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The Other Side of Money Grubbing Ministers


I ran into an old acquaintance outside of the barbershop.
We had a very long conversation; we talked for nearly three
hours standing on the sidewalk.

He knew that I was a pastor of a church and finally just point
blank asked me, "Why are ministers so often money grubbing and
ALWAYS talking about money?"

That is always a delicate subject and perhaps one that keeps
many out of church. The perception is that ministers and
churches are just after money, and televangelists appear to
constantly plead for money.

So he asked, "Why are ministers so often money grubbing and
ALWAYS talking about money?"

As I explained to him, let me try to enlighten some of you to
"the other side." This issue is longer than normal but most
have never heard "the other side" from a minister's view.

I will make four points as briefly as I can.

Point One:

There are ministers and churches that ARE just after your money!

The Bible spoke of them in biblical times and they exist today.
Jesus had very little good to say about many of the ministers
(Priests, Scribes and Pharisees) of that day. He called them
lovers of money and said they put burdens on the people that
they themselves would not bear.

There will always be the counterfeit among the real.
There will always be the evil motives among the pure.

This isn't just limited to ministry but exists in every area of
life. There are crooked police, crooked politicians, crooked
judges, crooked lawyers, crooked bankers, crooked teachers,
crooked car salesmen, crooked doctors, crooked you-name-it and
yes, even crooked ministers.

All religions, races, nationalities, and time periods have those
ministers sincerely trying to help others (the sincere), and
those mainly trying to help themselves (the crooked).
No one has a monopoly or is excluded.

There is counterfeit money. Just because there is counterfeit
money does not cause you to throw ALL of your money away.

That's the first point, there is the genuine and the crooked,
and we are talking about the genuine, not the crooked.

Since I am a pastor and essentially have three separate voices
that reach people, I talk from a view of the other side from
three different vantagepoints.

There is our church, there is the television ministry, and then
there is Mountain Wings. Each reaches people in a different way,
and each has its unique money situation.

Point Two - The Church:

Most Christian groups, including our church, advocate the Old
Testament law of tithing. Tithing is giving ten percent of your
income to the church. This Mountain Wings issue is not to debate
tithing, but to show a pattern.

Even among churches where tithing is rigorously preached, an
average of 35% tithe. Nearly two out of three won't, even when
it is vigorously preached as doctrine within their church.

The average giving percentage among Christians is 1.8% of their
income. Statistically, the richer you are, the less percentage
you give.

Point Three - The Television Ministry:

The quote "walk a mile in a man's shoes before judging him"
applies to televangelists. I am a televangelist. I am not
nationwide, but I appear on local cable television six times per
week in the Atlanta area.

In the beginning of our ministry, I set forth a policy that we
would send cassette tapes to ANYONE in the U.S. that requested
them without charge. We would pay all expenses.

Why did I do this?

I didn't want one person to be prevented from receiving a sermon
that may bless them and change their lives or someone that they
knew because they didn't have any money at the time.

We mail the tape, along with a letter asking them to send a
donation to help support the tape ministry.

Plainly printed on the outside of each envelope is the cost of
the postage, the package weighs two ounces. The envelope costs
money, the tape costs money, the label on the envelope and on
the tape costs money, and the machines to make the tapes costs
money. We have to pay staff to make, label and mail the tapes.

No one that receives a tape questions that it costs the ministry
money for him or her to receive it. When I started, I assumed that at
least half of the people would send at least a small donation to
cover the cost of their tape.

Out of each 1,000 tapes that we send, guess how many send us a
donation?

Guess!


No, you are way off. Your guess was way too high.


Six

Six out of every 1,000 people send us a donation to help pay for
the cost of the tapes they receive.

If I hadn't been in ministry, if I didn't know the facts, I'm
not sure I would believe it either. I would have never figured
that Christians, ordering Christian tapes, wouldn't so much as
send anything in return for merchandise they received.

It wasn't that they didn't like the tapes. They saw the sermon
on TV and that's what prompted them to order the tapes in the
first place, so they had to like it. All the people that saw it
also had cable TV, which costs an average of $40 a month. Cable
TV is not an absolute necessity, so that also meant everyone
ordering it had $40 a month to spend on TV.


We even have some viewers that order a tape of EVERY sermon and
to this day have never sent a dime to help.

I could speculate on the reasons all day long, but I know the
facts. Six out of every 1,000 people send a donation to help.

Although those six donations help, they nowhere near pay the
cost for the tapes for the rest of the 994.

If the tape ministry were required to stand on its own
financially, not to make a profit, but just to break even,
I would have to plead on each broadcast for money. I would be
labeled as a money grubbing preacher just to break even on
sending the tapes to the viewers and that doesn't even count
television time, which is another large expense.

Point Four - Mountain Wings

As I write this, Mountain Wings has over 700,000 subscribers.
Just as with the tapes, there is no requirement for payment.
Also just as with the tapes, it is costly to send out 700,000
emails every day plus advertise and support Mountain Wings.

Just check to see how much it costs to send 700,000 emails each
day for a solid month.

At the bottom of each issue are instructions for making a
donation.

Mountain Wings began January 1, 2001 and has been published daily
since. Out of over 700,000 subscribers, GUESS how many
donations we have received as of this writing, 19 months later?

Go ahead and Guess

No, that's way too high.



88

No, not 88,000

88

Not 8,800

88

We have received about $3,500.00 in total donations. Of that
amount, one lady mailed a check for $400 and then put $450 on
her credit card. One man sent a check for $365, one dollar a
day for Mountain Wings. Most donations were $30. The donations
have paid for 4% of the costs of Mountain Wings. We really
appreciate the 88, but only 88 out of 700,000 sent something to
help with expenses. That's the point.

Our email box is flooded with testimonies daily. We get
testimonies ranging from giving people a good feeling to saving
them from suicide. Testimonies boost our spirits and keeps us
encouraged but realistically, they don't help pay bills.
If Mountain Wings depended on donations, we would have to plead
every other issue for money and probably also be filled with
advertising.

This is a realistic view from the other side. None of the
figures have been exaggerated. Point 3 and 4 are from direct
experience so I don't have to worry about the accuracy of those
figures. I know they are correct.

I understand why the good, the honest, and the sincere ministers
have to focus so much on money. They are responsible for paying
bills and people generally won't do right on their own, even
when the right thing is so obvious. The people are good people.
They have good hearts but somehow, just don't put it as a
priority to pay something if they don't have to.

Most ministries don't have millions of dollars in the bank.
They don't have gold plated faucets. They, like their members,
struggle each month with basic expenses, like the water bill.
The average church has 60-70 members.

3,300 churches in America permanently close their doors each
week. The reason most close is probably related to not having
enough money.

This Mountain Wings issue may provoke a lot of controversy.
Some don't agree with tithing but understand this issue is not
about tithing, it's about the fact that people usually won't do
what is required without a lot of pushing. When you push, you
sound like a moneygrubber.

Talk to a minister on the radio and they will tell you up front,
listeners won't contribute enough to pay for the radio time.
Even when they have a devout listening audience, they still
won't financially support it.

If you have a radio or TV ministry, large or small, you were
probably saying amen as you read this.

If you have an Internet daily, weekly or monthly email, you were
probably saying double amen's as you read this.

Yes, there are the crooked out there but that's not the issue,
that's the excuse.

I challenge you to find the sincere and do your part to make
sure they are not one of the 3,300 that close each week.

Money grubbing and always talking about money?

There are some, YES.

But there are so many that its just not so,
not according to the view from the other side.



Walk In Your Blessing
www.westministries.org
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Great post. Thank you Dr. West for your explanations and the other side of the issue. But IHMO that doesn't change the words/teachings of the person you seek to follow...Jesus said:
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Rendering to Caesar and to God (Luke 20:20-26)
Paying Taxes to Caesar (Matthew 22:15-22)

Or more specifically

Matthew 6:24-34
24"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.

Do Not Worry
25"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life {money}, what you will eat or drink; or about your body {the church}, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? 26Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns {ask for money}, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?
28"And why do you worry about clothes {or money}? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

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If we truly love God...why do we insist on not following his message (O you of little faith). Either his words are true and all will be provided...or they are not true and we need to find money and resources to support/promote his message. We cannot have it both ways.

Why can't we have the faith the size of a mustard seed....and not seek to mix money and religion.


Saturday, September 6th 2008 at 9:55PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
Thank you - God bless you for taking the time to state your case on the issue of money and ministers. After many years in ministry I know that what you say is true.
Saturday, September 6th 2008 at 10:41PM
Dr. J. Elisha Burke
Brothers, thank you for the replies...this is a BOLD posting for a minister!

Okay...let's get to it. I'm sorry...please get me straight on this issue. How is this not about religion? Your tapes are about religion. The light note is for the building you use for religion. IMHO it is all about religion...and money.

If Matthew, Mark, and Luke's writings about Christ are correct...God does not need man's money to get the message out and/or take care of those who preach/teach his word. If the resources aren’t there…maybe God is trying to tell us to do something else? WWJD…how much money did Jesus ask for to support his ministry?

Whose example are we following when we ask the parishioners to fund God’s word?

I feel your pain about needing money to pay for derived requirements: most non-profit organizations have this issue. But as you suggest…if it is not the will of God... the church will go away. If God has the power to make the sun shine, rains fall, the winds blow, billions/trillions of hearts beat or stop beating, oceans turn, and mountains crumble…why would he need Auntie Faye to give the rent money to the church?

Not trying to be confrontational, just trying to make the point that either God provides or he doesn’t…we cannot have it both ways!

I’ve seen works and faith cure disease, provide money when there was no money, cause people to walk away from car crashes that should have killed them, and call folks to the hereafter without a single day of pain (yes this too is a blessing).

How can someone demand faith from the followers without giving that same faith to the God they serve?
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Side note: Did I read correct that you minister from the bible-new testament- about the new law (old law is gone), but decided to keep the tithe part to fund your mission needs?

Or does your church keep all the Mosaic Law (blood sacrifice, no pork, Sabbath, etc...)?
“I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.” - Matthew 5:18-20
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Thanks again for your replies… not trying to be confrontational. This is a great intellectual debate for Black America.

Sunday, September 7th 2008 at 12:41PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
Are there any other person's of the cloth on BIA who would like to respond?
Sunday, September 7th 2008 at 1:37PM
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Sunday, September 7th 2008 at 7:16PM
Michelle Diane
Dr. West,

I received your private message. I apologize, but I am a tad bit busy this week and cannot call you directly. As well, please post your reply here for all to see. There are many folks who may be too bashful to ask these questions and your response will aid them tremendously.

Thanks again for having the guts to tackle such an important question. I look forward to you response!

Monday, September 8th 2008 at 1:52PM
Dr. Ahmad Glover
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