was not Jesus' father: Matthew 1:16.
Again...spot on!
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 5:06PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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The devil is alive. There is nothing wrong with learning more about the Bible and other religions. The Bible actually encourages it. Heck, the book of Proverbs speaks over and over about the goodness of knowledge. How can you ever spot the enemy if you don't know him/it first?
I don't understand why people debate the Bible/Scripture. You either believe in it or you don't. There is one sure thing in this life and that is we all will die. No one will live forever. Those who follow the teachings of the LORD know exactly where they are going. Those who don't, don't but should. The thing about Hell is, you don't have to believe in it to burn in its fires for eternity. We all have to make that decision. Heaven or not. There is no debate necessary.
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 5:26PM
Ebone Evans
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Ebony,
Way to enter a room and just start kicking folks in the eye;)
What if I never heard about your flavor of faith in my corner of the world? Am I doomed cause we don't have TV?
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 5:38PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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Ebony.
Came in like the young Mike Tyson.... But valid point I aint got no TV either, so not all hears what thus sayeth the Lord...
Wednesday, August 13th 2008 at 5:51PM
GREGORY GULLEY
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People always say believe in your heart. The heart is just an organ, it cannot think, all it does it pump blood through our bodies. Its our minds we must use not our hearts. Don't get me wrong I do believe in God, even the bible tells us to seek and we shall find. I cannot go on the bible alone. I have to research, i have to study, we're supposed to study in order to grow. How do we know that Jesus and Serpais are 2 different people? How will we ever know the truth if we don't search for it? Religion is so much information and there is so much history behind it. I do wonder though, if Christianity is not the true religion of black people, should we still practice it?
Friday, August 15th 2008 at 12:37AM
chivonne lawson
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Brother Rod,
I feel your pain. Folks like to be experts on religion without the training, time and/or education needed to be the expert!
Sadly, with religion, we become overnight experts and teach our brand of goodness to others. As well, since we have no concept that a whole world exists (not just our singular churches views) we think everything is based on what is or is not in our specific religious book/teachings.
Don't get me wrong, I love for my people to have strong views on an issue. I love more...for them to have defendable, well thought out positions that are based on something more than feelings. Please don't forget that "FEELINGS BROUGHT SLAVES TO THE NEW WORLD!"
We must use logic going forward...
Friday, August 15th 2008 at 10:03AM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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Corey, your description of the heart was a good one. I agree whole-heartedly.
Sunday, August 17th 2008 at 12:51AM
Dee Gray
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Religion- The Direction of The Creator of the Heavens and the Earth. No that does not make anyone stupid.
Europeans call some descendants of Adam and Eve; black and some red and some yellow and some white-----------Thats stupid.
Europeans, though have a religion or way of life that they call white supremacy and yes any who follow that religion are stupid black folks, red folks, yellow folks and white folks.
Sunday, August 17th 2008 at 9:32AM
robert powell
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First a lil side note.....I did not misspell my name. It is spelled Ebone'(pronounced Eb-bow-nay). It is not Ebony. Just wanted to get that straight.
Second, why do you need a television to read the Bible and know the LORD? It's not about my flavor of faith. It's quite simple, read the Bible,follow HIS words. You may not like what I have to say but I'm right. You either believe or you don't. You either go to Heaven or Hell. The choice is up to you.
Monday, August 18th 2008 at 1:27PM
Ebone Evans
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Thank you yet once again Dr. Glover, hopefully your comment,just now, and this blog will go a long way in showing/proving we are in need of reeducation/trying to use basic logical conclusions...like...education-centered 'wisdom' is the magic bullet needed to save mankind itself from it self.
Again my thanks and respect for/to you Dr.
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Dr. Glover there is a weekly program on the science channel called Naked Archaeology where you can find a lot of scientific discoverys related to this subject on/about the Bible in an "objective' manner.And, away from main stream media's bible conclusions/religious superiority subjective beliefs-conclusions,etc. There is a lot of discussion among Bible education experts and theology professors from major colleges.... dialoging on the Bible from digs, recorded history. They cover the times(proven) periods when and where the different parts of the Bible were written and how these recording related to the social order-conditions at that time...On my cable I can get many of these educational channels....
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Dr. Glover...Gregory says he "reads",lets try 'word of mouth' , life experiences of ups and downs educate you:then see If it makes sense to you in the first placebefore believing you have been educated. Wisdom should come from knowledge!!!!.
Just never use the conclusions of others there by allowing your fear of offending others , going to hell or lack of self-esteem block our your OWN ability to do your own thinking....Make your own choices if you have to learn the language of smoke signals, drums, sign language or trusting your elder's verbal history being passed down for /from countless generations....
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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And one of the ironies of something I saw was tracing King David ,archaeologic, and how he 'aquired his lovers" - legal wive:(of which you know whom Ispeak of) King David had an obsession with Iranian women... now fast forward to Israel and Iran today?????
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Be very careful Gregory as you are actually agreeing with the Buddhist concept of:balance, cause and effect, being responsible for you own actions by placing you in full charge of your own daily life....No, all Buddhism do not have Buddha idols. They have a variety of social beliefs. religious beliefs, spiritual individuals as do Christian religions.
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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"Amen brother Gregory and may we now try to begin to at least start to understand why our African history-culture did not start in American slavery nor the Civil Rights movement...truth brother truth "the God's truth"!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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...sorry Gregory, I left out of my comment to you to smile as I did while Iwas fully agreeing with your comment about what makes you laugh...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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"common" sense tell me that some where there is a message critique of EP?????????? Please my people it this is true please, I beg US to let us rise beyond this distructive behavior to black Unity;and leave this to the main stream media. In the name of all that is Holy.....and humaine....
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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