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Dear Irma:
Not if the polls keep trending toward a more accepting view of the health care law.
A friend of mine, who is a staunch conservative--more of the thoughtful, rlibertarian kind and not one of those rabid crazies--shocked me the other day by admitting how much he admired President Obama (who he did not vote for) for his reasonable and measured approach to passing the bill. He said he admired the President for standing upf or his principles even when the tide turned against him.
I think a lot of Republicans are going to resign themsevles to this and take a more positive view of our President. HOpefully.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 9:14AM
Richard Kigel
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Well this coming election will be very interesting. Personally, I think the elephants will gain and the donkeys lose, coming out of this action. I am not saying that is the way it should be, only what I think it will be. Personally, I am going to be taking a hard look at the libertarian party. I cannot stand this situation of having to choose between elephant or donkey. Neither of these mainstream parties is doing what is necessary for Healthy Country Reform.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 11:49AM
Steve Williams
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Irma, I am only making a political analysis that this will backfire on the Democrats. Simply a prediction. I myself support neither the Democrats, nor the Republican. I will vote for neither, to my mind they are one and the same when it comes to the health of this country. The only one of either party I would vote for is Ron Paul.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 2:20PM
Steve Williams
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Clark, I only intend to look at the Libertarian platform, along with others. I believe in constitutional government. I don't believe the individual mandate is constitutional. I don't believe the constitution is a "living" document. I believe it is the law of the land and easily understood, and there is a legal way to change it, established by the authors of it. I believe it would be constitutional for the government to impose a tax to fund health care for the "public good" and would support that. I do believe that the two party system is the greatest detriment to this country's welfare, and it is kept in place by the detrimental ballot access laws. The Democrats have placed a HUGE burden on my children and grandchildren, through the issuance of valueless currency to support the level of spending we now have. It is a house of cards, I will be dead when it falls, but my progeny will be alive to suffer the consequences. I will not vote fo any Republican or Democrat, save Ron Paul.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 2:30PM
Steve Williams
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Brother Cow, I didn't know you had posted a video similar to mine on the Boehner sitaution. It amazes me how you and I both think alike!!!
Don't Republicans remind you of a 5 year old who didn't get their way?
1. John Boehner throwing a fit in the House of Representatives;
2. John McCain taking his ball and going home (metaphorically);
3. Eric Cantor passing the blame;
4. Michelle Bachmann acting like a schoolyard bully with her threats;
Would they be in a better mood if we made them take a nap and gave them a cookie and a carton of chocolate milk?
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 2:37PM
Siebra Muhammad
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And I will add in fairness, the Republicans as well have placed this HUGE burden on my progeny, the the issuance of valueless currency to support a war mongering State. I hate all of them. I hate the Democrats, I hate the Republicans, and I hate the American People that buy into this LIE.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 2:38PM
Steve Williams
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But please, I love my family here, I am speaking of an abstraction when I say the American People.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 2:40PM
Steve Williams
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Irma, yes, the power lies with the average citizen, but the average citizen has abdicated the throne.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 4:26PM
Steve Williams
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Now the only reason I did not vote for Ron Paul the first time around was 1) I was not a registered Republican to vote in the Primary, and 2) for the election itself, he told me not to. He had rather been a Representative than a lost cause. We will see next time, he will be 78 right, but I think in better health than me at 54.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 4:33PM
Steve Williams
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Hey Siebra:
Yeah, I know! This is like the twelfth time we both posted the same thing.
It just goes to show: great minds think alike!!!
Ya think I have some Nawlins blood in me somewhere?
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 5:32PM
Richard Kigel
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Irma:
You probably saw this on Countdown this evening. SArah Palin said: "WE are not the party of no! WE are the party of HELL NO!"
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 8:24PM
Richard Kigel
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Clark, I wonder, do we have a chance at real Campaign Contribution Reform? I know it is not a new idea, but it seems whatever "reform" has been done in the past (and I can't remember the specifics but you probably do), it has not had the needed result.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 8:44PM
Steve Williams
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Oh, and another one they will not cut their own throats for, Ballot Access Reform.
Friday, March 26th 2010 at 8:47PM
Steve Williams
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Clark, of course it was that Supreme Court decision I was trying to remember. I don't know where my mind is sometimes, it was not that long ago after all. You have presented an excellent analysis once again, and in this case I think the founders could not have anticipated a Corporate America as we now have, and so we do not have guidance from the Constitution in this case, just our good common sense, which seems to have fled us. But I am going to read my Constitution, just in case there is something there on this issue.
And Irma, after we have read our Constitution, I think it's an excellent idea for us to read this new bill, and I will gladly take part, I will go and find the final signed version on the web. But I suspect the Health Care Bill will be much more of a challenge to understand than the Constitution.
Saturday, March 27th 2010 at 8:55AM
Steve Williams
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Clark,
As 14 states are suing over the health care bill, it could be argued that they are really suing over the lobby influence that led to the bill. So maybe, if this many states object to what is going on, what is needed is a campaign for an amendment to the Constitution that would abolish this now legal bribery of our Congress. And that I believe would trump the Supreme Court decision, would it not?
Saturday, March 27th 2010 at 9:09AM
Steve Williams
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And Clark, two very important issues that we need to keep our eyes on, crucial to the power of We the People, are Net Neutrality and the National Broadband Plan. I must confess that I am behind in my own research and keeping up-to date on the issues.
Saturday, March 27th 2010 at 9:59AM
Steve Williams
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Hello,
I noticed that some of you give credence to parties other than a two party system.
There should never be more parties than the two party system of government White America presently have and this here is why.
A two party system provides perfect balance. We see this perfect balance in creation as in East and West, up and down, black and white, good and evil, am I right. Any thing other than a two party system would create chaos. Is that a rational thought?
In other words, once a third-party system is accepted then you must be aware of a fourth, fifth, sixth and the amount of parties could never end, am I right.
The obligation of any group of people having different views that neither the two-party system embraces is to breathe into one of the parties closest to their views their ideas instead of corrupting the balance of the two-party system, am I right.
I believe that the way all of you presently rationalizes adds to the present chaos of things, am I right.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, March 27th 2010 at 10:42AM
Harry Watley
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Brother Harry,
Many countries have more than 2 parties. Some (I am going from memory now, so don't hold me to it if I'm wrong) are England, France, and Israel. And at one time tere was only one party in the U.S. See the link I posted in my blog on the Health Care Bill failure:
http://indopedia.org/United_States_Democra...
The two party system is a perfect balance only in the sense that they are bedfellows and act in concert.
Saturday, March 27th 2010 at 10:58AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
You said this, “The two party system is a perfect balance only in the sense that they are bedfellows and act in concert.”
What do you mean when you say’ bedfellows’ acting in concert?
Okay.
Saturday, March 27th 2010 at 3:04PM
Harry Watley
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Hey Clark:
You know, your observation and analysis merits wider attention than just a response on somebody's blog.
I would love to see your thoughts featured on a blog of your own. That way people can focus their response on what you are saying--and maybe some of what you are saying will sink in. You are as informed and knoweldgeable as any professional political science professor. And your writing style is fluiid and easy for us laymen to understand.
Why not share your excellent knowledge and insight with more folks? Have you ever thought about it?
Saturday, March 27th 2010 at 3:25PM
Richard Kigel
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ClarK;
By the way--in case you think I was telling you to buzz off "my" blog" and get one of your own--that is not at all what I mean.
You have so much valuable insight to offer I welcome your comments anytime.
I was just trying to make the point that I think your observations are so well thought out, so infomred and full of common sense wisdom, I would love to see you share it with more people.
I think you are terrific!!!!
Saturday, March 27th 2010 at 3:28PM
Richard Kigel
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Hello,
Clark said that the Democrats are the party of the people. Well, so is the Republican the party of the people, am I right.
When I read, Mr. Clark’s post there is no doubt he is partial to the Democrats and therefore a straight and an intelligent answer could not come from Mr. Clark, am I right.
So, what is the fundamental difference between the Democratic way of thinking and the Republicans way of thinking, does anyone know as much politics as you all discuss?
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, March 27th 2010 at 3:41PM
Harry Watley
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Brother Harry,
What I meant by bedfellows, well that would be like two lovers. They love each other more than the people they profess to represent and act together in their own interests, just as you would expect from lovers. Whom do you suppose Moses loved more, Zipporah or Israel?
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 12:09AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Clark,
Specifically, I think that you have mis-understood me. My accusing you of being partial came from how you expressed your favorable feelings towards the Democrats and not from the phrase, “the party of the people”.
I believe that a government that has the responsibility to protect and defend its citizens from foreign attacks. Likewise, inherent in the responsibility to protect and defend is also have the responsibility of providing all the necessary, essential basic services to its citizens. Does that make sense to you or am I a weirdo?
Anyway, let me ask you this hypothetical question. January 1, 2011 Black Americans will come into possession of a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. What sort of government would you be in favor of Black Americans having?
In other words, based on the problems incurred by all previous governments, e.g. parliamentary, Democratic, dictatorial, communistic, King, monarchy etc. what sort of government would be better or superior to those I just mentioned?
What say you?
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 1:02AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Steve,
Firstly, the Republicans and Democrats are adverse as Romeo is to Casanova to win the heart of Juliet, am I right. Consequentially, your idea of Republicans and Democrats being bedfellows is absolutely absurd and without sense.
FYI, Steve, I was wrong about Moses lived for 140 years. He lived for 120 years. Nevertheless, my point was that the Children of Israel was and was not ready to leave Egypt when Moses was anointed. That he spent time raising their awareness that their only permanent solution they had was to leave Egypt and God was with them to do so.
Now, you asked this question, “Whom do you suppose Moses loved more, Zipporah or Israel?”
Moses loved Israel more than his wife and children. Jethro brought Zipporah to Moses in the desert, but she left and went with her father supposedly back home.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 1:24AM
Harry Watley
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Brother Harry,
Moses was already divorced from Zipporah when they came to him in the wilderness. Now you are correct Moses loved Israel more, because before entering Canaan, Moses sent the army against the Midians because of Bael-Peor. When the army came back without having killed all the women, Moses was angry and sent them back to kill all the women who were not virgins. This would have included Zipporah presumably.
So, enough of the bible lessons. The Republicans and Democrats have both spent beyond our means, and the Democrats have aided Corporate America as much as the Republicans. Neither serve the people well. The difference between the two parties is an illusion. Just as in the Super Bowl they are all football players and the World Series they are all baseball players. It does not matter who wins really, it is all just a game to them.
And The People continue to believe they have reason to celebrate when their team wins.
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 1:58AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
Let us be sensible. There must be and there is a fundamental difference between the Democrats and the Republicans’ way of thinking. The two parties are at each other’s throats. Is that not obvious to you? Therefore, how could you say in good faith that the differences between the two parties are an illusion to the people?
Could it be that you are speaking out of frustration and not out of sound reasoning?
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 2:09AM
Harry Watley
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Brother Harry,
There are issues where there are real differences of course, such as abortion. But there are anti-abortion Democrats, and pro-abortion Republicans. Hawks and Doves on both sides, etc. But when it comes to the good of this country, for the most part, we are not properly represented by either side. Now when you say they are at each other's throats, it is more like World Wrestling Entertainment. There are probably some people that still believe that's the real thing.
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 2:37AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
You said this, “There are issues where there are real differences of course,……we are not properly represented by either side. ……it is more like World Wrestling Entertainment.”
Please explain how the American citizens are not properly represented that it would seem to you that Capitol Hill is as entertainment as world wrestling is.
Then what sort of government structure would be ideal other than three party systems?
Now, since you feel this way about White America then could you appreciate the dire conditions of Black Americans why they should inherit a portion of this continent to become a sovereign people that they could govern themselves?
So, could you handle both questions and give your explanation? If not then choose what you could handle, okay.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 8:41AM
Harry Watley
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Brother Harry,
You were correct in your earlier post. Much of what I've said on this blog has been said out of frustration and I will admit to exaggeration. Here's the deal. The economic bust we are now experiencing, which will go down in our children's and grandchildren's history books as The Second Great Depression, was not caused by the government, and cannot be cured by the government. It was a necessary result of the economic boom in the early 90's, which resulted directly from the growth of the Internet. This I know for a fact, because I was one of those who developed the Internet. I was there. Many want to say that Bill Clinton created that economic prosperity. That is a lie. Bill Clinton was simply in the right place at the right time. I lived in California during this period. California had a budget SURPLUS in those years. The depression that we are in now was well under way in 2001. Here is a report from the California State Controller in 2001:
http://www.sco.ca.gov/Files-EO/economic_ec...
The bottom line is that the money we are now printing, to make the politicians look good, has nothing to back it. It is DEBT, and it is being placed on our children and grandchildren. And that is the source of my concern, a concern for all our CHILDREN. Black, white, hispanic, chinese, who the hell cares what COLOR!?
I have much study to do Harry. I need to finish a report on Race to the Top, review the U.S. Constitution, research a Third Party Option, etc. So I will be back to you. You've made a good start on this blog Harry, continue your research, beyond the book of Exodus, and maybe we can come up with some answers.
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 11:37AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
Let me briefly say this, the link that you provided is specifically about California’s economic problems in the early 2000. So, it has nothing to do with the Internet, okay.
Actually, my question was what is the difference between the Republican thinking and the Democratic thinking. I think we all move in a way from my question. It seems to me that you do not know the differences between the two major parties way of thinking and it is all right.
So, go ahead and finish up your studies and research.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 7:47PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Clark,
I understand the common phrase; “party of the people” was not expressing your personal feelings. I said that your personal feelings are expressed in the surrounding words and not specifically in the phrase, “party of the people”.
For instance, much of your rhetoric is bias of Republicans when my question was trying to extract an impartial view of what fundamental difference is there in the way each party thinks. I believe that you are being sidetracked based on your overwhelming desire to blast me. You said that the Republicans represent corporations. Well, suppose there were not any corporations. Would there still be a profound difference in the way Republicans think versus Democrats?
I remember a person saying to me that the Republicans being conservative represent no growth while the Democrats being liberal represent growth. So, I walked away with the understanding of, growth versus no growth.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 8:17PM
Harry Watley
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Brother Harry,
Well what do you think happened before 2000? Like I said Harry, I was there, physically in California, and economically in the stock market. My company's stock gained 3500% from the time we went public in 1994 until somewhere around 2000.
Okay.
Before the downturn in 2000-2001, California had a budget surplus of 6.6 billion. I will not post any more links, to me they are just reminders. To you, you have no knowledge of this and are unwilling to do the research.
Now I have been watching the Republicans and Democrats for 36 years and I know DAMN WELL what they SAY is the difference and what is REALLY no difference.
This DEPRESSION started around 2001. Period.
Okay.
Sunday, March 28th 2010 at 9:58PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
I thought that it was the housing market that primarily caused the economic turn down and not the Internet as you are claiming, am I right.
Tell me what you think.
Monday, March 29th 2010 at 3:36PM
Harry Watley
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Brother Harry,
The housing market was the last to go, correct. By that time the writing was on the wall, because the stock market had already tanked, but people refused to see it. The money went from the stock market to the real estate market, and now it is sitting in the banks. It did not evaporate, it's just not in circulation.
Monday, March 29th 2010 at 5:32PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
Everything revolved around the housing market. The money did it evaporate, if you will since the overseas investors that invested in America’s housing market had to be paid up. I believe that is what the TARRP was all about, am I right.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 3:50PM
Harry Watley
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Brother Harry,
I will stick with my analysis. The dot com bubble popped first, then the real estate bubble. The cycle is greed and fear, and it will repeat itself again, no matter how bleak the picture is now. The politicos will always try to tell you something different, but those who study history know, it is simply greed and fear.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 7:41PM
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so sorry that sound bite was on CNN's John King's program...I channel surf a lot. (smile)
Thanks Rich for this politican's screw ups blog....lol
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Steve and Rich this leads to what I am about to put on my VENTING blog as I am always venting about how our sites are so limited in talking about our children's learning conditions being limited to bad teachers , bad school books and neighborhoods...well listen to what I just saw on CNN's Ricks List program a few minutes ago...is due to we do not hold our ownselves responsible for all of these miseducations so dedicated to this form of brainwashings!!!!!!!!!!....
This is what the school children got to see on their field trip to the State house 0n the floor of the state of Missouri's state's politicians...
A republican politician jelled out something to the state house's politician Jeff Roorda wha speaking int a mike for which roorda's reaction was to start across the room to give a good whipping if others there had not pulled both of them back as they were streaming towards each other...My venting is about I don't have DSL and we seem to only be interested in giving excuses for every thing but truth and reality as to what is really going on in this country that relates to the shape this whole country is in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(I am not smiling)***********************************************^^^########## I-T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Ssteve as you, right now "I" plan to vote "AGAIN (smile) for ron Paul as taht is the only way my conscious will direct me...but this is my country and as "I" like president Obama believes taht the average citizen of this country is the only real and true government, "I" must do every thing "I" can to protect it...and, the best way, "I" believe to protect it is to be educated by all sides political parties, bills and local laws...these I see and MANDATES, because man them selves by nature is out to be the most fittest one to survive, this encludes our gene pool better know as RACE FAMILY...me I always enclude mother nature or the planet earth as a part of this protection... UNITY, PEACE, ECT.(smile)
but, above all proper and honest and open and realistic EDUCATION. lov ya ALL..
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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PALIN IS NOW ON ALL STATIONS IN HER SPEECH FOR MCCAIN...hope this gets put into a video on our sites. loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Please pay colse attention how the hocky mom is now dressed in BLACK LEATHER. these are people who are the gifts taht keeps on giving in favor of the anything but REPUBLICANS IS NONVIOLENT...
great for the myth about African-Americans. huh or "YO"??????? loooooooooooooooooooooool(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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theresa, if you remark about IDOLS was directed at my being a N.D. buddhist, "I" will repeat once more, "I have not had a religious idol or figureine in my home since I left teh Catholic church after learning ti was the use of the Pope's Christian bkble taht deemed Africans to be nonhuman therefore we must be put into slavery so taht we could work our selves to death to get into heaven...
but, thank you for saying we all have unlimited powers to be the best person one can be with our being dependant on any man, woman or thing to know we have worth as well as free will..or is this what you are not saying and it is all GOD's will which is restricted your need to be the decider of which is the right/ wrong GOD?!?
You know like Siebra says Allah and my child say Jehovah, ect (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Hey, Harry a light bulb just went off in my head and it concerns you latest blog about how you were just kicked out of a Christain church and how the Mosque says that you will be ignored if you come back there....try to see your self as the Republican party and those who refuse to follow you as the Democrats...O.K.?????Prophet Harry....
Republicans have only the same old same old talking points that has worked in the past but has gotten them put out as the majority political party in the present time because their message did not fit the social norms /realitys of today's world...They can only talk about when R. Regan was president and how successfully he led this nation...against the ENEMY. lol
The Democrats are now in the majority, because they CHANGED their talking points to fit today's social interest and security and happiness...
What say you Harry about only the strongest will survive...and survival is always dependant on the ability to CHANGE with the environment in which one lives?????!!!!!!(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Harry for a while in you last comment I was begining to believe that you were going to let this blog get back to the real world...but, as usual respect for others in not in your make up now is it, prophet...????!!!!!!!!...what say you about your need to try and convince "YOUR OWN SLEF" prophet Harry that he is as he never stop saying how the prophet Harry is dealing with non intellegent beings and be able to let it go...PEOPLES WHO HAVE NO ABILITY TO RISE ABOVE COMPLAINING AND WHINING ABOUT EVERY THING...SAY HOW THEY KEEP WHINING AND COMPALINING HOW THEY NEED A NATION OF THEIR OWN WITH YOU AS THE LEADER WHO IS GOING TO CREAT THEM A BIBLE, ect.(smile)...O-N-E D-A-Y, S-O-M-E P-L-A-C-E I-N A-M-E-R-I-C-A__________________...
better knowN on these sites and in places that already have things of their own that they have been "INSPIRED BY G-O-D TO "W-A-N-T" TO : BUILD, WORK, LIVE AND BE PROUD OF THIS., AND THIS IS THE REASON YOU HAVE NO WAY TO DO YOUR OWN SELF LIKE THESE PEOPLES WHAT G-O-D HAS INSPIRED YOU TO (WANT ?!?) TO DO...LOOOOOOOOOOOOO..OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL (SMILE)
tELL ME WHAT YOU THINK PROPHET hARRY facts of how and why you must lead us away from our way that has already worked for all it seem but you for something you can not do for your own self.....You see you seem to be the only looking for a homeland which you have no idea where it is and you can not find it or creat it or do any thing without help from people who refuses to give up every thing for your nothing. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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..oh, to break down my definition of "PRAYER" are things like : want, need, hope, wish, dreams, goals, promises, lying, truth, tomorrow wellness, positive, negatives ect.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Theresa believeing that one has the right /duty to live someone else's life is not only arrogant it is unfair as it violates their God given, man given and natural born with (individual) rights. (smile)
This is where "I" am coming from as "I" am the only one who knows what "I" need, want and what makes me happy, safe, satisfied and secure...And, if you knotice "I" always speak in teh "I" and in the present time also...Prayer is a part of all mankinds life styles and it is teh need to regulate and define ones prayers and gods as good or bad for someone off of someone elses bias and bigotery and limitations to be educated from all points of view is the problems...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Actually "I" don't know if this is a statement about the screw ups of the GOP or a VENT..at any time now our president will be giving a speech from Afganastian and it seems as if as soon as the people of following the same talking points latest "talking point' is putting down our president for going there to ask the president of this country to try and stem- stop so much corruption in his country..........is this something about not wasting the American tax payers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and due to brainwashing so many American citizens have no way to understand any of this ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Theresa, you have just got to get over trying to believe that all people pray for the same things as you do or that only those who pray for the same things as you will be the only ones to have their prayers answered...
Steve unless this country wants violence and only the P-U-R-E White Americans in congress I doubt if you really mean what you just said, because even you will be excluded and you are White, but you do not want this country to return to White Only, black Only now do you?????
NO Steve I am not trying to get you to change your mind. I only say this to ask if you have heard any of the campaigning amonge the Republicans and Republicans and the Teaparty and teh Birthers trying to get to be the Republican who will be winning their state's primary thats all. because this behavior among the Republicans is being dubed "eating their own"
and, Rich have you heard a little while ago Joe the plumber saying how McCain had ruined his life and now he will be campaign for McCain to day...and the conservative GOP has never liked how Mccain would not obey Bush lock stock an barrel on the torture issue...My biggest unexpected change in this is how the republicans are now turning against the fox network news as they now believe taht this network is calling all of the shots...
I believe that Gleen Beck has the GOP running especially after he said these former civil rights heros last sat were trying to get themselves shot...one can not say something like this while their group is being called violent and ccalling for people to be harmed...OH WELL a samll mine must only go on their same old talking points...they kind of remind me of prophet Harry. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Rich, don't worry clark is going to one way or the other come to realize just how desperate we are for him to do government explinations blogs for us.(smile)
There is one thing we seem to be over looking and this is how people like romney and that lady running in Ca. can finance theri own campaigns all by themselves...that Carley f. who got so much money for running ehr company into the ground even she can run her own campaign out here against Nancy Pelosi...thi sis if Dheene does not step in and start taking about the cost and the lives lost in all of these yerrs of war...
We do need some ones in these races to force all of them off their scripted taling points which is all any of them are doing so far and will continue to do so...Actually I like what Palin did today which as usual she left people ringing their heads...that mess of a speech she did today I can tell just by the peoples she was speeking before were not empressed....
these people's energy and actual intrest in Palin today (as I sensed it) had about as much interest and excitment in her as she did in them...MONEY CAN'T BUY HAPPINESS as was shown today as I watched or forced myself to watch all of palin's speech...
I was just so embarrassed in watching this woman today, I actually felt som paings of guilt for watching her fall so hard on her face...there is no way even as dumb and empty headed as she seem to be that even she know she was a flop today...(smile)
AND, THIS IS GOING TO GO ON UNTIL ALMOST 8 MORE MONTHS...don't forget the war in Iraq will end before then...oh, and the unemployment check will maybe run out while they are on vacation...when will the GOP try to understand taht republicans are also out of jobs and are poor...I JUST CAN NOT BELIEVE THE GOP'S AMOUNT OF BRAINWASHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(smile)
I JUST CAN NOT...
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Ooops, just saw something on MSNBC that I did not see during the Palin speaking for McCain today...they showed a sound bite McCain studing his speeches notes while she was speaking...no notes in the palm of the hand, but on 3 by 4 cards...again the GOP is the gifts that keeps on giving and giving and giving.....(smile)
HOw can one top that black leather jacket on the hocky mom and McCains crib notes. looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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mY BROTHER sTEVE, i AM ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND MOST LIKELY WILL REMAIN A REGRISTERED DEMOCRAT...IT WAS MY VOTE AND AS I DID THEN AND STILL DO BELIEVE THE PAUL PUT PRINCIPLE OVER BEING PRESIDENT, I JUST WROTE HIS NAME IN AND IF I DON'T CHANGE AGAINST HIS AS BEING THE SAME opened minded PERSON, I WILL DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN. (smile)
You see my brother, at the rate these politicans are still doing what comes naturally, iIget more proud of my choice of my vote more and more each and every day. loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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That's alright Theresa, disrespect like any thing else (at least to me) is still disrespect...but this is why I take everyone as an individual and not a lobel or a group and this responsibility is on me and me alone..."I" never find any excuse not to treat others as "I" want to be treated...and my goal in life it to learn and to try my best to TEACH / show theRE is always another version of any story. ..
Saves so much time and energy and bad feelings and always lead to an open dialogue...this in turn always leads to peace minus war. THIS IS TEH MISSION STATEMENT OF THIS SITE. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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..so sorry about that Harry...my saying a American, because when Clark helped me, he helped my whole family...so saying Black Americans is more the right thing to say. (smile)
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Poor Prophet, he is still seeking advice on what god had already inspired him to do...no wonder he is still wandering out there in the siderness of the White man...like the words nation, religion, religious, black Americans ahve already been created by the people with white skin...don't forget the Jews are not considered as Black, Harry so how is Clark going to be able to help you as he used teh white man's books to kearn his language and he sure is not seeking GOD he is already living proof of the words of God is a great thing for America and black Americans...again Clark can talk about things he has done and I can talk about some of the things he ahs done already to help Black America as I am a black American. (smile)
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HEY GUYS WE ARE ALL TOGETHER HERE ON THIS ONE BLOG HOW MANYI OF US WOULD LIKE TO GET ALL OF US SAY SPEND ONE DAY DTUDYING THIS HEALTH CARE BILL OUR OWN SELF...ANDYONE KNOW IF WE CAN MANB ACCOMPLISH THIS AND IF SO HOW..SO CAN GET ASSIGNED CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE BILL....
ANY WAY DOES ANY ON WANT US TO GIVE IT A TRY????
cLARK AND RICH AND MOZELL AND WHO ELSE KNOWS HOW OUR GOVERNMENT WORKS...HOW TO READ A BILL? DOES ANY ONE WANT TO GIVE IT A SHOT?????
I IRMA DOES IT SOUNDS VER Y INTERESTING...gOOD NIGHT i WILL HAVE A BUSY DAY TOMORROW. i WILL BE GOING TO A bUDDHIST MEETING FOR ABOUT 4 HOURS AFTER 12 PM....NOW MY EYES ARE CLOSING...NITE (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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HI Rich, do you have any idea if the GOP can last until next summer with the same talking points??????
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steve trying to get some truths and realitys to Harry is like trying to fight the governor from making the disabled in this state to not become homeless beacus he continues to take their moneys put therefore them by the tavpayers for them not to become homeless or die of hunger or lack of medial care...as medial is almost nonexistance in this state or money to keep our schools open...and, why is this..well it is because the voices of the politicians wh caused this is much louder in blaming our president who had nothing to do with our gorernor borrowing from the education funds and not being able to pay it back...
Louder than those law suits against this state for making prisons a killing ground of needless deaths because this state was so busy paying out giant checks to doctors who were not doing any medial care...but they sure did make a lot of giant campaign donations. (I am not smiling, but tiings are going to CHANGE for the better)
There is one blessing that comes with the campaign fever...all of the hidden dirt comes to light and this time all of this country will be listening, because what is being said is about them...I believe that those "I" will do this and I will do that as these things are needed YESTERDAY WHILE THEY WERE IN OFFICE AND GOT THERE SAYING THOSE SAME OLD LIES.(smile)
I do believe that the public is as fed up with what these politicians are GOING TO DO FOR THEM IF JUST GIVEN A CHANCE TO FOLLOW THEM IS ABOUT AS USEFUL IN 2010 AS HARRY'S TALKING POINTS ARE TO US.lol
Thanks prophet Harry as you can continue to remind us all that we want CHANGE and things done right now and not when you figure out how to make our lives better using the Bernie Maddoff scheme and the Enron bookkeeping (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL(SMILE)
Thanks so very, very much Clark...I live for the reply from Harry on this one.looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolbut, I am sure we all have heard it endless times before......................................looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool(smile)
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And, thank you Steve for the Constitution link...now what should we be looking at in it in specific more than any thing else...and steve you also should put up a blog on these parts of teh Constitution that we come up with as the main parts to study...
WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT AND WE SHOULD BE MAKING OUR POLITICIANS TAKE A LOOK AT OUR SITES...I AM SURE TAHT THE DO SPEND TIME LOOKING AT THE BEST KNOW SOCIAL NETWORKING SITES...THEY NEED TO START LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUES ON TEH NET AS WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. (smile)
Have any of us though taht our politicians are in teh same boat as us...they are seeking the besta nd most constructive way to help our country at tis critical time...they have no guide book for what is happening in O-U-R country...this sure is not like the 60s because the White people were not fighting amonge themselves as they are today...the 60s was not about something brand new in America...we must all unite as ONE from the bottom to the top and all in between if we want to win this battle...YES WE CAN...(smile)
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