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REV. JEREMIAH WRIGHT GIVES STRAIGHT TALK ABOUT MEN WHO "MESSED UP" (1777 hits)


DENVER--A pastor who wants to light a fire under the men in his congregation knew just the firebrand to help him do it.

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., one of the most respected and provocative preachers in black church life, jolted Shorter Community African Methodist Episcopal Church on Pentecost on Sunday with some straight talk about men.

"There's a prophet in the house," said Shorter's pastor, the Rev. Timothy Tyler, by way of introduction for his famous guest preacher.

Wright, with his trademark heady brew of theology, politics and humor, drew laughter, shrieks and even gasps from a full house with a ribald sermon on the biblical story of King David's s*xual impropriety, attempted coverup and its tragic consequences.

"David was annointed by God to be king, but he messed up," Wright said. "The higher the levels, the greater the devils. David's words have blessed millions of people, but David still messed up."

Wright, pastor emeritus of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ, is widely known as the minister whose charged rhetoric became a exploding powderkeg in 2008 for one of his former congregants, then-presidential candidate Barack Obama .

Tyler said he sees men like Wright and the church playing the key role in reversing disturbing trends among black men in the Denver area and the nation.

"Many of our homes are single-female-parent homes. Many mothers are divorced, but many never married," Tyler said in a recent interview with The Denver Post.

"We're in very volatile times right now. Men get crushed in the midst of all the economic problems," Tyler said. "We also have an education crisis — a shortage of African-American men going to college ... or even finishing high school."

Tyler, who's known Wright for most of his adult life, also had Wright lead a retreat for about 75 men Friday and Saturday at the YMCA of the Rockies in Estes Park.

Before the church can make a difference in men's lives, Tyler told The Post, you have to get them in the door. His female parishioners outnumber the men by roughly a 3-1 ratio in the 1,200-member church.

"We have to find a way to bring men back to church," Tyler said.

Inviting a megawatt speaker like Wright is one of those ways. Tyler said other hooks include giving men active roles in causes and projects because men want to do things, not just hear things.

"There's a two-pronged approach here," Tyler said. "We need to encourage our older men to get their acts together. And then they need to be mentors for our younger men."

Tyler, a divorced parent with two children, 16 and 19, both living out of state, knows firsthand the challenges of fulfilling the responsibilities of fatherhood.

"It gives me a passion for it," Tyler said.

Wright's Sunday message on s*xual misconduct was topical, given recently revealed high-profile missteps and coverups by former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and U.S. Rep. Anthony Weiner of New York.

King David, though handpicked by God to lead, not only committed adultery and impregnated Bathsheba, Wright said, the king also attempted to hide his sin by manipulating her husband Uriah so he might believe the child was his.

"When a man messes up, he also messes somebody else up," Wright said. "When a man messes up he tries to cover up, when what he needs to do is 'fess up."

Men also messed up by committing acts of domestic violence — physical and verbal abuse — and through addiction, Wright said.

Once a sinner repents, God will provide the consequences and the mercy, he said.

"His grace is greater than all our sins," Wright said.

Early in Sunday's service, Tyler called on the Shorter congregation to defend and support New Hope Baptist Church Deacon and Denver Mayor-elect Michael Hancock, who has responded with emphatic denials to recent media inquiries about whether he's been a client of an escort service or prostitute.

"Mayor Hancock belongs to us," Tyler told the congregation. "Don't you let the media kill him."
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Monday, June 13th 2011 at 10:10AM
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His message on men who messed up was topical, given the recent Weiner scandal....
Monday, June 13th 2011 at 10:12AM
Siebra Muhammad
Hello to All,

I will again repeat that Black America's only permanent solution is to accept the offer of God that we become a sovereign people.

Dr. King the night before he was assassinated said that God has allowed him to go to the mountaintop. Dr. King said that he looked he saw us (Black Americans) in our Promised Land. He concluded by saying that he may not get there with us; but, we as a people of going to get to the Promised Land.

Why should we not be sovereign free having everything of our own? Have Black Americans not earned the divine right to be sovereign free on a reasonable and fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Have Black Americans not earned the divine right to have a prophet and God in our affairs that our problems be permanently resolved?

Why do you Negroes continued to go down the same path that Black leaders have went down hundreds of years ago no positive result? The definition of crazy is to do the same thing and expect a different result, am I right. When are you Negroes going to get some common sense?

All that you all are doing is trying to impress each other that you all are intelligent and saying the same thing Frederick Douglass said over a hundred years ago. Is it not about time you were Negroes get smart?

Rev. Jeremiah Wright can do nothing for us because he is not anointed. I feel this man that he wants Black Americans to become a sovereign people. But, it is not through him that we will be sovereign. It will be through me since I am Black America's first genuine prophet.

What say you?


Tuesday, June 14th 2011 at 1:42AM
Harry Watley
Hello Harry,
Anointing was a physical act performed by others. For instance, it was not King David that poured oil on his own head.
Tuesday, June 14th 2011 at 10:14AM
Steve Williams
Hello Steve,

You said that anointing is a physical act and you said that King David did not pour oil on his own head.

Then, did God anointed Moses? I don't think you understand what spiritual anointing is.

So, what is your point?

Wednesday, June 15th 2011 at 2:00AM
Harry Watley
Hello Harry,

You are constantly saying that the Bible is not the basis for your religion. At the same time you tell us you are like Moses. So what is our frame of reference when discussing anointing versus prophesying? I can use the Bible to show how the different words were applied, but only if you agree to this frame of reference. If you do not agree, and we have only what is in your head, since your book of life is not yet written, I will be at an unfair advantage.
Wednesday, June 15th 2011 at 8:20AM
Steve Williams
The Jewish people that wrote the Bible and me (Black Americans) are two different people.

I am like Moses in the sense that Moses was anointed to lead the children of Israel out of bondage and slavery in Egypt and I was anointed to lead Black Americans out of bondage and slavery if you will in White America and into our own sovereign country.

Anointing versus prophecy are two different animals.

You were making the point that anointing is a physical act. You back it up by saying that it was not King David that poured the oil on his own head. I then asked you did God anointed Moses?

Right now you have not answered whether Moses was anointed and was it God that anointed Moses. So, can my question to be answered?

How would you describe Moses anointing by God versus King David physically being anointing by Samuel.

If you're not going to answer my questions I will discontinue this dialoguing. I don't like to be running around not knowing where I'm going. I like coherent and cohesive dialoguing. I don't like jumping around.

Would you please answer my questions!



Wednesday, June 15th 2011 at 2:12PM
Harry Watley
"I" CHANT (pray) that one day we begin to reject the Catholic priest's molesting our children as a part of our social norm because priest in America are mostly GAY but just not gay and Black as a rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (nup)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...OOPS LETS NOT FORGET THE CONVICTED OF CHILD MOLESTING WHITE NONJEWISH CONGRESSMEN...(N...U...P)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...PLEASE OVER LOOK ME WHEN i GET SO CARRIED AWAY I TEND TO FORGET THIS IS A CHRISTIAN NATION AND IT IS CORRECT TAHT WE CONDEM A JEW FOR NOT COMMITING A PHYSICAL ACT OF s*x BUT CAN OVER LOOK THE 'THOU SHALL NOT KILL WHEN A WHITE MAN KILLS AN UNARMED IN NOW WAY A PHYSICAL TREAT TO HIM IS MADE A HERO FOR GETTING RID OF ONE MORE OF THOSE NATURAL BORN KILLER *****S MAYBE??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
tHERE IS A PROGRAM ON the international history channel called Naked Archology and its host is a Jew...and it was on the program that I learned King David's greatest problem was his insatiable taste for Muslim women. (smile)

And, we all know what the king wants is law or death to those who oppose these laws. and, I will repeat, 'all want to get to heaven but son't want to die to get there".looooooooooooooooooooool
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
You all know me and my belief in 'balance' so could a blance for men screwing up be applied to the right-wing allowing a Black token to run for president against our president in 2012? lol (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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