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The early Christian missionaries called the African practices “Ancestor Worship”. In fact, the Africans do not worship their ancestors in the same way as did the Chinese. African ancestral traditions have a much more interactive relationship with dead ancestors. The way the Zulus do it is to bury the dead, and then after a year has passed, the deceased are welcomed back to the house through a ritual. The family members take a branch and imagine that the dead ancestor is sitting on the branch, which is dragged into the house. A certain section of the hut is reserved for ancestors and that's where the deceased have their place. Their place is always where the beer is. When someone drinks a beer, he or she gives the ancestors a few drops. Conjuring up the dead goes way back in African culture. So the Europeans figured they would feed black people foolishness by handing them over a dead prophet, namely Jesus who murdered and get the black people to try to conjur him up as an ancestor. Blacks known to think more emotionally than rationally bought everything the white man was selling.
Posted By: jamal Abraham
Friday, October 29th 2010 at 3:43PM
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This African tradition of attempting to communicate with dead ancestors with song and dance and foolish rituals goes back into the thousands of years. Much like modern day Christians at church acting like they are communicating with Jesus who has been dead for 2000 years. Europeans figuring on this, has marketed it and concocted a religion called Christianity not only based on falsehood but tainted with a white looking Jesus though he was black.
Friday, October 29th 2010 at 4:32PM
jamal Abraham
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Mozell I agree most interesting.... My prayer begins... Our Father... I pray to GOD... All religions... Hindu, Jewish, Christian, Islam, Catholism.... are man made..... So who says one religion superseds another... Faith/Spirituality/Belief.... is what everyone should be acquring...
Friday, October 29th 2010 at 6:04PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Jamal.... You have really been on a kick about Christians and their PRACTICES... Be fair... Let's talk about Islamic Practices as well....
Friday, October 29th 2010 at 6:08PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Good post Brother...FOOD FOR THOUGHT...
Friday, October 29th 2010 at 10:34PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Intelligence, education and respect for all the prophets of God(Allah) prohibits me from slandering, defaming or speaking "any" untruths about them. Though I may not be a Christian, I am prevented from slandering Jesus. The only thing I can speak is the truth or what I know for a fact. Otherwise, it is saying to God, "Give me one of your curses...its just what I need....NO THANKS". All of God prophets from Noah to Muhammad deserves and earns my respect. It is just that Jesus was murdered which is a fact. And Europeans knowingly, tried to duplicate the "theatre" of noise phenomena in their holy practices inculcating African traditions and fanfare.
Friday, October 29th 2010 at 10:59PM
jamal Abraham
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OK, Cynthia....an Islamic practice is prayer which is an opportunity for a believer to humble themself and directly communicate with God. It should be performed 5 times daily. After performing that practice long enough one understands to "fear" no one but the ONE God.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 9:16AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal, Your blog is nonsense and the premise connecting Black Americans is also nonsense as far as Black America’s belief in Christianity is concern. White American people could care less about the religious beliefs and customs of the Africans. White America sincerely believes in Christianity and mandated that the slaves believe as they did. Naturally, when you believe in a religion given to you by a different race of people you have automatically submitted your will and spirit to that other race. It is an efficient way for the superior race or White American people to control the lesser ignorant inferior Negroes. In addition, when the dumb Negro people prophet comes the ignorant Negroes will not accept their anointed prophet. What I am saying also applies to Islam since the dumb Negroes are not Arabian people either. For the dumb Negroes to be truly free we must have our own genuine prophet, religion and a country. Am I making any sense? Mr. Elijah Muhammad was just as ignorant as any Christian Black preacher is since Elijah believed in Islam, but Elijah was not an Arab man. Likewise, the Black Christian preacher believes in Jesus, but is not a Jewish man. You, Jamal is as ignorant as all out doors since you believe in Islam, but is not an Arab man either. Have I made my point? I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. Everything that I say is true and everything that I say will happen is going to happen. Black Americans are going to inherit a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country to worship God, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. Our true religion is LIFE as Islam is the true religion of the Arab people. Tell me what you think.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 12:32PM
Harry Watley
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But don't let Harry have a word?
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 12:33PM
Adam Fate
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Harry, according to your logic...a chinese that accepts Islam is ignorant; a Indonesian that accepts Islam is ignorant; a Russian that accepts Islam is ignorant; a Malaysian that accepts Islam is ignorant; a Phillipinian that accepts Islam is ignorant and a Somalian that acepts Islam is Ignorant because neither are Arabs. ...can you now see how ignorant yourself appear. Again, Islam is a universal religion.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 12:44PM
jamal Abraham
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We are not mocking Jesus, only pointing out how is departure from earth is differant than the only persons sent by almighty God. Jesus left by murder...where was God's protection like he exerted to all of his other annointed ? It turns out that Jesus gave up because he know mental telepathy so could have gotten away before the authorities came for him.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 1:02PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal, You said this, “Harry, according to your logic...a chinese that accepts Islam is ignorant; a Indonesian that accepts Islam is ignorant; a Russian that accepts Islam is ignorant; a Malaysian that accepts Islam is ignorant; a Phillipinian that accepts Islam is ignorant and a Somalian that acepts Islam is Ignorant because neither are Arabs. ...” You are absolutely right. Any one that believe in a religion that their own prophet did not give them, but especially believe in a religion of another prophet that is racially different from themselves are extremely ignorant people. I do not think that you truly understand what I am saying. Every prophet is limited to his own race and that prophet does not have jurisdiction over other races of people. No true prophet ever said that God send them to races other than their own race. In fact, God allowed Jesus to be crucified because later in his mission he began to address the gentiles because he could not handle the rejection of his own Jewish people. It is wrong and sinful for anyone to believe in a religion of other people. It is as if you do not appreciate the religion that God has prescribed for you. Tell me what you think.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 1:05PM
Harry Watley
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Christianity was forced down the black American's throat during slavery. Black slaves could not choose between differant religions. One should wonder why was it so important for our slavemasters to make sure the slaves believed in Christianity. But, then the slavesmaster knew that the black slaves was not rational enough to put 1 and 1 together and come up with 2.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 1:48PM
jamal Abraham
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Everyone knows that to get an engineering degree in the United States of America at any of the major colleges, a requirement is drafting. Little Abraham has employed drafting in everyone of my jobs since working at IBM. Most engineers use AutoCad version 2008. If you are lucky, engineers will try to specify for version 2010 AutoCad. But, there is no work around. My design drawings go out to nobody. There was a time we required SIZE D or SIZE E drawings. Buy, today, we can store engineering drawings on Memory disc including Flash Disc. These things understood and well in our possession and being developed. They do not pay me six figures income for talking. I have built more electro-mechanical systems then you could ever imagine. Unfortunately, they make us electrical engineers sign forms upon employment that gives the white man employer total patent rights to our designs. Thats bad, and I am aware of it. That is why, Nation Building exists. It is an opportunity for black Americans to invest in an organization that will make things that will benefit black people. There is no work around it. You should want to invest in Nation Building for the sake of you and your family and your loveones.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 3:03PM
jamal Abraham
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Design engineers most sell their design solution to engineering all the time. That is the only part of talk in the engineering profession. The rest is action. There is no profession more action driven then engineering. That is why so few black Americans; men or women ; get a degree in such a discipline. Not only that, most are unaware what an engineer actually does. For example, in my current job, we design variable frequency drives that turn a motor that turns a motor which pumps water through a nuclear reactor that produces steam that turns a turbine which generates electricity for business, homes and city government. God does not choose a leader which is incapable..... ever !
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 3:10PM
jamal Abraham
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ok Jamal... I agree Christianity was forced on Africans... However, today WE are allowed freedom of religion, freedom of Choice.... Ass for Christ and his death... From the old testament, it spoke of a Messiah who would be .... and whom would be tormented punished and killed. You have a prophet... ministeral leader.... so do Christians..... There are so many practices among Christians.... Missionary Baptist, Primitive Baptist, Free Will Baptist, Independent Baptist, General Baptist, Southern Baptist.... and the list goes on... Methodist, Presbytarian, Episcopalian, Catholics, Pentecoastal.... the list goes on and on...
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 3:20PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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after Christ death.... he commissioned his followers to preach the gospel... there willl not be another savior, prophet, or leader for his people... until the rapture... when he comes and everyone will be judged according to his/her deeds.... we should only expect men of God to speak, teach, the word....
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 3:27PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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The point to this blog is that Jesus NEVER mentioned the word Christianity. That name NEVER came out of his mouth. IT is the Europeans that came up with that name. Jesus was speaking to the Jews in the first book of John Chapter 8 verse 37 " I know that you are descendants of Abraham: yet you look for an opportunity to kill me, because there is no place in ou for my word. I declare wht I have seen in the Father"s presence: as for you , you should do what you have heard from teh Father." They answered him, " Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you weere Abraham's children, you would be doing what Abraham did. but now you are trying to kill me, a man who has told yu the truth that I heard from God. That is not what Abraham did. you are indeed doing what your father does. " They said to him, We are not illegitimate children; we have one father, God himself. " Jesus said to them, " If God were your Fathr , you would love me, for I came from God and now I am here. I did not come on my own, but he sent me. Why do you not understand what I say ? It is because you cann accept my word. You are from your father the devil, and you choose to do our father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his won nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. THIS IS WHAT JESUS SAID (LOOK IT UP) ....HIMSELF....WHEN TALKING TO THE WHITE PEOPLE......THE SAME PEOPLE THAT SHOOVED CHRISTIANITY DOWN BLACK AMERICANS THROAT THROAT DURING SLAVERY.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 3:29PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal.... how many Noble Peace Prize winners are Engineers??? Opposed to Mathematicians, Chemists, Physcists, Philosophers, Doctors......
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 3:33PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Have you ever wondered what my objective for even blogging or the nation building initiative on this and other sites. It is not so much for members to nation building as it is to public awareness. There is only maybe a dozen BIA members that comment. Most blacks are half scared to express themselves and easily intimidated and then lack guts. But, website is cheap and the coverage gets into the millions of viewers.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 4:00PM
jamal Abraham
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Saint: Muslims do not try to conjur back up the dead; that is not part of the Islamic religion. It was not the muslims that killed Jesus that is for sure. And there is no getting around what Jesus said about the Jews. That they were a bunch of murderers and liars which they are. So I agree with Jesus. Jesus had no unkind words to say about Islam or muslims. It is only ignorant black Americans that have something dumb or stupid to say about Islam. When Islam was developing in America in the 50s and 60s there was so much black pride in America. Islam fosters black pride not Christianity or Judaism. I was off of religion for a while on BIA until I started to see more blogs bashing Islam. If one wants to speak of Christianity then speak out it without bashing Islam. If one wants to speak about Judaism or Black Hebrew Israelites then speak about it. But if a jew bashes Islam or a christian bashes Islam then they will hear from little Abraham. Period.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 5:01PM
jamal Abraham
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In the Holy Quran Chapter 33 verse 40 it is made clear: "Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets." And Allah is ever Knower of all things. Thanks to prophet Muhammad, the seal of the prophets, we have the Holy Quran for the world to enjoy. Thanks to Messenger Elijah Muhammad, we have Message to the Black Man and an example of what can be done by one with a 3rd grade education.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 5:07PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal I think we are all sensitive towards diverse religion.... Who is bashing Islam? Point the finger at whose to Blame... I take offense too anyone WHOM speaks out against my religious teachings.... especially when "one cannot point out true facts about MY CHURCH HOME AND HOW I WORSHIP" .... Now all of this is to say.... lets all show some respect towards religion period....
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 5:14PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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David... of course... religion is a very sensitive subject..... but we need to tread very lightly on this subject....
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 5:32PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Getting back to the subject of this blog, it has been over 2000 years and with all the hokus pokus, abra-cadabra, gospel hymms, church drummers, pastors sermons, spells, potions, speaking in tongue, fainting, falling out, heavy sweating, heavy farting, and high nausea.....no Jesus has been conjured up. Black Americans do themselves a great good to reason for themselves that Jesus is never going to come back from the grave. White people knowing this, attempt to fulfill all things that Jesus spoke that God would do. In that way the Europeans have set themselves up as God. God will bring you your daily bread.......white people bring black people their daily bring In heaven there will be sweet milk and honey.....white people provide us milk and honey
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 5:34PM
jamal Abraham
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Nation Building group is the entity that offers opportunity to get involved. It initiates a procedure separating the serious from the bull****.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 5:39PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal you are simply amazing.... remember....When Jesus said no one comes to the Father except through me (john 14:6)!!!
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 5:42PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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O Corey my young brother... please stay the way you r.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 6:12PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Reason it like this. Say you and your family have valuables in your house. You'all invite friends over for a ceremony. It is so much fun. But, while you are have fun and enjoying the festivities including trying to contact the dead...some people come into your house and take your family valuables and leave behind nothing but a belief that says turn your cheek and pray for those that dispitefully abuses you. .....now, who is the winner ? Reason it for youself...as that is what has and is happening to Africa.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 6:12PM
jamal Abraham
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Corey, Everyone know that Christianity came out of the Middle East and was established in Africa well before it spread to Europe. Well almost everyone.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 6:17PM
Adam Fate
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David...I sent you a group invite....check it out. As far as Corey.....sounds like you have a good heart, but, perhaps in denial....the last I checked on my American money, there is a picture of a white man...not any black man nor Jesus nor Muhammad nor Moses. So it is In the white man we trust according to that philosophy.....Sorry, I love myself and my heritage better than that.....not ready to throw up the white flag and surrender......NO THANKS.....I am NO COWARD. Mamy may have Papa may have but BLESSED is the child that has their own. "to coin a phrase "
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 6:17PM
jamal Abraham
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Think of it like this...you cannot love God and the Devil at the same time and place. Islam is about loving black. Christianity is about loving white. Now, I must admit someone of these white women look pretty darn good but, it is only temporary. After about 30 they start to age real fast where the black women stays moist and tender looking much longer. Meaning love of white is only temporary but loving yourself and your heritage and your ancestry is more lasting. David over 90% of the American Muslims are converted Christians. That is why we speak to black christians.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 6:37PM
jamal Abraham
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?? is that why an ex muslim boyfriend thought he could TRY to knock the heck out of me?? wow.... And further more Jamal... I am so not into spooky stuff... we don't even celebrate Halloween... it's a pagan way of celebrating evil...
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 6:39PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Jamal... did the Muslims love Brother MalcolmX? Christisanity is about loving humanity.. and living a life that which is pleasing to GOD... whom is of no race!!
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 6:52PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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in the end we are going to be judged according to our deeds.... not which religion we have choosen to follow.... BUT how we lived our life on earth...
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 6:54PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Theistic Satanism, also known as Conservative Satanism, Traditional Satanism, Spiritual Satanism, and originally just Satanism, is a form of Satanism with the primary belief that Satan is an actual deity or force to revere and/or worship. Other characteristics of Theistic Satanism may include a belief in magic, witch craft. Christians do not practice this belief, nor do christians condone this form of evil worship.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 7:01PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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David ...that is another blog...about 9/11. Messenger Elijah Muhammad taugh American Muslims that we would not have to fight the blue-eyed devil for the Muslims overseas would take care of that. Therefore 9/11 is not that big a surprise to a Muslim. They struck the heart of America .....right at the wall street nerve center of America....pretty clever I would say.....Again....that is another blog.....Cowardice will never earn a people a nation....So yes....it is the Muslims that are taking the fight to the caucasian. Black Christians have been trained to fear the white man....and turn their cheek for the white man.....and pray for them.....huH
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 7:07PM
jamal Abraham
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Cynthia....you are right....God will not judge humanity based on which religion but on your deeds...I merely bring these things out to keep the playing field level. As there are not that many BIA members that defend Islam. Since this is a Christian nation, naturally there will be more Christians than Muslims...That should be obvious.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 7:09PM
jamal Abraham
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Yes, David, Chapter 9 of the Holy Quran is all about fighting with those that fight with you...no question about that.....How do you think that God will break the yoke that bonds the black Americans to the slavemaster...through osmosis.....no there is the war of Armageddon...which is the between war between Islam and infidel.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 7:12PM
jamal Abraham
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This blog is about the African tradition of trying to conjur up the dead and we wonder why Africa is so behind all other continents on the planet earth. With their foolish traditions...I visited Africa...it was not foolish hokus pokus science that built the Sphinx or Pyramids but highly skilled scientists and they were black. But the Europeans found out a weakness of black people as all adversaries do....like in Chess...The weakness of trying to conjur up the dead. And they hated Jesus because he told the Jew/white man that they had to be born again because they were of their father....the devil. They did not want to be born again...they wanted to go being a bunch of liars and murderers....so they murdered Jesus and had the dumb black Africans find joy in trying to conjuring him back up from the dead. Black Americans find more joy in conjuring Jesus up then in knowing who killed him. Even today, blacks want to find the party...where is the party ? ....Well, blacks can party..they can sing their beautiful church hymms.....there is no Jesus being conjured up...you can't change science to appease bull****......the universe is based on natural laws which do not change and have not changed in millions of years....when a person dies...they do not come back...even if the white man tells you differant.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 8:07PM
jamal Abraham
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As a black Christian.... I am taught to fear NO MAN.... and to love and show compassion.... I don't know where you come up with this stuff about Christians loving the white man.. and all that ...... Cynthia Merrill Artis... does not idolize any human prophets, preachers, leaders, teachers..... Thy shall have no other God before HIM.... Jesus Christ... was HOLY... he was sent by GOD his SON in flesh.... John 1:1... In the Beginning was the WORD..... The WORD was with GOD!! I can understand the level playing field.... but not all that you are saying about Christians are not fact based comments towards us all....
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 8:13PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Hello Dummies, It is pitiful that one bunch of ignorant Blacks claiming to be Christians are in conflict with another ignorant bunch of Blacks claiming to be Muslims when neither religion belongs to you all dumdass Blacks. Religions are given to a people by their anointed prophets from God. In addition, prophets are racially different. Therefore, you dumb Blackass Negroes should be inquiring about a prophet that is of your own race, stupid. Prophet Mohammed was Arab, Prophet Abraham was Hebrew, but Prophet Harry is Black as you all are yet you knuckleheads suck-up to prophets unlike yourselves. Are not you all stupid? You all know that what I am saying makes sense! Tell me what you think.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 8:44PM
Harry Watley
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This blog is about how the foolish African traditions are being incorporated into the Christian religion to conjur up a dead man and black Americans haven't a clue they are being deceived. Flocking to that church every Sunday when half of the black preachers are homes*xual and the other half suck the blood out of poor inner city blacks. Trying to conjur up Jesus is getting old...when will black Americans realize that hokus pokus with a choir and organ and banjo don't work.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 9:03PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal... Christians are not trying to riase Jesus.... HE HAS ALREADY ARISEN....
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 9:07PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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It does not matter what a person's religion is; Jesus was murdered and he was murdered by the Roman(white people) authority. The Jews hated Jesus and turned him over. Either he was murdered or he was not murdered. The fact is is that Jesus was murdered. And it was NOT by Muslims.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 9:07PM
jamal Abraham
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banjo.... now I haven't been to a church with a banjo being played.... @Harry.... sorry no more self proclaimed prophets.... Christ said no more.... Until the Rapture when he comes to judge ALL People on Earth.... So now.... the word has already spoke of fake preachers, teachers, leaders, coming in HIS NAME
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 9:10PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Cynthia...in our back yard growing up, we planted pear seeds. I told my friends later that year that a pear tree had risen. My friends asked me how did I know...well for one thing, I told them I CAN SEE IT. And then I invited them to my house and they saw the pear tree for themselves. Imagining something that is not there is the voodoo type of African science that caused them to fall. If Jesus arisen then all eyes including yours and mine would see him but not in some imaginative world of the mind unknown to all but the hokus pokus specialists.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 9:16PM
jamal Abraham
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aaa but that's the substance of faith... dear Jamal.... believing what your eyes cannot see.... I know there is a higher power.... because of my faith....
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 9:19PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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In that case David has arisen, because I have a some David in me. Also, Noah has arisen because I have some of Noah's ways in me....ect.....its all fabrication...one should be able to separate the real from the unreal and the fact from the fiction in life....less they be sold a wooden nickel. Anyone claim they saw Jesus should get on "headline news" becaue no-one else has.
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 10:37PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal.... are you saying that you do not believe in the RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST? That the died, spent three days in hell fighting the devil.... and arose on the third day? Even though the BIBLE quotes him saying that he will rise... And Lazarus... who was raised from the dead?
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 10:44PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Cynthia..do you hear the harp playing...it sounds so enchanting..this blog is about the facts of what happened. Jesus was murdered. Now you, me and others can rattle for the next 50 years and loose he point..that there is a murderer on the loose. And the rhetoric is taking us away from the truth of what happened. No other man of God divinely sent was murdered but Jesus....what caused the One God to take HIS PROTECTION AWAY. Jesus got sick and tired of those JEWS and white folks...they sought to kill him like an animal. It was not right...and it was not fair....only for his righteous teachings. Now, singing and dancing and blowing smoke with mirrors is going to bring him back...but, in the mean time we can pay special attention to the words of Jesus and learn WHAT HE DID SAY WHILE HE WAS ALIVE.....that is the BEST we can do with JESUS>
Saturday, October 30th 2010 at 11:41PM
jamal Abraham
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That's what they do, the American Muslims put out out arms at our waiste and open our hands and stand upright, slightly bowing our heads.....we are more up-to-date. I hear what you are saying and you have a point. There are sects in Islam as there are sects in Christianity. But, we are not trying to conjur up someone from the grave.
Sunday, October 31st 2010 at 12:29AM
jamal Abraham
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nOW THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED ISLAMIC PRACTICE...DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY DIFFERENT ISLAMIC PRACTICES ARE PRACTICED IN AMERICA ALONE?!? (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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...ANOTHER QUESTION ...ANYONE EVER HAD A LOVE ONE OR ANYONE DIE AND THEY JUST GET WIPED OUT OF YOUR MINDS BECAUSE THEY ARE DEAD..."I" AKS BECAUSE MY MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER HAVE BEEN DEAD OVER 58 YEARS AND THEY STILL HAVE A PROMINATE PLACE IN MY DAILY LIFE AND IN MY PRAYERS ON A DAILY BASIS. (SMILE)
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ROBINSON IRMA
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