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By Eric Mack | Monday, 19 July 2021 08:48 PM Former President Donald Trump says Maricopa County's refusal to allow full transparency amid the 2020 presidential election audit makes him skeptical once again, suggesting that county election officials have something to hide. "Why won't the RINO Maricopa County Board of Supervisors in Arizona give the routers?" Trump asked in a statement Monday from his Save America PAC. "What are they trying to hide? They are fighting for life or death. What is going on?" The latest request for information involves auditors requesting routers from the county for inspection. "Give the routers!" Trump's statement continued. "Doesn't this mean that the voting was, despite their statements to the contrary, connected to the Internet? The voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election was monumental, and the facts are coming out daily!" The Republican-held Arizona Senate originally subpoenaed the internet routers from the county polling places, but the county rejected the request, claiming it would cost $6 million to replace them. A similar claim led Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs to destroy voting machines that were inspected by auditors. Officials skeptical of election fraud argued that Hobbs' claim the voting machines could be compromised by auditors is evidence they are indeed vulnerable to tampering. The voting machines audited would not be used in future elections, Hobbs said, but Arizona Republicans noted they would have been subjected to the inspection and certification process in place in the state. Also, with respect to the routers subpoena, Maricopa County Sheriff Paul Penzone has said law enforcement security would have been jeopardized, the Arizona Mirror reported. Auditors argue the routers are critical to finishing a complete report on election vulnerabilities, but Maricopa County election officials say the voting machines were not connected to the internet. According to CyFir CEO Ben Cotton, one of the subcontractors doing the audit, submitting the routers for inspection would not compromise security, according to the Mirror. https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/routers-...
Posted By: Steve Williams
Monday, July 26th 2021 at 4:49PM
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Maricopa County Board of Supervisors in Arizona is saving $6 million by their actions. OH DAMN!!! That just might be pocket change to you Steve.
Monday, July 26th 2021 at 5:05PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Either you can certify the equipment is safe to use in the election or not. Which is it Ron?
Monday, July 26th 2021 at 9:06PM
Steve Williams
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Sorry, Steve, that's "NOT" my job. Why don't you loan, no give Maricopa County Board of Supervisors in Arizona $6 million and the problem will be solved. I know you would do anything for Trump, RIGHT?
Monday, July 26th 2021 at 9:58PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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If the board of elections could certify the routers before the 2020 election, they can certify them after the audit, using the same process. I doubt they were certified in the first place, given they were connected to the sheriff's department over the Internet. You are a know-nothing liar Ron, plain and simple.
Monday, July 26th 2021 at 11:22PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, don’t you know when you’d resort to name calling, you to lost your argument?
You are the same person who have not proved a thing about you have said yet about TRUMP.
Remember Steve, you cannot prove a lie.
Which you should know So well by now.
Monday, July 26th 2021 at 11:45PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You are telling me nothing Ron. You're a liar. The routers can be re-certified after the audit. There is no reason to buy new routers. That would be the height of stupidity.
Monday, July 26th 2021 at 11:53PM
Steve Williams
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Then where is your proof that the 2020 Presidential Election was stolen from Loser TRUMP?
Tuesday, July 27th 2021 at 12:08AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The routers have part of the evidence. That's why Maricopa County won't turn them over.
Tuesday, July 27th 2021 at 12:12AM
Steve Williams
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Just what I thought, you don’t have 💩 as far as proof yet and this is going on since Jan 6th some six months after the 2020 Presidential Election Steve and you are going to believe that BULL💩 as proof.
By the way Steve, The My Pillow Guy said Trump will be reinstated on Friday August the 13th.
More to come.
Tuesday, July 27th 2021 at 12:21AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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It wasn't Mike Lindell that said that Ron, it was Ali Velshi.
I said the routers have PART of the evidence. The available evidence will be in the audit report.
Tuesday, July 27th 2021 at 1:23AM
Steve Williams
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Trump Weighs In on Arizona Election Audit: 'Give the Routers!' (41 hits)
SUBJECT
...OK..give/get/hack whatever....
Arizona Citizen Voting for President/local/state 2020 should be CORRECT...
AND....election was completed in 11/2020....11/2020-7/27/2021...?...8 months-240 days...BS
..BEST way is for trump$$ette to take his $billionaireOldeFatarse down to 120' Arizona
and PROVE/APPROVE it....campaign finances can be used to pay for complete results...
..trump$$ette can take-Oath keepers, and other moonShiner insurrectionists to 120' Arizona foHELP
Tuesday, July 27th 2021 at 8:16AM
robert powell
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Mike Lindell Walks Back August Deadlines for Trump Reinstatement, Remains Totally Super Confident it Will Happen … Eventually https://www.mediaite.com/tv/mike-lindell-w...
Now Steve you can see for yourself Mike Lindell in action, walking back The August Deadlines for Trump Reinstatement,
Steve, here is more proof of more LIES about TRUMP.
Tuesday, July 27th 2021 at 12:12PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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That was July 14. Old news Ron.
Tuesday, July 27th 2021 at 10:00PM
Steve Williams
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Still talking about Mike Lindell was talking about the Reinstatement of Trump on Friday, August The 13th.
Tuesday, July 27th 2021 at 10:22PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Let him talk. You do Ron.
Tuesday, July 27th 2021 at 11:51PM
Steve Williams
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Why Steve, you don’t believe The My Pillow Guy, no more?
Wednesday, July 28th 2021 at 12:12AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I know where that myth started. Maggie Haberman.
Wednesday, July 28th 2021 at 12:39AM
Steve Williams
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I talking about believing The My Pillow Guy Steve💩.
Wednesday, July 28th 2021 at 12:48AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You're talking about white supremacy violent domestic terror extremeists Ron, flagged by the DHS and propagandized by the FBI.
Wednesday, July 28th 2021 at 1:00AM
Steve Williams
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I am talking about what The My Pillow Guy said, as a supporter of TRUMP. You don't believe in him now Steve?
Wednesday, July 28th 2021 at 8:42AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Don't you believe DVEs will strike in August?
Wednesday, July 28th 2021 at 10:43AM
Steve Williams
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No! No! Steve. I am talking about what The My Pillow Guy said, as a supporter of TRUMP. You don't believe in him now Steve?
Can you answer the question...
Wednesday, July 28th 2021 at 11:26AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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ps ... pillowGuy deaCON is the mattress guy...lives 35 miles south of me....
...AND
Driver Vision Enhancer System for Military Vehicles (DVE).....in August?
Wednesday, July 28th 2021 at 9:41PM
robert powell
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What do you mean Ron, "believe in him?" Like Jesus?
Thursday, July 29th 2021 at 5:26PM
Steve Williams
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Do you believe Trump’s side of the 2020 presidential election?
Thursday, July 29th 2021 at 10:59PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I believe in my side of the 2020 Presidential election. That's what I saw, a malfunctioning ballot scanner and no record of my vote. Trump will return triumphant in 2024.
Thursday, July 29th 2021 at 11:48PM
Steve Williams
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Let’s talk about how Trump the loser of The 2020 Presidential Election and how it was stolen from Trump, this is the subject. Do you have any proof of Trump’s victory?
Friday, July 30th 2021 at 2:26AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You can see it with your own eyes this very day Ron. Trump continues to have a bigger following than Biden. Much bigger.
Friday, July 30th 2021 at 2:39AM
Steve Williams
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Trump never did have a following larger then Biden’s and you know for a fact, that you can’t win another Presidential Election unless you cheat and that is what you are doing right now in Republican states and that is to make it harder to vote.
Friday, July 30th 2021 at 2:51AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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We'll keep you from cheating in 2022 and see how that goes. It's shaping up to be a bloodbath.
Friday, July 30th 2021 at 10:28AM
Steve Williams
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So you want to divert the will of the people so that you can stop me from cheating by stop means people who look like me from exercising my right to vote based on a lie.
How low will you go Steve?
Friday, July 30th 2021 at 12:27PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Enough with the "people who look like me" Ron. It doesn't work on me.
Friday, July 30th 2021 at 4:05PM
Steve Williams
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So you want to divert the will of the people so that you can stop me from cheating by stop means
people who look like me from exercising my right to vote based on a lie.
...Enough with the "people who look like me" Ron. It doesn't work on me.
BOTH of youAll are handsome US USA Citizens; I pray.....
Friday, July 30th 2021 at 8:29PM
robert powell
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We all should have the freedom to vote because we are all Americans. Steve, do you believe these voting restriction laws are practical for one group of Americans, have the power to Restrict the voting rights of another group of Americans in this country?
Friday, July 30th 2021 at 11:54PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, you as an Illinoisan have no say in how we conduct elections in Pennsylvania.
Saturday, July 31st 2021 at 3:41AM
Steve Williams
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This question is applicable in a single state, For example, voting restriction laws being set in places like Texas and I believe 42 other states Republican controlled in this country.
Steve, do you believe these voting restriction laws are practical for one group of Americans, have the power to Restrict the voting rights of another group of Americans in this country?
Saturday, July 31st 2021 at 1:42PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, I don't think there are 43 "Republican controlled" states. You might want to check your math.
Saturday, July 31st 2021 at 2:02PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, do you believe these voting restriction laws are practical for one group of Americans, have the power to Restrict the voting rights of another group of Americans in this country?
Saturday, July 31st 2021 at 2:22PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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No Ron, don't be ridiculous. Everyone has access to the U.S. Postal Service. They are famous for it.
Saturday, July 31st 2021 at 5:22PM
Steve Williams
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Then why are The Republicans want to restrict my vote in the 43 states.
Saturday, July 31st 2021 at 7:36PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Who says RESTRICT Ron? Only you. Talk about fixing the long lines so folks won't wonder where there water is coming from. Those long lines are because of your BELOVED "election officials."
Saturday, July 31st 2021 at 9:08PM
Steve Williams
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17 States Have Passed Restrictive Voting Laws This Year, Report Says
The Supreme Court issued a new ruling on Thursday that upheld two Arizona laws restricting organizations' ability to collect mail-in ballots as well as invalidating ballots cast in the wrong precinct. Critics say the court's decision further erodes landmark voting protections codified by the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
Here’s my proof: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/17...
Saturday, July 31st 2021 at 10:50PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, did you know your precious vote isn't Constitutional? It's one of those norms you've just gotten used to. That's where your harebrained idea of federalizing elections comes from. Arizona has their say over their own elections and you have the same right in Illinois to select your Electors any way you like.
Saturday, July 31st 2021 at 11:15PM
Steve Williams
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So, are you in favor of restrictive Voting Laws Steve?
Saturday, July 31st 2021 at 11:51PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Nothing is likely to change in Pennsylvania Ron. We have a Democrat Govermor you know.
Sunday, August 1st 2021 at 1:42AM
Steve Williams
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So, are you in favor of restrictive Voting Laws Steve?
Sunday, August 1st 2021 at 8:40AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I'm in favor of banning all mail-in voting in Pennsylvania except for legitimate absentee voting.
Sunday, August 1st 2021 at 9:07AM
Steve Williams
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How about the overturning of a duly elected decision by the people of that state?
Sunday, August 1st 2021 at 11:10AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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What Ron, you think Governor Wolf would sign such a law? Maybe you should concern yourself with Illinois and leave Pennsylvania to the citizens of Pennsylvania.
Sunday, August 1st 2021 at 3:59PM
Steve Williams
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It's nice to dream though. Tom Wolf will be out in 2022. Watch us elect a Republican.
Sunday, August 1st 2021 at 4:04PM
Steve Williams
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That law may not be in Pennsylvania but it is in states like Georgia and Texas. You do you feel about the overturning of a duly elected decision by the people of that state?
That is happening across Republican Controlled States NOW?
Sunday, August 1st 2021 at 5:35PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, show me in the Constitution where the people directly elect the President. It's not there so explain how you think the people directly elect the President. Have you ever looked into it?
Sunday, August 1st 2021 at 10:15PM
Steve Williams
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Thus, we have four different methods of choosing our public officials, and each public official serves for a different length of time. This makes it virtually impossible for any party, faction, region, or socio-economic group to gain power throughout government. Exactly what our Founding Fathers intended.
Over the last hundred years, the United States has become more democratic. States and local governments added ballot propositions, giving the people a means of bypassing the legislature and governor to pass veto-proof legislation with a simple majority. The Seventeenth Amendment provided for direct election of senators. Originally, state legislatures selected the members of the electoral college; now the people of each state vote on which candidate each state’s electors will choose. Political parties used to choose their nominees, but states started moving to primary elections about 100 years ago (Oregon was the first to have a presidential preference primary in 1910). Now, the people instead of the parties choose their nominees. The people’s opinion gained even more strength with the advent of modern polling,
Not all these moves toward democracy are bad. Many, if not most, would argue that allowing the people to choose a party’s nominee is better than having party bosses do so. But overall, the trend toward democracy has weakened the systems of checks and balances our Founders established. The Founders were very wary of democracy and rightly so. As James Madison explains in Federalist No. 10:
Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.
http://www.whatwouldthefoundersthink.com/d...
Sunday, August 1st 2021 at 10:25PM
Steve Williams
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What did you say about how you feel about the overturning of a duly elected decision by the people of that state, just because the people in power doesn’t like the outcome?
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 12:00AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The People have no right to elect the President. That right belongs to the State Legislators. They are the ones the People have a right to elect. It's pretty simple Ron, the People are not qualified to elect the President directly.
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 3:09AM
Steve Williams
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To Choose A President
Summer 2012, Vol. 44, No. 2
By David S. Ferriero
The Electoral College. Established 1787.
It isn't really a college, and the electors aren't tenured professors.
The electors are really voters, and their votes count in a very big way.
The electors were created by the Constitution to do only one thing: elect the President and Vice President of the United States.
The Electoral College became part of the Constitution at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia in 1787, when delegates assembled to devise something to replace the Articles of Confederation.
By September, they had finally produced the Constitution, which represented a number of compromises among the delegates. One of the compromises involved the creation of the electors.
Some delegates wanted Congress to choose the President, but that would have upset the balance of power among the three branches of government. Others called for direct popular vote, but that would have left the decision in the hands of ill-informed voters who knew little about politicians outside their home state.
So they created electors. And they hoped the electors would be some of brightest and best informed people who would base their decisions on the candidates' merit. (Each state gets as many electoral votes as it has members in the Senate and House.)
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Today, the Electoral College's activities are overseen by the National Archives. We delegate this duty to our Office of the Federal Register, which every day publishes all the laws, regulations, and rules of the U.S. Government.
The Federal Register staff has been preparing for this duty for months, making sure officials in each state and the District of Columbia know what to do and when to do it, long before election day.
When you do go to the polls in November, you actually vote for a slate of electors pledged to vote for particular candidates for President and Vice President.
Some states require electors to vote for the candidate they've pledged to support. Other states do not have this requirement, and electors can vote for anyone they want, even if they've pledged to vote for a particular candidate.
The electors meet in their respective state capitals in mid-December and sign their ballots, which are then sent to Congress and the Federal Register.
Officials at the Register open their set and certify that the ballots are in proper order and are genuine—so there are no problems when an identical set is opened before a Joint Session of Congress in early January.
After Congress counts the votes, the candidate with a clear majority—270 out of 538—is elected. If no one gets a majority, the election goes to Congress to resolve. But the House has elected the President only twice, in 1801 and 1825, and the Senate has chosen the Vice President only once, in 1837.
In all but two states, the winner of the popular vote gets all the state's electoral votes. But not in Maine and Nebraska. The statewide winners receive two electoral votes (representing its two senators) and the winners of each of the congressional districts receive one electoral vote per district.
In 2000, Americans discovered, for the first time since 1876, that the popular vote winner isn't always the electoral vote winner. Then, Vice President Al Gore received about a half-million more popular votes nationwide than Texas Governor George W. Bush. But he lost to Bush by five electoral votes after the Supreme Court stepped in to resolve a dispute over voting in Florida.
The Federal Register staff has not always had an easy time in getting ballots in order for Congress in time for the counting. In 2004, it had to send back a couple of state certificates because they didn't bear the state seals. One year, the staff had to call state troopers to track down a governor to make sure the signed ballots arrived on time.
The electoral votes are counted in a joint session of Congress in early January, as specified by the Constitution, and the new President and Vice President take office at noon on January 20.
Despite problems, and despite calls for abolition or reform, legislation for an amendment to abolish the Electoral College has not been seriously considered in Congress for nearly 40 years.
A new Electoral College will be established this fall, and electors will meet in mid-December to cast their ballots. At the Federal Register, our staff will be standing by, ready to do the quadrennial honors.
Your role in all this: Vote!
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 10:32AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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That how the people of The United States of America picks a President by law.
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 10:34AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The Electors, in all cases, should be selected by the State Legislatures. 2020 proved that the popular vote is not a viable way to select the President, BECAUSE IT ADMITS MASSIVE FRAUD.
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 11:50AM
Steve Williams
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What ADMITTED MASSIVE FRAUD? Show me that proof in your next reply and if you can’t or shut the 🦆up!
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 2:06PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I said the popular vote "admits massive fraud." Let me help you out Ron, perhaps English isn't your native tongue.
transitive verb
1a : to allow scope for : PERMIT
admits no possibility of misunderstanding
b : to concede as true or valid
admitted making a mistake
2a : to allow entry (as to a place, fellowship, or privilege)
an open window had admitted rain
admitted to the club
b : to accept into a hospital as an inpatient
he was admitted last night for chest pains
intransitive verb
1 : to give entrance or access
2a : ALLOW, PERMIT
admits of two interpretations
b : to make acknowledgment —used with to
admitted to having doubts
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 2:51PM
Steve Williams
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Massive fraud was admitted in Arizona, with the withholding of the routers.
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 2:52PM
Steve Williams
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/*.."..Let me help you out Ron, perhaps English isn't your native tongue.."...*/.....:-)...:-)
...I pray Dr. Boulware will not sue me for plagiarism
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 5:46PM
robert powell
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Is that all you got as proof to prove your point of ADMITTED MASSIVE FRAUD?
Just what I thought you don’t have 💩 to show but more TRUMP’S LIES. Shame On You Steve!
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 6:11PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, I think it's an interesting climax, we are finally talking about democracy and human nature. That's what the founders were talking about too, what a coincidence.
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 6:15PM
Steve Williams
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Robertpowell, I guess the way you communicate is proper English?
LAUGHING OUT LOUD at that one💨.
Monday, August 2nd 2021 at 6:25PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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/*.."Robertpowell..the way you communicate is proper English?..LAUGHING..at that..💨..."...*/.:-).:-)
Tuesday, August 3rd 2021 at 8:41AM
robert powell
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