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From The San Francisco Chronicle
February 4, 2012

The labels used to describe Americans of African descent mark the movement of a people from the slave house to the White House. Today, many are resisting this progression by holding on to a name from the past: "black."

For this group — some descended from U.S. slaves, some immigrants with a separate history — "African-American" is not the sign of progress hailed when the term was popularized in the late 1980s. Instead, it's a misleading connection to a distant culture.

The debate has waxed and waned since African-American went mainstream, and gained new significance after the son of a black Kenyan and a white American moved into the White House. President Barack Obama's identity has been contested from all sides, renewing questions that have followed millions of darker Americans:

What are you? Where are you from? And how do you fit into this country?

"I prefer to be called black," said Shawn Smith, an accountant from Houston. "How I really feel is, I'm American."

"I don't like African-American. It denotes something else to me than who I am," said Smith, whose parents are from Mississippi and North Carolina. "I can't recall any of them telling me anything about Africa. They told me a whole lot about where they grew up in Macomb County and Shelby, N.C."

Gibre George, an entrepreneur from Miami, started a Facebook page called "Don't Call Me African-American" on a whim. It now has about 300 "likes."

"We respect our African heritage, but that term is not really us," George said. "We're several generations down the line. If anyone were to ship us back to Africa, we'd be like fish out of water."

"It just doesn't sit well with a younger generation of black people," continued George, who is 38. "Africa was a long time ago. Are we always going to be tethered to Africa? Spiritually I'm American. When the war starts, I'm fighting for America."

Joan Morgan, a writer born in Jamaica who moved to New York City as a girl, remembers the first time she publicly corrected someone about the term: at a book signing, when she was introduced as African-American and her family members in the front rows were appalled and hurt.

"That act of calling me African-American completely erased their history and the sacrifice and contributions it took to make me an author," said Morgan, a longtime U.S. citizen who calls herself Black-Caribbean American. (Some insist Black should be capitalized.)

She said people struggle with the fact that black people have multiple ethnicities because it challenges America's original black-white classifications. In her view, forcing everyone into a name meant for descendants of American slaves distorts the nature of the contributions of immigrants like her black countrymen Marcus Garvey and Claude McKay.

Morgan acknowledges that her homeland of Jamaica is populated by the descendants of African slaves. "But I am not African, and Africans are not African-American," she said.

In Latin, a forerunner of the English language, the color black is "niger." In 1619, the first African captives in America were described as "negars," which became the epithet still used by some today.

The Spanish word "negro" means black. That was the label applied by white Americans for centuries.

The word black also was given many pejorative connotations — a black mood, a blackened reputation, a black heart. "Colored" seemed better, until the civil rights movement insisted on Negro, with a capital N.

Then, in the 1960s, "black" came back — as an expression of pride, a strategy to defy oppression.

"Every time black had been mentioned since slavery, it was bad," says Mary Frances Berry, a University of Pennsylvania history professor and former chair of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. Reclaiming the word "was a grass-roots move, and it was oppositional. It was like, `In your face.'"


Afro-American was briefly in vogue in the 1970s, and lingers today in the names of some newspapers and university departments. But it was soon overshadowed by African-American, which first sprouted among the black intelligentsia.

The Rev. Jesse Jackson is widely credited with taking African-American mainstream in 1988, before his second presidential run.

Berry remembers being at a 1988 gathering of civil rights groups organized by Jackson in Chicago when Ramona Edelin, then president of the National Urban Coalition, urged those assembled to declare that black people should be called African-American.

Edelin says today that there was no intent to exclude people born in other countries, or to eliminate the use of black: "It was an attempt to start a cultural offensive, because we were clearly at that time always on the defensive."

"We said, this is kind of a compromise term," she continued. "There are those among us who don't want to be referred to as African. And there also those among us who don't want to be referred to as American. This was a way of bridging divisions among us or in our ideologies so we can move forward as a group."

Jackson, who at the time may have been the most-quoted black man in America, followed through with the plan.

"Every ethnic group in this country has a reference to some land base, some historical, cultural base," Jackson told reporters at the time. "African-Americans have hit that level of cultural maturity."

The effect was immediate. "Back in those days we didn't talk about things going viral, but that's what you would say today. It was quite remarkable," said the columnist Clarence Page, then a reporter. "It was kind of like when Black Power first came in the `60s, there was all kinds of buzz among black folks and white folks about whether or not I like this."

Page liked it — he still uses it interchangeably with black — and sees an advantage to changing names.

"If we couldn't control anything else, at least we could control what people call us," Page said. "That's the most fundamental right any human being has, over what other people call you. (African-American) had a lot of psychic value from that point of view."

It also has historical value, said Irv Randolph, managing editor of the Philadelphia Tribune, a black newspaper that uses both terms: "It's a historical fact that we are people of African descent."

"African-American embraces where we came from and where we are now," he said. "We are Americans, no doubt about that. But to deny where we came from doesn't make any sense to me."

Jackson agrees about such denial. "It shows a willful ignorance of our roots, our heritage and our lineage," he said Tuesday. "A fruit without a root is dying."

He observed that the history of how captives were brought here from Africa is unchangeable, and that Senegal is almost as close to New York as Los Angeles.

"If a chicken is born in the oven," Jackson said, "that doesn't make it a biscuit."

Today, 24 years after Jackson popularized African-American, it's unclear what term is preferred by the community. A series of Gallup polls from 1991 to 2007 showed no strong consensus for either black or African-American. In a January 2011 NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, 42 percent of respondents said they preferred black, 35 percent said African-American, 13 percent said it doesn't make any difference, and 7 percent chose "some other term."

Meanwhile, a record number of black people in America — almost 1 in 10 — were born abroad, according to census figures.

Tomi Obaro is one of them. Her Nigerian-born parents brought her to America from England as a girl, and she became a citizen last year. Although she is literally African-American, the University of Chicago senior says the label implies she is descended from slaves. It also feels vague and liberal to her.

"It just sort of screams this political correctness," Obaro said. She and her black friends rarely use it to refer to themselves, only when they're speaking in "proper company."

"Or it's a word that people who aren't black use to describe black people," she said.

Or it's a political tool. In a Senate race against Obama in 2004, Alan Keyes implied that Obama could not claim to share Keyes'"African-American heritage" because Keyes' ancestors were slaves. During the Democratic presidential primary, some Hillary Clinton supporters made the same charge.

Last year, Herman Cain, then a Republican presidential candidate, sought to contrast his roots in the Jim Crow south with Obama's history, and he shunned the label African-American in favor of "American black conservative." Rush Limbaugh mocked Obama as a "halfrican-American."

Then there are some white Americans who were born in Africa.

Paulo Seriodo is a U.S. citizen born in Mozambique to parents from Portugal. In 2009 he filed a lawsuit against his medical school, which he said suspended him after a dispute with black classmates over whether Seriodo could call himself African-American.

"It doesn't matter if I'm from Africa, and they are not!" Seriodo wrote at the time. "They are not allowing me to be African-American!"

And so the saga of names continues.

"I think it's still evolving," said Edelin, the activist who helped popularize African-American. "I'm content, for now, with African and American."

"But," she added, "that's not to say that it won't change again."
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What most folks don't know is before Jesse Jackson took the term "African American" to a global level, Malcolm X was the first to coin the term.

Malcolm used the term "African-American" because he felt that blacks in the US were Africans trapped in America. Actually, I prefer the terms "African American" and "Black" in opposition to being called "Negro" or "*****"...
Saturday, February 4th 2012 at 2:28PM
Siebra Muhammad
All I can say is I'm not White, nor European-American, though my ancestors are from Europe, and before that, Africa.
Saturday, February 4th 2012 at 2:50PM
Steve Williams
What I am is kind of pink, so I would prefer to be called a Pink American thank you. But seriously, what's the difference between Black and the Latin for Black, which became the pejorative?
Saturday, February 4th 2012 at 3:03PM
Steve Williams
Irma you are correct of course. But on the level of our society, do we want an integrated society, and can we achieve that if we continue to categorize as in the census?
Saturday, February 4th 2012 at 3:16PM
Steve Williams
People often get nationality, race, and ethnicity confused because it's not properly taught (in most cases not taught at all) in the public educational system. I look at it this way:

1. Our NATIONALITY is American because we were born within the boundaries of America and we're citizens of this nation.

2. Our RACE is Negro if (and this is ONLY IF) you meet certain standards associated with being Negro (such as smoking weed, sleeping with a lot of women, having babies out of wedlock, robbing, stealing, and killing). It should also be pointed out that not all African Americans are "Negro" racially speaking.

3. Our ETHNICITY is African-American/Black because we are people of Black African descent who were separated from the continent (OUR homeland) of Africa for centuries and most of us know almost nothing of OUR homeland of Africa (or its practices). The people of Latin America are of African descent also and they are also African American/Black as well.

This is why I find it disturbing when I meet so many Puerto Rican and Dominican brothers and sisters who have ancestors in Africa yet they don't want to call themselves "Black" or "African American" and associate with us because of all the baggage they think comes with being called Black or African American....so they hang on to thier Latin heritage and culture and continue to identify with the Latino umbrella.
Saturday, February 4th 2012 at 4:52PM
Siebra Muhammad
I don't know about the rest of you but I am a NOUN, Therefore I can't be black because it is an adjective. I have look all over the maps, new and old and I have not found a country named BLACK. Therefore I am an American. If we are Black, we are A MAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY. My parents, grandparents and great grand parents and far beyond made sacrifices that grants me THIS land. Some of my ancestors were here before Columbus got lost. It was some of my ancestors that saved the life of the first interlopers, therefore I am an American, no qualifiers---unless we will all be African---white, black. grizzley , or gray.
Saturday, February 4th 2012 at 5:47PM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson
Very interesting, lots to think about here. Could it be integration is in the mind of the individual?
Saturday, February 4th 2012 at 7:47PM
Steve Williams
What I mean to say is when I integrate myself into society at large, it becomes integrated for me, on a subjective level.
Saturday, February 4th 2012 at 7:55PM
Steve Williams
And now we have the problems of the inner cities, but do we see this on a black/white basis? Poverty is poverty and I don't know if government can fix it for us. As you know I was turned down by Philadelphia Teaching Fellows for their program to teach in one of Philly's schools, no explanation given.
Sunday, February 5th 2012 at 12:01PM
Steve Williams
THE ORIGIN OF BLACKNESS by The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan:

"You and I are a people that walk in darkness. We are without form, and, we have been made void. Anything that is voided has no value. You throw it away.

You have been voided. You are not yet making history. You are inside the womb of America like a baby is in the womb of its mother, functioning off of White America's system, feeding from its system, while trying to develop a system of your own; but as you begin to evolve, it is not until you are free from White America that your Genesis will begin. That is why Moses is given in both Bible and Qur'an as the main man that the last man would be like. Why? Because you are a people like Moses' people.

You are a Black man that doesn't have any value. So, when they want to move you, they move you. When they want to kill you, they kill you. When they want to beat you, they beat you. When they want to raise you, they raise you, but always it is when they want to; and, it is only after you press and press that they give in.

It is like a baby growing in the womb. The mother may not want to give an inch but the baby may twist and kick its foot, and, if it kicks a nerve, the mother's legs may go out from under her. She didn't mean to lose her balance, but, it is that which is in her moving that is messing up her balance. So it is with you today. You are moving inside the womb of America. You are not yet free, but, your movement is causing trouble inside the womb, inside the nation. The White man is feeling the movement of the Black man because life is now coming into you and it is only a matter of time before we will all be free.

You may wonder: “Why am I Black?” Are you Black because you are cursed? Some of you have awakened and looked in the mirror at your Black face, your hair, your lips and you wondered to yourself, “Why couldn't I have come into the world White? Why did I have to be Black?”

The Bible teaches, “In the beginning...”—it does not tell you when that beginning was, but it is letting you know there was a beginning—“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep.” So darkness preceded light. Now let us take a look into this “darkness.”

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that, “The darkness that we see now is not real. When the night comes you are in the dark, but it is not real darkness.” How do you know? Because when the light comes, the darkness goes. Where did it go? It vanished. Why? Because it wasn't real in the beginning. The thing that is real is what produced the darkness.

If you go outside and let the sun strike you, if you are facing east the sun striking your body will send a shadow toward the west. When you look at the shadow you see this dark thing following you, but, that which is following you is not real. What is real is you. What is real is the sun, and, as the sun strikes you and you block that sun, you produce what is called darkness or a shadow.

When one side of the earth is in the light of the sun, the other side is in the shadow of the Earth. When you are in the shadow of the Earth, you call that night, but, the darkness is not real; it is produced by the motion of the Earth in relationship to the sun. What kind of darkness was that when there was no sun, when there was no moon, when there was no star? That is the darkness that is beyond the diameter of sunlight.

At the wall of the universe where light does not go beyond it, there is darkness. That darkness is not a shadow. That darkness is real. When scientists talk about a black hole, they are not talking about some unreal shadow. They are talking about real darkness, and, real darkness contains a power.

There is a power out there that is always bringing new objects into view. Stars are dying and stars are being born. That power that is out there is bringing new objects out of darkness that is real into light. The darkness of the womb is not a shadow; that is real darkness. The Holy Qur'an calls it “triple darkness.” It is layers of darkness, but, in that darkness is the power to create life. In that darkness there is the germ of light. That is why any Believer in Allah (God), no matter how dark the day seems, no matter how dark the trouble is that you think you are in, yet, in that darkness there is light, and, there is life if you hold on and do not let the darkness overtake you until your mind becomes as dark as the darkness that envelops you.

The power of darkness is that it can create you after itself. For example, sometimes we get in a bad spirit. We may liken it to darkness. A gloom comes over the mind because of a thought that we are thinking, real or imagined, and, then that thought begins to reflect itself in our skin. It begins to reflect itself in our posture—our shoulders begin to droop, we do not feel good. What happened? A thought that is in your brain is remaking you according to the darkness of that thought. So, you become as dark and as gloomy as what is in your mind.

So, it is with the real darkness that was in existence before there was light.

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said to us that, “An atom sparkled in the darkness and God began to create Himself out of the material of the darkness.” The Honorable Elijah Muhammad is telling us that matter was there but the matter was doing nothing. It had no form, aim or purpose until an atom sparkled in the darkness.

Look at you, Black man and woman. Allah (God) said you are created in His image and after His likeness. How did you start? From a tiny life germ, the one that impregnated the egg that you cannot see with the naked eye, that is how infinitesimally small that sperm was. That is how infinitesimally small the egg was, but, that sperm with a little tail and a head had some intelligence in it because it knew where it wanted to go and it knew what it wanted to do.

In the dark that sperm found the egg and the first cell of life began in darkness, but, the cell had a light of itself—electricity inside the cell, a neutron, a proton and an electron. The cell of life was like an atom. The light of itself caused it to start rotating around the light of itself and it began breaking down and building up.

We do not know how long it took for brains to form in the darkness, but, the first thing that forms when a baby is conceived in the womb is not the tail. The first thing that forms is the head. It is the head that calls the arms into existence, the feet into existence, and, the organs into existence.

When you didn't even have thought, before you could think there was an intelligence working in you that is the Light of Allah (God), the Power of Allah (God). Even before the growth of intelligence in the darkness, we were being fashioned out of a tiny life germ—sperm mixed with ovum. We were called into existence by what was in that tiny sperm, the head of it, and, at the end of nine months, we came forth knowing nothing, but, with a capacity to learn everything.

So, when the Holy Qur'an, in Surah 112, says, “He neither begets nor is He begotten.” The first God was the Originator of Himself. He was not begotten. The One that comes in the end does not beget. He does not need a son from His loins. He produces a nation from the wisdom of His mouth. He fashioned Himself out of darkness. We learn how environment can influence heredity; therefore, we must be careful what environment we put ourselves in because no matter what is in you of good, if you are in the wrong environment, that environment can affect the good that is in you and turn you into itself.

Who is the Original Man? Are you Black because you are cursed or are you Black because you took your color out of the darkness out of which the First Life came? Since we agree that environment influences heredity, if the real darkness before there was sunlight had matter in it that was real, how then could the God make Himself up in darkness and come out white? If He made Himself up out of darkness and the darkness covered Him, then, the God who originated the heavens and the earth is a Black God. This is what the Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught us. The question that has to be asked is, “Is this a made-up teaching,” or, “Is this Divine Revelation?”


Sunday, February 5th 2012 at 3:15PM
Siebra Muhammad
It doesn't matter how much Black African ancestry you have or how light or white you are, as long as you have ANY Black African ancestry and are born in America then you are African American/Black. Period.


Sunday, February 5th 2012 at 3:18PM
Siebra Muhammad
Good reading Siebra, thanks.
Sunday, February 5th 2012 at 9:33PM
Steve Williams
I'm far more proud to identify with our Black African people, for the fact that we've had great fighters against colonialism in Africa. It was our people from Africa who inspired the Dravidians (the only black people in Asia that I know of) to rise up. It was our people from Africa who inspired the black people of Iraq.

I don't know of a people, greater than Black-African people, and I don't know of a continent on earth that is greater than Africa.
Monday, February 6th 2012 at 11:40AM
Siebra Muhammad
In the first place, "black" people were put here first. If the stories in the Great BooksS are true, the garden was in a warm climate because the people were naked and the garden was lush and green. Geograhically ithe area had to be warm. Then everybody drowned accept one family so they had to be the same people (race) if you will. My brothers and I are the same race; my father and mother and their siblings are the same "race "too.

The intelligencia agrees that the hu man on this planet has the same DNA. and that DNA was found in Africa. So technically, we are all from Africa. If one traces human migration out of Africa, one will find that first man all over the earth migrated from Africa and that man was "black". The first europeans were black. ("What They Never Told You In History Class".0

So, to say that American Blacks had no ancestry that made any contribution to anything is a lie stuffed down the throats of Hu man to elevate white suprimacy. Hu man taught the world. All that man knows and has known was created and taught by hu man. Jesus, if he existed and Mohammad, if he existed were hu men too, MEN OF COLOR, BLACK IF YOU WILL).

The MAN OF COLOR "BLACK MAN" in america, came here with a heritage, culture, language, a God, and laws they lived by before the ones who brought them here got out of the caved and ate cooked meat. Those people's ancestors were "Black" too, they lost the pigmentation because they did not need it the colder climates without sun. Their mutation was a survival mecaniism to protect them from the ice and cold and the animals they had to fight.

It doesn't really matter how little "Black" you have in you, all Hu Man came from the same place. This distinction of "black and white" was created by those who sought to establish white supremacy. Frances Cress Welsing said" if you don't understand white supremacy, nothing else will make sense to you."
Monday, February 6th 2012 at 12:02PM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson
I agree...
Monday, February 6th 2012 at 12:14PM
Siebra Muhammad
Or should we say, European supremacy?
Monday, February 6th 2012 at 12:25PM
Steve Williams
Throughout history technology creates power.
Monday, February 6th 2012 at 12:28PM
Steve Williams
Steve,
I continue to use "White Supremacy because the two words do not identify a people but an ideaology. To, the words refer to those people who hold to that ideaology not a group of people who may have a pale skin. For a long time, I wasn't aware that people did no understaand that I was not talking about Caucasians. Those of the pale presuasion who do not uphold that belief and fight against it are not the people of whom I speak. All of them have been moved above that lot or were never in the sack with them in the first place..
Monday, February 6th 2012 at 3:02PM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson
Steve,
Unfortunately, that idealogy still prevails ; it is a live and well. It is amazing how many people forgot who got us in the war and who was in the White House eight years before President Obama. It is also amazing how many have forgotten the prsident who was resonsible for breaking and entering and who had to resignbecause of it. Along with the Supremacy is selective memory.
Monday, February 6th 2012 at 3:07PM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson
I see what you're getting at Thomasena. But that brings to mind a question, if we are dealing with an ideology and not skin tone. To what extent has President Obama broken with White Supremacy?
Wednesday, February 8th 2012 at 12:40PM
Steve Williams
Steve,
The eletion of Present Obama definitely makes a loud and resounding statement about the crumbling of that idealogy. However, there are still the Rush Limbaughs and the like who still believe that no matter how intelligent the man of color is, he is less intelligent than a so called white man. There are some BLACKS who also adhere to the same philosophy. The bread in the white store is fresher, the mechanic does a better job, the gas for the car is better and the teachers are smarter. Then there are those who believe that a black mam mixed with white blood , like the president, is somehow more acceptable because of his white blood and there are those who believe the President is white because his mother was. I had a white man tell that the president was white and that is why he won. So I asked him "if my father's mother was white, did that make him white?" He stumbled over his tongue and turned red. This same man was at my home trying to sell me a roof for my house after the hail storm.

So, all of the people who voted for our President were no longer , if they ever were, in the pot of Supremacy, only the red states, and a few others here and there. If it were not so, why do so many have selective memory of the previous 8 years and refuse to recognize the accomplishes of the immediate past 3?

Progress has been made but we have miles to go before we sleep. There are NEGROES who are white supremacy. Don't forget, I grew up in an all black town and I could tell you some real stories.
Thursday, February 9th 2012 at 10:46AM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson
Me "I" will just continue to identify with all of my proud BIA history and will do as Minister Farrakhan says and never, ever break my ties with the Mother land , Mother Africa. (smile)

"I" AM BLACK AND I AM BEAUTIFUL...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@AMERICA(NS) I DO BELIEVE THE FALSE NOTING OF THIS NATION HAS BEEN "INTEGREATED' IS ONE OF THE BEST CONS EVER PULLED ON AMERICA AND THE REST OF THE PLANET...CAN WE SAY TEAPARTY AS IN THE KKK WITHOUT WHITEHOODS? JIM CROW IS NOW JUAN CROW...'WE ARE NOW SUFFERINGS FROM THE 'INTERGRATION OF THE 'WHITEHOUSE'...

EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!! BECAUSE PROPER EDUCATION IS THE ONLY MAGIC BULLET AGAINST ALL OF THIS 2012 : HATE, FEAR AND FOOLISHNESS...
(S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Steve when I refere to intergration as I just did, I mean how the "We want the right to attend a-n-y public school of our choice got turned into "We want to attent (White) schools with brand new text books schools, GYMS, HEAT, LUNCH ROOMS, ECT."...

WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH WAS ANOTHER FORM OF SEGRATATION ONLY IT WAS CALLED "BUSSING"...IN THE SAME WAY (CHATTEL)SLAVERY GOT CHANGED INTO 'SHARE CROPPING'. (NUP / SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Me, because "I" take ownership of all of my BIA history..."I" have chosen to still say, "*****"...

and mainly because I have been called "*****" many times and never have I been called, "THE N WORD". (S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Steve until we begin to admit how saying, "AMERICA IS A CHRISTIAN NATION IS ONLY ABOUT ABUSING RELIGION IN ORDER TO CAUSE "DIFFERENT IS DEFICIENT"...

INTERGRATION CAN ONLY BE USED FOR ONE PURPOSE (AS IT IS USED SO SUCCESSFULLY IN BRAINWASHING MANKIND) TO MAKE ONE'S CULTURE NULL AND VOID ALONG WITH ITS USE AS A SURVIVAL TOOL. (SMILE)

YOU SEE WE ALL SEE THE REAL WORLD THROUGH THE EYES OF OUR CULTURE WHICH CONSISTOF: MORAL, LEGAL, SOCIAL, POLITICAL, ECONOMIC, NATURAL RULES AND RITUAL WE ALL USE IN OUR DAILY LIVES...WHICH CHANGES / MUTATES ALL THE TIME OR MANKIND PARISHS...IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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