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Ebony & Ivory... Do Interracial Relationships weaken our race? (1452 hits)


Before I comment on this subject, I'd like to hear what BlackinAmerica has to say about this... fire away...
Posted By: Jon C.
Thursday, August 7th 2008 at 5:10PM
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Nope. People are people and the sooner we get past the cosmetic of the thing, the better.

Actually, let me go a little deeper. If a person's motive for dating outside the race is because those of his/her own race are considered not good enough or below par across the board, then yes, it definitely catalystically weakens our race.

If you're a black man and you *WON'T* date black women because they're not good enough, that's a problem. If you're a black woman and you feel the same about black men, that's a problem, too. Why? Because when you unconsciously say that people of your own race are beneath you to the point where you think there are no good ones out there, what you're UNCONSCIOUSLY say is that your love for YOURSELF as a black person is problematic. There's definitely a correlation between bastardizing your race and your own self-worth.

On the other hand, if you keep the doors open to *all* possibilities of the *human* race, you most likely have a positive attitude about not only yourself and your race, but also about other races and ethnicities. If you keep the doors open to receive the good in *anyone* regardless of race, you have a healthy personal view and worldview.

So, ultimately, whether or not it hinders depends on one's perspective and motive for dating interracially.

Blessings...

Blessings...

Thursday, August 7th 2008 at 7:06PM
Dee Gray
...beatiful baby, by the way.

Blessings...
Thursday, August 7th 2008 at 7:07PM
Dee Gray
I think you know my views already cuz:)


Race is a politically made variable. It was created to promote/ market slavery. Later (up until today) it has been used to justify minorities being minorities in America...ie. boost up your numbers by labeling people based on color.

Children of mixed ethnicity with have the traits of one or both (or multiple) ethnic groups. See my book for details: Is Barack Black or White?

Here's what I'm talking about:

If a West Indian African American and a Descendant of Slavery African American produce a child. The child will behavior more like whichever parent instills to dominant ethnic culture. Most likely...West Indian.

Or

If an Italian Irish American (white) and a immigrant from Nigeria (Black) product a child...the child could very well be more Italian and/or Irish (white) than Nigerian American (Black).

SIDE NOTE: Until we stop labeling our people by made up variables we will forever be listed as a minority in a land where we are one of the largest ethnic groups and should have more power!

We are not Black...they are not White and we are not minorities...
Thursday, August 7th 2008 at 7:09PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
Honestly the world in mix. No one individual can trace just one race in their blood. That's just the way the world is created. Just a known fact.

Etana
Thursday, August 7th 2008 at 9:43PM
Etana Busara
Thanks to all of you for commenting. The reason that I posted this provocative question is because I've encountered many Blacks that feel that this statement is true. I disagree with them.

Aside from the fact that race is a socially-fabricated construct (another topic entirely), I think that many people are under the illusion that we must maintain some type of racial identity, almost in the same way that racist Whites want to protect their Whiteness. If you watch an interracial couple in public, you will eventually encounter some bystander giving them a dirty look or making a snide comment. That bystander, I've found, is just as likely to be Black as White.

Today, we live in a global culture. We are not defined by our race or color, but rather our culture (another topic) or values. Unfortunately, it is not uncommon to hear someone talking about White women "stealing" Black men, or Blacks running to other ethnic groups to escape perceived problems with Black relationships.

If a Caucasian woman is going to be a dedicated wife and mother, and support a Black man spiritually and intellectually as her partner, is that not a positive action, and vice-versa?

Just some food for thought...
Thursday, August 7th 2008 at 10:10PM
Jon C.
It IS a positive action and I took this blog and the comments to heart, as did I my response, because *I* am one of those women. I'm married to a white man, and I never feel the need to say THAT when I tell people that I'm married. Why? Because I didn't marry a white man, black man, Hispanic man, Asian man...I married a MAN...and more importantly, a GOD-man. When I met my husband (at our predominantly black church), his hands were in the air openly praising God. For me, that substance was the most important thing.

I wrote a poem about it. I'll provide the link as soon as I record it.

Blessings...

P.S.- It's ironic to me, too, that when we DO get looks in public, it's not usually the white people that seem the most taken aback and throw the most looks. It my fellow black people. I don't hold ill will though. I realize that it's less common for a black woman to marry outside of her race than it is a black man.

Again, blessings...
Thursday, August 7th 2008 at 10:21PM
Dee Gray
I don't think so although let me say, I have never dated a person outside my race. I think love can come in all colors.
Thursday, August 7th 2008 at 11:18PM
ReJeana Turner
How can we even ask ourselves that when most African Americans as decendent of African women that were raped by their caucasian slave owners? My father was the color of a good strong cup of coffee but look at my photo? My kids are Black and mexican so am i to say that they are the reason why tomorrows African Americans will be weak?
Thursday, August 7th 2008 at 11:50PM
GREGORY GULLEY
Absolutely not, I feel that knowing more about others ultimately strengthens you. I embrace interacial relationships because people in those relationships put there foremost difference aside and realize that we are what we are people.
Friday, August 8th 2008 at 9:52AM
Antre Drummer
I agree with a number of statements. Invariably, a lot of black women (including a number of friends of mine) choose to limit themselves to a particular race that they will date (read: black men). They refuse to open themselves to the possibility that the could find love in another race. Going off of what someone else said, none of us is 100% of something. I have Irish and Dutch in my maternal ancestry, going back to the 1800s. But I also have a paternal grandmother who was very light-skinned, enough to "pass" as white. So obviously, I am not 100% "black".

The social constructs of race have made it so that segregation, to an extent, remains viable, and in some cases, encouraged. It's seen as a means of "keeping the race pure", when in reality, it hasn't been pure for quite some time.

That being said, I agree with Dee, that it amazing that most of the "dirty" looks I get when out with my husband are from other blacks, not whites. It has become a bit easier, as we've been together over 15 years, but in the early 90s, when we first started dating in high school, it was almost like a reverse occasion of the 50s/60s in the deep South. As in, what am I doing with this red-headed white boy? Because he loves me, treats me right, respects me, etc....If you find someone like that, it shouldn't matter the race.
Friday, August 8th 2008 at 10:21AM
Jennifer Hawk
Here's the link to that recording. You won't have to join My Space or anything to listen to it because my page is set for open view by the public. The page is still under construction, but the spoken word is there. I posted it first because I had already recorded it.

www.myspace.com/faithstempo

I posted a blog about it, too, so feel free to comment. It's a tribute to God for the God IN the man he gave me. Thanks in advance for taking the time to listen.

Blessings...
Friday, August 8th 2008 at 12:14PM
Dee Gray
You would be hard pressed to find any "pure" black or white person in this country. Black and white people have been intermingled since slavery; so we really need to get over this whole color thing. The white people in this country are black and the black people are white.....accept it already.
Friday, August 8th 2008 at 6:15PM
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