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When Jonah was thrown overboard was he dead or alive
Posted By: Sylvainy R
Thursday, October 2nd 2014 at 4:04PM
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alive when he was swallowed up hole by a great fish.
Thursday, October 2nd 2014 at 4:26PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis

Not only that Jonah was alive inside the great fish he also prayed a prayer as the story goes.


Thursday, October 2nd 2014 at 6:48PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.

your title? The story of Jonah a whale

and then your sosoNESS asks ---- When Jonah was thrown overboard was he dead or alive?

was Jonah a small whale on a big boat, or a plane?

was Jonah a whale captured by whalers and befriended on board and thrown back rather than hacked?

was Jonah hacked by Japanese Whalers who took his meat and through overboard his guts, etc...?


Thursday, October 2nd 2014 at 7:33PM
powell robert
@ powell robert
Really Robert???
Thursday, October 2nd 2014 at 7:36PM
Sylvainy R
@ Deacon Ron Gray
Then does this mean the pophecy of Matthew 12:40 is fulfill
Thursday, October 2nd 2014 at 7:41PM
Sylvainy R

Brother SoSo,

YES...

Let us substitute great fish instead of whale because I couldn't find nowhere in my Bible where that is stated, OK.

That's just one of the lies that I've heard for all my life.





Thursday, October 2nd 2014 at 8:30PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
@ Deacon
I don't understand your last post
Thursday, October 2nd 2014 at 10:59PM
Sylvainy R
Hello to all!

You all are a panel of idiots trying to interpret and understand the Jewish Scriptures without a rabbi on the panel! You all are stupid, big time!

Why don’t you all leave the Jewish people alone and let us talk about our selves and our future?

I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way for Black Americans to ever become a real people in God’s creation.

Thursday, October 2nd 2014 at 11:08PM
Harry Watley
@Soso

Matthew 12:40

Breakdown "Son of Man" ?????

40. For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Thursday, October 2nd 2014 at 11:26PM
Yaiqab Saint
@ Soso

I know you are here.
I expect you to break it down in parabolic form.....
Let's see how brilliant you are???
Thursday, October 2nd 2014 at 11:40PM
Yaiqab Saint
Brother SoSo,

What part of my answer that you did not understand?


Friday, October 3rd 2014 at 1:21AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Brother Ron: I understood. What a great answer.
However, I feel the blog question was one full of futility..


Friday, October 3rd 2014 at 7:06AM
MIISRAEL Bride
The son of man means mortal, compare Ezekiel 2:1. Why does Matthew 12:40 say three nights and three days when it turned out to be two nights and two days?
Friday, October 3rd 2014 at 7:32AM
Steve Williams

Ezekiel 2:1New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

The Vision of the Scroll
2 He said to me: O mortal,[a] stand up on your feet, and I will speak with you.

Footnotes:

Ezekiel 2:1 Or son of man; Heb ben adam (and so throughout the book when Ezekiel is addressed)

Friday, October 3rd 2014 at 7:37AM
Steve Williams
, I feel the blog question was one full of futility..


Friday, October 3rd 2014 at 7:06AM
MIISRAEL Bride

I agree with MIISRAEL, but the blog title is full of a nonREADING, racistlyIgnorant sosoEnglish speaker


Friday, October 3rd 2014 at 8:11AM
powell robert
@ Deacon
Are you saying yes to the question tothe pophecy of Matthew 12:40 being fulfill?? ?

Friday, October 3rd 2014 at 11:58AM
Sylvainy R
@ Steve Williams
Your words: "The son of man means mortal, compare Ezekiel 2:1. Why does Matthew 12:40 say three nights and three days when it turned out to be two nights and two days"

Steve, my sentiment are the same I agree with you here is the big question WHO IS LYING ??? Is it
three nights and three days or two nights and two days booth can't be right
Friday, October 3rd 2014 at 12:08PM
Sylvainy R
To All:

Before one makes an opinion of the Biblical scriptures he must understand it in terms of the Hebrew experience which the scriptures are a set of commandments, statutes, and laws given to Israelites ONLY!

So if your ancient father's are not Israelites the law does not apply to you and you can be an Atheist or just don't believe ? "The Most High" does not care !

For correction "son of man" does not mean any 'mortal man' or neither does it refer to Messiah (Jesus/ Yahawahshi) .

According to modern Hebrew text/Babylonian the phrase "son of man" appears over 100 times in the Hebrew Bible and the majority of the use was in the Book of Ezekiel.

However the reference appears in the Book of Daniels too.

The "son of man" are simply the {righteous of the nation of Israel (the elect/saints} versus the {unrighteous /disagreeables or 2/3rds of Israel }.

Jonah was cast into a "big fish" which allegorically means he was subdued and worn-out.

However he ultimately escaped and a similar reference in the Book of Daniel with the saints as follows:

Daniel 7: 23-28:

. 23. Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. 24. And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. 25. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. 26. But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. 27. And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him. 28. Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.


Now the fourth beast reference in this chapter is the New Holy Roman Empire which is America and Western European nations or NATO and the Roman Catholic Church which gives power to the fourth beast.

The Vatican has the largest stock holding of equities in the world as a single entity.

The saints are reference as the "son of man" and there is a significant difference between them and the "Sons Of The Most High/Yahawah), they are all the angels including Lucifer that works for the "Most High" (on the left hand side or wicked) and the 12 Elders. They are the first fruits of the "Most High's creation.

To truly understand who (Jesus/Yahawahshi) is for another discussion because it will shock most people because they don't understand regeneration or re-incarnation very well in the biblical text.

So in conclusion as Jonah was tested by the "Most High" by being cast into a "big fish" and being subdued the saints (son of men) will be tested in the heart of the earth by the beast like nations described wonderfully in the Book of Revelations.

And for the Israelite women that means females too, so don't get it twisted!

In the end the Most High will take way their (Pagan World Powers/Governments) dominion over the world and establish a new righteous order.

Some Modern Christian scholarship assign this to the Messiah (Jesus/Yahawahshi) as they ascribe Saul (Paul of Tarsus, Turkey) as being the inventor of Christianity which is a lie.

Whether is two days or three days is irrelevant !

In the biblical scriptures you must have understanding of the Hebrew language, knowledge of nations, geography, history, and decipher the allegory meanings in the text.

But you have to be part of the "ELECT" to truly understand the meanings.

The two thirds of Israel (unrighteous) will be redeemed in the "Righteous Kingdom" and their spirit will be corrected as they come back in the regeneration they will do righteousness via the power of the Most High.



Friday, October 3rd 2014 at 2:08PM
Yaiqab Saint
So-called Black Americans, West Indians, Latinos, and Native America Indigenous people were tested and subdued in the past and present time.

Slavery, Jim Crow, Mass Murder, Placed on Reservations, and the modern day plantation system that keeps them poor and generally powerless.
Friday, October 3rd 2014 at 2:15PM
Yaiqab Saint
Saint,

Black Americans who are descending a plantation slaves has a clear and decisive origin! Black Americans are racially different from Latinos, Native Americans and West Indians. Black America’s origin is rooted in plantation slavery while none of the others you mentioned were plantation slaves.

Since Black Americans are racially different from Native Americans Black America’s f prophet must be and is a Black American and not anything else!

On the other side the Jewish Jesus that you claim was a Caucasian man! Jesus’ descendents are the people today in the state of Israel. The practice of the ritual Passover by them is proof that those people are the descendents of the biblical Jewish people and no one else.

It baffles me that we are the only people that wants to be other people. What the hell is wrong with being you?

Saturday, October 4th 2014 at 1:24AM
Harry Watley
The saints are reference as the "son of man"

Show me where Jake.

Adam was mortal and the son of Adam is mortal. Jesus was mortal and this is what is meant when he refers to himself that way.

You can't show me where it means the elect because there is nowhere that is given as the meaning.

Saturday, October 4th 2014 at 1:43AM
Steve Williams
I will not go back and forth with you trying to deviate the fact that Adam or Jesus (Yahawahshi) were in mortal form.

Now the phrase "son of man" , "on like a son of man" used in the Hebrew Bible it is a form of address to human beings. However the promise to Abraham that Israelites will be the elect of the "Most High" to usher in the Righteous Kingdom is a fact.

It's in the scriptures!

Once again you must be evolutionary in the scriptures. The other nations are not excluded from the "Righteous Kingdom" on earth, however they will be supervised by the "Israelites" to do righteousness.

All wars will end and any opposition to righteousness will not be tolerated !

Now we are dealing with the scriptures during Daniel & Ezekiel times when this term (son of man) was used.

Not Adam or even Jesus because one had died and the other was not born as a mortal.

The everlasting covenant was established with Abraham so it must be viewed in that context.

Now let me deviate to the Similitudes of Enoch. The Enochic messianic figure is an individual representing a group, ( The Righteous One who represents the righteous, The Elect One representing the elect.

This is classic Hebrew thought which the laws, statutes, and commandments were written for ISRAELITES ONLY!

Now the word "Saint" was mentioned which that word was not in existence when the Books of Daniel, Ezekiel, Psalms were written.

That word came into existence in the early 12 Century., from the Old French saint, seinte "a Saint; a holy relic, displacing or altering Old English sanct, both from Latin sanctus "holy, consecrated" (used as noun in Late Latin), the same meaning in Spanish (santo,santa), Italian (san/sancire), Dutch (sint), German (sanct).

The word "son of man" was commonly referenced with the word "ELECT" that existed when Ezekiel and Daniel wrote in Ancient Paleo-Hebrew text.

The word "son of man" & "ELECT" did exist in Paleo-Hebrew language.
Here is the proof:

1. Son= Ban nb
2. Of= Shal lv
3. Man= Ahyash
4. Elect=Bachaayar

Both Daniel, Ezekiel, and David where prophets and messengers for Israelites no other nations and the fore mentioned words were used in context and interpretation of the promise given to Abraham since he kept the "Most High's" statutes, laws, and commandments, therefore the Most High stated that the Children of Israel will be chosen above all nations.

The Most High is true to his words. Remember the phrase when the "Most High stated: "If my words fail then Heaven and Earth shall perish" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That is not my words it's in the scriptures.

So if you follow the chronology of events in the scriptures rather than "coming out of your own head" there is no confusion.

Besides why do you feel the need to correct me as being an Israelite knowing the scriptures well and your Atheist???

Perhaps to let the so-called black sistahs know that the "Boss man" cannot have a so-called black man speak with truth and knowledge??????

I'm not going to play your simple game of creating confusion when there is no need for confusion.

Just know that the word "SAINT" is used interchangeably with the word "ELECT" for modern times.

Saturday, October 4th 2014 at 2:03PM
Yaiqab Saint
@ Yaiqab Saint
Your words “The other nations are not excluded from the "Righteous Kingdom" on earth, however they will be supervised by the "Israelites" to do righteousness”.
The others will be supervised by the "Israelites" Yaiqab Saint You have been drinking too much Manischewitz Wine on Fridays it has addle your brain or whatever is left of it

Tuesday, October 7th 2014 at 1:33PM
Sylvainy R
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