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Robert this one is especially served up for you..............................

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Hello St. Jake,

I told you before that not all Black people are the same. Not all blackbirds are the same birds. Some blackbirds are crows while others are ravens. So, Black Americans are Black Americans and you are not to get Black Americans confused with other Black people. Am I making any sense with you?

Black Americans, which you are one are the most ignorant and stupid people in the world in White America. We spread all sorts of stupid stuff about ourselves.

Friday, July 23rd 2010 at 1:12AM
Harry Watley

St. Jake, interesting video. But there will always be Religion, Good done in the name of Religion, and Evil done in the name of Religion. At least I can say this is true for Judaism, Christianity and Islam. There may be exceptions of other Religions, I'm not an expert on World Religions.
Friday, July 23rd 2010 at 8:07AM
Steve Williams

talk to your friend siebraMuhammadan on this one--CARTOON

no arab, muslim or jew EVER did what paganChristians did to African muslims, arabs or jews from 1492-1864
Friday, July 23rd 2010 at 1:25PM
robert powell

TEACH HARD JAKE!!!

EAT THEM UP LIKE A SLICE OF BEAN PIE AFTER A RAMADAN FASTING!!!
Friday, July 23rd 2010 at 4:48PM
Siebra Muhammad

Saint Jake are you married with children?

Friday, July 23rd 2010 at 5:34PM
robert powell

Robert,

What difference does it make whether or not Saint Jake is married with children? We are here to focus on our Brother's message not to focus on his domestic life.
Friday, July 23rd 2010 at 6:06PM
Siebra Muhammad

Pause I guess is better than Delete?
Friday, July 23rd 2010 at 9:02PM
Steve Williams

Robert, Best we stick with your Blog. The nonAnswerers should talk to themselves.
Friday, July 23rd 2010 at 9:06PM
Steve Williams

Hello to All,

As much as Mr. Elijah Muhammad meant well for Black Americans is no doubt that Elijah was a very ignorant man due to no fault of his own, but nevertheless, ignorant.

I say this because history reveals that the followers of Prophet Mohammed and the religion of Islam did devastating things to humanity especially with the slave trade that Black Americans are a product of today, yet people such as Siebra, Mr. Farrakhan, Robert and Jamal are devout Muslims and have embraced Islam as their religion. How stupid and ignorant could we, Black Americans be? My God, we are a dumb ignorant people.

Our religion that God has perfected for us, Black Americans is LIFE. We, Black Americans have a clean record that no people in the world could say Black Americans has done anything wrong to them and we are going to keep it that way throughout eternity. Black Americans are that Apple of God Eye today, if you will.

I urge all of Black Americans to give back the religion of Islam to the Arabian people.

What say any of you?

Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 2:38AM
Harry Watley

In one blog saintJake is a woman, another by siebra says she is a man.

since these blogs of her/him are ziglar Cartoon Reruns, I just wanted to know what or who I am writing with?

since triflingSiebra is a 30 something single female and she is intimately aligned with her or himSaintJake---I have more information.

harry has told us he is directly from 'god', a 68IQ Retard and that he is the prophet of the "Apple of God Eye"---I know how to converse with him.

This SiebrasaintJake is Cartoonish, as he/she writes negative things about Muhammad--i.e. siebraMuhammad----

yet the geoMethamorphicSiebra praises her/he; over my posts that are the antithesis of siebraSaintJake paganChristian Thought.

are they married? are they one body, 2-4 Minds? are they Sarah Palins' advance team? are they like harry says, "How stupid and ignorant could we, Black Americans be? My God, we are a dumb ignorant people."?

or are they just smoking Ganja?

Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 8:11AM
robert powell

St. Jake proves my point and wields its religion against all comers.
Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 9:08AM
Steve Williams

you consider Scholarship and History, name calling-Irrelevant?

Irrelevant---a few ganja smoking negros--that are colorWorshippers in 2010.

steve, jenFad, clark, Dr.LaDonna, Rich kigel, Marta, MIISRAEL, amos, earl or any of us that went to college in the 60-70s already heard these angry 'black' consciousness, "black" power anal excrement that you; stillGhetto people, want to bring to a Serious Web Site----BIA gets more hits than even CNN of the same name.

Civilization is the movement of large numbers of The Family of Adaam over long periods and Relevant in 2010.

yes; paganChristians, would be considered a Civilization in 2010, good or bad, as they have adherents of 1+ Billion people over a 1500-2000 year era.

yes; China, would be considered a Civilization in 2010, good or bad, as they have adherents of 1+ Billion people for 3000-5000+ years.

yes; Hindu nations, would be considered a Civilization in 2010, good or bad, as they have adherents of 1+ Billion people WorldWide for 500+ years.

yes; Democratic nations, would be considered a Civilization in 2010, good or bad, as they have adherents of 1+ Billion people WorldWide for 500+ years.

and also very importantly,

yes; Islaamic People, would be considered a Civilization in 2010, good or bad, as they have adherents of 2 Billion people WorldWide for 1431+ years and they have most of the Worlds OIL.

so yes; to a ghettoStreet that might be irrelevant to YOU, but then I think that 35.6 Ganja smokers with 'blackjewchristianmuslimpharoahThought" are Cartoonish.

learn something.

Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 9:28AM
robert powell

EXACTLY...

Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 9:43AM
robert powell

Why have this big argument about organized religion; where is the spiritual connection with I AM? All religions believe in the infalliability of the word no matter whose word so they say, and it has all been translated.

As far as all black people not being the same, what does religion have to do with that. Did or did we not all come from the same parents, even those who were punished for disobedience and for lying? Is it true or not? Analysis? Who?

The color of the black birds is the same. There is no little bit black or almost black. Black is the absence of all color. So, if the story is true as some of you say it is, then the so called arab people are the africans' cousins, first cousins at that. And they did not call themselves arabs in the beginning. So who named all of the different people? Most of the arabs I see look like someone who calls thenselves black. My cousins in particular and I have some who look Indian (dot and feather). So, where is Analysis. The one drop theory never made since to me but, if it is a measuring stick, then we are all black except the salavic.

Was Ishmael Black? They said that his mother and father were, if the story is true. Are you not related to all of your Uncles' children regardless of their color? What about your brothers and sisters, Where in the good book did it say that Ham was black and Japheth was white?
I finally found where a man was turned white for lying.

How confusing can it get at least the various explanations.There is lot of time wasted on the topic of differences when we all say we are descendent of one single parent. And if Ham was black, wouldn't his descendents be black regardless of where they lived and that includes Jesus The Christ? Analysis.

It appears to me that ignoance is a big theme with you Harry, Are you the only smart one?
Didn't the book sy somewhere "Judge ye Not...." I'm just sking. I do not profess to be an expert but I do read and do so frequently.
Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 3:23PM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson

St. Jake, of course you don't need to convert anyone. You yourself is converted is all that matters.
Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 3:49PM
Steve Williams

Robert, you are showing your ignorance again and that make you your own worst enemy. Nothing that you or your lying friend Harry can say is going to stop the upliftment of the Blackman and Blackwoman and if you try it only confirms your insanity. Remember, you are not God yourselves, and neither are we, so don't fool yourself thinking that you are not going to have to answer for your wrongdoings.

And stop writing dumb statements, such as "Saint Jake is a woman...Siebra says she is a man" -- as though we told this to you directly. Also you need to put the Qu'ran down and keep your filthy lying hands off of Messenger Elijah Muhammad's seven (7) books since you don't know how to comprehend or interpret that either.

There is no need to continue with your attacks on us little boy, because whatever you have to say to us, if it is nothing POSITIVE or to aid with the liberation of the Blackman/Blackwoman as a whole, counts for nothing. So until you come at us with some civilization and dignity, you should keep your savage mouth closed.
Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 4:41PM
Siebra Muhammad

ok...
Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 4:44PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis

Hello Ms. Thomasina,

Let us start with bite size pieces to avoid choking ourselves, okay.

Just two bite sized pieces I will put on the table, okay.

You said this “Didn't the book sy somewhere "Judge ye Not...." I'm just sking. I do not profess to be an expert but I do read and do so frequently.”

Okay, I do understand that you are only asking. The book that you were referring to I know that it is the Bible, am I right. Well, I unequivocally know that the Bible is the Jewish people’s testimony to the world of how God has helped them in their times of trouble with other people as well as personally help them, am I right.
For instance, it was Moses testimony how God help the children of Israel. It was King Solomon’s testimony how God gave him the dimensions to build the temple.

Consequentially, the Bible has nothing to do with Black Americans. Black Americans are nowhere written about in the Bible. Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. Black Americans are approximately 500 years old, am I right.

Now, let us move on to the second bite size pieces of red meat if you will.

You said this, “The color of the black birds is the same. There is no little bit black or almost black. Black is the absence of all color.”

Yes, the color of blackbirds is the same, Black. However, the species of the birds are different and that is the comparative point that is being made that not all Black people are the same people. For example, an African pygmy is not the same people as the African Watusi all though both people are Black Africans. Likewise, a Korean is a different person from Japanese even though they are both Asian people.

Black Americans are a different people than any and all other people in the world and we have in definite advantages to see ourselves as a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery as we move forward towards becoming a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.

Everything that I say is going to happen.

Now you tell me what is wrong about Black Americans being a different people than all of the people in the world since each people in the world is also different from all other people.

Tell me what you think.

Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 5:47PM
Harry Watley

Hello Siebra and everyone else,

All the stuff that you all are arguing and bickering over, none of it belongs to Black Americans.

Everything that comes to Black Americans will be new since Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery.

As we journey towards our sovereignty of inheriting a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders all this stuff that you all are talking about will be left outside. We will not have to build on anything that belongs to other people.

Already our religion, Life is new. We are not going to be in our sovereign country and have aberrant people telling us that we had their religion of Islam. I have told Christian pastors that Christianity will not be Black America’s religion since we have our own.

So, again all the argument and fussing that you all are going through is moot. Is it not possible that you slave minded people could seek something for us from God that no other people have? The Arabian people has Islam, so why would you ghettobilly Negroes on Islam. The European gentiles has Christianity, so why would you ghettobilly Negroes want to worship God or Christianity? Would you not want to worship God through your own damn religion that God has for you? Did not God give Islam to the Arabian people through Prophet Mohammed? So, what the hell is wrong with you all thinking? Are you all minds that small, if you will?

You all frustrate me. As a prophet, I have my own personality. Moses, Mohammed and Jesus had their personality as well. I am human and frustration is a human emotion. It does not take away from God constant inspiration and guidance to me.

As long as I obey God, I will be all right. You all ought to tear down the things I say or either agree with them and let us move on. Sovereignty will not be a picnic or a big party. Those that are left will have tremendous responsibility paving the way for our future generation for years to come while we have long been dead and gone.

Everything that I say is going to happen.

Tell me what you think.

Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 6:09PM
Harry Watley

NO to your question Harry!

And HELL NO about telling you what we think!
Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 6:38PM
Siebra Muhammad

For the 1 Millionth and 2nd Time, siebra-harry-saint-other negros;

The Leader of the United States is President Baraka Hussein Obama.

why would male/female - siebra hater/lover---saintJake Post on a Major American Site, such foolishness and discredited Divisive propaganda?

saintJake is no different than the Cartoon Sarah Palin--teaParty--glenBeck--Lack of Scholarship--So you Lie....

thank you triflingSiebra for calling me a "whiteBoy"---I must have again hit a nerve with your love/hate of he/she/nothingSaint.......

Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 8:20AM
robert powell

I apologize for offending you. I to am Native American and East Indian also. I meant no disrespect and if the person who used that explanation with me had meant it to be a slur, I would have been upset. Only certain people can say certain things to me too. Please accept my apology.
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 10:15AM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson

Hi Harry,

There is nothing wrong with American Africans being a different people. In fact, I agree with you in a way. However, as a race of people I do not. American Africans are different because of the experiences they have had. Some of you call that culture. I don't because I believe all americans have the same culture with different flavors. What I find disturbing is that if your assumption is correct, then we had no heritage but slavery and in my opinion, that is the major reason American Africans and the youth accept the white mans declaration that we came from nothing, and made no contribution to any society. Therefore you are helping to confirm a stereotype. So I ask you? Where does one"s history begin?

Next, When the bible was written regardless of who wrote it, there was no america but there were black people. Now, where did we come from? I bellieve that in all of the so called inspired writings of old, there is something worth listening to. After all, the Bible, Koran, and other ancient writings were all written for that day. They are a history of the people. Just as you said that a higher power spoke to you , so did Matthew, mark, Luke, John, Moses, and all of the other writers. We do't know whether any of it is true. It all is accepted on faith. After all none of the new testament was written while Jesus lived. I believe there is one race, the human race. Since we are left out of the American History book , does that mean we did not exist?

If you really want to get technical, Jewish is a religion not a race of people. Racially they were hebrews and Black According to the history I have researched if any of the origin of man is true, the Hebrews are our cousins, descended from one of the three brothers who survived the so called flood. Now in your research, and your inspiration, where did mankind come from? There are volumns of literature testifying to the fact that many of those people who are mentions in those ancient writing were black and not all writen by black people..

As a species, all birds have certain characteristics in common. So do people. Even house cats and lions have some common characteristics. So, I am wondering where you assess the difference and what is your proof? To set us apart as different also helps teach a stereotype. In my observation, All of the ethnics groups have something in common except the white man. No other species looks like him, so when I see one that does not fit the standard(mine) of a white man, then he has the drop which makes him the same as me, since I have the drop.

Harry, did I hit all points?

Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 10:56AM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson

Hello to All,

I have never seen such profound ignorance. Let me say this so that I understand things right, you ghettobilly Negroes are saying that if it was possible by some means God would physically appear and personally offer you dumb Negroes sovereignty on a portion of this continent you Negroes would tell God hell No, am I right.

You all would say, God we are doing fine. Even though we are at the bottom of all other people in this country. We have the highest incarceration rate. We have the highest infant mortality rate. We have poor health care and the list goes on. Yet you dumb Negroes would tell God that you do not want to be sovereign free on a portion of this continent that you could call your very own country with borders that we could have our hands on the helm of our own destiny. I have no words to describe this sort of stupidity.

I am living in an age that no words could adequately describe the ignorance of the American Negroes. However, I beseech God for help on our behalf anyway. In a sense I feel, as Prophet Ezekiel must have felt when God asked him could these bones live. Ezekiel new that the bones was so try and dead that he turned the question back to God and said only you know. I hope Black Americans could live. How about that Negroes?

Tell me what you think.

Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 11:20AM
Harry Watley

Harry,

Did I just read that you referred to the jewish book and a jewish peofit? or are you saying that there may be something of value in that jewish book?
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 11:27AM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson

Harry and Robert are out of season. They are just like that James Brown song:

TALKING LOUD AND SAYING NOTHING!!!
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 2:25PM
Siebra Muhammad

Hello Ms. Thomasina,

You said this, “American Africans are different because of the experiences they have had.”
You are precisely correct. Our experience began with how Black Americans were made. White Americans mostly of British descent are responsible for making Black Americans when they bred themselves with the African slave people they purchased from the slave traders approximately 300 years or until the Civil War ended. Consequentially, we are neither Africans nor Caucasians. In fact, an American African is a person of African origin that has become an American citizen. Therefore, a Black American is entirely a different person from an American African.

Next, you said this, “What I find disturbing is that if your assumption is correct, then we had no heritage but slavery”
You are precisely correct again. Since White American people purchased with real English currency, pounds and shillings the African slave, people and use the Africans to make Black Americans theoretically speaking Black Americans are still the livestock property of today’s slave masters children. Therefore, our heritage does not go beyond slavery. Similarly, when we become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders is when our actual history will begin. Every people are responsible for writing their own history. Black Americans are not sovereign and free people. Therefore, we cannot write our own history. White American people write our history since we are in the history because theoretically White America still owns us. However, as Black America’s first genuine prophet I am anointed to do for us similarly what Prophet Moses did for the children of Israel when they were in bondage and slavery in Egypt.

Next, you said this, “Next, When the bible was written regardless of who wrote it, there was no america but there were black people.”
I must caution you that certain point you cannot say regardless to who wrote the Bible because it is very relevant. However, you are precisely correct it again. You are doing very well. Yes, when the Bible was written Black Americans but they were Black people such as Simon of Cyprus who carried Jesus Cross. But, Simon of Cyprus was not Black as Black Americans are. Remember the concept that not all blackbirds of the same one birds.

Next, you said this, “…the Bible, Koran, and other ancient writings were all written for that day. They are a history of the people.”
You are precisely correct again. Therefore, you should understand that the Bible was written by the Jewish people and has nothing to do with Black Americans. In addition, it recorded the things that were happening in that day and time about the prophet. Likewise, when our religious book, the book of LIFE that someone of our race takes it upon themselves to write about the things that are happening and going to happen is how our book will be developed so that our future generation who will be sovereign at that time will know how it all happened.

Next, you said this, “Just as you said that a higher power spoke to you , so did Matthew, mark, Luke, John, Moses, and all of the other writers.”
Let me correct you, The higher power only spoke to Prophet Moses and not to the others you mentioned.

If you have any more questions or doubts please present them to me.

Tell me what you think.

Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 7:28PM
Harry Watley

Harry,
How did those "inspired" writers of the bible tell the unvarnished truth never to be changed because it was the word of God? Jewish is a religion remember, the people were Shemites and Hebrews.

I would caution you, Americn Africans need to get the American History right before they try to write prophacy or even understand it. So what about those of other ethnicities? How do those fint in and I believe that 98.5% of the so called Blacks in america are mixed. I refuse to not benefit from that mixture.

You should also remember that all People of colour in this country were not slaves. many of them came here free, Bannacker and Paul Couffe to name two. In fact, the first Africans who came here were free.

Much of what you say reaffirms some some of the stereotypes visited upon us. If Iwere to go "home", which part of me would go? Where would that be?

The only American Africanindocausijcan whose are in slavery are those whose mind is still enslaved and follow and bellieve the stereotypes. They are the ones whose has to educated; that is the reson I said that we needed to get our kids back and away from certain influences.

Monday, July 26th 2010 at 3:00PM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson