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Turnabout is fair play. They shouldn't have focked with Maria Butina.
Wednesday, January 2nd 2019 at 6:33PM
Steve Williams
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The story you've concocted has no basis Ron. Butina was coerced and the Russian government has every right to retaliate. I do not support FARA, not for Butina or anyone else. You spread far more propaganda Ron, than Butina does. YOU should be required to register as a propaganda agent.
Wednesday, January 2nd 2019 at 10:10PM
Steve Williams
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You are full of BULL💩 Steve and you know it to be true.
By your commit Steve, you sound like you was in support of Maria Butina, well are you?
I wonder how far The Russians would have gotten it they Maria Butina and The NRA was not BUSTED?
Are you REFUTING the roll the NRA played in this back channel arrangement Steve?
Wednesday, January 2nd 2019 at 10:24PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I continue to support Butina Ron. I do not have access to the information claimed by the U.S. government but I have associated with the NRA for about 40 years now and we are more patriots than any of our enemies. So when it comes to whether I believe the NRA or the deep state left wing media, I of course stand with the NRA.
Wednesday, January 2nd 2019 at 10:46PM
Steve Williams
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You remember May 29, just last year the public knew that The Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Republican Chuck Grassley of Iowa, released a report which stated, among many other things, that “The Kremlin may also have used the NRA to secretly fund Mr. Trump’s campaign.
Now you are going to tell me, in the face of this documented evidence that the Kremlin may also have used YOU, as a NRA member, don't bother you, at all?
Wednesday, January 2nd 2019 at 11:36PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I'll wait for the proof Ron.
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 12:40AM
Steve Williams
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There will be no proof that Russia made campaign contributions through the NRA. NEVER.
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 10:26AM
Steve Williams
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At the time of this report, Maria Butina – Ms. Butina is a Russian national living in the U.S. who has strong ties to the National Rifle Association and worked as an assistant to Alexander Torshin, the Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of Russia. The Committee has requested an interview and documents related to efforts by Mr. Torshin to arrange a meeting between President Putin and then-candidate Trump and possible use of the National Rifle Association (NRA) by Russia to contribute money to the Trump campaign. Despite testifying before other Committees, Ms. Butina refused to cooperate.
FOUND ON PAGE 18 of this Report. Steve, you couldn't have read this report and overlooked this section of this report.
Russia’s Connection to the National Rifle Association
The Committee has obtained a number of documents that suggest the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign. Two individuals involved in this effort appear to be Russian nationals Alexander Torshin and Maria Butina.
Mr. Torshin is a Putin ally and the Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of Russia,125 and Ms. Butina served as his assistant. She also founded Right to Bear Arms, the Russian equivalent of the NRA, and started a business with former Trump supporter and adviser Paul Erickson.
126 Both Mr. Torshin and Ms. Butina have longstanding ties to ex-NRA president, David Keene, and in 2013, hosted him in Russia for a pro-gun conference.127
During the campaign, Mr. Torshin, Ms. Butina, and their intermediaries repeatedly offered the campaign back channels to Russia and relayed requests from President Putin to meet with Mr. Trump. The Kremlin may also have used the NRA to secretly fund Mr. Trump’s campaign.
128 The extent of Russia’s use of the NRA as an avenue for connecting with and potentially supporting the Trump campaign needs examination. Requests for documents and staff interviews have been sent to Ms. Butina, Mr. Erickson, and Mr. Keene, but they have refused to cooperate.
This part of the report is found on page 21 of this report which BLOCKS that LIE you told of "There will be no proof that Russia made campaign contributions through the NRA. NEVER."
Reference points:
125 Tim ****inson, “The Trump-Russia-NRA Connection: Here’s What You Need to Know,” Rolling Stone (Jan. 18, 2018).
126 Tim ****inson, “Inside the Decade-Long Russian Campaign to Infiltrate the NRA and Help Elect Trump,” Rolling Stone (Apr. 2, 2018); Peter Stone and Greg Gordon, “FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump,” McClatchy (Jan. 18, 2018).
127 Tim ****inson, “Inside the Decade-Long Russian Campaign to Infiltrate the NRA and Help Elect Trump,” Rolling Stone (Apr. 2, 2018).
128 Peter Stone and Greg Gordon, “FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump,” McClatchy (Jan. 18, 2018).
The Evidence that the NRA was willfully used by the Russia for your review.
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 12:14PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The Name correction is Tim D* ickinson.
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 12:18PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The NRA was willfully used by the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign. That means that you was used to work for Putin and not the interest of The People of The United States of America.
Who would do such a thing as a American, to work against the people of The United States of America?
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 1:51PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You're a funny guy Ron.
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 4:14PM
Steve Williams
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I am not laughing at all Steve and I have never been clearer. Divert your attention back to this Russia’s Connection to the National Rifle Association part of this report. Did you read this evidence in this report yet, Steve?
The NRA was willfully used by the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign. That means that you was used to work for Putin and not the interest of The People of The United States of America.
Who would do such a thing as a American, to work against the people of The United States of America?
You was used by Putin, for his will. Are you O.K. with that?
Congressional hearings into the possible use of of right-wing front groups by the Kremlin would certainly be appropriate. Meanwhile, the NRA revelation raises a serious problem for politicians who have received money and/or support from the NRA.
No one is suggesting that any candidates who benefited from the NRA’s largesse knew of Russia’s alleged infiltration; however, now that significant questions have been raised about the origin of campaign money, any candidate who received NRA support, I would argue, has at least a moral obligation to give the money back.
Those who have gotten the coveted “A” rating from the NRA should think twice about touting the stamp of approval from a group that wittingly or unwittingly allegedly helped in essence launder Russian money. Opponents of the NRA-backed candidates would be foolish not to demand that they give their NRA money back — perhaps in rubles.
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 4:54PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I certainly approve of Putin backing Trump.
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 4:56PM
Steve Williams
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YOUR COMMENT: I certainly approve of Putin backing Trump. Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 4:56PM
At what cost Steve? What do Trump owe Putin now?
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 5:05PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Trump doesn't owe Putin a thing. Why would he Ron? If Putin preferred to see Trump as President, and I have no reason to not believe him, it was for the same qualities we who voted for him had observed.
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 6:25PM
Steve Williams
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YOUR QUESTION: Trump doesn't owe Putin a thing. Why would he Ron?
MY REPLY: It has been reported In 2008, Donald Trump Jr. — the GOP nominee’s son and the VP for Development for The Trump Organization — told attendees at a real estate conference in New York City that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
This is what Trump Jr. said out of his own mouth Steve. Why would he say that, if it was not true?
Now as Americans need to know how much money has poured into The Trump Organization from Russia and from whom. Sergei Millian, the president of the U.S. Russian Chamber of Commerce and friend of Trump, claims in 2016 the figure is in the hundreds of millions.
WOW!!! Hundreds of Millions, Steve, don't you want to know how much money Trump owes Putin?
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 7:26PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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No Ron, I don't NEED or WANT, to know how much. That is your obsession.
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 8:02PM
Steve Williams
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MY REPLY: It has been reported In 2008, Donald Trump Jr. — the GOP nominee’s son and the VP for Development for The Trump Organization — told attendees at a real estate conference in New York City that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
This is what Trump Jr. said out of his own mouth Steve. Why would he say that, if it was not true?
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 8:07PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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So what Ron? You are the coveter of Trump's riches, not I.
Thursday, January 3rd 2019 at 9:36PM
Steve Williams
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This is what Trump Jr. said out of his own mouth Steve. Why would he say that, if it was not true?
Friday, January 4th 2019 at 12:20AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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