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George H. Bush was 41st President and was in office January 20, 1989 – January 20, 1993. His son, George W. Bush was 43rd President in office between 2001 to 2009. Thats the normal way of life. A son advances his father. Scripture refers to a son as a reward. Wallace went against his father which makes him a hypocrite of the first degree. For What....Because his father was unlearned...yet was able to move people, push money in the black community in the form of restaurants, bakeries, clothing stores, newspaper, cosmetics, oils, and much more. Wallace ended that to replace it with "chit chatter" or in other words language that attempted to UNDO what his father had buillt. So, the Nation of Islam fell to a squeak in America in the area of 1980s. But, a double hypocrite...because as a true Muslim and growing up in the Muslim School it taught us that the One God progress wisdom of and understanding with each entry of prophets into the world. Each prophet is a continuation of the knowledge and wisdom till the succeeding prophet...so as to keep wisdom and understanding updated. As the universe is alive and changes moment by moment coming up with Truth each time. So We have Moses that brought a wisdom and advanced on the wisdom of Noah and Abraham. Then there was Jesus that advanced the wisdom carried along since David and Solomon. After Jesus came Muhammad of Arabia which advanced the wisdom since Jesus....After that...some 1400 years later came Elijah Muhammad of America. Or did the Muslims think that Allah was going to forget about America ? This is the most powerful country on Earth today....did the Asian Muslims think that Allah would not raise a prophet for America. He did for Arabia ! What makes Wallace a double hypocrite is because to took the Muslims backwards...those that followed Wallace. Learning to speak Arabic and how to read the Holy Quran is an asset. But, if you are confined in awe to reading the Quran which is what they were doing 1400 years ago since Islam was finally presented in text form, and NOT FOCUSED ON THE HEAR AND NOW....that the land you are living in has been Judged.....Judgement has been placed on America. Wallace took muslims backwards where they are not even focused on the Judgement of America. They are more excited about being able to say the prayers in Arabic....which is good. Wallace brought Muslims of 2000 year backward to 1400 year. Wisdom moves foreward....It turns out that the wisdom of Elijah Muhammad was to advance the wisdom and understanding of the Quran and prophet Muhammad of Arabia. Instead, Elijah Muhammad's son went backwards as almost to spite the father. That makes him (Wallace) a double hypocrite: first, for living in opposition to his Father; and second for taking Muslims backward about 1400 years in the days of prophet Muhammad of Arabia.
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Friday, March 12th 2010 at 5:37PM
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any man that has to talk so demonically about a dead man is nothing more, in my humble opinion, than anal excrement.
Friday, March 12th 2010 at 7:20PM
robert powell
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The impact on peoples lives is a responsibility that every person of notoriety has to face. Look how they speak of John (Jack) Johnson, world heavyweight champion of 1908 how though he was dumb and loved the white people women and wanted to disclaim his people similar to Wallace in disclaiming his father. Even though Jack Johnson was one of the first of a line up of black heroes of the 20th century. But, his life was opened up to understand he did not want to be considered a black people champion...Why he prefered to sweatheart with white women.
What would make Wallace turn against his own father is the question.....His deeds speak for themselves...they are laid out there....He tore down practically everthing his father had built up....but it will rise again like never before bigger and better.
Friday, March 12th 2010 at 7:43PM
jamal Abraham
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little guy,
According to negroChristianPaganThought --- jesus took the responsibility of sins of men and women. That's your thesis?
Well, Allaah says men and women are responsible for their actions................
Even Mohamed(as) was told that His only Responsibility was to convey the message of AlQur'aan--and Believe-but you wouldn't know that, you refuse to 'Iqra.
jackassJohnson equating to WarithDeen--you little guy are a sick puppy.....
and the south will rise again in sarah palin....................
Friday, March 12th 2010 at 8:55PM
robert powell
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The truth of jesus is that he told the jews and whites that they would have to be born again...because the life that they live speaks against them. But they did not want to be born again so they killed him. Prophet Mohamed brought Islam in text form. And nothing about his teachings did he ever condemn Jesus. No prophet of God would or person that is guided by Allah. But Elijah Muhammad updated the Holy Quran with Message to the Blackman in America....otherwise, we would never know what Allah the One God would have us to know here in America. So, we thank almighty God Allah for sending us his last messenger, the most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Even though, Warith Dean tried to close the door on the Nation of Islam, it was not the will of Allah. So why we mention Warith Dean Muhammad along with Jack Johnson the famous boxer because both were famous and defected their people.
Friday, March 12th 2010 at 9:08PM
jamal Abraham
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What a nonsense thread. Lol.
Wallace was never a hypocrite because he never in his life confessed or said he believed the stupid pimp religion his Father taught millions. I'm sure Elijah Muhammad is roasting in hell and his son may have been the one to save his soul. Lol.
No one in the current silly version of the Nation of Islam under Farrakhan can explain properly how in a room full of people Elijah Muhammad passed on the Nation of Islam Leadership to his son Wallace whom was a well known disbeliever. Elijah Muhammad personally begged his son to redeem him by weening the people off of the foolish teachings he had gave them for so many years!
Now as to the Wallace instructing Muslims to learn Arabic hell why not? Even Obama said Americans should learn other languages besides American English. An educated person always wants to know more and it why not be learn to read the Quran instead of taking the interpetation of someone else?
I don't think Wallace did anything great in the end but he put an end to a great false teaching that misguided millions and brought the death of at least one man, "Malcolm X" and ruined his family.
Saturday, March 13th 2010 at 3:15PM
John Washington
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There were circumstances in the transition to Wallace from Messenger Elijah Muhammad that was troublesome. But, history foretold in scripture depicts troublesome activity surrounding the lives and death of most prophets and messengers. What is important is their representation for truth. Civilization looks for truth for guidance in maintaining their nation. Truth is not subjective but it is objective reality thus proving itself. What makes the teachings of Elijah Muhammad the truth is that is continues to collaborate with reality.
It turns out that Wallace was a hypocrite and a double hypocrite at that....He tried to dissolve the identity of black people as muslims in America. As if 40 million black people in America is incidental . Islam was brought to America to save Black people from the mind control teachings of the slavemaster. By the time Islam came to America, 1400 years had passed since the last prophet. The truth has to be updated in that amount of time. Its like if a placed a red apple on the kitchen table one day and then wait 30 days and apple is no longer red....therefore to speak about the apple, the truth must be updated. The profound teachings of Elijah Muhammad makes black people feel proud...black Americans know that they have something that the Asians do not have......They have a truth that was brought to them and did not originate in other parts of the world.....but right here in America. With Wallace, the black Muslims became translucent by giving up their birthright for companionship with their Arab Muslim.
But with Messenger Elijah Muhammad, the Black American was the hidden treasure...bound for greatness if he accepts his own and straighten up. All of the teachings of Elijah Muhammad has proven to be true...the problems only come into play of persons trying to articulate the message...but the message itself...it right and very much on time.
Sunday, March 14th 2010 at 12:25AM
jamal Abraham
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You dodge fact and run to rhetoric the same as Farrakhan which is why he's not taken seriously anymore. People whom hide in fantasy or scripture have the same thing in common they allow what they believe to over ride fact. You and no one or any scripture can change the fact in a room full of people Elijah Muhammad turned over the leadership to a so-called hypocrite. Prophet Muhammad when he was on his deathbed did no such thing. Prophet Muhammad turned over his power to Ali his son in law and husband of his daughter Fatima. You can't use no historical trick to take away the fact Elijah Muhammad own actions validate Wallace's story that his father wanted people weened off of his pimp religion.
Minister Farrakhan killed Malcolm X but before he died he adopted Malcolm's entire speaking style but he left out one important essential and that is Malcolm X dealt with fact backed up by powerful rhetoric. Where Minister Farrakhan only teaches rhetoric and tries to manipulate minds around the truth. The truth is Wallace saved Black Muslims from an very ignorant and dark path that Elijah Muhammad put them on. Wallace undid what his father had done like a good son and well he might not have had a huge accomplishment in the positive sense he helped rid the world of negativity.
Tuesday, March 16th 2010 at 4:14PM
John Washington
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Brother John, I for one find it hard to believe that you would slam Elijah Muhammad like that. If I recall correctly, it was you who recommended that we all read the book "The Fall Of America" am I right?
Also, you stated the following reason for Malcolm being killed in a private message addressed to me some months back:
Malcolm X gave his life for living revolution and giving us lessons on what revolution really is. He spoke these words in his book by Alex Haley. Malcolm said, Mao Tse Tung the communist leader started off as a farmer revolutionary whom went to village to village in Southern China converting people and those whom refused to joined died. Pretty soon Mao was in control of most of China. When he warred against the puppet backed government of China he did so after their war with the Japanese when they were weak. When Mao finally attacked the puppet government it was too weak to deal with his small guerilla army. Malcolm when on to say that Mao never had to fire one shot at the European invaders once they realized that Mao was in full control and their hold over the people was broken they retreated without a war! Malcolm was suggesting that if Blacks got control over their community then the rest would fall in place. Also he was suggesting dealing with the disagreers, turncoats, traitors and people amongst whom take advantage of our crisis would send a powerful statement we are committed to directing our own destiny. And if you look at all revolutions it was always conducting by dealing with the hypocrites, turncoats, traitors and selfish in the society was the way to achieving the ultimate victory. This is why Malcolm was killed because he understood this. Malcolm and King both with against the Uncle Tom leadership in the Black community that make it possible for us to experience injustices by being the stumbling block to our unity. So either violently or philosophically we must deal with the selfish socio-paths in our midst in order to cleanse the path for our other goals. Peace.
Tuesday, March 16th 2010 at 4:20PM
Siebra Muhammad
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No. I didn't say the man was entirely wrong no one even Hitler can't contribute something whether negative or positive. Elijah Muhammad's book the fall of america is a very telling book of the future of America in the political sense. The nonsense in it about UFOs and God coming on a UFO to scoop of Blacks is pure fantasy. I praised Mr. Muhammad for his insight into America's future which can be found in a number of books besides the Fall of America.
Wednesday, March 17th 2010 at 11:02AM
John Washington
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Messenger Elijah Muhammad was able to teach religion and discipline among Black men and Black women. How does a man with a 3rd grade education get Black men to put down the bottle and give up the drugs ? How does he get black women with few morals to clean up and put on garments that makes her look like a queen. Cover her hair and wash her body to take on a new look. Messenger Muhammad has the spirit of Allah all over him and you don't have to be a Muslim to know it. He was not assassinated. He was not killed. He died a natural death. His son, thought that he could erase the deeds of his father. But, Wallace was wrong...the works of Messenger Elijah Muhammad will out live the destruction of Wallace. Why.....because Allah is God and He who Allah befriends...is not disgraced. As for Wallace....he was a disgrace.
Thursday, March 18th 2010 at 11:15PM
jamal Abraham
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Teach hard Brother! Eat them up like a cherry in a game of Pacman!!
Friday, March 19th 2010 at 1:33PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Nonsense.
You're in here on behalf of your leader who killed Malcolm X and robbed the Nation. Then you defend a man who slept with under age girls while in his 70's and claimed to be a prophet when Islam said there would be no more messengers or prophets of Allah.You're saying Mr. Muhammad died of natural causes while you follow a man Farrakhan whom teaches you Wallace was wrong and a hypocrite. Yet Farrakhan says Elijah Muhammad was poisioned by doctors at Mercy Hospital and he didn't die of natural causes. This Farrakhan even wants the body of Mr. Muhammad exumed to compare dental records while the family said no they knew their father was dead.
Take a look at this if Master Fard Muhammad is God how is that any different than saying a white man is God because Master Fard is a white man?
And how is it that Mr. Muhammad teaches Master Fard Muhammad's father was Black but there's not a any black in the man? Look at Halle Berry her mother is white and look at Barrack Obama his mother is white yet both of them have color while Fard doesn't. You are worshiping a white man and Wallace knew it that's why he said he never believe that man in the picture i.e Fard was God.
Sunday, March 21st 2010 at 3:25PM
John Washington
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Brother John, It greatly appears that you are as mentally disturbed as Harry Watley, or addicted to the Mad Dog 20/20. What you speak of concerning the NOI is absolutely ludicrous.
This is a reply to you on a blog of yours however I will post it here because of the subject matter:
Warith Deen was a traitor and was no friend of Black People! One can say a lot of words, but when you look at their actions, you get the truth of themselves. Warith Deen's father Elijah Muhammad shown where his heart was, with Black Man completely and their rise from the hells of North America!
But Warith Deen and his Boss J. Edgar Hoover of the FBI, the one whom he was working for also have shown what they thought of Black People, J. Edgar Hoover wanted the Black Man and Woman as Slaves and Warith Deen wanted to be the HAIC (Head Asskisser In Charge).
Under Elijah Muhammad one did not see the Black Man and Woman taught to carry gun and knives for each other, one did not see those taught by Elijah Muhammad trying their best to cheat and bull**** Black People. Elijah and his followers did everything they could to help get the Black Man/Blackwoman out of the mud that they were enjoying and were wallowing in like swine.
Elijah Muhammad taught us "How To Eat To Live." Now take a look at Wallace's followers compared to Elijah's followers and Farrakhan's followers. The majority of Wallace's followers are so huge they would make Richard Simmons say "Damn!" upon looking at them. Wallace's follower's are eating all the wrong food and looking like the most filthy people on earth, even more than the rotten slavemaster.
Anyone saying anything good about Warith Deen Mohammad shows that they must agree with white folks that we all should be slaves, for Warith was a two for nickel hypocrite if there ever was one!
Sunday, March 21st 2010 at 4:01PM
Siebra Muhammad
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That all true...Sis. Siebra...You are RIGHT ON !
Sunday, March 21st 2010 at 5:58PM
jamal Abraham
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You still have not answered a legtimate question of why Elijah Muhammad in a room full of people gave Wallace the Power and not someone else whom believed? Everyone knew Wallace didn't believe the teachings of his father. When I was a teen I heard Minister Rasoul Muhammad personally lecture us in F.O.I class on how his brother Wallace was no hypocrite because Wallace never believed the nonsense teachings.
You are in here downing an innocent man who tried to wake you up from worshiping a White man as God.
Monday, March 22nd 2010 at 9:56PM
John Washington
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The paint brush you are using to paint Wallace is the wrong shade. When Wallace took over that February in 1975, he did not start right out preaching against his father. It took perhaps a couple of years before Muslim believers realized this man is gradually trying to negate the teachings of his father. Wallace was educated...one of the few in his family with a formal education, though acquired overseas. Certainly, he would have been a consideration. It clearly was deception that he gradually begin to change doctrine and ideology after his father death. Its what make his such a terrible hypocrite because he was cunning about his deceit. In attempt to bring as many followers of the Messenger along only to ease his devilishness in small dosages until the deed was done...coming right out and opposing the authenticity of Master Fard Muhammad. What to wear a beard and walk around with bad breath quoting the Quran ? There is no testimony in deeds that demonstrate anything good about Wallace. If Messenger Elijah Muhammad was full of nonsense teachings...then he should have had nonsense results...to the contrary...the results of the Messenger's teachings did more for ethnic reform of Black people than any other ideology in all of America's history.
Monday, March 22nd 2010 at 11:01PM
jamal Abraham
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Bottom Line, the 1930-1945 Thought of Elijah Muhammad had NOTHING to do with AlQur'aan, AlIslaam or the Sunnah of Mohamed(as)----
it was only negroPaganThought vs negroPaganChristianThought.
Anyone, who in 1975 or 2010, that believes 1930 negroPaganThought is a DISBELIEVER, not a Hypocrite.
To be a hypocrite, As Allaah defines in AlQur'aan, a person had to have Made Shahadah----LaIlllahaIllallaah, Mohamed Rasul Allaah. and then gone against the teaching and scholarship of AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed!
BIA was formed as the preamble states to stop stereotype and misconceptions.
but little, solo, siebra, john, harry, etc. LIVE for misconceptions, lies, falsehood and NO scholarship.....
will you negros learn something, and stop talking about the dead, as the dead.
Tuesday, March 23rd 2010 at 9:40AM
robert powell
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Wallace had to make the changes he made by small steps otherwise there would be rebellion and bloodshed. He told that his father Elijah Muhammad wanted him to ween the people off of the foolish teachings. Ween means to take slow careful steps.
Again you fall on your face which is what you seem to always do Mr. Jamal whenever you try come against me.
Tuesday, March 23rd 2010 at 1:05PM
John Washington
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Brother John, I strongly encourage you to not continue to write a check that you cannot cash. The clownish nature of your comments on this blog speaks for itself.
Tuesday, March 23rd 2010 at 3:01PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Harry, We Know Folk Like You Who Claim To Be So-Called Prophets Are Infact, So-Called America Negroes Who Hate Being Black People From America. In fact They Have A Real Bad Hatered For Self, And They Really Love White People. They Find It Easy To Submit To White People, And Think It Is Above Them To Say That Allah (God) Would Ever Send The Black Nation A Messenger. Because They Think Black People Are Nothing, And God Would Never Send A Messenger To Nothing! The Whole Purpose They Have On This Web-Site Is To Come And Try And Teach Us That Only White People Are The Only Ones That Allah Is Interested In. And How Dare We Think That Allah Would Be Interested In Our Affairs. We Are Nothing That God Should Be Interested In!He Cannot Talk To Us In The Language We Understand They Try And Talk Down To Us, As If We Are Fools. You Talk To Harry And He Quotes Moses So Much, You Would Think That He Is Moses Himself. That Is Fine If You are Somewhere Like Jerusalem, But Not If You Are In The Projects. He Looks Like A Fool When He Does This. Language Was Made For Us To Communicate With One Another, And By Speaking Gobbly Goo-Goo To Us That Makes Him Smarter Then Us In His Mind.
Tuesday, March 23rd 2010 at 10:27PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Sounds like bro. John was one of those brothers anxious to quit selling Muhammad Speaks Newspaper. Wallace came in said that the brothers did not have to sell Muhammad speaks newspaper and they could wear a beard. Laziness crept in and many Muslims were excited to take the bait. Without Muhammad Speaks sales, the Nation lost significant revenue....DUMB...Cities lost revenue and Mosques and businessses suffered. Messenger Elijah Muhammad was a businessman and that is what you want in a leader and teacher. Not just a teacher of wisdom of one who could administrate. Wallace was no businessman....He was a Hypocrite without his fathers skill and generating revenue and reinvesting in enterprise.
Wednesday, March 24th 2010 at 7:56AM
jamal Abraham
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Harry, What !
The point you are making about raising the dead is a good idea. Problem is that Messenger Elijah Muhammad proceeded you. You are about 80 years too late. So what you say, I have already heard it or it is absurd. It sounds like you want to copy what Messenger Elijah Muhammad already done or venture into something insane to fathom.
Your insignificance to the Nation of Islam is evident in that everyone wants to ignore you or in my case if your comments are foolish to the Nth degree....best to delete.....
Wednesday, March 24th 2010 at 8:02AM
jamal Abraham
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Robert Powell.....This is America....This is not Saudi Arabia.....Talk English or 99% of the Black Americans have no clue what the Hell you are speaking about. So says the Holy Quran....When Allah seeks to warn a people, he sends one among that people that speaks their language so as they do not speak as Robert Powell......
Maybe Robert should read the Quran that he professes
Wednesday, March 24th 2010 at 8:07AM
jamal Abraham
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Wallace died a hypocrite and as one even at death, mud continues to be thrown on him. He went against his father, his people and almighty God Allah.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 12:32AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jama,
You keep deleting my reply, knucklehead.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 1:15AM
Harry Watley
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How long does it take you to type some of your lengthy comments, Harry. It takes me 1 second to delete your comments. If you want to take your time only to be deleted, then keep on....since your life is a waste, anyway.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 6:35AM
jamal Abraham
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little,
Mohamed(as) has taught the Muslim that when one calls a person a Munafiq(englishTranslliteratio)--hypocrite(englishTranslation)----either the caller or the one called is a Munafiq----and since you called a deadMan a Munafiq---you can only be described as a 'sickPuppy'.
Saturday, March 27th 2010 at 12:31PM
robert powell
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robert.. thanks for acknowledging Wallace as a "dead man". It makes me happy that this hypocrite is dead and gone forever.
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 2:23PM
jamal Abraham
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What a shame that you would regard Elijah son this way.
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 3:42PM
Harry Watley
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Harry,
You don't know what the hell you are talking about, or if what you are saying about the Nation is true, because you were never been a member of the NOI before. I am nearing 30 years old and have been in the NOI since birth, and my parents converted to Islam a year after the Messenger passed (in 1976). And I can honestly say that half of what you write about the NOI is what you got from what you someone else (who is obviously not an NOI member) but is always telling you what is going on in the NOI.
How is what Wallace did by turning us against his father RIGHT? How is it JUSTIFIED? Wallace, just like YOU, is an OTHER THAN TRUTH teller. Wallace said some things in his lectures that I know to be other than the truth because of what was taught to me by his father, the Messenger of Allah.
If Elijah Muhammad is not the Messenger of Allah, where is Allah and the system set up to bring the Blackman to his rightful place? Do you have it or know where one may find it?
Man it would be good if you put your stupidity aside and be about being yourself. If you really are one of the anointed ones Harry, then it would be wonderful to experience you being that. Stop acting like a punk and be a MAN dammit!
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 5:46PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Hello Siebra,
You asked this question, “If Elijah Muhammad is not the Messenger of Allah, where is Allah and the system set up to bring the Blackman to his rightful place? Do you have it or know where one may find it?”
I will answer this question in an e-mail to you. I am afraid that Jamal will delete my comment as he always does.
Okay,
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 9:57PM
Harry Watley
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siebra,
elijah muhammad died in 1975----35 years ago
1975-1979-farrakhan was a member of the World Community of AlIslaam.
You are 30(1980) you Were NOT born in the nation of islam!!!!!!---fact
You have NO idea, and you cannot count----or read---or discuss a subject that you have a problem of understanding, that The Family of Elijah Muhammad logically understands better than you or Your Friend little sickPuppy, fighter with the dead.
Monday, March 29th 2010 at 11:50AM
robert powell
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Harry, I only delete your comments or stupid roberts if they are purely derogatory as oppose to information that bears any merit to the blog. Our lives are personal until we get on the national or world theatre by being a leader of humanity. Messenger Elijah Muhammad was a leader of humanity and so his life was open to the public. Same for his family. By Wallace attempting to trump the works of his father, it made his failed efforts public. As a born muslim and student at the very first University of Islam in America, I have an authority granted by my birth to speak about any and all muslims in this country. The Holy Quran speaks harsh of hypocrites and must less a double hypocrite. Allah punishes these type individuals with the worst of chastisements. So my words are minimal compared to the chastisement that Wallace received during the final years of his life. Wallace was born in royalty and died a pitiful dumb fool.
Monday, March 29th 2010 at 12:17PM
jamal Abraham
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AlQur'aan Kareem does NOT say what you Lie about above.
Elijah Muhammad, if he said that fard had anything to do with, by and for being a supreme being or divine---was the same as J. Edgar Hoover saying this, by AlQur'aan.
If W.D. Muhammad then said that His father was of no more value to Allaah than J. Edgar Hoover?----W.D. IS CORRECT----
But, the Truth is that before he made Haj before 1950,
Elijah Muhammed made Shahaddah and Elijah realized that he was just not educated enough and not youthful enough to do what He directed HIS son, W.D.; his other sons and daughter, family and those that wanted to become believers and follow AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as).
The older, dead followers of paganNegroChristianity that laid claim to a title, Nation of Islam, were too corrupt, ignorant and theives.......
Elijah was not well enough or strong enough to stop those that claimed leadership before W.D. Muhammad. So in 1975 he did leave to Allaahs judgement his works and belief. His son W.D. Muhammad also has left our world for the judgement of Allaah, AlKhalq.
As for you and other deceivers, learn something and shut up.
Monday, March 29th 2010 at 2:25PM
robert powell
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Robert, if it is true that you are from The Family of Elijah Muhammad and you logically understand Islam better than Jamal and I can then where is (are) your mosque(s)? Where is your website/online study group dedicated to teaching people about truth and civilization?
My family in New Orleans has two www.NOINewOrleans.com and www.myspace.com/noineworleans that has been online for 3 years and counting.
I got a sister's group that's syndicated here and on 15 other social networks, where's yours?
Just like the average so-called man, always ready to talk down to a woman and tell her what to do. You need to put the Quran down and the Messenger's literature down too cause you don't know what you're doing with that either.
I wouldn't be surprised if you and Harry are the type of men who beats his woman and loves her barefoot and pregnant.
You both are just like the quote from English lesson C-1, you like the devil because he gives you nothing. You both need to sit you all's asses down somewhere.
Monday, March 29th 2010 at 3:28PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Firstly, In AlIslaam, the Believer realizes that their is Scholarship of AIQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) for 1500 years---completed by Many Men and Women that gave their lives to the Duties Allaah asked the Believer. The Believer does not look to any Man/Woman to deliver something that has been completed by Mohamed(as) nearly 1500 years ago.
but I have always stated on BIA that you are an unlearned woman,
I have with the Mercy of Allaah given a Translation of AlQur'aan and Dawah to every USA President since Nixon, and countless Senators, reps, and uncounting entertainers, businesspeople, --- many--- Allaah gives us all the choice of submission or whatever the individual chooses. Each is accountable to Allaah as directed in AlQur'aan.
I have told you many times that I have been rewarded with the opening of 20+ places-Masajid, in 5 states for the The Salat--- and the SalatulJummaah.
I have been rewarded with the building of 8 schools of higher learning for 1000s of Muslim Children.
For the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) is a reward to the Believer.
but back to your lying, you are 30--elijah killed the noi in 1950-officially he died himself in 1975
-malcolm was just not able to do what Our Father Elijah needed so W.D. Muhammad(may Allaah reward his servants with paradise)
how could you have been born in noi? it did not exist when you were born.
math is bad for you? or is it truth, that is hard for you?
little is worse than you with Noi Nonsense and Foolishness----
He thinks he should take over for farrakhanMadoff and he denigrates deceased Believing men?---
both of you negros MALE AND FEMALE need to learn something.
Monday, March 29th 2010 at 9:18PM
robert powell
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Robert, what you speak is not true. Sis Siebra is very intelligent and educated. But, your so-called intelligence is to put down intelligent black women who obviously love Islam. It is reasons like what you do...that Allah saw fit to raise up a warner as messenger Elijah Muhammad. His job was not to raise up his son or his brother. No....but to teach the so-called American Negro a thorough knowledge of himself and provide the choice to the war of armegeddon. He done that. No you babble about the 1000s of children that you have taught.....what are the fruits that the world can see. Messenger Elijah Muhammad open Temples and Universities and restaurants and bakeries for the world to see. If all man was to do for Allah, the One God, is recite the Quran and fridays Jummah Prayer we would be as backwards as the country of Haiti. There is more to life than recite the Quran. There are schools that lead to advanced civilization of which I see of the American Christian.
Monday, March 29th 2010 at 10:14PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
You will probably delete this comment!
You said this, “Harry, I only delete your comments or stupid roberts if they are purely derogatory as oppose to information that bears any merit to the blog. …… I have an authority granted by my birth to speak about any and all muslims in this country. The Holy Quran speaks harsh of hypocrites and must less a double hypocrite.”
You have the mind of an Islamic religious fanatic. A religious fanatic is without reasoning. Those terrorists Islamic fanatics also believe they have the authority somehow granted to them to interpret the Quran as they see fit and kill people. Likewise, you take it upon yourself to determine someone else’s thoughts as derogatory, stupid or has no merits to delete their comments without showing that the comments were derogatory, stupid or otherwise as an intelligent person would do.
I believe that I am intelligent and I show why a person is wrong as I am doing now with you. In addition, I do not delete anyone comments on my blog. I am far from being a common fanatic and an idiot since religious fanatics are dangerous people. What you do not have is reasoning which is the balance to fanaticism. So, without reasoning and intelligence you would naturally fall into the realm of a fanatic.
For instance, because the Holy Quran speaks harshly of hypocrites how does that set you on fire to degrade W. D. Muhammad and possibly kill him if we were not living in white America’s country of law and order.
The bottom line is that out of your fanaticism you delete what you cannot intelligently overcome and give the excuse that deleted the comment because it was derogatory or stupid. I believe that you have fallen off the cliff more so than Robert and Siebra.
As Black America’s first genuine prophet, I have a very steep hill to climb and could only climb this steep hill, if you will with the help of God who anointed me, am I right.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 7:19AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Siebra,
Apparently, something must be wrong with Jamal, Robert and you since all three of you embrace Prophet Mohammed, Al Islam and Al Quran but seems to be as far away from each other as East is to West, am I right. You all are constantly fighting and arguing over the same Al Islam that somehow cannot cement you all together.
Now what I know that is the cause of this is that all three of you are not Arabian people. Therefore, you are trying to fit yourselves into a thing that does not belong to either of you. Black Americans would never be successful in someone else’s thing. In other words, Black Americans would never be successful in Islam, Christianity or any other religion except our own religion given to us by God through our genuine prophet. That was the way all people received their religion, and my right. For instance, the Quran tells the Arabian people that, “this day have Allah perfected for you your religion Al Islam”, am I right. That day Black Americans were not in existence, am I right. No people’s religion is is the same since we all are different people that makes up humanity. Our time has come today the same as when the time of the Children of Israel had come in the days of Moses. Does that make any sense to you?
The bottom line is that all of you must leave Islam and embrace your own prophet and our own religion, “The Salvation of God For the Sovereignty of Black Americans Who Are descendents of slaves” when put into one word it means, “LIFE” since we are presently a mentally dead people. I am Black American’s first genuine prophet.
Everything that I have ever said you know it is true because it matches up with everything that God did when visited other people as the Children of Israel and the Arabian people that we are very familiar with, am I right.
I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 7:47AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Robert,
Robert, beginning with Elijah Muhammad introducing Islam to Black Americans was wrong, but he did not know that he was keeping Black Americans as mentally dead as Christianity has since it was introduced to our ancestors in the days of slavery as a way to worship God the Creator.
White America did not mind Black Americans accepting any religion. White America knows that we could never be free worshiping God through other people’s religion. When our own religion comes to us is when White America will be alarmed. Am I making any sense with you?
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 7:53AM
Harry Watley
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1930 Elijah was the most wicked man ever known to slaveAmericans, he told them they were dead, he told them get out of the Americanprision physically and mentally, he told them that negroAmericans did not even know WHAT they were-man or animal. And at that time he was correct!
So we fished for Dead in American segregated communities, we sold papers to the rich, famous, 'successful' Dead, we converted to elijah, the strong, wealthy, 'educated' Dead, we took the Dead away from their God--jesus.
We went into sturctured prisions and got the Dead off of the behinds of their buddies.
now by 1945 though Elijah had been able to read and study AlQur'aan and He worked for his own salvation from his evil deeds and he tried stopping the Dead from of the NOI from Idolizing him.
and He looked for Believers, he found them in Egypt, The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Syria, Senegal, and he Made his Family learn the 1500 year Scholarship of AlIslaam and study Alqur'aan----One of many was his Son, W.D. Muhammad and when Allaah took him in 1975 I know that Allaah judges His created at His Mercy.
you little have not submitted to AlQur'aan and to have 35 years since Elijahs death, and you not even study and learn shows your demonic quality.
learn something! "stop your foolishness"-----
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 9:21AM
robert powell
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Hello Robert,
You still have not understood anything that I have been saying for months now.
Robert, a people such as Black Americans could only come to life through having our own prophet, religious book and religion. God brought the Arabian people to life out of paganism by first giving them Prophet Mohammed, Al Islam and Al Quran, am I right. Consequentially, Black Americans who are not Arabian people could never come to life through Islam, Prophet Mohammed and Al Quran. God is doing for Black Americans the same as God did for the Arabian people, e.g. give us our own prophet, our own religion and our own religious book in due time.
Elijah died two deaths. Elijah was mentally dead while he was alive and then died a physical death. W. D. Muhammad experienced the same. You, Jamal, Siebra and Mr. Farrakhan are still alive, but mentally dead since all of you are buried in Al Islam, which is a religion that God perfected specifically for the Arabian people. Am I making any sense with you?
I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. Therefore, God have made good with us Black Americans by giving us a prophet, Prophet Harry. I told you that God has already intervened in our affairs. Secondly, I have presented our religion that God have perfected for us, which is, “The Salvation of God for the Sovereignty of Black Americans Who Are descendents of slaves” which means, “LIFE”. In other words, the name of our religion is, “LIFE” befits us because we are a mentally dead people waiting to be risen to life, am I right.
I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way, that Black Americans could ever become real people in this world. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet.
God is with me. God constantly inspires and guides me. Now, you tell me if all of what I said is irrational.
The bottom line of what I am saying is that we must have our own and Islam does not belong to us. Islam is not a religion that we will practice in our country of sovereignty. We will practice the religion of LIFE in our own sovereign country.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 4:35PM
Harry Watley
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The Teachings of Islam into America came by way of Noble Drew Ali from his trip to Morocco, Africa and Elijah Muhammad by his involvement with Master Fard Muhammad. Thats it. These were the ones that brought Islam to America. This country is a English speaking country. The rulership is english speaking. The people with the most power is English speaking. If the Holy Quran is to deal with America..it must deal with her in English. She has the mighteous arsenal of weaponry than any other nation. So according to the Quran, if America is to be judged...she must be judged with an english speaking warner or prophet. Or...you Quran is incorrect in its writings and can be thrown into the trash.
Islam came in English to Noble Drew Ali who later adopted the Moorish Temple movement. I give them credit, he did make an effort to clean up Black Americans and he did make the teaching of Islam known to a small degree.
When Islam came by way of Master Fard Muhammad and then Elijah Muhammad, it inspired Black Americans like no other ideology. For instance, just to hear Malcolm was fantastic....this once 2-bit hustler and drug dealer had something to say with the teachings of Elijah Muhammad (this so-called 3rd grader ), and became one of the greatest orators, that America has ever seen. And Muhammad Ali, look at him...this man almost worshipped Elijah...He became a minister and spokesman....Elijah Muhammad no matter what anybody says...impacted black Americans like no other black person in the history of blacks being in the United States. Messenger Elijah Muhammad spread the wealth around Muslims. I made money selling Muhammad Speaks, personally. It was good business. He gave black people jobs and provided black people with definition. Fie on your family quabble, robert...to be objective eye....Elijah Muhammad proved himself to be a leader of men and women....He started schools, conducted classes for men and boys; women and girls....programmed a non military "Fruit of Islam". And if anyone wanted to take us for granted, would double dare. The FOI out of Detroit, Michigan....which I was personally a part.....we were the badest we felt in the nation. And your own relative Roscoe was head chief. So forget our family quabble....Black Americans deserve the right to judge between man based on "deeds". And Elijah Muhammad's deeds speak to his greatness and Wallace deeds speak to his "hypocracy".
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 5:57PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello to All,
I could see that it is going to take some time before any of you could understand simple basic logic. Let me explain what I am saying even though I have been saying the same thing repeatedly.
Black Americans could never become a people of our own using and embracing Prophet Mohammed, Al Islam and Al Quran since we are not Arabian people. You all are so simpleminded that it does not register in your mind that when you embrace other people’s things inadvertently you are following those people’s ways, customs and rituals. Naturally, that would make Black Americans followers, am I right. The point that I am trying to get across to you all is that Black Americans will no longer be followers of others since God has given us our own. As God gave these other people that we follow their own religion, God has given us our religion of, LIFE. Does this make any sense to any of you all? Why do you all want to be followers? Are you all and not tired of being followers? Followers could never be leaders, am I right.
If Moses did not come for his people, the Children of Israel would still be following the Egyptian people today, if you will. Am I making any sense to you? So, when are we going to stop following other people?
Yes, indeed we are so mentally dead that we do not want to have our own we would rather be satisfied having what belongs to the Arabian people.
Incidentally, today I was talking to three ordained Christian pastors with their own churches. I presented this same point that Black Americans would never be successful and a people of our own following Christianity.
The Black Christians follows the European Christian religion as the Black Muslims follows the Arabian people Islamic religion. Black Americans are mentally dead people.
Jamal, you argue the point that Mr. Noble Drew Ali and Mr. Master Fard Muhammad brought Islam to America and turned it over to Black Americans. My point is that it does not matter who brought Islam to America and suppressed Black Americans with this religion. My point is that Islam is not the religion of Black Americans. In other words, you should have enough basic intelligence to say to yourself that since God gave Prophet Mohammed Islam for his people then God could also give Black Americans a prophet and our own religion. Why is this simple logic so difficult for you all to understand?
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 7:57PM
Harry Watley
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