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A.B. Madyun
Entrepreneur, Self Location: San Leandro, CA United States Joined: Feb 4th, 2009 |
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The belief in one G_d and not 3
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Truth has it's boundaries whenever a person decides to make up their own truths. Whenever that happens, a person becomes their own G_d. Always remember that there is only one creator, and that man is not self created. You do not have the power over your life nor your death. If so, then avert it from yourself, because all the medicine in the world cannot keep you alive in this life when the death angels come for you. Only a supreme being greater than yourself can make the sky, and the water, and everything else that you see around you. If you think, for instance, that man can build a house, or plant a tree, ask yourself who made it possible for man to do these things? Was it man himself? No...it was his maker, and He, Allah (The One G_d...there are not three) has power over everything in His dominion. Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 08/15/2014 |
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I speak truth... True friendship endures... Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 08/12/2014 |
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BTW...If you live a disciplined life of morals and values of kindness, and good treatment of your fellow man, then what you call strict isn't really strict at all if what you say is authentic...right? But I'm not going to get into that with you because it's your business how you live your life...right? Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 08/11/2014 |
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Don't worry, Cynthia...I won't give up on you no matter how much you kick, scream, and fight what I am telling you. Using your own intelligence (and you are quite intelligent...more than you are putting out to be), you know that what I am telling you is the truth. I am intelligent enough to know that all the things that I have told you are not anything new to you...that you didn't let all this stuff get past you before you ever bumped into me on this forum. Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 08/11/2014 |
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I'm kind of the opinion that you have not been following the differences that I have laid out in our discussions with David, and the rest of your friends on the difference between the NOI, and Islam as we are practicing within the association of THEM's son, Imam W. Deen Mohammed. Of course I realize that over a year has gone by since I last participated in those disjointed discussions with Irma, Steve, and David. What I offered at that time was one simple thing, and that is that the Hon Elijah Muhammad told us under his leadership that it was not his job to teach us the religion, but that the one who was to come after him would teach us the religion which all has taken place like clock work. In other words, The Hon Elijah Muhammad did not teach us the religion of Islam. He just introduced it to us. Though he told us to always keep a Qur'an in our possession, he did not teach us the Qur'an (although from time to time he would quote from it). Instead, he taught us from the bible, the book that he taught us was a poison book because it had been tampered with down through history, and that it needed reinterpretation so that man would not be snared by it's falsehoods. Bear in mind, this does not say that there is no truth in the bible. There is plenty of truth in the bible, yet it must be properly understood. Imam Mohammed, once into his leadership after his father's death explained to us that his father taught us from the bible because since the bible placed us as a people in the dark, that it took darkness to take us out of the same darkness we had been placed in. There's nothing complicated about the differences between the two "ideologies" as you termed them. One actually is an ideology (the NOI), because G_d sent us one who experimented on the so-called American negro, and it worked. It is very hard for our people to believe that G_d would send the black man in America a deliverer from all our suffering. If G_d sent every other people a messenger, why should we think that we are any different. The white image of Jesus on the cross that was presented to us as the son of G_d is what gives us that inferiority complex as much as it has given the Caucasian his false sense of superiority. No matter how hard we try to fight it, it does not help us to deny truth when we have actually lived this experience, read about it, and have suffered under it. Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 08/11/2014 |
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I feel that I live a disciplined life by way of morals... Values.. And treatment of my fellow man. I try to live with love... Kindness... Compassion and understanding. I was taught to respect my parents.. family and friends. To whom much is given.. much is expected... Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 08/11/2014 |
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I too have been insulted because of my teachings as a Christian. But what I believe has no bearing s on what others choose to believe. Like all families.. diverse religious thought is shared by my family from believers to non believers. Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 08/11/2014 |
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I'm interested to find out from you what "too strict" means, because I have always recognized that discipline has always been the one important component that has illuded the African American. In addition, contrary to what someone may have attempted to influence you to believe about Islam, G_d tells us in the Qur'an that there is no compulsion in religion...that truth stands out clear from error. So ultimately it is up to the individual whether they choose to live a disciplined life, or an undisciplined one. One has positive results, and the other (I'm afraid) does not. Man has the option of choosing his own path because he is the only creature of Allah that He bestowed that choice upon. Not even the angels have a choice other than to obey Him. So we are privileged to have that distinction, and in a sense, you have some control of your own destiny, and what to expect in the next life. But...what the heck...don't let me confuse you with any facts...right? Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 08/11/2014 |
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You have always had my respect regarding your beliefs. Have I ever not done this? I think you confuse me with my brother. Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 08/11/2014 |
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I accept that you have your own opinions and beliefs, and I very much respect that. Can I get as equal the respect that I give to you? You do not have to believe as I do in order to respect my beliefs. I'm sure that you are intelligent, and so you therefore can readily realize that I don't worship satan. By the same token, I as much do not subscribe to Western thought because I already recognized that it insulted my intelligence as a child in my innocence.
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BTW...Islam is not an ideology. No matter how any Muslim sees it, it still translates from Arabic into English as "total" submission to the will of G_d. From there it is up to the intelligence of the observer to gauge what it is, or what it is not based on what you see. The best behavior should always serve as the best barometer of what is true and what is not. To resist what your heart tells you is real, and what is not is to go against your own god given propensity to obey the inborn nature that G_d gave you. You should never allow yourself to be caught between two opinions when you already know what's right, and what is not. Always remember that life is not what we want it to be. It is what G_d intended for it to be. So no matter how much we desire to see reality as something other than what it is, it will still remain in it's true reality. Reality never changes, but man's mind does (quite often)!! Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 08/11/2014 |
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A. B. You know very well that I am of my own opinions and beliefs. Also I feel that I am very objective. I don't take your thoughts as my thoughts. I am always open to different ideologies... Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 08/11/2014 |
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Not important just so long as you understand that no one can persuade anyone against their will which is not my intent from the jump. There is a difference between trying to twist someone's arm to accept their beliefs vs sharing what you have. New ideology is usually the biggest thing that we are slow to accept, even if it is just merely accepting it for the presenter, and not your own self. One thing that I'm confident in, and that is that I have never told you anything that would harm you. I'll leave a person alone before I would attempt that. Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 08/11/2014 |
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Interesting... But as I told you.. I'm not too familiar with the two different ideologies of Islam. In order for me to understand.. I'd have to go to the beginning. I think I told you before my great aunt was Muslim. She followed the teachings of brother Malcolm. And these Muslim s that I have meetings follow certain rules that I think are too strict. Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 08/11/2014 |
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Cynthia...It's actually an old comment from the blog about Imam W. D. Mohammed whom David believes he's an authority on as well as the religion of Islam...a subject he completely misunderstands. Islam is not a religion in terms of labels because it is a complete way of life if you follow it's logic to the proper conclusion. This way of life can help anyone have a better life if properly understood. Most Americans understand it as the media portrays it. The media is controlled by Zionist Jews (not the real Jews) because it exposes their dirty way of life that they have sold to the world. As the Hon Elijah Muhammad told Malcolm, if you give the people water from a dirty glass (symbolic of a mindset), then that is what the people will accept. But if you give them water from a clean glass, then they will accept that. This is to say that the minds of the masses is controlled by leadership, a phenomenon that we cannot deviate away from. This is true for the majority of people in the society. Accepting the Islamic way of life does not necessarily mean that you have to accept the religion. Remember, religion is a label only as it is commonly used. But for us (those of us associated with the leadership of Imam W. Deen Mohammed), religion to us is a way of life...it's the way that you live your life. Being raised up from a baby in any other environment that may take you away from a natural way of life comes from other circumstances. But Al-Islam (submission to the will of almighty G_d) is only the nature of man, and not labelled "religion" as we have grown to understand it from the societal perspective. Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 08/11/2014 |
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Is that the blog (I just commented on)... You are referencing? Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 08/11/2014 |
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I am quite familiar with PAUL and NO HE did travel spreading Christianity... I have to find that blog it's been a while. Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 08/11/2014 |
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Hey U!!! Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 08/11/2014 |
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Wake IE Up!
Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 06/06/2013 |
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thank you I will check it out.. Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 05/30/2013 |
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uh huh.... Peace be unto you as well.......... Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 05/27/2013 |
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Sarcastic!!! Hmmm!! Again...your opinion. Cool!!! Peace! Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 05/25/2013 |
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Again... Madyun... NO... I do not get my feathers ruffled if no one agrees with me... In Religon no... I do not challenge. The Koran King James Version Book of Mormons, Watch Tower, Gnostic Scriptures, BOOKS all written by Men whom said this is what God said... I think i was 13 when I aksed the question if Adam and Eve begat Cain Abel and Seth... when Cain left he took his wife.... Where did his wife come from? Well I asked my priest then my pastor and lets say I was in my twenties when I found the answer.... then of course the bible details the seperation of the languages via the building of the Babylon tower but was a bit skiddish with the race differences... I often wondered why .... I said the Bible is just that a manual of allegories... I do regard it as a Teaching Manual and the book of Ruth is my favorite of all the stories and the book of
Corithians is my second. although you are trying to be a bit sarcastic... But yes David and I are of the same... That can't change...kinship... However ... friendship it forever changes. Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 05/25/2013 |
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The Coming Day
by Sabir Abdussabur
To whom this may concern.
There will be a day
in which we will have to turn our backs on everything we know,
to discover and learn that which we don't.
So please know that I am not turning my back to you.
This is just the chapter in life In which I must become a greater scholar;
a better person.
And no I cannot burn, skip, rip or rewrite the pages.
So do not mistake a human being's necessity to discover knowledge
as abandonment, or betrayal,
because the truth is, I have been betraying myself for most of my life while honoring a life.
but one day that life shall understand that when my back comes to turn again,
that which we once held dear be put back into light,
or remain amongst blight for backs to be turned to forever.
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Islam is not about I'm better than you...it's about "let me show you something that might work better for you, and you don't have to join anything!"
Just remember sometimes my example may not show the best Islamic character but I'm a work in progress, G-d willing. Like the rest of us no matter what path we all must follow the straight psth to the creator of us all. Now I will stop... preaching Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 05/25/2013 |
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You're a good sister, but you allow your feathers to be too easily ruffled if your point is not accepted. Yet I don't know anybody in the world that everybody agrees with on anything, nor everything...do you? Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 05/24/2013 |
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All you're saying, Cynthia, is the same thing that I am saying in rejection of what I say. It makes no sense to go back and forth like this. That's the reason why we, the Muslims believe, as it says in the book, to not dwell on the things that we cannot agree on. instead, Allah extols us to come together on what we can agree on. Those are words with meaning for the sake of guidance. If it's just the belief in one G_d that we have in common, then why don't we just talk about and agree on just that one commonality. Going back and forth concerning what you reject of the other person is a waste of time. The chain has to be broken by one of us for the sake of peace. Are you in agreement with that one fact? We're both saying the same things, and it's going nowhere. The words of the Qur'an are not just words. If you read the words with understanding they are words of guidance. But that is not for you, because you would rather go on empty words (that's what you said):
"...I don't go rattling off verses from the Bible because that is just that words..."
If they are "just words" what good are they if they are not able to help you? Well...I guess we are too far apart on this because you now think that I'm attacking you personally. Now who is being bullheaded? Is that what this is about? Am I expected to just come in here, and just change my mind about my convictions? I'm sorry that I disappointed you. If you don't think that any book is qualified to give guidance unless you believe it, isn't that your and my beliefs incapsulated? You were right about one thing...you and David are the same. Before I go, I'd like to thank you for inviting me to this forum. I enjoyed it immensely, and I'd also like to leave you with a thought to ponder...words truly do make people. G_d's peace be with you, Cynthia. Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 05/24/2013 |
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I never said this ((So it looks as though you have your mind made up that I came on this blog for purposes other than I did.)) and in response to this: ((Qur'an (the most highly qualified source available). )) ...... I disagree... I do not believe that any of these written books are actual qualified sources for anyone but for he whom believes. The King James Version included.... Again, you have mistaken me... The Ten Commandments are said to be written by the hand of GOD... when Moses broke the stone... GOD's instructions were to Moses were to write them in his heart! You being a Teacher of Psychology know... that we humans have a conscious and a will... Morals and Values.... I don't go rattling off verses from the Bible because that is just that words.... and without works what good are those words that one has recited. BullHeaded people simply believe that they have ALL THE ANSWERS... well like you say we are all different people... your answers and beliefs are not everyone's ..... I have always considered myself a leader... only for those whom chose to follow... but I never for once think that I want people to follow me or believe what I say....
(( A person that trusts only himself to make good judgment is a fool and is not wise. God created us to rely on Him for His purposes. He is our moral compass who we should trust to make good decisions in life. )) so sorry you have again picked up a negative vibe about me.... #1... I invited you to engage in discussion... it wasn't some tickerization... but for some reason you feel as though I am trying to play some cat and mouse game with you; and I find that a lil bit offensive.. because first thing... I don't have that kind of strive or malice in my heart towards you... but I guess that's something you will have to see for yourself.
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I am not worried that Davis is a threat to me. If that were the case, I am intelligent enough to at least reason that if I were afraid of him, I am here, and he is where he is. No...my purpose is to expose David's hand for what he really is. And I said it numerous times, yet I don't mind saying it again, I did not come on this blog to show out and argue over a bunch of nonsense. I came because; 1) you invited me, and 2) My only purpose for what I submitted was purely for educational purposes. So it looks as though you have your mind made up that I came on this blog for purposes other than I did. That's your opinion, I respect your opinion both because you have a right to it, and because it doesn't matter to me what people opinion as long as I know the truth of the matter. You should never think a person has to agree with you. What if a person agrees with you, yet it's not in his/her heart. As I told "bullheaded" David, a man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still. As a man thinketh, so is he. As Allah states it in Qur'an;
Say: "Everyone acts according to his own disposition: But your Lord knows best who it is that is best guided on the Way."
(Holy Qur'an, Al-Isra, 17:84)
So ultimately, it is up to Allah (G_d) to make the final determination in man's affairs, and I have full faith, and place my trust in Allah who is the best to judge. Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 05/24/2013 |
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You are saying that I am opinionated as your opinion, Cynthia. My opinion went out the window the day that I declared that there is no G_d but Allah, and Prophet Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. So all of the opinions that you opinonate as coming from me did not come from me. Rather it originated out of assiduous research and studies of qualified sources of high scholars, and the Qur'an (the most highly qualified source available). I don't expect anyone who has not trodden the path that I have to agree with me, so it is most understandable that you call it opinion. You also opinion that I am bullheaded, but that's because you get frustrated because I don't agree with you on some subjects. It is only nature for people to disagree with one another, because G_d did not create us to agree on everything. Everyone sees life differently. But that is not what is termed as bullheadedness. Bullheadedness is when a person absolutely refuses to accept a proven fact that is conclusively, and undeniably true. So I will have to categorically disagree with you that I am a bullheaded person. I have never been accused of being that by anyone but you, so you are the first, and perhaps not the last (which will probably come right before I leave this world...smile). I have a friend that fits that description though. If you want to know what a true bullheaded person is, you need to meet this guy. He's just like David (or is David enough). You're just kidding about that...right? You've got to be kidding!! LOL Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 05/24/2013 |
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wow!! I have diabetes as well... and it's very difficult to control... I have visual disturbances .... Madyun... I often find myself navigating towards the "forceful - highly opinionated, stubborn" male mentalities on this blog... And I find that YOU, Robert and David are the three men with similiar character traits... Stubborn/Bull-Headed/Opinionated/and just down right Proud!! I don't see these qualities as deficient... I think all "four" of you want to have the last word... (keep smiling) .... I am confident that what you see as opposition now will change .... I have not been on this site yet and have not witness the positiveness of Robert, David, Steve and you.... Men are challengers... it's been that way since the cave men... the Romans... The Gladiators.... uuummm you get the picture... David's no "threat" to you... Personally it's comical (from a woman stand point)... I'm reading comments from all of you men!! Beating your dang gone chests and yelling your Tarzan Calls.... LOL... It'll work out just fine! BUT as I told you earlier... Religion is too controversial and anyone who analyzes one religion over another ... will always get caught up in a discomfort! BUT still... I am your friend and they too.... Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 05/24/2013 |
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Steve is just who I initially said he was. He's a weak, insecure example of a man. He is not a leader. rather, he's a follower. He is what Imam Mohammed described as a dust person. He goes wherever the wind blows him to. He's a highly opinionated person who is never settled on any of them. He's very confused and unsure of himself, thus exposing his own insecurities. Steve needs spiritual guidance as does David even moreso. He is more confused than Steve. Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 05/24/2013 |
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David blocked me because I exposed his weak comments, and nullified them. I also exposed his insecurity. He's just another big mouth that wants to have the last say so. He's still in the kindergarten, and has a baby's mentality. (BIG SMILE) :-) Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 05/24/2013 |
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Tell him that if he can only resort to violence as a solution to settling disagreements, then he is no better than those niggas out there in the streets. Be sure to remind him that he is threatening a man that is 68 years old with diabetes, bad knees, and two herniated discs in his back suffered in an occupational accident. I only fear Allah, so I'm not afraid of him, and if he would threaten me, would he also threaten his own father? Tell him I got something for 6'3", 245 lb niggas that like to threaten old men! He's probably a woman abuser too!!!! (CHUCKLE) Tagged by A.B. Madyun on 05/24/2013 |
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Oh wow!! yep you struck a nerve.... yeah... he is my kinship.... and when he metion marines.... ayi yi yi.... let me see what I can find out once I review his blog. Tagged by Cynthia Merrill Artis on 05/24/2013 |
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