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Here we are in the 21st Century.....an age of advanced science, technology and internet. A person is able to capture the latest information at the click of a mouse. So why are so many Black Americans still deceived by the European Christian religion. Firstly, to call Christianity a religion is given more credit than it deserves. It offers black Americans a God that is dead for one. Then it promises black Americans a heaven after they die. It purports love of Jesus when it was the caucasian that murdered Jesus. It embodies churches throughout the land filled with choirs and drummers while beckoning some jargon that requires black Americans to turn their cheek when the former slavemasters kill us like the case of Trevon Martin. In short, The Christian BullSh_t is getting old.
Posted By: crutial clear
Monday, April 23rd 2012 at 3:56PM
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When you stop to think about all of the good things that the Christian Humanitarian has done you can recognize that the good might outweighs the bad. Is thee a method to the madness?.. Let us find out from the original bible if there were instructions on how a slave was to treat his master. How many religions stress this principle?
Monday, April 23rd 2012 at 11:03PM
Helen Lofton
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there is no such thing as 'black' outside of your heliocopterMarine, bsBTold mindset.....
what a bunch of negroid alias--
crutial?NYLAjackArsefrogPrinceBlagstiffany/kim/kenya/bsBTOLD
Tuesday, April 24th 2012 at 8:57AM
powell robert
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Hello,
Why do you knotheards fuss and fight with each other over the Christian and Islamic religion, which do not belong to us Black Americans to begin with?
Black America's religion is called LIFE.
Tuesday, April 24th 2012 at 9:12AM
Harry Watley
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Helen...seems to be the only one intelligent enough to make a credible comment so I will respond to her. Sure, the Christian religion has done some good for Black Americans. However, the damage is lightyears ahead of the good. Why..............because so a man thinkest so is he.....to coin a popular phrase and book. It stunts the growth of black Americans as human beings which should by creation be able to provide for ourselves. Much like if you keep your grown daughter or son in your house long past the age of 18. They soon begin to depend on mom and dad at 20, 30, 40, etc and deduce that that is normal when it is not. Black Americans have likewise grown to believe that is perfectly normal to depend on caucasian society in America for clothing, food and shelter as long as we have the money to pay for it not knowing that we are subliminally setting up white people as our GOD.
Tuesday, April 24th 2012 at 10:43AM
crutial clear
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Saint....why pick a fight with a person that has not started one with you......that is no way to live.
Tuesday, April 24th 2012 at 10:45AM
crutial clear
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Harry, your religion of life is fit for the termites
Tuesday, April 24th 2012 at 10:46AM
crutial clear
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robert.............the two basic extremes of electric charge is "positive" and negative". Much like the two basic extremes of races are black and white. One is either a member of the black family or the white family and that is it.
Tuesday, April 24th 2012 at 10:48AM
crutial clear
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@Clear,
Please explain why you say Black America's religion is fit for the termlte. Have Black Americans ever had a religion of our own yet?
Please give us facts and sound reasoning rather than your feelings and opinions when replying, okay.
To say that my religion is fit for the termites is about your personally native feelings and not sound reasoning, get my point.
Tuesday, April 24th 2012 at 12:09PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, Black Americans actions in general is in "consequence" to something. So lets look at their general actions. Black American consume the white man's goods, partake heavily into sports, thanking Jesus when they score points(as if God is concerned about their touchdown or homerun) and are paid crumbs from the rich man's table. These actions are considered OK because of their belief system which is Christianity in the majority. The religion that you call LIFE is of no consequence to Black Americans which is why it is deemed more fitting to "other" than human beings, for example termites.
Tuesday, April 24th 2012 at 1:32PM
crutial clear
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What I was trying to say is that the conditioning of the slave mentality is found in bible verses.
The slaves did not know how to read, so they were reprimanded by God with these particular scriptures.
Tuesday, April 24th 2012 at 2:58PM
Helen Lofton
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The Only thing, Helen, is that the black Americans conditioning came as a direct result of a Kidnapping and holding us captive "against" our will until the perpetrators had implanted their religion in us and determined that we had been made incapable of thinking for ourselves. But, yes, we could use that argument 200 to 400 years ago about our inability to read properly..........however......not today in the 21st Century. By now, the former slaves should be able to read.
Tuesday, April 24th 2012 at 3:22PM
crutial clear
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Saint........It is not a requirement for me to show a picture to be a member of this website. So, I exercise that right. What Ican say in truth is that I am Not David, Robert, Harry or Tiffany.
Tuesday, April 24th 2012 at 3:26PM
crutial clear
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Did David say "STAND YOUR GROUND TO THESE IDIOTS AND THERE DELUSIONAL THOUGHTS ! " That is totally funny.
Years ago, when I was in my twenty's I became an obsessed book reader, The subject was more-so about the philosophy of religion and God. When I first read the statement that Jesus and Moses were sorcerers, I couldn't force myself to even consider it to be true. That would mean that any one that steps up to call themself gods prophet would have to have power to back it up.
Wednesday, April 25th 2012 at 12:10PM
Helen Lofton
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I would no venture to call Jesus and Moses sorcerers, though the Bible puts a mystical slant to events during their sojourn. But, Christianity takes it a further and calls gods prophet, God himself........elimating GOD the creator all-together. Which is the reason for the reference to Bull Crap.
Wednesday, April 25th 2012 at 5:18PM
crutial clear
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I recently started going to the library and checking out books again (not books on religion). I came out of the library one day and found that my car had bird **** all over it.I looked around to see what other cars had the same mess on them and didn't see any. It was something like out of a movie. Am I suppose to believe this is a sign from God to stop reading books, or birds trained like in the movies.
Wednesday, April 25th 2012 at 5:50PM
Helen Lofton
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your playing yourself and got deleted people are watchint and the jokes is on you jack /snake jakes robertpowellson you need attachments now run and tell that snitch .....
broke bum get a job ! unemployment is running out oooooo you thought i dident know !
therte is owgbfv- more news at 11,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,deleted !! hahaha lmbao
Thursday, April 26th 2012 at 6:39AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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your playing yourself and got deleted people are watching and the jokes is on you jack /snake jakes robertpowellson you need attachments now run and tell that snitch .....
broke bum get a job ! unemployment is running out oooooo you thought i dident know !
therte is owgbfv- more news at 11,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,deleted !! hahaha lmbao
there are 10000 people clowning you everyday i will show you the big picture soon and then you will leave this site for good !!! watch ...look at the numbers go up click click click
Thursday, April 26th 2012 at 6:42AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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mrTHE BLOG KING DAVID JOHNSON SRprinceFrogLANYcrutialClear?
i asked you long ago was crutial, crucial or just CLOWN ghettoEnglish?
all your cartoonDerriere had to do was stay CLEAN for 1 day, and i would have left YOURreggie site............but the negroStereotype is GENERATIONAL Ignorance of history, religion and INTELLIGENCE.............smashed..................
Thursday, April 26th 2012 at 8:42AM
powell robert
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Mr. Clear,
You seem to think that Black Americans were kidnapped from Africa, but we were not. Black Americans are a new race of people. It took White Americans approximately 300 years to bring Black Americans into existence. Black Americans were born out of the ashes of plantation slavery when White Americans breed themselves with their slaves repeatedly over 300 years produced a new race of people. We are niether White nor are we Africans.
The part of this continent that we will inherit that we will call our very country with boarders will be from N.C. into the Gulf of Mexico and from the Miss. River into the Atlantic Ocean.
White Americans will be hard-pressed at first, but they will come around to accepting our sovereignity. After-all, it was White Americans that orchestrated our existence and now God has stepped in to finially and permanently take us out of White America's grip so we can have a real life of our own and this is why our religion is named LIFE.
Thursday, April 26th 2012 at 9:58AM
Harry Watley
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toying with you got you going in all directions ,,,,smashing the snakerobertsonjakes
never know what might happen next ....your in for a big surprise and then you leave this site for good ! you have turned the people against you !! dumb and dumber too funny !
jokes on you jakes ,,,everyone is laughing at you ! and your slip is showing in your writing !!
Friday, April 27th 2012 at 7:10AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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When I think of robert, dumb old fool comes to mind. Say something that makes since or just turn
over and croak.
Friday, April 27th 2012 at 12:09PM
crutial clear
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Harry, the effects of Christianity on Black Americans run deep. It allows for fruitless worship and extending our hands out to the Caucasian for everything. The only real way of intercepting the sting from the Christian effects is to grow a nation separate from white America and 'prove" what can be done from black Americans rolling up their sleeves and get to building for ourselves.
Friday, April 27th 2012 at 12:13PM
crutial clear
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robert talking to himself ! this **** is funny ! lmao
Friday, April 27th 2012 at 12:14PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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the 'black' is a FRAUD
the 'christian' is a FRAUD
and the mrsiebraTHEBLOGlionKINGDAVIDJOHNSONSRLANYcrutialClear is a FRAUD
does that make any sense to an olde fraudMarine?
Friday, April 27th 2012 at 4:33PM
powell robert
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your writings are starting to look alike ..careful
Friday, April 27th 2012 at 4:52PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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OK
Sūrat Al-Infitār
(The Cleaving or Separating) LXXXII
In the Name of Allāah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. When the heaven is Opened.
2. When the stars have fallen and scattered.
3. When the seas overwhelm.
4. And when the graves are forced to bring out their contents,
5. Then a person will know what he has done of good and what he has left behind of bad.
6. O Mankind! What has made you careless about your Lord, the Most Generous?
7. Who created you, fashioned you perfectly, and gave you due proportion.
8. In whatever form He willed, He put you together.
9. But you deny Ad-Dīn (AlIslaam, Monotheism the Day of Recompense).
10. Over you are appointed angels in charge of Mankind to watch you,
11. Kirāman (Honourable) Kātibīn writing down (your deeds),
12. They know all that you do.
13. The Abrār (the pious Believers of Monotheism) will be in Delight (Paradise);
AND
Sūrat Al-Ahzāb
(The Confederates) XXXIII
In the Name of Allāah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. O Prophet Mohamed. Keep your duty to Allāah, and do listen to the disbelievers and the hypocrites, Allāah is Ever All-Knower, All-Wise.
2. Follow that which is revealed to you from your Lord. Allāah is Well-Acquainted with what you do.
3. And put your trust in Allāah, and Sufficient is Allāah as a Wakīl (Disposer of affairs).
4. Allāah has not made for any man two hearts inside his body.
Friday, April 27th 2012 at 5:37PM
powell robert
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You preach fake religion and there is a room at Bellevue with your name on it, ROBERT should stop trying to fit in the shoes of a real Muslim , for that is an impossible task for him. Instead, he could start listening to our real Muslim sisters and brothers , and educating himself about what he should have learnt years ago while he was a student in school. He could do a world of good by being more of a listener, and a facilitator forA good and charitable causes, but not a speaker for Islam !
he needs to be in a straight jacket !
Friday, April 27th 2012 at 6:01PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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"Late Islamic masculinization of the Arabian Goddess, Al-Lat or Al-Ilatthe Allatu of the Babyloniansformerly worshipped at the Kaaba in Mecca. It has been shown that 'the Allah of Islam' was a male transformation of 'the primitive lunar deity of Arabia.' Her ancient symbol the crescent moon still appears on Islamic flags, even though modern Moslems no longer admit any feminine symbolism whatever connected with the wholly patriarchal Allah."
Indeed, the Koran verifies Allah's lunar or night-sky status: "Remember the name of our Lord morning and evening; in the night-time worship Him: praise Him all night long." (Q 76:23) And at Q 2:189: "They question you about the phases of the moon. Say: 'They are seasons fixed for mankind and for the pilgrimage.'"
Friday, April 27th 2012 at 6:16PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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@Clear,
What you are saying about growing a nation separate from White America has already started and is going to happen. But, it can only be done through a prophet God has anointed for us. Obviously, some-one out of the 41million of us is going to be out prophet, right. Just like some-one out of the children of Israel had to be their prophet and that was Moses, right. So, the same thing must happen for us as well. Wnen a prophet is among the people then you know that God is amonng us as well as with us.
As far as Christainity is concern I had already told you that out real religion is LIFE. Our religion is about our own LIFE resurrection as a mentally people to a real people standing perpendicular. This as well can only through our very own prophet, Prophet Harry.
So, your grib about us believing in Christianity is use-less. You want to put-down our own religion and at the same fuss about us believing in Christianity. You are giving a push- pull arguement, which you sort of unbalance, am I right.
Saturday, April 28th 2012 at 4:07AM
Harry Watley
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crutial or mrsiebraBlogKingAntiAlIslaam FRAUD?
--- first your subject is the silliness or as you say, crap, of the three in one - antiSemtic religion of slaverAmericana and their 'black' discharges
----and now you go back to your original dislike, AlIslaam.............AlQur'aan
I am not NOR have i ever written that i am a speaker for AlIslaam...
BUT
of course I do print english meanings of the Original Arabic Words of the Creator of Adaam(as)
as for your two verses, AlHamdullillaahi RabilAlaameen----the moon is the Measure of the Creator of Adaam(as) and still identified with the Monotheistic Traditions and Histories of the Yahuda(jews) and the Muslims........................
of course the paganChristian europeans use a roman/greek/nordic/germanic Calendar...
I will though apologize to BIA for either bringing in the ciaFBIMarineblagging Fraud or just some dumbNegro ghettoMouth. I had forgotten over the years that the negro was STILL so ignorant AND i had thought the noiYOKOs would have read AlQur'aan by 2010.
but ALAS paganChristian americas, 'blackie/whitie'--- saviourHarry wishes to give you LIFE from the point of view of a selfProfessed 68IQ retard.......
crutial or mrsiebraBlogKingAntiAlIslaam FRAUD? = harryWatley
i must sincerely excuse myself from your antiThought writings EVENTHOUGH you could not keep clean for 1 day
you cartoons have became a constant boooooooooooooooore.................
Saturday, April 28th 2012 at 8:21AM
powell robert
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true, jamalLittle always commented............
Saturday, April 28th 2012 at 12:14PM
powell robert
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YOU SEE HOW NOW THEY HAVE TAKEN OVER YOU POST AND USED IT AS A PLACE TO CONTINUE
THERE DELUSIONAL PROPAGANDA AND LOOK AT THE RELIABILITY OF JAKES BEGGING FOR SUPPORT FROM A MAN/HALF THAT CLEARLY HAS FOR NO RESPECT FOR OUR SISTER SIEBRA ,
THIS IS THE PART WHEN YOU SEE ''NO STALKING ALLOWED AND FAKE FBI /JAKES /GOOGLE'' OR THE STORY OF MY SON AT 26 ENJOYING LIFE BUT JAKES IS 26 STALKING ON A SAT,AFTERNOON
JUST MARRIED ,( QUESTIONABLE ) AND WRITTING LIKE HE HAS LOST HIS MIND ,,HIM AND ROBERT BOTH ,,WHY ,,BECAUSE PEOPLE ALLOW IT AND I WONT ALLOW THEM TO ! WHEN YOU TAKE A STAND AGAINST THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR AND BULLYING IT WILL STOP !
THE BOY HAS STUCK HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH AGAIN ,,,THE MIND OF A MAD WHITE MAN ?
what Jakes is really doing is he cry out look at his writing ''Robert can you please grade my score'' ,''Robert your wisdom is needed'' ''Robert please be my daddy ''Robert please validate me i need to show that you support me Robert'' 'ROBERT answer me now'' this is the madness .
I know because jakes would email me and say the same thing only he would call me daddy,he would say ''daddy can you hurry and comment and back up what im saying'' !
if im lying im flying and i aint seen a bird all day ! let my GOD bare witness that my words are the truth or my kids rot in hell ! i know what im talking about ! watch how jakes will delet what he said or by past the truth !
Saturday, April 28th 2012 at 2:07PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Thanks JAKES for pointing out a few details about ROBERT I see your so psycho you dont care who you back stab ! THATS WHY IM NOT YOU DADDY ANY LONGER i seen the knife you left in your mother back !
Saturday, April 28th 2012 at 2:11PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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back to SUBJECT
the Greatness of the One of Virgin Birth, IsaIbnMaryam is Treasured by all Muslims
the european3-1 thing of latinJesus is another thing - not Religious
BUT
mrBIG????????????????????
the only GIBBERISH i have read in a month is YOU, or WHATEVER --youIS............
saintJake is a constantly busy, positive, intelligent, clean(allNight?), respectful and researcherSupreme, writer, in my opinion.......
again, big????????----marine or whatever ---- you state that yourSiebra writing is a Muslim
yet
ALL Muslims for 1460+ YEARS and the 2 BILLION worldwide Today -- BELIEVE ALQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
siebra claims a fardElijah paganChristian comboMan...........and does NOT follow AlQur'aan and Sunnah --- in 'its' OWN writing ----- and siebraWriting akafarakanMadoof BIA posts ......
i do not know the gender of the writer BUT that writer is NOT Muslim....i have known the farakhanMadoof .........so my opinion on him is Our Father Elijahs Family opinion -- he is not in AlIslaam and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)---he is not of the Muslim World Nation..
so i bully NO ONE>...........................
what a bore of ignorance to even lower my thinking to your ridiculousNegro ignorantStereotype.......................???
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 1:28PM
powell robert
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Whew...this is all over the place. Back to the blog topic at hand...
As-Salaam Alaikum Brother Crutial,
As long as there are Caucasians in this country, the majority of our Black American people will continue to believe in Christian religion. It's just like the Hon. Elijah Muhammad stated and I quote:
"The basic aim and purposes of the religion, Christianity, was to deceive other races, namely, the black, brown, yellow and red, to make an easy prey for the white race.
But today, you and I both see the powerless forces of Christianity unable to bring about peace among those who profess it.
Since Christian Europe and America cannot bring peace to their troubled world with all their satellite nations as helpers, what kind of peace can they make for us?
Their religion divides one against the other. This I am sure we all can agree upon. We must know self to gain self-respect. This will remove that old slave idea that the so-called Negroes cannot unite and build an independent nation on some of this good earth that we can call our own. Stop looking for others to help you in that in which you can help yourself.
The white man has made the black man lazy that he may rule and enslave him by producing and selling to him that which he can produce himself. But the white man knows that he has destroyed the black man's unity, and as long as the black man thinks he cannot love and unite with black, the white man knows that he has a permanent slave.
Come and let us unite under the crescent and do something for ourselves in the way of supporting our own needs. Go after some of this earth for our nation of 22 million here in North America. If it cannot be had here, there is plenty of earth elsewhere.
We want nothing short of a home on this earth that we can call our own -- not to be servants and slaves for other free nations.
Let us capture the market of our people by producing their needs. We cannot produce our needs on the soil of another."
Now, here we are with an opportunity to actualize the teachings of the Hon. Elijah Muhammad like never before. We can contact each other across the globe. If we really practiced these teachings we could have everything the Hon. Elijah Muhammad said we should have in a very short period of time. Instead, some of us do the exact opposite. All they understand is the white man's law.
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 4:36PM
Siebra Muhammad
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@Siebra,
How can you and others say that Christanity is a bull-**** religion when it is not your religion? Christianity is the offical religion of the European Gentiles and you-all are Black Americans a new race of people.
In other words, you-all are showing how stupid you-all are by putting the religion of the Caucasian people. Chiristainity came to them through Apostle Paul.
Stop making yourselves look stipud!
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 6:24PM
Harry Watley
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Wa-Alaikum-Salaam, Sis. Siebra
Always nice to hear your you. What you say is right on and unfortunately for our people is very true. The strange thing is that we, as a nation of people within a nation are more educated NOW then ever before. One would deduce that we should be better able to rationalize our existance in America and resolve the options available for our future.
Sure, the Hon. Elijah Muhammad spoke of our solution when it comes to what must be done. Black Americans seem to fear to do the right thing, they would have to change their religion from Christianity to Islam. I would be satisfied if black Americans could at least have enough resolve to figure out for themselves that what they have IS NOT WORKING AND THEY NEED TO TRY SOMETHING ELSE.
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 6:58PM
crutial clear
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robert.......you have no authority to speak on who and who is not a muslim. You sole authority is to speak as a fool which you have no problem in doing.
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 7:03PM
crutial clear
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WHAT IS AMUSING TO ME IS JAKES YOU WILL ALWAYS INVITE SOMEONE TO FICHE YOUR BATTLES !
i repeat JAKES THINKS EVERYONE IS WITH ME BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS HE WILL FIGHT YOU IF YOU DONT FOLLOW HIS LEAD ONE WORD !..... DELUSIONAL
OR IS HE RIGHT DID I SEND A HIT TEAM IN TO RIP HIM AND ROBERT IN HALF !
HUMM ,,,,,,I KNOW THE TRUTH DO YOU JAKES ?
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 7:13PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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THE LAUGHTER GOES ON !!
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 7:15PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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where is your fbi / goolge team jakes you know it all here is why everyone is falling out laughing at you jakes if i post my mother ,father sister brother ,kids and all my family members address and there phone numbers and place of business WHAT the hell will that do what will it prove
if you find them what will you be proving what what what ???
this is why you sound like a damn dumb dumb dumb ass,,,,,,
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 8:33PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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the laughter goes on ,,,,,funnnnnnny !
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 8:35PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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again,
ALL men and women have the authority to write or SAY:
Ashadullaaillaha Illallaahu, wa Ashaduanna Mohamed Rasoul Allaah...............
ALL men and women have the authority to believe as ALL Muslims from 1460+ years to todays 2 Billion Muslims believe AlQur'aan and Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
siebra, in her writing disagrees with AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
SHE/he/it is NOT a Muslim
crutial"?????? clearSilly if you agree with her the same to whatever gender 'crutial IS
again as for the Religion of the European --- ok --- for them----
this is america and THEIR kingJames Version of Events Made the soCalled 'black' concept...
and as siebra and the other european kingJamesers Quote are of paganChristian thought -- that is all they give others ---
the fool is the FRAUDER ----- youKingLaLaneNYfrogPrince
fools are generally clowns and cartoons............ the laughter of the marineBStold......
i just married an American MUSLIM sister from Africa --- to an American MUSLIM brother of Norwegian ancestry with AlQur'aan by the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
AlIslaam does NOT divide or make up people by pigment of skin, or color of eyes
AlIslaam does NOT use slaverAMericana paganChristian racialisticRacist Fraud thinking....
stop the FRAUD of the europeanVERSION of the Beauty of MONOTHEISTIC thought
stop the FRAUD of dividing on pigment --- how childish you are.......
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 9:16PM
powell robert
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REALLY ROBERT OK THEN how about this ,,Islam Is Paganism In Monotheistic Wrapping Paper.
Muhammad chose one god, from among hundreds of pagan gods, to be his one monotheistic god.
Islam is "Polytheism with a monotheistic veil". Islam is Repackaged Polytheism.
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 9:26PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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AlIslaam FAKE YOU BIG MONSTER HEAD
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 10:04PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Sūrat An-Nisāa
(The Women) IV
1. O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person - Adaam, and from Adaam - He created his wife [Hawwā], and from them both He created many men and women; and fear Allāah through Whom you demand your mutual rights, and do not cut the relations of the wombs (kinship). Surely, Allāah is Ever an All-Watcher over you.
19. O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will; and you should not treat them with harshness, that you may take away part of the Mahr you have given them, unless they commit open illegal s*xual intercourse; and live with them honourably. If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allāah brings through it a great deal of good.
this is the part that the european paganChristians took OUT of Monotheism with slaverAmericana 1492-1864
---- slaverAMericana 1492-1864 was the FRAUD word of The Creator of Adaam(as) to divide the Family of Adaam(as) and its discipleFRAUD like mrBlagPrinceFrogCrutial stereotypical lovers of the FAKE 'white' latinJesus the antithesis of IsaIbnMaryam and his prophetic Message from the Creator of Adaam(as)..........
and the MONSTER is the madeNegro, mrcrutialBlagNYLAJonestown, etc.......Siebra
Monday, April 30th 2012 at 8:43AM
powell robert
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@Siebra,
If you are a rational thinking person you must conclude that even giving all the credit to Elijah as you would like to see, Elijah was not God chosen simple because Mr. Fard and Elijah did not escort Black Americans into our very own land here or elsewhere as they said Black Americans needed and must have while they were alive, am I right. Therefore, these two men were phonies, right. You don't have to be a rocket sciencist to see what I am saying is true, right.
Moses escorted the children of Israel into their Promise Land in his life-time because Moses was a genuine prophet of the Israelities.
I said that I am Black America's first genuine prophet and that in my life-time Black Americans will inherit from N.C. into the water-way of the Gulf of Mexico and from the Miss. River into the Atlantic Ocean.
You can see that I am positive about where our land will be because God revealed it to me, but Elijah was not sure since he said our land could be here or elsewhere, am I right.
So, again Elijah was not the one! I am the chosen ONE!
Monday, April 30th 2012 at 9:50AM
Harry Watley
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Harry, get outta here with that yakety-yakety-yak...you should remove your organ of manhood and seek a s*x change IMMEDIATELY for you are not even qualified to be a prophet let alone be a man!
To Robert, If you have spent YEARS studying the Al-Quran and the Sunnah of Muhammad and yet, still can't comprehend the Divine Light of Supreme Wisdom, you must therefore lack the mental attributes of a true Original Black man.
Brothers and sisters, The Black Race in America faces a serious, serious, serious, economic problem today and neither your philosophy nor the White Races Christianity can solve it.
lets become acquainted today with the beautiful system of Divine and Everlasting Supreme Wisdom given to us by the Hon. Elijah Muhammad. Forget all that you think you know of him that you may have heard from your pastors, African-centered so-called scholars, or so-called new age/Hindu-like philosophers, and start anew by studying and putting into practice the new nation-building teachings taught by the Hon. Elijah Muhammad. Working together and building in accordance with the Divine guidance, we CAN make a difference and create a new world for our progeny.
Please be sure to not confuse his teachings with today's so-called preachers and leaders who speak in his name but are guilty of leading us back to white devil politics. When a formula has proven to be successful, it should never be mixed with that which is inferior for then, you weaken the formula and prevent success!!!
Monday, April 30th 2012 at 11:43AM
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Harry, why must make yourself resolve into a pile of ****. Lets talk serious. The Nation of Islam has been generated and ripened into mosques, schools and public broadcast throughout America. It is ready for the next step..........which is nationhood. On the other hand you are "just" getting started. You have nothing and heading nowhere.........so shut your mouth and do more listening.
Monday, April 30th 2012 at 4:21PM
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Saint........this blog is about Christianity. Not really looking for your skills at espionage. It leads to nowhere and offers nothing. What do think about the majority of us 40 million black Americans believe in Christianity ?
Monday, April 30th 2012 at 4:24PM
crutial clear
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robert.........you are good at repeating what the Holy Quran says in print....but absolutely lack understanding which makes you mentally retarded.
Monday, April 30th 2012 at 4:27PM
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jakes you are really creating a name for yourself lets see there is
Secret AGENT JAKES /FBI/GOOGLE/ robert/Herman/jr powell / and of course
''HAY DUMB DUMB LOOK WHAT A FINE MESS YOU GOT US INTO''
NOW THE ''BULLY'',,,, GET THE BULLY BEAT DOWN !
Monday, April 30th 2012 at 4:37PM
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Jake I agree with Brother Crutial...this blog is about Christianity and we should stick to the subject of Christianity instead of going into a subject that is way off the topic. With all due respect...if you want to discuss fake imposters please do this on a blog of your own my brother...
Robert, you just don't become a Muslim because you put on the Holy and Righteous Garments of Allah and recite the Qur'an from can't see in the morning to can't see at night. It doesn't matter if you've practiced Islam for 4 Months, 4 Years, 40 years or 400 Years... Unless you cross over into the Spiritual side of the Righteous, You are stiil a ***** dressed up in the Garment of a Muslim. If the teachings of the Saviour was Designed to clean us up from the Evil and Filth of the White Man's World, and you are in the Mosque after a while, and you still have Mud on you, then something is wrong with that picture.
Harry, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that the Slave Master has reared us from little Children to Love his Evil and Filthy way of Life. He took his Flith and Evil with his false Religion (Christianity) and went all over the Planet and Conquered it for White People. They have done every thing that the Devil of your Scriptures said that the Devil will do to the people of the Planet Earth. Show us any where on our planet that he has not surverted the Original People's way of Life and Changed there Natural Religion? That is his Nature. To make people his Slaves. And any so-called prophet who condones this is truly Blind as a Bat!!!
There is no future for Black People in Christianity; it is a religion organized to enslave us to the white race's rule. But our unity under the crescent with our Allah's guidance can get us anything we desire in the way of help and some of this earth that we can call our own!!!
Tuesday, May 1st 2012 at 12:04PM
Siebra Muhammad
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msSiebraBlogQueenNOLA, writes, "you must therefore lack the mental attributes of a true Original Black man"
yes! i do lack that euroCentric racialistRacist 'black' origin,
---- the ORIGINAL 'blackMan' is the slaveAmericana1865 that accepted paganChristianity from his europeanMan-'WHITE'god/dog
and I am for the crutialSiebraBlaggies ------- a believer of AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as):
Sūrat An-Nisāa
(The Women) IV
1. O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person - Adaam, and from Adaam - He created his wife [Hawwā], and from them both He created many men and women; and fear Allāah through Whom you demand your mutual rights, and do not cut the relations of the wombs (kinship). Surely, Allāah is Ever an All-Watcher over you.
----This ayat MEANS that AlIslaam is MONOTHEISM; and Adaam(as) is the Father of the Human Family; ALL OF HUMANITY
---that the Human should not CUT the wombs; the cutting of the wombs was done by the paganEuropeans with their nonFamily slaverAMericana 1492-1864 "in the name of jesus"
19. O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will; and you should not treat them with harshness, that you may take away part of the Mahr you have given them, unless they commit open illegal s*xual intercourse; and live with them honourably. If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allāah brings through it a great deal of good.
This ayat, which Kunta Kinte knew, means that Monotheism should not be practiced like slaverAmericana1492-1864 --- the bondage, rape and inheriting of women @slaveNegras
AND --- OH SO BEAUTIFUL! --- Allaah says, 'If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allāah brings through it a great deal of good."
AND oh the Women of the Family of Adaam(as) are a great deal of good!
AlIslaam did not a Council of Cardinals or martinLuther, or Calvin, or any other EUROPEAN to reInvent the words of the CREATOR for division...........
or even the silly farakhanMadoof kingJamesVersions of paganChristian thought/silly.....
The Words of The Creator of Adaam(as) had meanings 1460+ YEARS ago - defined by Mohamed(as) and The Meanings are the same 2012----
AND
Sūrat Al-Ahzāb
(The Confederates) XXXIII
In the Name of Allāah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. O Prophet Mohamed. Keep your duty to Allāah, and do not listen to the disbelievers and the hypocrites, Allāah is Ever All-Knower, All-Wise.
2. Follow that which is revealed to you from your Lord. Allāah is Well-Acquainted with what you do.
3. And put your trust in Allāah, and Sufficient is Allāah as a Wakīl (Disposer of affairs).
4. Allāah has not made for any man two hearts inside his body.
Tuesday, May 1st 2012 at 7:14PM
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HERE GOES THE DUMMY ROBERT POSTING THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY !
WHAT DOES IT ME TO YOU IF YOU DONT LIVE IT ITS JUST GIBBERISH AND BULL**** !
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 8:13AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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the mrBlagFrogPrinceSiebraCrutialbsBTOLD writes, "HERE GOES THE DUMMY ROBERT POSTING THE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY ! WHAT DOES IT ME TO YOU IF YOU DONT LIVE IT ITS JUST GIBBERISH AND BULL**** !"
no this is not yourBSBTOLD blag!
mrCartoonKing, it makes NO difference if AlQur'aan --- the words of the Creator of Adaam(as) are posted from me or YOU ---- we have nothing to do with it --- NOW WE MAY THOUGH realize that it is not the oldeStereotypical euroCentric paganChristianity that BIA has 'enjoyed'? for 1492-1864 or WE may understand have the FORTUNE of realizing it is the Essence of the Purpose and the Guide of the Family of Adaam(as) for Benefit and NOT the oldeCHildish division of the slaverAMericana era...............
learn something, sometime you Cartoon.........................
Sūrat Al-Baqarah
(The Cow) II
In the Name of Allāah,the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. Alif-Lām-Mīm
2. This is AlQurāan, there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqūn [the pious believers of Monotheism who fear Allāah and abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden and love Allāah by performing all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].
3. Who believe in the Ghaib and perform As-Salāt (Iqāmat-as-Salāt), and spend out of what We have provided for them, give Zakāt, spend on themselves, their parents, their children, their wives, and also give charity to the poor and also in Allāahs Cause.
4. And who believe in AlQurāan and the Sunnah which has been revealed to Mohamed and in that which was sent down before you AtTaurāt (Torah) and AlInjeel (Gospel), and belief with certainty; the Hereafter or Resurrection, recompense of their good and bad deeds, Paradise and Hell.
135. Jews or Christians say, "to be guided follow us". Say to them Mohamed, "No, we follow only the way of life, religion, of Ibrāhīm (Abraham), Hanīfa(Monotheism, to worship none but Allāah (Alone), and he was not of Al-Mushrikūn (those who worshipped others along with Allāah.
136. Muslims, "We believe in Allāah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrāhīm (Abraham), Ismāīl (Ishmael), Ishāq (Isaac), Yaqūb (Jacob), and to Al-Asbāt [the offspring of the twelve sons of Yaqūb (Jacob)], and that which has been given to Mūsā (Moses) and Īsā (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted in AlIslāam)."
137. So if they believe what you believe, then they are rightly guided; but if they turn away, then they are only in opposition. So Allāah will suffice you against them. And He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower.
138. Our Sibghah (religion) is the Sibghah (Religion) of Allāah and which Sibghah (religion) can be better than Allāahs? And we are His worshippers.
139. Mohamed say to the Jews and Christians, "You dispute with us about Allāah while He is our Lord and Your Lord? We are to be rewarded for our deeds and you for your deeds. We are sincere to Him in worship and obedience (we worship Him Alone and none else, and we obey His Orders)."
140. Or do you say that Ibrāhīm (Abraham), Ismāīl (Ishmael), Ishāq (Isaac), Yaqūb (Jacob) and Al-Asbāt [the offspring of the twelve sons of Yaqūb (Jacob)] were Jews or Christians? Say, "Do you know better or does Allāah know better that they All were Muslims? Who is more unjust than he who conceals the Oath to believe Prophet Mohamed when he comes, as is written in their Books, he has from Allāah? Allāah is not unaware of what you do."
142. The fools among the people (pagans, hypocrites, and Jews) will say, "What has turned Muslims from their Qiblah (prayer direction towards Jerusalem) to which they used to face in prayer." Say, Mohamed, "To Allāah belong both, east and the west. He guides whom He wills to the Straight Way."
143. Thus We have made you Muslims - real believers of Monotheism, true followers of Prophet Mohamed and his Sunnah (legal ways), a just and the best nation, that you be witnesses over mankind and the Messenger Mohamed, be a witness over you. We made the Qiblah (prayer direction towards Jerusalem) which you used to face, only to test those who followed the Messenger Mohamed, from those who would turn on their heels and disobey the Messenger. Indeed it was great except for those whom Allāah guided. Allāah would never make your faith (prayers) to be lost (prayers offered towards Jerusalem). Allāah is full of Kindness, the Most Merciful towards Mankind.
144. We have seen the turning of your Mohamed face towards the heaven. Surely, We shall turn you to a Qiblah (prayer direction) that shall please you, so turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid-al-Harām (at Makkah). Where ever you are, turn your faces (in prayer) in that direction. Certainly, the people who were given the Scripture (Jews and the Christians) know well that, that (your turning towards the direction of the Kabah at Makkah in prayers) is the truth from their Lord. Allāah is aware of what they do.
145. Even if you were to bring to the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) all the Ayāt (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations), they would not follow your Qiblah (prayer direction), nor are you going to follow their Qiblah (prayer direction).
They WILL NOT follow each others Qiblah (prayer direction). If you follow their desires after you have received knowledge (from Allāah), then truly you will be one of the Zālimūn (polytheists, pagans, wrong-doers).
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 8:35AM
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what is that i smell ???
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 9:06AM
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JAKE IS BARKING AGAIN ,,,,AVOIDING THE QUESTIONS ,,A COWARDS MOVE Running FROM THE TRUTH ,,,IS THAT CLEAR ,,, run white boy run the black folks is coming !
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 9:32AM
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Brother Saint Jake: You swear that I'm trying to get fly with you on matter that did not concern me, yet my name is mentioned countless times in your comments.
I must've struck a nerve on my last comment addressed to you because I see it has been deleted. It struck a bone didn't it brother? The truth hurts and you can't handle it. Nor can you prove that I am am alias for Brother David. You can't because everything I wrote is 100% right and exact! Yet you keep mentioning my name as though what you say is gospel.
The time you waste attacking me when I haven't done anything to you, you need to be somewhere taking a shower and saying your prayers!!!
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 12:16PM
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bark jakes bark roff roff !
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 12:26PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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here ,,puppy come get it ,,,roff roff ,,,truth you got your foot in his @ss and he always try to ajust his dress at this point because he is done ! cooked ! played out ! and running
this is what happen when you stand up to a bully ,! they get beat down !!
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 12:30PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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IS that it jakes ?? really .....YOU SURE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE YOU REALLY LOOK LIKE A DAMN FOOL
BARK JAKES BARK !!
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 12:37PM
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robert....If you must quote the Holy Quran, why not in context of the point and subject which we are speaking. Otherwise, it takes a book full of wisdom and turns it into what David refers to as jibberish. A child can cut and paste.
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 12:55PM
crutial clear
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David........OK lets do the math.......there are about 40 million black Americans. Roughly 30 million are Christian leaving 10 million worshipping Islam and others. You must agree, if 30 million was believing in the truth, we as a collective group would NOT be so dependent and reliant on the white establishment. In other words, there HAS to be something wrong about our majority belief system.
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 12:58PM
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Jake.....you are way way off. Everybody is a fake and fraud according to you. If you were in a war, you would be all alone. If crutial clear was a fraud, then why do I support and honor everything that Jamal Abraham speaks. Dah....dah.....
It seems you spend so much time arguing that you have trouble engaging in dialogue.....have you considered a phychiatrist for your mental disorder ?
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 1:02PM
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Truth B. Told.....nice to have you weigh in.............Short of the Trevon Martin racism, what does it take for Black Americans to re-examine our belief system when it seems to be taking us right back into slavery. Calling Christianity bullcrap is giving more credit to the European religion than it deserves......won't you agree ?
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 1:07PM
crutial clear
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clear ..everyone jakes is in the building smoking crack he thinks everyone is after him and your right he is alone
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 1:15PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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HAY EVERYONE IM ABOUT TO POST SOME INFO ON WHY JAKES IS A COWARD AND HAS A HISTORY OF TRYING TO ATTACK PEOPLE AND WHEN THEY FIGHT BACK HE RUNS
THE POST IS CALLED RUNNER IT WILL BE A PIC OF A RAT RUNNING !
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 1:30PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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clearGhost writes, "David refers to as jibberish. A child can cut and paste."
again, the translation into english of AlQur'aan is all that is required of me --- i make NO claims
i ask the foregiveness of Allaah if i make a mistake or out of context
the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) is that the Words of the Creator of Adaam(as) be given to the Family of Adaam(as)
Allaah controls the hearts and minds of his servants
AlHamdullillaahi Rabilalaameen if your mind or heart clicks or doesnt
AlHamdullillaahi Rabilalaameen if you CHANGE or not
do remember though that the father, grandfather Family of Our American Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama are believers of AlQur'aan and do remember your 'black'Problems? are YOURSELF-----NOT AMERICAS
maybe its yourMind and your euroCentric paganBelief.....'blackie/whitie' ....
not Americas
learn something, sometime POSTED !
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 7:04PM
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see the runner begging robert to help !! white boy and his white daddy ,,to bully's
bouth of you together i beat the 2 of you with one hand behind my back while talking on the phone ,,,cowards !! http://blackinamerica.com/cgi-bin/blog.cgi...
Wednesday, May 2nd 2012 at 11:12PM
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no 'white' boys or daddies --- JUST Intelligence, Scholarship and History
and NO help needed
Sūrat Al-Baqarah
(The Cow) II In the Name of Allāah,the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. Alif-Lām-Mīm
2. This is AlQurāan, there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqūn [the pious believers of Monotheism who fear Allāah and abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden and love Allāah by performing all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained].
3. Who believe in the Ghaib and perform As-Salāt (Iqāmat-as-Salāt), and spend out of what We have provided for them, give Zakāt, spend on themselves, their parents, their children, their wives, and also give charity to the poor and also in Allāahs Cause.
4. And who believe in AlQurāan and the Sunnah which has been revealed to Mohamed and in that which was sent down before you AtTaurāt (Torah) and AlInjeel (Gospel), and belief with certainty; the Hereafter, (Resurrection, recompense of their good and bad deeds, Paradise and Hell).
253. Those Messengers! We preferred some of them to others; to some of them Allāah spoke (directly); others He raised to degrees (of honour); and to Īsā, the son of Maryam (Mary), We gave clear proofs and evidence, and supported him with Rūh-ul-Qudus [Jibrael]. If Allāah had willed, succeeding generations would not have fought against each other, after clear Verses of Allāh had come to them, but they differed - some of them believed and others disbelieved. If Allāah had willed, they would not have fought against one another, but Allāh does what He likes.
254. O you who believe! Spend of that with which We have provided for you, before a Day comes when there will be no bargaining, nor friendship, nor intercession. And it is the disbelievers who are the Zālimūn (wrong-doers).
255. Allāah! Lā ilāha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, that which sustains and protects All that exists). Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to His creatures in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will Never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursī extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great.
256. There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tāghūt and Believes in Allāah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy that will never break. Allāah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 8:12AM
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Brother Crutial Clear the best thing for me to do is just ignore this dummy who calls himself "Saint" Jake when his actions and sentiments expressed here are nowhere near that of a "SAINT." It is more to the taste of a hypocrite.
To answer your question Brother Crutial: Allah's gift to me is the knowledge that is represented in the mathematical truth that is written below. Before I came into the knowledge of self (Islam) I was following the same religion my parents embraced (Christianity). During that time that was the real miserable life. How so?
From the start of a child until my teen years, all that has been taught by the Whiteman about us as Black people i the hells of North America has all been lies. It wasn't until I came into the knowledge of self that I began to see Christinity for what it really is -- a False Religion made up by Devil's for the sole purpose of Deceiving and Enslaving the Black Man of the Planet Earth.
Our religion is not Christianity! Christianity is made of men. I follow the religion of the Prophets and Apostles. That's ISLAM!!!
Christianity is 551 plus years old. The religion I follow has no birth record, meaning it has NO beginning and NO end. God has always been here and His religion (Islam) has always been here!!!
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 11:40AM
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Well now, Bro. Truth B. Told, I must admit you have an understanding that rare among our people in America. The ability of the Devil's religion (Christianity) to deceive the darker of the world is profound. It is a blessing to be able to recognize the truth of Islam when your parents and established government teaches something to the contrary. Touche..................I would only contest with you on that the Devil mixes some truth in with his lying religion which makes the tricknology more effective.....somewhere in the neighborhood of 80 percent lie and 20 percent truth.
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 3:36PM
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btw jakes dont forget to copy and paste doc wants you to have a cpoy of the wavier !
just in case any thing goes wrong ,,,wait wait let me get off the floor ..i was laughing so hard
I fell on the floor ! lmbao!
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 4:34PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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WHEN TALKING RELIGION WE GOT TO LOOK AT ALL JUST BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IS THE LARGEST AND THE MOST ATTACK THERE NEEDS TO BE DIALOG FROM A DIFFERENT PROSPECTIVE SO THAT THOSE ENGAGED IN THE DISCUSSION CAN SEE TWO SIDES OF THE EQUATION WITH THAT BEING SAID LETS LOOK AT THIS ,,,,, As Muhammad developed Islam he borrowed from the other regional religions present in the Mideast. These religions include Judaism, Christianity, Sabeanism, Zoroastrianism, and forms of paganism. Judaism is the largest contributor to Islam, followed by Christianity, then followed by the various pagan religions, and Muhammads mind. These pagan borrowings constitute significant facets of Islam and this article details some of these pagan contributions.
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 5:04PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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WHEN TALKING RELIGION WE GOT TO LOOK AT ALL JUST BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IS THE LARGEST AND THE MOST ATTACK THERE NEEDS TO BE DIALOG FROM A DIFFERENT PROSPECTIVE SO THAT THOSE ENGAGED IN THE DISCUSSION CAN SEE TWO SIDES OF THE EQUATION WITH THAT BEING SAID LETS LOOK AT THIS ,,,,, As Muhammad developed Islam he borrowed from the other regional religions present in the Mideast. These religions include Judaism, Christianity, Sabeanism, Zoroastrianism, and forms of paganism. Judaism is the largest contributor to Islam, followed by Christianity, then followed by the various pagan religions, and Muhammads mind. These pagan borrowings constitute significant facets of Islam !
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 5:06PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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THE KABA
The Kaba is now the most revered sanctuary of Islam. It is located in Mecca. Muslims throughout the world direct their prayers toward the Kaba.
PHYSICAL SHAPE
The Kaba's shape is somewhat cubical. Of note in the Kaba's structure is a black rock built into the wall in its eastern corner. The black rock's diameter is about 12 inches. It is reddish black in color, and has red and yellow particles. The black rock is kissed during the perambulation, (the circulation of the Muslims around the Kaba). The Kaba is about 50 feet high, and the walls are about 40 feet long. The facade contains the door, which starts at 7 feet off the ground, and faces N.E.. To enter the Kaba, a ladder must be used. Also built in the eastern corner, is another stone called "lucky". This stone is only touched, not kissed.
KNOWN PAGAN HISTORY
Apart from Muslim myths, little is really known about the history of the Kaba. About 60 years before Christ, the Roman historian Diodorus Siculus commented that there was in Arabia a temple greatly revered by the Arabs. It is probable that he had the Kaba in mind. It was later mentioned to have existed in the 2nd century; Ptolemy, the geographer mentions it in his work, calling it the 'macoraba'. The Kaba was a sanctuary dedicated to one or more pagan deities. The accounts of the campaigns of Abraha note that it was a place of pagan worship in the 6th century. Information on the distribution of the offices among the sons of Kusayy show that the worship of the sanctuary had developed into a regulated cult several generations before Muhammad.
One historian (Hurgronjes) said that sacred worship may have developed around the area because the Zamzam spring was found in this waterless place.
Pre-Islamic history tells us that many Arabian tribes were stone worshippers. This is also mentioned in Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol 5, #661. The Old Testament even talks about Mideast pagan groups that worshipped stones. Muhammad incorporated the Kaba's paganistic roots into Islam to give the Muslims a sense of identity, legitimacy, and uniqueness. He also wanted to ease the Arab's strain of moving from paganism to Islam, by continuing the practices of their fathers.
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 5:07PM
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PAGAN GODS AND RITUALS
There were 360 idols around the Kaba. The pilgrimages to the Kaba were all pagan pilgrimages, the ritual processions around the Kaba were part of pagan beliefs and custom, the white robes worn by the pilgrims were from pagan faiths, the veneration of the Kaba and black stone are derived from pagan rituals and beliefs. Pagans called out the names of their pagan gods as they circled the Kaba, today, Muslims call out Allah's name. Pagans ran between the nearby hills, Muhammad authorized Muslims to do that in the Quran, and probably ran between the hills himself.
The chief pagan god worshipped there was Hubal, who could be called the god of Mecca and of the Kaba. Hubal is not mentioned in the Quran. The goddesses al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat were also worshipped there and are mentioned in the Quran.
It is thought that the Kaba was originally set up for astral worship. Golden suns and moons are repeatedly mentioned as the votive gifts. Some pagans regarded the Kaba as a temple devoted to the sun, moon, and 5 planets.
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 5:10PM
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WITH THIS BEING SAID all religion was man made ,,,we will die for what we feel is our righteous religion and our faith ! ,,,, faithi is really all we have ,,it toke our belief to believe in what we seen as truth ,,and now we have faith in our own truth like faith without works is dead ,,
if i believe in something im going to show it. by being faithful to it !
how do you know she /he loves you ,,by being faithful !
i t doesn't mater if its right or wrong in someone else eyes,,its what you believe and are faithful to ,,,,you got to live with that ,,,its when we come out and start disliking what other believe we get a debates that could go on for years and to this day the debates go on ,,they are called religious wars look in the middle east !
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 5:24PM
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be true to thy self ,,you will shine from the peace within !
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 5:25PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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be true to thy self ,,you will shine from the peace within !
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 5:25PM
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One could quote the Bible or Holy Quran or Torah. There is no need to do that when you have the proper understanding of these books. Then, a person could be biased by subjective beliefs that dwarfs one's ability to learn. As a seeker of knowledge and understanding, my approach has always been to arrive at the truth, then let the cards fall where they may.
In the beginning of creation, there was no said religion. There was creation, meaning sun to light and heat, air to breathe and a planet to live and grow. With the creation of human beings, there was "purpose". Much like all other creations. The sun was created for a purpose, so was the insects...they had a purpose. So what was the purpose of creation of human beings. It certainly was NOT to just worship GOD and shout hollaluyah. It was discovered that religion had to be added to existance with the creation of human beings because of weaknesses stemming from jealousy, envy, s*x and desire to worship. There is all kinds of arguments on what religion came first.....as a scientist, my approach is who gives a fu_k. Its like, if I am hungry and one put a spoiled banana, rotten meat, contaminated lettuce or ripened apple on the table............I will still choose the ripened apple that is fresh and pure.
It was Abraham and his son Ishmael that was commissed to purify the House of God, meaning the Kaaba which was infested with idols and uncleanliness. That was the point of Abraham. As a result of Abraham purifying the Kaaba......the pilgrammage to Mecca once in a lifetime is a requirement of those that practice Islam......but let's get back.
Purpose.......so what is the purpose of human beings. It was to grow, cultivate, replenish ones own race and kind. Each race was put in charge of its own race to grow and make reliant their kind. This the ancient Africans done. The Chinese had done. The Japanese had done. When the caucasian was made, they were unable to sustain themselves without the colonialization of the people that had been here, the darker people of the planet. So they learned how to capture, murder and destroy black people with the advent of the industrial revolution. They took the precious metals of Africa and made sophisticated tools and was able to make them a slave.
Now, in America...it is about which religion can assist the black people in re-developing their ability to grow and sustain themselves. Undoubtedly, the only religion that can do such a thing is one that emphasises the love of self and the knowledge of self. One can go to the church, synagogue or mosque.....and findout for themselves that only Islam promotes the love of ones own kind and the growth of ones own kind which is nature at its best. Forget about hate.......if black people can understand that it is the ability to grow and develop their own race which is the ultimate of purpose for their very being.
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 6:58PM
crutial clear
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It was discovered that religion had to be added to existance with the creation of human beings because of weaknesses stemming from jealousy, envy, s*x and desire to worship. There is all kinds of arguments on what religion came first.....thank you for making that very clear
good word my brother ! good word !
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 7:20PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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back to the subject of this blag
'black' , christian, religion and crap SHOULD not be used in the same sentence......
all of the above writers, crucialCrutialNYfrogPrinceNYLAbsBTOLDfromSiebra...............
in my opinion,
you are attempting another FRAUD -----crucialCrutialNYfrogPrinceNYLAbsBTOLDfromSiebra to divide Americans
Musa, Ibraheem, Nuh, IsaIbnMaryam and Mohamed(saw) --- ALL brought Mankind the SAME message from the Creator of Adaam(as)
this is HISTORY, SCHOLARSHIP and MOST importantly LANGUAGE of ALL 2012 MEN.............
you cannot understand AtTaurat, AlInjeel and AlQur'aan and their meaning using a europeanPagan Language.............first
and millions of the Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic SCHOLARS have studied these original WORDS for 2-3 THOUSAND years +.........
and no Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic SCHOLAR would use terms like:
1. 'black'
2. 'white'
3. three in one godHead
4. christmas tree
5. easter eggs
6. st. Patrick
7. st. Valentines
8. st. Nicohlas -- SANTA
9. goodFriday
10. THEY WOULD NOT USE paganChristian european dictionaries, references books
so the crucialCrutialNYfrogPrinceNYLAbsBTOLDfromSiebra wants to talk about paganism BEFORE Mohamed(sAW)---1461+ years AGO---OK
but the euroCentric Religionists use 1-9 paganConcepts above to describe something the paganChristians called 'the blood of jesus'Religion 1492-1864-------
and paganEuropean concepts 1-9 above in 2012..............
AlIslaam is the way of Life dictated to Adaam(as) for the Family of Adaam til the Day of Criterion..............
AlIslaam makes No division of Monotheism from Adaam(as)
AlIslaam makes No division of Monotheistic Words of Allaah, AtTaurat, AlInjeel, the Words spoken to Musa(as) or AlQur'aan
AlIslaam makes No division of Monotheistic Prophets from Adaam(as) to Mohamed(saw)
the divisions in the worldWide Family of Adaam(as) can be traced to european paganChristianity
AlIslaam is the Most practiced and Largest way of Life in 2012 for MANKIND......
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 7:44PM
powell robert
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Adam gets no credit for the rise of monotheism. It really was not until Abraham that monotheism came to fruition. Abraham singularly pushed the belief in one God and for that is the only prophet that God made His friend. The belief in many Gods was practices throughout what is now called Africa and East Asia. Abraham risked his own life and the life of one of his sons due to his obedience and adherence to monotheism. We owe the thought of One God to God but, the practice of believing in One God to Abraham, not Adam.
Lets get back to the subject of this blog..............Christianity is convenient and comfortable to believe....because we do nothing........and God has to do everything. We depend on our former slavemasters for everything and wait to die to recieve our glory. It makes our purpose in life one to SERVE THE CAUCASIAN RACE AND THEIR CHILDREN AND SMILE WHILE WE ARE DOING IT.
Thursday, May 3rd 2012 at 8:50PM
crutial clear
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Muhammad learned monotheism from Christians! Arabs were "late bloomers" when it came to rejecting polytheism and adopting monotheism. While much of the world had rejected polytheism, Arabs, like late blooming adolescents finally gave up their eternal history of paganism.... thanks to the direct influence of Christians.
I believe that all religion has it faults and short comings not just with black christian but same with Islam in this case Islam is not a black religion so how do we determine what is the best for black folks today when it comes to religion what is the proven fact that ''black people you need to follow this and leave that alone'' they tryed that with Jim Jones !
my question is what god did our ancestors worship ?
Friday, May 4th 2012 at 12:10AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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crutial clear was always one of your diversionary CARTOONS
so djohnson,bsbtold,crutialclearly
i do believe that ALL histories that are of the MODERN era; would CONCLUDE that Monotheism is a product of The Creator of Adaam(as) for His Family; and passed down thru Our Great Judaic Prophets and Words
if we can agree on that ---- can we also agree with Our Semitic Judaic Brothers that?:
---------NO 'christianEuropean' ---- LEARNED --- they killed romanJesus-Peter?
AND
NO Judaic Believer - 0- 2014AD---- believed/believes paganChristian euroCentric king James Version of 'religion"
NO Judaic Believer - 0- 2014AD----believed/believes a man named jesus DIED on a Cross
NO Judaic Believer - 0- 2014AD----believed/believes romanJesus is of ANY value in their Lives......
and NO Judaic Believer - 0- 2014AD----believed/believes there are 'blackie/whitie'Jews.......
learn something, sometime and SMASH the oldeNegro Stereotypes
Thursday, January 23rd 2014 at 9:03PM
powell robert
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