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In ONE year this site is not what it was when I joined!!! (726 hits)

My how this site has changed and not in a positive manner. I was very happy to have come across this site when it was presented last year. So many people sharing knowledge, experiences, history and even exposing the members to the great goods services and products that many of us (myself included) that under regular circumstances would never have heard about. Some of the best mature adult discussions about issues and other topics that so many could relate to in one way or another. There still are some really good informational blogs on this site, but the relationships that use to exist amongst the members is not there any more. I use to visit this site every single day, looking forward to something new, refreshing and exciting to learn, share or just absorb like a sponge. It was an abundance of those types of blogs, but that is not the case anymore. Those blogs are few now, although some do exist that I really enjoy reading and will continue to do so.

Some of the worst treatment towards women that I never saw on this site before. Blatant antagonizing and demeaning words and total mistreatment. This was not the case before, ever. People being upset that those types of comments are being deleted as if anyone is suppose to leave those rude and demeaning comments up for others to see. Sorry I don't condone those things nor do I consider those types of comments as having dialogue with people. If some people don't know the difference between dialogue and blatant disrespect, then I suggest they look the words up in the dictionary to get a better understanding. I said it before and I'll say it again, I will not tolerate ignorant, disrespectful and demeaning comments towards other people on any blog that I post. Nor will I provide a platform for some people to do such to others. Yes I will use the delete button at will, not because I have an issue with people not agreeing with me. Honestly it does not matter to me if people do or don't because I don't post blogs looking for confirmation of my thoughts or opinions. I also have no issue with agreeing to disagree. I have a major issue with people that feel the need to demean, disrespect and antagonize other people as their way of attempting to make what they may see as a point. If anyone needs to attempt to make another feel bad in order for them to make themselves feel better, truly has some internal issues that they themselves need to address.

I hope this site gets back to the place it was when it first started and can continue to grow to higher heights from there. Right now it appears to be going down and moving downward fast. What a shame.
Posted By: Marquerite Burgess
Friday, January 8th 2010 at 5:33PM
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Hi Mrs. Irma, I pray it will pass also and in the meantime I will continue to do what I have been doing when visiting this site. Your very welcome (smile)
Friday, January 8th 2010 at 11:29PM
Marquerite Burgess
Hello Ms. Burgess,

You said this, “Yes I will use the delete button at will, not because I have an issue with people not agreeing with me. Honestly, it does not matter to me if people do or do not because I do not post blogs looking for confirmation of my thoughts or opinions. I also have no issue with agreeing to disagree.”

Then you said this, “I have a major issue with people that feel the need to demean, disrespect and antagonize other people as their way of attempting to make what they may see as a point.”

Now, in all honesty how are you able to distinguish that you are doing the right thing when you delete a comment and say that the person is being disrespectful when all the while you have an anger issue with that person?

Please explain your wisdom to me.


Friday, January 8th 2010 at 11:39PM
Harry Watley
As usually Harry, you attempt to think you know me when you don't. I can make the distinction because I am aware of the definition of words, can see blatant disrespect when I see it. In addition, I have no anger issue period. Yes I will delete those types of comments made towards people and if you don't want your comments deleted then don't commence to make those types of comments towards people. I also said
"If anyone needs to attempt to make another feel bad in order for them to make themselves feel better, truly has some internal issues that they themselves need to address."
This is most important and I suggest to get to understanding this blog in totality and not picked apart in fragments. May question to you is: Why do you think, feel or even believe that everyone must like and or agree to dialogue with you? Accept the fact that some people chose not to participate in the merry go round of dialogue with you. Does not mean they dislike or have an anger issue with you, they just choose not to have dialogue with you. Even when explained to you in full detail their reasons you seem to not understand or choose not to understand. Then you get ignored by them period. I have read numerous blogs and comments by other people addressing this issue with you and yet you still refuse to understand that there are some people on this site that just choose not to have any exchange of dialogue with you. You may not like it or agree with their choice, but it is what it is.

Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 12:17AM
Marquerite Burgess
Hello Ms. Burgess,

Well, I do not want to say much to you because I am afraid of you disrespecting me out of your anger and dislike. Therefore, the less I say to you and the less I frequent your blogs do better role of both of us would be.

Anyway, I asked you how are you able to distinguish what is disrespect from your anger and you told me because you know the definition of disrespect. I do not want to take it any further since I walk on eggshells with you, but that is not a good answer. I could see and feel that your anger is why you truly delete my comments.

Okay.

Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 1:29AM
Harry Watley
Harry, you use deflection when you have no way to accept that some people choose not to dialogue with you, even when they clearly explain to you their reasons of such. Reverse psychology does not work with me, which is something else that you tend to do when some people do not choose to dialogue with you. Regardless to you thinking my answer to you is a good or not does not matter. That is the answer period.
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 3:23AM
Marquerite Burgess
Marqurite: There has been almost a complete turn-about. Still a few informative blogs get through. I miss the communication of togetherness of members. There are still some of us around. I appreciate this blog which brings this to our attention. We should look forward to reading, and bloggings in a place where we are not be subjected to ridicule every time we key in our blog, make a comment, and partake in discussions/opinions. We all want to be respected. Great blogs like this one are becoming a rarity! Thanks Sis!
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 8:55AM
MIISRAEL Bride
Hello Ms. Burgess,

I do not consider myself a hardheaded person. As I said, I could see that you more than dislike me for no just reason. You practically hate me. You are making it clear to me that you do not want to dialogue with me under any circumstances and I understand. This serious psychological problem most often time would lead you to go berserk if you were in close physical proximity to me. It seems that everything about me passionately angers you and that is okay if you were able to keep your anger in check. Not all of us are going to love each other, as we should. I personally consider your behavior towards me to be very disrespectful, but I do not make a big thing about it. However, we need to get along to accomplish the bigger picture of having a better status in the world and that you are not able to do. You are not able to rise above your anger to accomplish a better tomorrow.

Therefore, I will not make things any worse for myself and just politely bow out of your life.

Okay.

Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 9:59AM
Harry Watley
Good Day Harry! We need much more sincere ingredients for great discussions, honest, intelligent and rational thinking. We are all entitled to our opinions, whether facts get lost or not. We must remember FACTS usually come for someone else observations/documentations and or their own opinions. Respect however, is always from an individual. We can take in Facts that aren't always necessarily true. It's a fact Harry that you believe you are Black America's first genuine prophet of God. Fact being you believe what you are. I respect that's your fact. That's what respect is. It's never easy is it-- but it's receptable as a Fact.
Have a nice day Harry. Fact: I'm thankful for each day.





Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 11:38AM
MIISRAEL Bride
Marquerite,

I've been on this site about half a year, so cannot go back as far as you. But I can say personally it has been a great benefit to me. And I believe I can see how it has changed certain others of my friends as well.

It makes me cringe sometimes to see certain exchanges between friends I have an equal fondness for, but who have issues with each other, or comments made undeservingly towards friends by others. But we can't all understand the understanding others have between themselves. As far as insults towards me it most often makes me laugh.
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 11:47AM
Steve Williams
Harry, understand this: 1. I don't know you to dislike nor like you. 2. I don't have hate in my heart towards anyone it is not apart of who I am as a person period. 3. your correct in your assessment that I do not wish to dialogue with you. Dialoguing with you is like riding a merry-go-round. 4. Because someone chooses not to dialogue does not mean they have any psychological problems, it just means they prefer not to participate in any dialogue with you. Accept that and keep it moving towards people that prefer to have dialogue with. Simple as that. Just because I may like Strawberry Ice Cream does not mean everyone else has to like it also and if they don't it does not mean they have psychological problems, just means they prefer to have something different. 5. If you feel that my choice not to dialogue with you is disrespectful to you, then that is a personal issue of yours. I'm not required to be a participate in anything with you nor do I have the desire to do so and that is my choice. You may not like it nor agree with it, but it is as it is. 6. I say this for the last time to you, I don't have an anger issue with you or anyone else for that matter. You have no idea what I do on a regular basis, where I am in life, just know that I don't need to participate in what your talking about for me or anyone else in this world to rise (as you say) and the sooner you understand, respect and accept that the better things will be for you.
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 12:33PM
Marquerite Burgess
Hi Miisrael, how have you been? It's been a moment since we have chatted. Yes it has been a complete turnaround. I miss that type of communication and togetherness we use to have also. It was very nice and had a sense of togetherness even when we may have agreed to disagree. It never turned into some of what I have been seeing lately, what I have been seeing is disgusting and sometimes down right attempts to bully people in to going along with what ever is being said. Unbelievable! I realized when it all started going down hill and refuse to help it go any further.

You said: "we should look forward to reading, and bloggings in a place where we are not be subjected to ridicule every time we key in our blog, make a comment, and partake in discussions/opinions. We all want to be respected."

This is such a true statement and at one time this site was just like that. We were able to do such and not be subjected to that of which you pointed out. That is so not the case now. Yes there are still some of us around and those I do enjoy looking forward to their blogs and yours are one that I still look forward to as I have always done in the beginning.

Thank you so much. We can turn this back around to where it was, but it will require doing somethings that some may not like or agree with, but it is what it is.
Continued Blessing My Sister.
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 12:48PM
Marquerite Burgess
Hey Marquerite:

I FEEL YOUR PAIN!!!

One of us, whose views I deeply respect, commented on the recent storms and dramas that it is much like a family. Anyone who lives in a family, especially large ones, knows that nobody goes at it with more venom and passion than brothers and sisters. They argue, they insult, they bicker. But the next day, it is all forgotten (hopefully) and life goes back to normal.

This site is like a little village--there are so many good and decent folks whose views and friendships I value--and there are the village idiots--and I love them all.

So, please don't get too discouraged. How does that seventies song go:
"WE ARE FAMILY..."


Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 12:50PM
Richard Kigel
Hi Steve,
I will say this, this site is nothing like it use to be and I mean nothing. People need to realize that just because some people choose to partake in dialogue with some does not mean that everyone has to partake in dialogue with those people also. We all have choices and when one is made, others have to respect the choices made. Everything is not for everybody, life goes on and people should just move on.

Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 12:57PM
Marquerite Burgess
Hi Richard,
Debating, Dialoguing and what you have described are totally different things. It is totally unnecessary some of the mess that I have witnessed on this site. A site that was put together to allow people to Blog about diverse subjects and so many other things. I will not be bullied into thinking that I'm obligated to go along with whomever just because they think I should. I will continue to read what I want, comment on that of which I find appealing and move on from that of which I don't.
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 1:06PM
Marquerite Burgess
Hello Ms. Shields,

If you do not mind me saying so I believe that you are somewhat confuse. So let me say it again. Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but not everyone is entitled to his or her own facts. Consequentially, you are having problems distinguishing an opinion from a fact. A fact could be proven while an opinion does not fit the same criteria. In other words, an opinion does not require proof although most intelligent opinions should be based on facts and not just ideas pulled out of the air.

Now, I never said it was a fact that I am Black America’s first genuine prophet since I cannot scientifically prove it. Therefore, the person hearing me say that I am this should automatically know from their perspective it is an opinion.

A prophet is a person anointed by God. When God anointed all of the prophets including me there were not any witnesses to confirm the anointing. Therefore, it would be from the person’s perspective that all the now accepted were genuine prophets. If not prophets would not be rejected to begin with, am I right.

Facts are never depending on someone else’s observation to be a fact. Anyone could point out a fact to you since he or she observed it and you did not. However, observation does not mean the fact personally observed belongs to the person that observed it. Facts are independent of human beings. Facts are truths and all truths belong to God, am I right. God created creation based on facts and the more we learn these facts the more our intelligence, wisdom and understanding increases, am I right.

Please rethink what you have said to me and correct yourself.

Tell me what you think.

Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 1:09PM
Harry Watley
Ms. Burgess,

I have no problem with you not wanting to dialogue with me. My problem with you is your blatant disrespect, hatred and anger towards me that you went to the point of deleting all my comments on your blog. You would comb through your blog every three minutes to see if I made a comment just too spitefully delete the comment. Now, that is a serious psychological issue.

Again, my problem has to do with deleting my comments. No one should delete anything said. Therefore, I see that as disrespect to all the members frequenting your blog. I have never deleted anyone’s comments on my blogs because I respect and deal with anything a person has to say.

That is my point.

Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 1:26PM
Harry Watley
Dear Marquerite:

ABSOLUTELY! I think you are 100% correct!
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 1:29PM
Richard Kigel
Harry Dear: In all due RESPECT ... "It's your OPINION YOU are Black America's first genuine prophet. I stand corrected. Facts and opinions can often cause confusion, even with me. So, that why I practice using respect.
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 1:41PM
MIISRAEL Bride
Marquerite: I'm doing great! Really glad to read something you've blogged. I've missed you much. That's not an opinion, that's true. Lov U!
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 1:46PM
MIISRAEL Bride
By the way Harry: I never said it was a fact your were Black America's genuine prophet. I said " it's a FACT you BELIEVE that you are." See how confusing that is? It's an opinion how I may or may not receive it. Understanding is the first motive in undercovering facts. Respectable I have been to your comments.
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 2:02PM
MIISRAEL Bride
Greetings Sister,
It appears that the honey moon is over and time for real work to occur. The scope of involvement and input from others will and should diversify. What has happened here is only natural, as ugly as it seems. The laws of nature dictates that there is always chaos before order. Even in the inception of "Blacks In America", it was based on the fact that African Americans are catching hell since the birth of this country. A flood of concerned people shared their views and opinions on what is right and what is wrong, and all are valid from their perspective.
But now we are at a critical juncture or tipping point, stimulated by the poor economy (depression) and becoming more aware of the self serving behavior of those in our government who don't have a vested interest in the welfare of all Americans.

This site is a catalyst for discussion and hopefully for change. The out growth should be the development of forums that are relevant to like minded people, absent of those who only want to create confusion and maintain dysfunction.
BIA is fulfilling its initial function, and that is to open lines of communication between people of color for the benefit of consciousness raising.
It is now the responsibility of every individual to take it to another level if any progressive actions are to be taken.
So, don't feel to bad. Even your thoughts regarding all of this is a natural progression that only you can take charge of and move forward.
From what I've seen here I know you'll take the appropriate actions for change.
Peace!
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 2:21PM
Dr. Okpara Nosakhere
Harry I think ....I love you. Truly I really do. "I'm going shopping." Everyone enjoy your weekend!
Bye...

Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 2:32PM
MIISRAEL Bride
Harry, understand this. I have far more important things going on in my life than to be on this site waiting with baited breath to locate a comment from you. I also am not moved by that fact that you think anyone (myself included) should not delete your comments or anyone else's for that matter. That is your personal issue to have to deal with and not mine to be concerned with. If what you have to say is that important to you, then do like the rest and create your own blog. Then your words can remain for as long as you like. I don't and will not be subjected to your merry go round of dialogue period. I will not give you a platform to antagonize, disrespect, undermine nor insult the intelligence of people (myself included) on the wall of my blogs. PERIOD!.
Somewhere in your life, you believe that you are entitled to be accepted by everyone, that everyone must agree with your position on what YOU believe to be true and if they don't then you claim they have a psychological problem, when in FACT the problem is yours not theirs. You also have come to believe that everyone MUST keep your comments just because you wrote them. WRONG they don't.
You remind me of one of those people that want to be far more important in the lives of others than you really are. You clearly have some internal issues that you need to deal with which is very evident in you having a problem with YOUR comments being deleted by people.

Harry if only ONE person did it and elected not to have dialogue with you, then I would have to say, that yes that person really has something against you. That is NOT the case, many people on this site have elected not to: Keep your comments and/or dialogue with you. Therefore the issue lies in YOU and/or something that your doing. Last but not least, people don't have to visit the blog if they chose not too, that is there choice. There are many blogs that I see posted and don't visit. Your not obligated to visit any blog I post, trust me when I say. I won't lose any sleep nor will I be offended. Unlike you (based strictly off of what you have written) I'm not looking for the attention of others, acceptance of others and things of that nature.

Lastly and I do mean Lastly, Do not come to any of my blogs and attempt to start word fights or any other negative action towards those that do comment. I WILL DELETE THOSE COMMENTS PERIOD. REGARDLESS TO YOU LIKING IT OR NOT. IT REALLY DOES NOT MATTER TO ME.
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 2:58PM
Marquerite Burgess
Hi Brother Okpara,
Yes I will and will not feel bad in the least bit.

Harry, I really am not concerned about your issue or perceived issue with Bro. Okpara. That is his choice. Accept it and move on.
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 3:03PM
Marquerite Burgess
so all of this was going on way before myself and David joined this site.... ok... that's interesting enuff to know
Saturday, November 20th 2010 at 5:03PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
@ Cynthia, yes. Like I said before " How soon some forget, but I have not" =)
Saturday, November 20th 2010 at 5:09PM
Marquerite Burgess
Sister Burgess, I hope it gets back to where it was as well. It's time for ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY!!!
Saturday, November 20th 2010 at 5:42PM
Siebra Muhammad
Sister Siebra, yes it is.
Saturday, November 20th 2010 at 6:19PM
Marquerite Burgess
BIA Administration, if you're reading this, do the right thing please.
Saturday, November 20th 2010 at 6:27PM
Siebra Muhammad
This site is NOT like it use to be. I am one that will not tolerate blatant disrespect and vile ignorance, thus, will use all recourses available to separate myself from a persons show of stupidity.
Saturday, November 20th 2010 at 7:34PM
jamal Abraham
Yes it is...and the sad part of this is that the disrespect that is being circulated here is just making it easier for the racist right wings to slap their knees, lean back and laugh at us.

If we don't start bringing about a change and start respecting ourselves, how in the hell can we expect FOX NEWS and other media outlets to respect us?
Saturday, November 20th 2010 at 8:00PM
Siebra Muhammad
Not sure if anyone noticed, but this blog was originally posted on January 8, 2010. =)
Sunday, November 21st 2010 at 8:56AM
Marquerite Burgess
Marquerite great blogs never truly have a closure because the message is continually...giving and aiding those who read and understand it's content.
Sunday, November 21st 2010 at 10:44AM
MIISRAEL Bride
Amazing!!!

Marquerite raised many astute points in January--and now we are near the end of the year and many people have noticed that the things she was speaking only seemed to get worse!!!

MIISRAEL makes a great point--the fact that this blog is still relevent and valid after all this time highlights the total validity of her points.

Let's hope we can all share conversations and insights in a respectful and courteous manner. And, as Irma suggests, just boycott those blogs and comments that violate your personal standards of decency.

KEEP THE FAITH, Marquerite!!!

Sunday, November 21st 2010 at 11:25AM
Richard Kigel
of course.... I ran across this blog... because seems here lately alot of disagreements were going on before I joined BIA.... Sis M.B. told me that she left this site originally because of the drama.... apparently the drama has always been a part of BIA.....
Sunday, November 21st 2010 at 12:16PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hi Miisreal, thanks and yes your words are very truthful. @ Richard, yes we all can continue to share conversations and insight in the manner of which you speak. It's not hard to do at all and Mrs. Irma's suggestion is the very first step in doing so. @ Cynthia, actually drama was not " Always" apart of BIA. It started when the self-proclaimed " Prophet" began hijacking everyone's blogs.
Sunday, November 21st 2010 at 12:29PM
Marquerite Burgess
lol.... and to this day.... he hasn't gotten one follower.... LOL
Sunday, November 21st 2010 at 12:37PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
...oops, almost forgot we had no BLACK ONLY signs up then either Doc. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@ Doc. if we leave out that this did all take a break then... but it does not now...then this site is totaly different THEN and NOW!!!!!!(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Thanks Marquerite, one does not have to be (any one but a tired and bored person)the first Black America's prophet to know that the prophet lies when he says, "...everyone is intitled to his or her opinion.." and,THAT IS A FACT(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
AND, BY THE WAY AS THERE IS MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT AS THE SAYING GOES...WE SHOULD ALL CUT AND PASTE THIS POSTED BY OUR FIRST BLACK AMERICA PROhET AT 1:09 on 1- 9-10 on (this blog) "...IF YOU DO NOT MIND ME SAYING SO I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE SOME WHAT CONFUSED. SO LET ME SAY AGAIN. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO HIS AND HER OPINION..."(smile)

move hugs and kisses for this blog my sister it is a blessing(smile) .'
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
I wonder if not deleting comments and still being 'accsued' of deleting said comments that are still there in plain sight for ALL to see is the same or even something just a part of the REAL WORLD will believe these lies????????


So sorry, but I am now going in circles(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
I must go to the last blog that the prophet took of topic to see if he has been run off of it???

He has to run when his name calling only gets him to show what else he is on these blogs for I must go around and post this latest one from the prophet about he is not promoting his Moses agenda..could our prayers in al different faiths and languages been answered in what Harry just said...

please, please, please don't delet ethis confession as one has to see it to be able to believe this coming from the first Black America's PROPHET...HELL I BELIEVE I MUST SEND A MESSAGE TO ALL BEFORE THE prophet DELETES HIM SELF AND BLAME YOU AGAIN MY SISTER.LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

lov ya RIGHT BACK AND CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU DO SO WELL MY SISTER.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
May "I" add aslo the powers of going on STRIKE against the offending blogs/bloggers???

I only suggest this, because a sane person tend to do more of the things that makes them happy than the other way around.(smile)

Me, "I" have chosen to change my own behavior in helping to keep these offending blogs and bloggers alive and well in this community ...I am not one hundred % in doing this as some times my emoions take over my good common sense...but "I" trust myself that this to will pass. Love the blog my sister and thanks.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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