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This is a follow up to my previous post, False Patriotism. Just in case your wondering what Patriotism is, it simply means, Love for one's Country: (The word has meaning) on the other hand, False Patriotism simply means while wrapping themselves in our flag, people in High places lie in order to get the populace to believe something that is not true, or to advance their own special int rest or gain. Google the words.....The Deception OF Diebold..........and surely you'll see who has gained not only by the Deception of Diebold, but also with the Deceptive Nature of Simplicity. Because in all reality, the more simple it looks, the chances that it will come under question or slim to none..................and by the way Diebold is a voting machine used in our voting process implemented by the Republicans to count our votes to determine who wins elections. I think it's very detrimental that we as Black people living in America finally realize in some cases it's not the Vote that counts, but who counts the Votes.
Posted By: Carlos Perry
Thursday, July 31st 2008 at 12:33PM
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Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, my greatgrandfather, grandfather, father, me, my sons and daughters are Republicans.
The Republican party freed the slaves and my family realizes that the Dixie Democrats stole the Republican party in the early 60,s and we have fought and will fight them til we get The Party of Free Slaves, Free Choice, Free Religion, Free, back.................
Saturday, August 16th 2008 at 10:10PM
robert powell
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My rebutal and what autimatley ended the disscussion/debate.............................Who is Racist?
Posted: 1/20/2008 6:19:35 AM
I'd like to thank you for bringing to light so many issues that involved my ancestors my self, and so many others African American people. But like in any other debate or decision making, the majority rules. Keep that in mind, and the time in which you or referring to.For as some of the comments made by your ancestors, it cannot be argued that even back then they were politician. Like in our current time. A smart politician will look for the intres of the general public before planning a campaign strategy, wether or not he's got the strength and the courage to stand on his own conviction, in an effort to gain power, unlike some of your ancestors who felt no compassion for the oppression of others {mainly speaking of African Americans} it's fair to say many lack the compassion and the courage of President Lincoln, who did not only see the immortality in "INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE" but stood firm in his own convictions. Sought out to abolish this acts, In 1863, when Mr.President Lincoln issued an Emancipation Proclamation, abolition in what strongly resembles these actions and strong racial words that were beyond a reasonable doubt apart of any campaign debate at any time in the past, that you have brought to the forefront. Courage is a word that we've all heard, but some times fail to realize it's attributes. Deriving from many Honorable characteristics, meaning mental or moral strength to resist opposition, danger, or hardship. Courage, implies firmness of mind and will in the face of danger or extreme difficulty, the courage to support unpopular causes. Mettle suggests an ingrained capacity for meeting strain or difficulty with fortitude and resilience a challenge that will test your mental stability, spirit also suggests a quality of temperament enabling one to hold one's own or keep up one's morale when opposed or threatened. And not that I've forgot about the Founding Forefather's, because I honestly believe that there actions were guided by a more higher power with the creation of the Constitution of the United States of America. But for the politician that you mentioned and have quoted, it's fair to say that even back then like in our current times it doesn't take much courage or moral convictions to agree or go along with the popular belief of what is right or wrong, in order to benefit ones self, seemingly, proclaiming and promoting the general welfare of the people who represented the Majority. Proclaiming the restoration of the white race. As you qouted....It is to prevent the people of the white race from being exiled from their homes--exiled from the government which they formed and created for themselves and for their children, and to prevent them from being driven out of the country or trodden under foot by an inferior and barbarous race." Meaning {African Americans} as you Quoted by,Rep. Fernando Wood (D., N.Y.), 1865
Mayor of New York City, 1855-58, 1860-62.......And even back when the statement was made by Thomas Jefferson......."I hold that the present state of civilization, where two races of different origin, and distinguished by color, and other physical differences, as well as intellectual, are brought together, the relation now existing in the slave holding states between the two, is, instead of an evil, a good--a positive good."
............Surley a man of his statue claiming that controlling another human being was a good--a positive good, which leads me to think that at the time, was motivated by greed, being that SLAVE HOLDING. Represented the ownership of slaves and being able to profit from it......And I could go on in bringing to the light a double standard mixed with greed and a separation of people even back then in those days. Instead I'll address your initial accusations oppose from the Democratic party of yesterday in comparison of today, in the fact it does not sustain or hold up the evidence in comparison of the two relating to current times. Fact being Yesterday was Yesterday and Today being Today, I should also point out that with each generation it prides it's self to either learn from the previous faults or to become better which brings us to Toady.In your effort to promote a bias assumption of the Democratic party oppose from the Republican party, you would need not to look at yesterday but instead look ahead into Tomorrow. In an effort to see which party would base their political intres to resemble the Ionic document known as the Constitution of the United States Of America, in which all parts of it, is something to marvel over. I feel honored to bring this particular one into remembrance. Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the
jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make
or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall
any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person
within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws............... And I might add that in your effort to discredit the Democratic party of today by bringing back the past of yesterday, I feel the overwhelming urge to bring to the light that you only mention the Democratic party, of the past, not the republican party. which I believe at that time would also show a separation between a certain class of white people as well as African Americans . And although we've had many leaders only a few or still house hold names, and remembered for their heroism. Who have also left us with a noble end, in their efforts. Once again I'll Honor Mr.President Lincoln not just for signing and enforcing the Emancipation Proclamation act, in which I strongly believe many others might have thought about doing even before him, but for having the courage to do it. Although we stand divided, we equally share the same land. And just like many others who had the courage to stand in the way of all opposition JFK ,MLK they will never be forgotten..........what some people don't realize to this day is that some of the greatest leaders also shared one thing in common amogst being cowardly struck down and assassinated by the opposition ,THEY ALL HAD DREAMS AND VISIONS, which only leads me to believe that they were hand picked and chosen by God,...but don't just take my word, learn more about Mr. President Lincoln ,Mr. President J.F.Kennedy, and Civil rights activist and minister Martin Luther King, ., being the youngest man to received the Nobel Peace Prize. ... A Davine leadership even by the insight and visions of the forefathers in creation of the Ionic document known as the Constitution of the United States of America .......................And although some people may argue that it wasn't founded on biblical laws and morals, but I believe that it was, but the four fathers knew and for seen issues with this and didn't bear it on the people, because they knew that there is not one who is perfect, but did implement the guide lines of the Constitution to form a more perfect union, or why would the following been documented. "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; BUT NO RELIGIOUS TEST SHALL EVER BE REQUIRED as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." So to me this proves that not only were their great minds involved in the creation of this document, it also shows signs of having the unseen blessing of GOD. Knowing that even God gives us a free will......And although I can connect these Leaders with poccessing their own individuality which in each case was very peculiar and distinguishable from many others. I strongly believe that they were lead by a divine power. But the ones you've quoted above along with the Republican party at that time which was purposely avoided in your post resemble Pharaoh in the book of Exodus chapter1 verse8 in which the people were the sons of Israel in slaved by the Pharaoh but were led out by Moses with his only defense being the sword, meaning Gods word and a rod. Note that if you read far enough, God heard there outcry as a result to drive them to work, and so the story began. read the out come....................and in just the same way I can connect those leaders who have displayed courage and being lead by a higher power, also can I show proof of those who preach separation and supremacy being led by other forces and there connection and what they stood for...........that or not of God, and surly let it be known that both party at some point and time shared the same views................................let's compare from the bible Exudus1 verse 8.... Then a new king, who did not know about Joseph, came to power in Egypt. 9 "Look," he said to his people, "the Israelites have become much too numerous for us. 10 Come, we must deal shrewdly with them or they will become even more numerous and, if war breaks out, will join our enemies, fight against us and leave the country." .................compared to.................,Rep.Fernando Wood (D., N.Y.), 1865 Mayor of New York City, 1855-58, 1860-62.........................................................................................................................."My fellow citizens, I have said that the contest before us was one for the restoration of our government; it is also one for the restoration of our race. It is to prevent the people of our race from being exiled from their homes--exiled from the government which they formed and created for themselves and for their children, and to prevent them from being driven out of the country or trodden under foot by an inferior and barbarous race......................................................................................... both these statement made or a great deception but the one we can relate to in our current time even proves to me to be inconsistent with the fact that every time our country has went to war, starting with the Civil War,Congress found that
(1) the 9th and 10th Cavalry regiments and the 24th and 25th Infantry regiments, comprised of African-American soldiers referred to as `Buffalo Soldiers', performed outstanding service to the United States during--
(A) the Indian Wars;
(B) the Spanish-American War;
(C) the Philippine Insurrection; and
(D) the raids against Poncho Villa; black soldiers known as the Buffalo soldriers have went to war and bled on the flag alongside white soldriers, Even up until the current date in Iraq, to keep the colors from running in hopes to maintain a proud nation and to protect the people in it. And will continue to do so in spite of all the hate and bigotry. It is with out a doubt if it ever came into question about restoring a race I would hope that it's the humane race within the United States and not to favor one race................. I can see a cycle here and maybe the day will come when God will say that he's had enough and stop the vicious cycle, because it's clear that even with the gift of free will we all have not learned from the past, and if it's left up to us will probably repeat it over and over again, but I'll pray and stay optimistic in hopes that one day we will all gain the wisdom and knowledge that will bring us together as a humane race, instead of the selfish pride that separates us, and I'll even go as far as risking what little popularity this post will have and pray for these things in Jesus name........Amen
Monday, October 13th 2008 at 12:23AM
Carlos Perry
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This ended our discussion, but I strongly believe it was the last comment that was made that shut down the entire thread, because no one else wanted to comment after my final post........................Who is Racist?
Posted: 2/8/2008 9:07:21 PM
"The less a man thinks or knows about his virtues, the better we like him."
--Ralph Waldo Emerson {key word being virtues}
I didn't start this post, but sense the last comment was addressed it resembles a gold mine that hasn't been tapped into. If their was any doubt in what Mr.Ralph Waldo Emerson stated , this would prove to establish by proof or evidence , which in my mind would give grounds to dive deeper into this thread topic of "WHO IS RACIST" by starting another in titled "NOT ONLY DO I KNOW WHO, BUT I THINK I KNOW WHY
Monday, October 13th 2008 at 12:30AM
Carlos Perry
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