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The 1820 census built on the questions asked in 1810. The age questions were the same, except for the addition of a 16 - 18 years category for males.

The number of free White males and females aged, respectively:

under 10 years of age
of 10 years but under 16 years
of 16 years but under 18 years (for males)
of 16 years but under 26 years (for males)
of 16 years but under 26 years (for females)
of 26 years but under 45 years
45 years and upward

The number of male and female slaves aged, respectively:

under 14 years of age
of 14 years but under 26 years
of 26 years but under 45 years
45 years and upwards

The number of free colored males and females aged, respectively:

under 14 years of age
of 14 years but under 26 years
of 26 years but under 45 years
45 years and upwards

Number of foreigners not naturalized

Number of persons (including slaves) engaged in agriculture, commerce, and manufactures

https://www.census.gov/history/www/through_the_decades/index_of_questions/1820_1.html
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1820 Overview

1820
Census Day was August 7, 1820.
James Monroe
James Monroe was President of the United States
on Census Day, August 7, 1820.
Authorizing Legislation

The fourth census was taken in accordance with the census act of March 14, 1820, which required more detailed population-related inquiries than earlier enumerations. This census is notable for being the first to inquire if respondents were engaged in agriculture, commerce, or manufacturing.
Enumeration

The enumeration began on the first Monday of August. Its scheduled six-month completion time frame was extended by about seven months to September 1, 1821. As in previous decades, the 1820 census act again required assistant marshals to visit every dwelling house, or head of every family within their designated districts.
Data relating to manufacturing were collected by assistants in each district, sent to the marshals, and then transmitted to the secretary of state along with the population returns. The report on manufacturing presented the data for these establishments by counties, but the results were not summarized for each district and the aggregate statement that was released was based on incomplete returns. The 1820 manufacturing census suffers the same criticism as that in 1810: Poor enumerator training resulted in dramatic variations in data quality and accuracy.
Further Information

A wide variety of historical statistics from this and other decades is available in Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970. It is available as a PDF [74.4MB] or 2-part ZIP file: Part I [52.2MB] | Part II [66.1MB].
Reports and statistics from the 1820 census
History and Growth of the United States Census: 1790-1890 [PDF 117MB], by Carroll D. Wright and William C. Hunt.
A printable version of this page can be downloaded here [PDF 55KB].

https://www.census.gov/history/www/through_the_decades/overview/1820.html

Thursday, July 11th 2019 at 2:31PM
Steve Williams

I am probably the worst BIA, pc technology guy.....as usual …..links get me nowhere

……...Hopefully all my pc info is not now known again to all Humans or Robots on Earth....

I just wanted to know...3 things

1. Were native americans censused?

2. Were African Asian slaves censused?

3. Was Mrs. Sarah "Sally" Hemings-Jefferson included in Census 1790-1820?


Friday, July 12th 2019 at 9:33AM
robert powell
Based on this definition:

census (n.)
1610s, in reference to registration and taxation in Roman history, from Latin census "the enrollment of the names and property assessments of all Roman citizens," originally past participle of censere "to assess" (see censor (n.)). The modern use of census as "official enumeration of the inhabitants of a country or state, with details" begins in the U.S. (1790), and Revolutionary France (1791). Property for taxation was the primary purpose in Rome, hence Latin census also was used for "one's wealth, one's worth, wealthiness." Related: Censual.

I think that the answer is,

1. Probably the census takers did not ask any questions of native Americans.
2 and 3, I think yes. Of course the 3/5 rule was applied, and I would have to research how Sally Hemmings was determined in 1820.


Friday, July 12th 2019 at 10:57AM
Steve Williams
Sally Hemings was enslaved her entire life I see.

Friday, July 12th 2019 at 11:06AM
Steve Williams
A better question is when did the U.S. stop asking that question of citizenship?

When Did the U.S. Census Stop Asking About Citizenship? https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/04/02/census-stop-asking-citizenship/


Friday, July 12th 2019 at 11:53PM
Deacon Ron Gray
An even better question is why President Trump, with his new Executive Order, is compiling citizenship DATA for 100% of the United State's population, to supplement the 2020 Census?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-collecting-information-citizenship-status-connection-decennial-census/

Ensuring that the Department has available the best data on citizenship that administrative records can provide, consistent with law, is important for multiple reasons, including the following.

First, data on the number of citizens and aliens in the country is needed to help us understand the effects of immigration on our country and to inform policymakers considering basic decisions about immigration policy. The Census Bureau has long maintained that citizenship data is one of the statistics that is “essential for agencies and policy makers setting and evaluating immigration policies and laws.”

Today, an accurate understanding of the number of citizens and the number of aliens in the country is central to any effort to reevaluate immigration policy. The United States has not fundamentally restructured its immigration system since 1965. I have explained many times that our outdated immigration laws no longer meet contemporary needs. My Administration is committed to modernizing immigration laws and policies, but the effort to undertake any fundamental reevaluation of immigration policy is hampered when we do not have the most complete data about the number of citizens and non-citizens in the country. If we are to undertake a genuine overhaul of our immigration laws and evaluate policies for encouraging the assimilation of immigrants, one of the basic informational building blocks we should know is how many non-citizens there are in the country.

Second, the lack of complete data on numbers of citizens and aliens hinders the Federal Government’s ability to implement specific programs and to evaluate policy proposals for changes in those programs. For example, the lack of such data limits our ability to evaluate policies concerning certain public benefits programs. It remains the immigration policy of the United States, as embodied in statutes passed by the Congress, that “aliens within the Nation’s borders [should] not depend on public resources to meet their needs, but rather rely on their own capabilities and the resources of their families, their sponsors, and private organizations” and that “the availability of public benefits [should] not constitute an incentive for immigration to the United States” (8 U.S.C. 1601(2)). The Congress has identified compelling Government interests in restricting public benefits “in order to assure that aliens be self-reliant in accordance with national immigration policy” and “to remove the incentive for illegal immigration provided by the availability of public benefits” (8 U.S.C. 1601(5), (6)).

Accordingly, aliens are restricted from eligibility for many public benefits. With limited exceptions, aliens are ineligible to receive supplemental security income or food stamps (8 U.S.C. 1612(a)). Aliens who are “qualified aliens” — that is, lawful permanent residents, persons granted asylum, and certain other legal immigrants — are, with limited exceptions, ineligible to receive benefits through Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid, and State Children’s Health Insurance Program for 5 years after entry into the United States (8 U.S.C. 1613(a)). Aliens who are not “qualified aliens,” such as those unlawfully present, are generally ineligible for Federal benefits and for State and local benefits (8 U.S.C. 1611(a), 1621(a)).

The lack of accurate information about the total citizen population makes it difficult to plan for annual expenditures on certain benefits programs. And the lack of accurate and complete data concerning the alien population makes it extremely difficult to evaluate the potential effects of proposals to alter the eligibility rules for public benefits.

Third, data identifying citizens will help the Federal Government generate a more reliable count of the unauthorized alien population in the country. Data tabulating both the overall population and the citizen population could be combined with records of aliens lawfully present in the country to generate an estimate of the aggregate number of aliens unlawfully present in each State. Currently, the Department of Homeland Security generates an annual estimate of the number of illegal aliens residing in the United States, but its usefulness is limited by the deficiencies of the citizenship data collected through the American Community Survey alone, which includes substantial margins of error because it is distributed to such a small percentage of the population.

Academic researchers have also been unable to develop useful and reliable numbers of our illegal alien population using currently available data. A 2018 study by researchers at Yale University estimated that the illegal alien population totaled between 16.2 million and 29.5 million. Its modeling put the likely number at about double the conventional estimate. The fact is that we simply do not know how many citizens, non-citizens, and illegal aliens are living in the United States.

Accurate and complete data on the illegal alien population would be useful for the Federal Government in evaluating many policy proposals. When Members of Congress propose various forms of protected status for classes of unauthorized immigrants, for example, the full implications of such proposals can be properly evaluated only with accurate information about the overall number of unauthorized aliens potentially at issue. Similarly, such information is needed to inform debate about legislative proposals to enhance enforcement of immigration laws and effectuate duly issued removal orders.

The Federal Government’s need for a more accurate count of illegal aliens in the country is only made more acute by the recent massive influx of illegal immigrants at our southern border. In Proclamation 9822 of November 9, 2018 (Addressing Mass Migration Through the Southern Border of the United States), I explained that our immigration and asylum system remains in crisis as a consequence of the mass migration of aliens across our southern border. As a result of our broken asylum laws, hundreds of thousands of aliens who entered the country illegally have been released into the interior of the United States pending the outcome of their removal proceedings. But because of the massive backlog of cases, hearing dates are sometimes set years in the future and the adjudication process often takes years to complete. Aliens not in custody routinely fail to appear in court and, even if they do appear, fail to comply with removal orders. There are more than 1 million illegal aliens who have been issued final removal orders from immigration judges and yet remain at-large in the United States.

Efforts to find solutions that address the immense number of unauthorized aliens living in our country should start with accurate information that allows us to understand the true scope of the problem.

Fourth, it may be open to States to design State and local legislative districts based on the population of voter-eligible citizens. In Evenwel v. Abbott, 136 S. Ct. 1120 (2016), the Supreme Court left open the question whether “States may draw districts to equalize voter-eligible population rather than total population.” Some States, such as Texas, have argued that “jurisdictions may, consistent with the Equal Protection Clause, design districts using any population baseline — including total population and voter-eligible population — so long as the choice is rational and not invidiously discriminatory”. Some courts, based on Supreme Court precedent, have agreed that State districting plans may exclude individuals who are ineligible to vote. Whether that approach is permissible will be resolved when a State actually proposes a districting plan based on the voter-eligible population. But because eligibility to vote depends in part on citizenship, States could more effectively exercise this option with a more accurate and complete count of the citizen population.

The Department has said that if the officers or public bodies having initial responsibility for the legislative districting in each State indicate a need for tabulations of citizenship data, the Census Bureau will make a design change to make such information available. I understand that some State officials are interested in such data for districting purposes. This order will assist the Department in securing the most accurate and complete citizenship data so that it can respond to such requests from the States.

To be clear, generating accurate data concerning the total number of citizens, non-citizens, and illegal aliens in the country has nothing to do with enforcing immigration laws against particular individuals. It is important, instead, for making broad policy determinations. Information obtained by the Department in connection with the census through requests for administrative records under 13 U.S.C. 6 shall be used solely to produce statistics and is subject to confidentiality protections under Title 13 of the United States Code. Information subject to confidentiality protections under Title 13 may not, and shall not, be used to bring immigration enforcement actions against particular individuals. Under my Administration, the data confidentiality protections in Title 13 shall be fully respected.

Saturday, July 13th 2019 at 9:51AM
Steve Williams

I have a feeling you get as much of a laugh as I do from the COLOREDS

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Mr. Steve Williams you have defeated the idiot Mr. Junious Stanton! A language and culture of violence.

Posted By: Harry Watley
Wednesday, August 14th 2019 at 10:25AM
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Mr. Williams congratulate to you on how you are handling the idiot Mr. Ron!

Posted By: Harry Watley
Wednesday, August 14th 2019 at 10:44AM
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Thank you Harry, Ron can be a slippery one.

Wednesday, August 14th 2019 at 12:53PM
Steve Williams

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I do not know how much WORK, or Bravery you can get out of this selfProfessed ....

68 IQ retardant, bred in a barn by some COLORED'whiteMaster'-"blackSlave"

BUT

1. Mr. Watley will volunteer to be yours, if he can keep a YMCA wading pool

2. AND at least you can always get a great laugh....'blackFace'..boJangles type


Thursday, August 15th 2019 at 11:10AM
robert powell
Yes, it's interesting how Ron and Harry "talk" to each other. I guess I'm the only one Ron wants to talk to, at the moment, for some reason.

Friday, August 16th 2019 at 11:15AM
Steve Williams
Well it looks like this topic is over because the courts ruled that the Trump Administration arguments was not believable and that question was struck down and that put a end to that effort.


Friday, August 16th 2019 at 10:55PM
Deacon Ron Gray
This is about the 1820 census Ron.

Saturday, August 17th 2019 at 12:33AM
Steve Williams
Not in this up coming election, that question is mute.


Saturday, August 17th 2019 at 8:13AM
Deacon Ron Gray
In the upcoming CENSUS Ron, the question will be answered in other ways. The reason for why the question was on the 1820 census is instructive to whether we have a good reason to include it on the 2020 census. the question is not MOOT.

Saturday, August 17th 2019 at 9:30AM
Steve Williams
No matter what you are saying, that question will not be on this up coming CENSUS by the law of the land, period.


Saturday, August 17th 2019 at 9:58AM
Deacon Ron Gray



Why did the 1820 census ask the citizenship question???

SUBJECT

...YES, all Americans KNOW about the 2020 Census and the COLORED'whites' will ENFORCE the Citizenship

Rule in CONGRESS and States 2019+...(see Georgia voting 2018)

….AND....COLORED'brownBlackYellowMellow' will be aware COLORED'whites' will ENFORCE

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THAT blockingCOWARD RACIST russianBOT deacon of what?..wants to CHANGE Blog Subject.?

….and yes steve; great comment

"...it's interesting how Ron and Harry "talk" to each other. I guess I'm the only one Ron wants to talk to,

at the moment, for some reason....."

Friday, August 16th 2019 at 11:15AM
Steve Williams

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...the Racist russianBOT cannot communicate with me.....

True, Deacon-crMinister of WHAT?...accused harry of being the russianBOT, and deacon of WHAT?

agrees with that FAKE THINKER....and juniorStanton-blocker2...

…..at least these russianBOTS….cannot VOTE in 2020.....

Saturday, August 17th 2019 at 10:18AM
robert powell
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