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My youngest nineteen year old child Erica started attending church with her new half-breed boyfriend and now she is convinced that she is a sinner. She's a virgin, no police record, doesn't drink, smoke or curse. It's like someone came along and snatched her brain right out of order. The White pastor at the church told her that if she didn't join that her relationship with the boyfriend wasn't going to work out. What should I do to get her back on track and convince her that she isn't a sinner?
Posted By: Helen Lofton
Sunday, August 18th 2013 at 6:52PM
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You missed the point Irma. My Child is in denial about Black people still suffering prejudice from the affects of slavery, because she herself hasn't experience people mistreating her. She is more concerned about the treatment that her mixed friend told her he suffered growing up in an all White family and community. I haven't attended church because I prefer to attend the Kingdom Hall if I go.
Monday, August 19th 2013 at 4:16AM
Helen Lofton
Here is where you failed Helen! Train up a child in the way her aught to go and when they become grown they will not depart from it.

You are ignorant Helen!

Monday, August 19th 2013 at 7:15AM
Harry Watley
Are you now following the Christian bible Harry?
Monday, August 19th 2013 at 11:33AM
Steve Williams
Helen,

If she's not too far gone yet, you could point out the many inconstancies in the bible.

The main one being that God gave us reason, and eternal hellfire is an unreasonable concept if ever there was one.

Monday, August 19th 2013 at 11:41AM
Steve Williams
Helen, may I suggest, that you attend the next church service with your daughter and her boyfriend. It would give you the opportunity to question the pastor one-on-one. And Helen, surely you know that racism is alive and well in Christianity, on both sides of the pew[Black & White] christians. And Helen, the term "half-breed" is for animals, not humans.
Monday, August 19th 2013 at 12:06PM
Earl Brown
The young man is 21 years old and a youth minister at the church. The first time that he took my daughter to his service. They stayed afterwards so he could introduce her to the pastor, who immediately told her that she was naïve because of her mother. Like all pastors he told everyone during service about his past corrupt life. Anyway, ever since then she has been acting disrespectful and like she knows more about the bible than anyone. I've tried rationalize bible stories to her, (that man doesn't wish to explain s*x to his young children so he always puts a stork or something in to substitute the deed). Her boyfriend Brandon is using his influence over her. I told her that he has no Black identity because his opinion about Blacks is that our dancing and music leads to s*xual overdrive.
Monday, August 19th 2013 at 5:29PM
Helen Lofton
@ Helen,

I think you and your family should attend a service and meet the pastor. Try to find out as much as you can about the organization and its history as well as any background information about the pastor.

You want to know of he's been to seminary or accredited school, if he's committed any criminal offences or been arrested.

Try to find out what you can and steer clear of trying to convince your daughter about church stuff as it will only draw her closer to that cult she's attending.

The objective of a cult is to divide and isolate the individual in order for the organization to have complete control to brainwash them.

Be praying and fasting on her behalf to be freed from that young guy and that organization.


Monday, August 19th 2013 at 5:52PM
Jen Fad
..."A cult is often a small, newly started religious movement. Cults have beliefs or practices that many people think of as being odd, or that have practices that most people in the world do not practice. More than that, cults have often been led by people who are not elected, and control the group according to their own wishes.

Some cult leaders have been dangerous criminals (Charles Manson; Peoples Temple) or even lunatics. Killings and mass suicides have occurred in cults (Order of the Solar Temple; Heaven's Gate). Of course, a "suicide" enforced by armed guards carrying sub-machine guns (Peoples Temple; Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God) is a suicide in name only; in fact it is a most terrible crime. ...

Mind control...

The following methods have been used in some or all cults studied:
People are put in physically or emotionally distressing situations;
Their problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly emphasized;
They receive what seems to be unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a charismatic leader or group;
They get a new identity based on the group;
They are subject to entrapment (isolation from friends, relatives and the mainstream culture) and their access to information is severely controlled. http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult

Cult Concern FAQ. How To Get Out. - Welcome to HOLYSMOKE.ORG
www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/cultout.htm Cached
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/cultout.htm


Monday, August 19th 2013 at 6:02PM
Jen Fad
@ Earl,

..." racism is alive and well in Christianity, on both sides of the pew[Black & White..."

You betta say it!




Monday, August 19th 2013 at 10:27PM
Jen Fad
I do think that she is being manipulated, but I can't understand how a person with a 3.9 grade average can let mental slavery take over her minds. I just found out that she was baptized at the pastors house in his swimming pool(lol--lord have mercy!) I told her that all churches interact with each other and if they didn't have a baptismal pool at the church, the other churches would let them use their. I don't want to cause a scene at the church, but I know where the boyfriend lives and I intend to pray into his neighborhood. Thanks for all your advice.
Monday, August 19th 2013 at 10:32PM
Helen Lofton
@ Helen,

...You missed the point Irma...

Yep ignorant ole Irma does mix the point(s) a lot, but she can't help her ignorant ole self!


Monday, August 19th 2013 at 10:32PM
Jen Fad
@ Helen,
..." I just found out that she was baptized at the pastors house in his swimming pool(lol--lord have mercy!)...

Say What...You betta STOP playing~Ha! Now I believe I've heard it all. Was it a kiddy pool?!


Tuesday, August 20th 2013 at 1:58AM
Jen Fad
Helen,

It happens more than you know. These cults are led by religious fanatics with mental health problems. Usually they are narcissists, sociopaths, or psychopaths with lots of charisma. What do you think of the folk in Hollywood getting hooked up with the Church of Scientology?

When I was studying nursing, there were people who were sent to the campus to hang out during each Freshmen enrolment just to recruit new members to their cult/church. I mean you'd think these people were students. I remember seeing this one girl all over campus. She would be in he library, in the gym, in the dorm study room, ect,... She was friendly and so she invited me to a service that was at the time being held this Holiday end.hotel conference area/room. I thought that odd, but these people have an explanation for everything.

Anyway she was too, clingy and wanted me to hangout with her and only people from the her church. I just didn't have time to hang out, because nursing school had all my attention. I remember not long after that our hall resident advisor had a in service on cults and invited the campus chaplain to speak about what constitute a healthy and unhealthy organization. Another freshmen on my hall had gotten involved with the same church and was almost gone if it hadn't been for her mom who got suspicious that when she spoke with her daughter she either wasn't in her room or she was always talking about this church. Her mom came up to the school and pulled her out for a week or two to un brain wash her!


The girl was in tears when she was recounting he experience, because she said that the cult was taking up all her time and her grades had started to fall.



Tuesday, August 20th 2013 at 2:20AM
Jen Fad
You both make very good points. I have to act normal and not argue with her about it. The boyfriend was raised by his grandmother because his mother died from drug use and he never knew about his Black father's whereabouts until he died last year. I realize that he wants to feel accepted by Blacks but I can tell he feels out of place when he's around us. When I told him about the bible saying to honor thy mother and father, he thought that was a catholic phrase. My daughter should have recognized then that he didn't even know the Ten Commandments .
Tuesday, August 20th 2013 at 9:12AM
Helen Lofton
@ Helen,

Is the grandmother still living?

.


Tuesday, August 20th 2013 at 2:40PM
Jen Fad
The reason a 21 year old is more interested in dating younger girls is because they expect less from the relationship. He still lives with his grandparents. Part-time college student with a part-time job. I told my daughter that she is just his church date because they see each other twice a week to attend church. He lives about fifteen miles away, which is his good excuse for not seeing her more often. I would hate to tell you how they met!
Tuesday, August 20th 2013 at 4:27PM
Helen Lofton
Helen how did they meet?


Tuesday, August 20th 2013 at 10:38PM
Jen Fad
How they met is a sad story. He was her Black girlfriends date at the high school prom, she didn't have a date because she was a new student at the school. He tracked her down on facebook and wanted to become her friend. I've been trying to convince her that nothing good will come from this type of relationship. The girlfriend is a member of the same church and hasn't been attending lately.
Tuesday, August 20th 2013 at 11:30PM
Helen Lofton
For what good reason to you dislike this young man? And, Ms. Jen said that there is racism in Christianity on both sides of the pew!

Since Ms. Jen sees racism in Christianity it should tell her that Christianity is not Black America’s true religion. There is no racism in Judaism among the Jews whom the religion belongs and there is no racism in Islam since Islam truly belongs to the Arabian people. And, there can’t be any racism in our religion LIFE because this religion truly belongs to us Black Americans.

So, since Ms. Jen sees racism in Christianity it should tell her stupid-ass that is a good enough reason that Christianity belongs to the European Gentiles.

Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 9:06AM
Harry Watley
@ Helen,

I see. Is it possible to get in touch with your daughter's girlfriend? One recommended strategy is to speak with ex- members to gain information about the group's leader, practices, and belief.


Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 9:51AM
Jen Fad
Also you can find out what happened between her and the guy.


Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 9:51AM
Jen Fad
Harry,

There is racism in Judaism. Did you see the blogs/videos about refuges from Africa living in Israel that the "pure" Jews hate and are now deporting?

Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 11:08AM
Steve Williams
Steve,

I said that there is racism in Christianity. You are not trying to understand me. You and many others are always in attack mode towards me.

Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 12:30PM
Harry Watley
@Helen
Of course I recognize this is a family matter. I perceive that your daughter is voicing why is she being called a sinner by the pastor. Yet she has feelings that are amiable toward the young man which she quite truthful that she wants to keep seeing him. Since the pastor has given her advice the relationship won't work out, I believe it because he may be indicating they are unequally yoked because the young man {is possibly a member of the church he attends] and your daughter isn't. The pastor is wanting your daughter to become a member of the church in order to be saved. Now, as far as I can understand your daughter isn't brainwashed but is not clear on why she's being called a sinner? I think perhaps the daughter and even the boyfriend need to give a more accountable reason of zoning in on the relationship they have. The pastor has obviously confused her in having her think she's not a bad person but that she is a sinner. Possibly, He hasn't given her specfics of being saved and or; a commitment for her soul's atonement. I recommend that your daughter have the pastor give her in more detail why she's being considered as a sinner. There is some indication that the doctrine the pastor has given her make requires more prevelant examination in which your daughter has not understood. I think the situation requires some clarification so she will understand the pastor's viewpoint and if she will choose to become a member of the church. Thereby, the equally yoked relationship in the view of her joining is why the pastor might of said the relationship wouldn't workout. Get more details of the doctrine and of course. Follow the WORD.
Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 2:52PM
MIISRAEL Bride
BTW: Your daughter is young, and in a very emotional expressive time of her life. Give her responsible credit of reasoning to determine she can make sound decisions without influences of others--but those of God can make her life valuable. She wants a sound relationship, and one that is equally yoked of course is better. Have her look at pros and cons of where the relationship is going. She can think it through ...and give her time to consider a review of herself as God to be her guide most of all.

Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 3:17PM
MIISRAEL Bride
@ Miisrael,

I hear what you're saying, but joining church is not the same as Salvation. Church doctrine isn't to be used over bible basics for which it appears this immature and unqualified pastor is doing.

I really don't think Helen's daughter should be in this organization posing as a church. It's none of the pastor's business about equally yoked or not. His job (if he were a real pastor) is to preach salvation rather than church membership which is the main objective of this so called church. He's looking to prey on he's looking to prey on Helen's daughter and anyone else for monetary gains to enrich his own purse.

Besides, Helen didn't mention that her daughter was engaged to be married so why is the pastor all up in these kids personal business? Unless he's looking to make the guy a pastor (with a wife) and set up other churches in the State.

I've seen and heard to much in my lifetime where bubble gum and store front churches are concerned and this is not a legitimate organization. It's a cult in my opinion and Helen is acting on her God given motherly instincts. She nows this is a set up from the get up.


Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 4:01PM
Jen Fad
In these sat days, we aren't to be deceived and led astray. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.


Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 4:04PM
Jen Fad
@ Jen,

Yes, of course there are many things from what Helen has indicated that throws up a red light. I can only guess that the preacher is wanting more membership growth. Salvation may be very well why he is telling her she's a sinner, but how he is applying that toward her daughter has caused confusion; and the purpose could very well be unjustly from a good origin. One will not know as you stated unless it is understood the preacher's purpose. I do agree and think that caution should be used in Helen's input of her daughter's well being-- which is why I think to find out more details of what is being told, and to clarify the actions of the pastor's statement. I agree, action is needed and both of them will eventually have to go face to face be willing to find out more. Like you said so many times people can be easily deceived if they are not cautious to investigate a false following. Overall, I think we have basically voiced similar opinions
Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 7:47PM
MIISRAEL Bride
How can you stupid women claim you know something about the Bible but you really don’t know anything about the Bible? If you knew the Bible and haven’t seen Dr. King, Elijah Muhammad, the KKK and plantation slavery written as you see the crucified Jesus then you should know the Bible has nothing to do with us Black Americans.. If you can show Black Americans in the Bible then you know the Bible.

If any of you know anything about the Bible you should be able to show me where we Black Americans are written like the Children of Israel and the Romans.

You dump people that have eyes but can’t see!

Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 8:26PM
Harry Watley
Harry,

You said "There is no racism in Judaism among the Jews".

I said you are wrong. Am I right?

Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 10:20PM
Steve Williams
@ Miisrael,

Thank you for being so very graceful and polite, but you do realize I called the organization a cult. Ha! I shoot straight from the hip and have no tolerance for nonsensical heretics parading about as churches. This is the main thing I have against Protestantism; too many fakes. Anyway, to each it's own.


Wednesday, August 21st 2013 at 10:21PM
Jen Fad
Thank you Jen, your advice was the best. I have found out that the accreditation of the pastors are untrustworthy. Now the only way I can get my daughter to see the truth is to convince her that her boyfriend didn't know himself what was going on. I really appreciate you help.
Thursday, August 22nd 2013 at 12:41AM
Helen Lofton
Steve,

How many times have I said to you that you just can’t say that I am wrong? You have to show by an example that I am wrong so I and every one else will see that I am wrong if you think that I am wrong, stupid!

I said there is no racism in Judaism because Judaism came specifically to and for the Jewish people and other people like some Ethiopians.

I am not just simply saying that there is no racism in Judaism. I am moving forward to show and prove the there isn’t any racism in Judaism STUPID and you have to do the same to be creditable.

The fact that Ms. Jen sees racism in Christianity is because Christianity do not belong to her because she not a European Gentile woman. Stupid-ass Ms. Jen is a Black American woman.

Thursday, August 22nd 2013 at 3:20AM
Harry Watley
@ Helen,

I know right! Every pastor now is either a Bishop or Dr so yep the theology schools aren't creditable a lot of times. I wish you all the best and I'll keep your daughter in prayer.


Thursday, August 22nd 2013 at 6:55AM
Jen Fad
@Jen,

I understood you called it a cult. I only felt too, more investigation was required, but seems as if Helen has found out more and disclosed their purposes. AND With that I'm glad for her. I hope it all works out well. We know there are again false people claiming goodness who come like angels, but have only evil in mind. In Christ we have to remain combative. Helen has considered your advice as best. Thankful.
Love you Jen :>)

Thursday, August 22nd 2013 at 8:11AM
MIISRAEL Bride
No Harry, no one can say you are wrong. See a therapist.
Thursday, August 22nd 2013 at 1:45PM
Steve Williams
@ Steve,

Amen!!!!


Thursday, August 22nd 2013 at 2:23PM
Jen Fad
(Lol).....

@ Miisrael,

I know; you're very patient. I'm on the other hand am a totally different story altogether! Ha! Plus, I have personal experience from how these people turn sincere people away from wanting to know God and His Saving Grace made available through Jesus and His Redemptive Plan. We aren't to tolerate them which is why I don't bother mincing my words. Helen is a parent and would do whatever is necessary within her might to protect her daughter from predators as would any parent. We all must do what we feel convicted of in our hearts regardless to what any other person says. I know I would.



Thursday, August 22nd 2013 at 2:28PM
Jen Fad
Besides, who performs baptisms in a personal pool?! Ha!


Thursday, August 22nd 2013 at 2:29PM
Jen Fad
What does performing baptism in a personal pool has to do with the purpose and significant of baptism?

If baptism is done in a personal, private or a local lake or river what difference does it makes when the purpose and significant of baptism is being up held?

Friday, August 23rd 2013 at 1:27AM
Harry Watley
Hold up wait a minute! The story has reach a climate. After letting my daughter review all the false information on the covenant Christian church pastor, she and her boyfriend still decides to attend. The place from which the pastors got their degrees was from the Destiny School of Ministry which according to the Better Business Bureau only received it's accreditation in December of 2010.

I confronted the boyfriend when he came over to pick her up Thursday evening and while we were arguing he tell my daughter to tell me how she feels unloved because I don't hug and tell her I love her more often. Apparently she's seen one of her white friends family behave in this manner and thinks that the way we should behave. I'm sorry, I didn't' t have any ideal that she was suffering from love sickness. When I was growing up, we didn't hear all that I love you stuff coming from our parents, but I knew whenever my mother looked at me and smiled that she loved me.

It's like she intentionally chose that church name because I used to say the word coven means the church was full of witches.
Friday, August 23rd 2013 at 11:46AM
Helen Lofton
Good pt. Helen! Stay aware!
Friday, August 23rd 2013 at 12:15PM
Earl Brown
Earl, what happen to "The truth will make you free". Her boyfriend is running the show-- for now(lol)
Friday, August 23rd 2013 at 4:01PM
Helen Lofton
@ Helen,

Your daughter's boyfriend must be a real looker, eh! Sounds like she's smitten.


Friday, August 23rd 2013 at 6:30PM
Jen Fad
Helen, My late Grand-mother gave some very insightful information. She said.." A lie will outrun the truth for awhile...but the truth always catches up..and those props come falling down"... Look for that bolt of lightning truth. It will come!
Friday, August 23rd 2013 at 6:43PM
Earl Brown
Helen,

Your daughter is like her mother and this is how. Helen you say that, ‘The story has reach a climate. After letting my daughter REVIEW all the false information on the covenant Christian church pastor, she and her boyfriend still decides to attend”.

Well, Helen after I’ve shown you false information that the Jewish Jesus can not lead you to God because the Jewish is not from us and we are not from him you still decides to follow behind the Jewish people and their prophets.

I think that if you change yourself first your daughter will change. Intelligence and the way you and the rest of us think make a lot of different as we move ahead.

Usually when a good point is made that over shadows everything else that point is always over looked and that is because we are ignorant people.

Friday, August 23rd 2013 at 10:54PM
Harry Watley
OOPS, I MENT DON'T GO TO THE PREACHER WITH YOUR DAUGHTER BEING PRESENT...ASK HIM TO HELP YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND HIS RELIGION'S HISTORY SHOULD BE THE FIRST ONE...A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN BE CHANGING A RELIGION TO SUIT THEM AND AS A RULE THE SEEKING MONEY IS THE BEST CLUE NEXT IS DEDICATION IS IT TO THE CHURCH OR TO THE PREACHER IS ANOTHER MAJOR CUE. (SMILE)

BUT NEVER STOP TRUSTING YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ALL OF YOU DAUGHTER'SLIFE THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STAGE AND CHANGE ALWAYS COME WITH RESISTANCE AS IT IS A PART OF TH EUNKNOW...WE ALL FEAR THE UNKNOWN. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
HELEN, I GREW UP IN AN AGE WHERE RELIGION AS WELL AS SOCIETY ATUGHT ONE IS SELFISH, A SINNER IF THEY LOVED THEM SELFS ...BUT HELEN THIS DIDNOT STOP MY MOM FROM TALKING WITH ME NOT AT ME...AND I STILL LOOK AT ALL SIDES OF AN ISSUE. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
HI HELEN, AN INTERESTING BLOG. AND I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU?...
1. WHAT IS OUR PRREIDENT?...
2.WHAT WOULD GOD DO /SAY IF A NOTHER PREACHER AND OF THESAME RELIGIOUS DENOMINATION OF YOUR FAITH SAID THESAME THING TO YOUR DAUGHTER SAY IF SHE WENT TO COLLEGE SAY IN ANOTHER STATE? NO LETS SAY 3 THINGS...
3. GOD FORBID, BUT WHAT IF A TARNADO HIT AND DISTROYED YOUR CHURCH AND YOU HAD TO ATTEND A CHURCH AND THE PREACHER SAID THE SAME THING TO HER IN THENEW CHURCH?


NOWHELEN WHAT I AM GETTING AT IS I BELIEVE THE CHURCH IS GOD'S HOUSE AND ALL SHOULD BE WELCOME EVEN WOTHOUT PUTTING CONDITIONS ON HOW MANY MEMBERS THE PREACHER CAN BRAG ON HE HAS IN HIS CHURCH OR HOW MUCH MONEY IN THE COLLECTION AND I SA THIS BECAUSE I LOVE TO ATTEND THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WHEN THEY HAVE MANY CHIORS SINGING ABOUT TWICE A YEAR...IF I FELT UNWELCOME BECAUSE I AM CALLED A SINNER FOR COMING TO GOD'S OUSE AND I WOULD NOT BE A SINNER IF I JOINED, I WOULD ASK THE PREACHER SOMETING AS DUMB AS I BELIEVE HIS CONCLUSION IS...

I WOULD ASK HIM IF I JSOINED DO I REALLY HAVE TO ATTEND CHURCH SERVICES SINCE I HAVE A GUARENEED PLACE IN HEAVEN WITH GOD BECAUSE I AM NOT A SINNER? YOU SEE HELEN, I AM A NDB BUT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE TEACHING S OF THE BIBLE I NEVER VIOLATE ANY OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS NOT EVEN HAVING A BUDDA GOD. (SMILE)

HELEN YOUARE SPECIAL TO ME AND YOUR CHILDREN ARE SPECIAL TO ME BECAUSE THEY TAKE SUCH GOOD CARE OF YOU...REMEMBER THE CIGARETTES DEAL THEY MADE WITH YOU ?LOL!!!...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
YOU WILL DOTHE RIGHT THING FO RYOUR CHILDREN HELEN AS YOU HAVE NOT JUST STARTED TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR CHILDREN TWO DAYS AGO...KEEP DOING FOR YOUR DAUGHTER EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ALL OF HER LIFE...SHE WILL BE JUST FINE...I AM SURE YOU HAVE TAKEN YOUR CHILDREN INFOR SHOTS AND WAS TOLD, "IT IS GOING TO HURT YOU MORE THAN THEM...WELL LOOK AT IT AS JUST THIS EXCEPT SHE IN NOT 18 NOT HAVINGHER 6 WEEK CHECK WITH THE DOCTOR. OK?...

NOW MAY I NOW SAY SOMETING T THE BACK STABBER...YOU KNOW MY DAUGHTER IS A JEHOVAH WITNESS AND AFAIN YOU TALKE EVERY CHANCE TO SAY YOUR CONTEMPT OF BLACK WOMEN RAISING THEIR CHILDREN ALONE!!!LIVE WITH IT AND MAY ONE DAY YOU REALLY LEARN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE SAID BY CHRISTIANS, GOD SAYS,...

"LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I HAVELOVED YOU" ON THIS GOD AND I HAVENOT MISSED HIS P-O-I-N-T!!!LOL!!!(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@HELEN DO YOU HAVE ANY FAMILY MEMBERS TO HELP OR HAVE YOU LET THEM KNOW? (SMILE)...

YOU SEE IF YOU GO TO THIS PREACHER WITH YOUR DAUGHTER BEING PRESENT HE CAN MAKE YOU THE ENEMY ESPECIALLY IF YOU DAUGHTER IS NOT LISTENING TO YOU TO BEGIN WITH SOYOU WILL BE LEAVING YOUR SELF WIDE OPEN TO BECOMING THE ENEMY#1. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
NOW THAT I HAVE CALMED DOWN A LOT...GOING TO THE KINGDOM HALL IS NOT BEING A PART OF A CULT...SINCE THE CHURCH HELEN'S DAUGHTER GOES TO CA NVERY WILL BE A CHURCH OF YOU FAITH JEN AND I NOTICE HOW ALL OF TIS CUTL BULL CAME AFTER THIS IS MENTIONED...BACK STABBING ND TRYNG TO HELP IS NOT BY JUST BRINGING IN RED MEAT TO BE AGAINST ANOTHER'S RELIGIOUS CHOICES, AT LEAST ME AS I ONLY HOLD MY OWNSELF RESONSIBLE FO RMY ACTIONS...I RESPECT ALL RELIGIOUS CHOICES. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@JEN, AGAIN THANKS AS YOU COMMENT ABOUT GETTING THIS YOUNG LADY AND BRAINWASINGHER OUT OF THE CULT AND THE MOVIE STARS SHOULD GO TO HELP HELEN KNOW TO KEEP ON DOING WHAT SHE HAS BEEN DOING WITH HER DAUGHTER...

YEARS AGO A LOT WAS HEARD ABOUT THE GETING YOUR CILDREN KIDNAPPED BY THESE SPEICLIST WHO COULD GET YOUR CHILDREN BACK HAS A LOT WITH THEY IN JEN'S OWN STATE HER GOVERNOR JUST MADE THIS 'RELIGIOUS BELIEF ILLEGAL TODAY...AND WHY WE HAVE NOT HEARD FOR YEARS ABOUT THIS KIDNAPPING AS IT WENT THE EWAY AS AKING YOUR CHILDREN UNGAY VIA THESE SPECIALIST!!!

AS FAR AS TH EMOVIE STARS GO THEY CAN'T BRINGIN NEAR AS MUCH MONEY AS THOSE RELIGIONS THAT HANG OUT AT AIR PORT ON STREETS BEGGIING FOR CONTRIBUTIONS SO THEY CAN PUT PURE GOLD ON THEIR PLACES OF WORSHIP NOT GOLD PAINT. (SMILE)

AMERICA IS A LAND WHERE DIVERSITY INRELIGIONS IS A HUMAN, LEGAL RIGHT. ..ADULTS TEND TO NOT TAKE TOO KINDLY TO PEOPLE TELLING THEM WHAT IS GOOD, NOT GGOD FOR THEM.(SMILE)...

@JSN, CHANGE YOUR RELIGIONIT IS A CULT AND IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU...NOW WATCH HER NOT SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH IRMA FOR LOOKING OUT FO RMY BEST INTEREST!!!...JEN WILL BE DOING HUMAN BEHAVIOR SO WHY SHOULD YOU DAUGHTER NOT BE EXPECT AS A HUMAN NOT HAVE HUMAN BEHAVIORS?!? LOL!!!(SMILE)...

IN TRUTH HELEN MY DAUGHTER CAME AS CLOSE AS SHE DARED TO GET MY 'APPROVAL' TO BECOME A JEHOVAH WITNESS...SHE KNOW IF SHE HAD ASKED ME HOW SHOULD SHE LIVE HER OWN LIFE, SHE WOULD HAVE HELL TO PAY FROM ME...I DID NOT RAISE HER TO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO WHAT MADE HER FEELSAFE,HAPPY BEING HER.(SMILE)...

THERE IS AN OLD SAYING, I LOVE TO USE..."YOU WILL NOT SIT ON PURPOSE ON A RED HOT STOVE BUT ONCE" !LOL!!!(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@JEN, PLEASE GET OVER YOUSELF...MY COMMENT IS NOT ABOUT YOU IT IS MORE AGAINST ME FOR BEING A DEVOTE MEMBER FO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AS THEY PROMOTED, SUPPORTED AND ALL IN GOD'SNAME 50 YEARS OF RAPEOF OUR MOST PRECIOUS GIFTS FROM GOD AND WE LIMIT OUR SELVES TO CHARLES MANSON...NOT ONE MEMBER OF HIS CLAM MURDERED OVER TWENT CILDREN IN LESS THAN 10 MINUTES OF PUT BULLETS IN THAT CHILD 10 YEARS AFTER HER BIRTH ON 9-11 OR CONDEMNED OUR PRESIDENT FOR ATTENDING HER MEMORIAL..AND JENIT WAS YOU NO TME COMINGIN YOUR GOD'S NAME TO CONDEMN THE PARENTS OF TRAVONMARTIN FOR SEEKING AN ARREST OF TH EPERSON WHO KILLED THIER UNARMED CHILD AS THE RESULT OF PROFILING HIS AS BEING A BLACK MALE THERE FORE A CRIMINAL WHO DID NOT BELONG IN LEST SAY A NEIGHBORHOOD A CENTUREY AFTE THE WHITE ONLY, BLACK ONLY HAD BEEN MADE ILLEGAL IN AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NUP!!!)

AND, BESIDES SINCE HELEN HAS NEVER MENTIONED A FATHER OF THE CHILDREN...WELL JEN WE KNOW YOUR BELIEFS ABOUT WHAT HE CHILDREN OF A MOTHER LIKE THIS AND THEIR ONLY PRUPOSE IN AMERICA IS...NOW DON'T WE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????!!!!!?? (NUP!!!)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
DOES ANY ONE CALL THE CATHOLIC CHURCH A CULT?!? DO WE NOT CALL TH EPOLITICAL PARTY THAT TOOK THOSE CILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS IN TX. BECAUSE THEY DID NO TLIKE THE RELIGION THEIR PARENTS PRACTICE WENOT CALL THE PARTY OF CHRISTIANFAMILY VALUE NOT TOMENTION IT ISJUST FINE TO KILLOUR CHILDREN IN AMERICA SCHOOLS OR SCHOOLS IN EH MIDDLE-EAST NOT VIOLENT NOT TERORIST ACTS SO LETS NOT GO THERE ON LETS CHECK OUT THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS HELL BY THE TIME THEY GET INVESTIGATED PASS THE COVER-UPS OUR CHILD MAY BE DEAD OF SUFING WHAT WE ALL THE STOCKHOME SANDROME WHICH MEAN TURING AGAINST THE PARENT, THOSE TRYING TO PROTECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(NUP!!!)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@JEN, AGAIN THANKS...
GRANDMOTHER=ELDER=MOTHER CENTERED CULTURE. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
PEOPLES NO MATTER THE RELIGION, SKINCOLOR, STATUS NEED FOOD , WATER AND SHLETER...THINGS MOTHER NATURE ALWAYS NEVER, EVER FAIL TO NOT PROVIDE FOR A-L-L OF MANKIND...(EQUALITY)

PLEASE GIVE THIS A ONCE OVER AS A THOUGHT. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
HELEN IF THEY ARE NOT ON SOME KIND OF TECH INSTRUMENT THESE YOUTH OF TO DAYUSE ALMOST ALL DAY TO STAY IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER THEN MAYBE THIS IS NOT EVEN A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP AT ALL? (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...THIS YOUNG MAN'S WROKING PART TIME AND ATTENDING COLLEEGE PART TIME SHOWS HE HAS SOME GREAT SURVIVAL SKILLS. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
NOW SINCE SOME STATES SAY AT 18 YOU ARE AN ADULT...AND IF MY CHILD LIVED IN MY HOME, I WOULD IF I DID NOT TRUST MY DAUGHTER OT BE ABLE TO PROTECT HER SELF FROM DANGER THAN I WOULD DO SO...TIS IS WHAT FAMILY COURT IS FAR IT IS TO PORTECT THE 'FAMILY' AND I WOUL GET A PROTECTION ORDER FOR MY FAMILY...BUT THEN WE MUST ALWAYS REMEMBER WE CAN ONLY RUN ONE LIFE AND THAT ISOUR OWN!...

BUT, THEN HELEN I AM ONE WHO HAVE ZERO TOLARANCE OF DISRESPECT ESPECIALLY IN MAY HOME AND I AM NOT GOING TO FEED SOMEONE TO GET ENERGY TO DISRESPECT ME IN THE FIRST PLACE...REMEMBER THE DIALOGUE ON TOUGH LOVE...I DO NOT LOVE MY CHIKLDREN ENOUGH TO WATCH MUCH LESS HELP THEM TO SELF DISTRUCT...I AM SAYING THIS TO SAY WHO LOVES YOUR CHILD ENOUGH TOGIVE HER FOOD, AND SHELTER EVEN DOWNTO YOUR DAUGHTER?!? JUST OFFERING THINGS TO TINK ON AS I ALWAYS LIKE TO STEP ITO THE OTHERS SHOE IS WHY IMANTIONED. STEP INTOHER SHOES AND SEE IF SHELOVES SELF ENOUGH TO OFFER THE ONLY THINGS NEEDED TO SURVIVE??? (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
HELEN, MY ADVICE AND ONLY AS ONE WHO(HAS BEEN A TEEN) IS A MOTHER/ PARENT...THE PEOPLE THAT TEENS BELIEVES KNOWS ANY THING ABOUT LIFE IS SURELY NOT THE ONES WIT H THEIR BEST INTEREST AT HEART.LOL!!! (SMILE)...

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES AS PARENTS HOW WE LOOKED AT OUR OWN PARENTS AT A YOUNG AGE AS THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THESE INTO OUR LIVES...

EXPERIECNE IS THE BEST TEACHER...
TIME HEALS ALL WOUNDS. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
HELEN HOW DOES THE WHITE PASOTR FIT INTO WHAT YOU SAY IN THE THEME OF THE BLOG...THE THEME MAKES IT SEEM TH EPASTOR IS SPEAKING NOT THE MIXED BREED!...
AND HELEN SINCE THE PLACE OF WORSHIP THE MY FAMILY MEMBERS ATTEND IS CALL KINGDOM HALL ARE JEHOVAH WITNESS........AT LEAST IN MY MIND'S EYE THERE ISMORE INVOLVED HERE THAN SKINCOLOR. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
LETS SEE WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING WHATKIND OF FAITH IT IS AT THIS CHURCHOR IF IT IS 5 DAYS OLD OR 500 YEARS OLE, ITS NAME EVEN ...
OH WELL...
WHO NEEDS INFO TO CONDEMN SOMETING, SOMEONE IF A HINT OF DIFFERENT THAN MINE? (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

sorry I missed this --- your New Beautiful Peacock Picture attracted me....

We pray that all is well with your Daughter-------

Life gives us SO many experiences and the idea that in 2014 a young African AMerican Female is Pure and has a caring Mother is A GREAT American Family Experience and Accomplishment


Monday, May 26th 2014 at 9:58AM
powell robert
Lol






Monday, May 26th 2014 at 10:07AM
Jeni Fa
Robert,
My beautiful daughter has changed since the night of her prom, when she caught the eye of her girlfriends prom date. She goes to a predominantly white church where they treat her like she's special privilege, so that makes me look like the villain when I say anything about Black History.
Monday, May 26th 2014 at 11:05AM
Helen Lofton
Helen,

You are us back into stupid-**** again, why?
Please tell your child that since prophets your have no business with the Jewish Jesus.
Monday, May 26th 2014 at 7:59PM
Harry Watley
@Helen,

Your daughter is still smitten, huh! Let her have her biracial Prince Charming because she deserves to be the apple of his eye and receive princess like treatment by the predominantly White congregation.



Tuesday, May 27th 2014 at 8:09AM
Jeni Fa
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