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FOOD FOR THOUGHT: TO SPANK OR NOT TO SPANK? THAT IS THE QUESTION! (1707 hits)


Peace,

There has been a lot of talk concerning Creflo Dollar's recent assault on his 15 year old daughter and whether or not his actions were "justified". While I agree with most people that Creflo went a little too far in his discipline methods towards his daughter, I believe in "spare the rod, spoil the child" and feel a parent has not only a right but a responsibility to discipline thier child almost any way they can as long as it's justified and done out of love and concern.

Some people believe that once a child reaches adolescence (around 12 or 13) they should no longer be spanked, but for some children this is when they need it the MOST. Even if a parent has to spank their son or daughter on the behind and legs, to get respect and discipline from him or her...they must do it. But being beaten all over their body counts as abuse and shouldn't be tolerated.

Of course a parent must make sure thier child doesn't have psychiatric problems that force them to act out with crazy behavior. If that's the case then they need either drugs or therapy.....I'm a believer in psychiatric medication because I've seen how it's changed people's lives for the better. But psychiatric problems aside........A parent shouldn't hesistate to use physical force to keep their child on the straight and narrow.

My friend and I were speaking and just saying to ourselves how times have changed from when we were up and coming, and how the teachers had permission to whip our behinds if we came to school late, or if we acted up and was disorderly in school. Then you got another behind whipping when you got home...LOL

This was many, many years ago and now the power is being taken from the parents and into the hands of goverment agencies. I used to believe in "boundaries" for parents when it came to disciplining thier children....and I still do...but the boundaries have expanded a bit as I've gotten older and realized how unruly some children are in this day and time.

Over here in the South, I go into the supermarkets today and look at all these little bad children running around. They are some of the most unruly and disobedient I've seen. They go from grocery aisle to grocery aisle and throw produce and other items on the floor like they have absolutely no discipline. Their parents rarely (if ever) spank them....and if they do hit them it's usually out of anger and frustration rather than for disciplinary purposes. And today's children are amazingly strong.....stronger than what we were back in the day.

Their parents let them go undisciplined and when they get older they grow up and join gangs and the police end up locking them up in jail or shooting them dead out-right because they are so undisciplined that tasers and pepper-spray don't work on them. They look at being and acting crazy as a badge of honor.

I agree with discipline/not abuse, but certainly discipline. The American society has been so lax in that. When there is no discipline, there is no LOVE. When they take the ability to discipline a child away from the parent, then they really may as well just take over responsiblity for that child.

Peace
Posted By: Siebra Muhammad
Sunday, June 10th 2012 at 3:09PM
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They told parents to stop spanking thier children and now most of today's children are out of control. It was all just a trick to break the family down and strip parents of thier rights...


Sunday, June 10th 2012 at 3:17PM
Siebra Muhammad
There is a difference between spanking and beating a child and I will always believe there are times when a spanking is warranted just like there are other times where a stern talking to would do the job, or other times when withholding the Playstation and Xbox games would work, etc. Spanking is not the problem. In my opinion, it's the misuse of a means of punishment that is the problem.

A lot of black people, including myself, know that we never got away with that with our parents and most parents will not let their children get away with today - and part of that is a fear of the spanking that would come as a result of acting like that. There is an obvious difference in how people raise their children - or at least there used to be.

I know when my neice was younger, if I took her shopping or to the movies or library with me and she started acting out in public I could give her "one of those looks" and she knew she had better straighten the hell up with a quickness, or she will suffer the consequences. I don't know why a lot of parents today don't have the ability to give those kinds of looks.
Sunday, June 10th 2012 at 5:10PM
Siebra Muhammad
Abuse of a child is not a spanking. Parents need to know when to draw the line when punishing their children. Teenagers require talks and understanding.
Sunday, June 10th 2012 at 9:44PM
MIISRAEL Bride
"K" (smile)
Monday, June 11th 2012 at 8:31PM
Siebra Muhammad
@IR Teens and guns are way and far beyond a from needing a normal spanking, these children have deeper envy, confusion and are more in tune that killing is the answer to elimate them from obedience. I'm only guessing, I think for sure a teen with a gun has other mental things going on. Acts of family violence can never equate the claim that genuine caring and love is missing somewhere. It's also so often too late when the parents discover the hatred, or hurt is deeper than they know. Children will have to taught they need to obey at an very early age; and that obedience is a practical good thing to be positive in for all their life.
Tuesday, June 12th 2012 at 9:54AM
MIISRAEL Bride
Just wanted to hitch an addition to your good comment IR...
Tuesday, June 12th 2012 at 10:04AM
MIISRAEL Bride
I respect everyone's views on this issue, but you can only judge a tree by their fruit it bears, especially myself and to this day, both sides of my family will tell you that nobody had more reared, studious children than Mr. and Mrs. Muhammad. Not only did we have luxuries, we were disciplined (when we got out of line).

It is important to balance discipline with love. Discipline with love was the key ingredient which is gone out of the window today. We must also look out for the scheme in parental abuse in sending parents to jail today and giving children over to the state. Discipline has become a crime today. The State says don't discipline your child but the Bible instructs you to do so. We have a conflict here!

Here in Louisiana (and maybe even the entire U.S.. I'm sure) back in the days, it was a "soul" thing, including discipline. As James Brown said in a song (PAPA DON'T TAKE NO MESS):

Papa didn't cuss,
He didn't raise a whole lot of fuss,
BUT when we did wrong,
PAPA BEAT THE HELL OUT US!!!!

There is a direct correlation between lack of physical discipline (with love, understanding, purpose and intent) commonly seen in the 50's, 60's, and 70's; that is absent today with the great proliferation of crimes committed by Black youth, especially Black males.

We have to get back to doing what works best for us and our children because they are our responsibility. We must get back to following the wisdom of Proverbs, the wisdom of our parents and our grandparents in raising up our children.


Tuesday, June 12th 2012 at 12:13PM
Siebra Muhammad
Question...the teen with the hand gun or the one with the machine gun?!? Anyone notice who runs the nonBlack home today?!?...oh that is right the teen onlyhas to pick up aht phone, right, the one that they don't pay the bill in thehome they pay no rent, buy no food or even the cloths on their backs...

Thak little talk should have been done on day o-n-e...oh thats right the parents have no rights do they?!?

Of cours anything that is over the top as in out of control is not good...but, my children do not sass me to tis day nor do my grandchildren to my children...THEY KNOW THEY HAVE "NO RIGHTS" IN THIS DEPARTMENT.sO FAR THIS HAS ONLYLED TO COLLEGE FIRST LAST AND NO PRISON / JAIL TIME... (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
aT ONE TIME i WAS GOING TO MENTION TO OUR GROUPhow we should channeng the welfare system in Ca. Then I said not...

You see heere no matter what age a female is when she gets pregnant and wants prople health care aides, food, cloths she can not live with her parents to get that needed (even more so socialization to face a world where one needs to be among th e fittest to survive)

Tiny babies starving to death, dying for lack of proper food, health care, heat, cold, you name it...

some are out partying ,but most because the boy friend goes around a collect thw welfare monies from his girlfriends...

so again we are right back to don't abort...and nowthing about the care of the baby out side of the womb...

hear any of tis in the sunday sermons????any politicians running onsomething like this...as we don't even bother with commonse...homeless children die each day and die from exposure and we can only talk about abortion...

Me. I know I can not work on a public protess againstsomething like this because it is open to too many excuses andgoing up against eh Bible and I leave these things along...(nup)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@bRIDE "k" (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...PLEAS OVER LOOK MY BEHAVIOR ON THIS MATTER...

IT IS JUST THAT IT SEEM THE ONLY ACCEPTED / LEGAL WAY TO HANDLE A BLACK IS TO JUST KILL THEM IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CHARGED WITH COMMITING A CRIMINAL ACT IN AMERICA, TODAY!!! (N...U...P BIG TIME)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Hey Siebra, did you see my RE:booker T. WASHINGTON WAS RIGHT, DUBOIS WAS WRONG...BLOG? ...

I JUST POSTED IT ABOUT 15 MIN. AGO...(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
SHE WOULD NOT BE BACK IN MY HOUSE AS I MAKE THE RULES HERE NOT THE COURTS...I WOULD BURN IT DOWN IF IS WAS ONLY A HOUSE AD NOT A HOME TO PROMOTE MY CULTURE...MOM MUST SHUT UP NOW AS SHE IS LOOSING IT...HELL AS OLD AS I AM IF MY MOM(S) WERE STILL ALIVE THEY WOULD STILL BE RIGHT EVE N IF I THOUGH THEM TO BE WRONG BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WOULD NEVER DO ANY THING TO HARM ME. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
lOV, CNNNEWS ROOM JUST DID A SOUND BITE TAKE ON THIS STORY...IT MAYBE A SHAME THAT NOW OUR CHRISTIAN NATION HAS GONE BEYOND THE SINGLE MOTHER AS BAD FOR THE UNBORN/ BRON BLACK CHILDREN AND NOW WE ARE BACK ON THE BLACK CHURCH AS IN TWO PARENTS AS PROOF IS BAD FOR U-S?!?

NOW REMEMBER TIS NEEDS US TO TAKE THE LEAD AS I DOUBT IF THIS CAN BE LAID AT THE DOOR OF OUR PRESIDENT OR OUR FIRST LADY!!!

CAN NOE SAY WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS ONE AS WE DID WITH TRAYVON MARTIN TO GET PAST THE MASS MEDIA SOUND BITES ON THIS SURVIVAL TOOL OF OUR RACE SD **** GREGARY SAID WHEN WE START FEARING OUR CHILDREN WE NEED TO START ALL OVER AGAIN IN WHO IT IS RAISING WHO?!? (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...and, I will leave with this note taught in BIA history classes(noneuropean- centered)...

"THE SAME COURT THAT WILL SPANK A WHITE MALES HAND WILL CUT OFF THE HAND OF A BLACK MALE". (NUP/ SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Lov we all know that look just as we know if that look does not do the job then a good twist of those cheeks were next...

ONe of mypet peeves is to see parents in public bribing their children to be good or trying to act like if they said 'stop' for the huhdredth time the child would stop!!!

"I" can't count the times I have accidently steped on a parent with this behavior's toes just to keep from not doing bodly harem to them or they doing bodly harm to me. as a stressor rekease valve(nup!!!)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...OH, AND LETS NOT FORGET THE 'GOOD OLD DAYS' WHEN A 12 YEAR OLD COULD NOT BE TRIED AS AN 'ADULT EITHER...

(NUP / SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
BEING FROM THE OLD SCHOOL...THOSE 'SPANKINGS' NEVER GOT ONE LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE. (S-M-I-L-E)...

DISPITE, THE REALITY, WE HAVE AS MUCH CHANCE AT A FAIR COURT WITH JURY OF OUR PEERS THEN AS WE DO NOW...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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