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Tensions between Black men and women have been challenging to remain positive. Lesbian movement in America has escalated with opportunity noted with black American women. Temptation is there no doubt between women. Protection is lost and placement to the left of God becomes definite. Sure a woman knows key points of pleasure on another women better than a man. But s*x between humans was designed for procreation. God wanted humans to reproduce so gave us a method. It was not designed for pleasure only. So, with man it is pleasure and intent. A woman with another woman is an abomination....more a crime against nature....In Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot warned them of God's anger ..... for their lesbian ways...so the city was destroyed including Lot's wife. This is pointed out because when the father returns...he is made aware. Black men need to become more of aware of this new competition. When a black man engages with courtship with a black woman, he needs to be aware that competition is not just other men...but also women....who like to do certain things.....Black Men must be more compassionate with the Black female as a result. The differance between romantic engagement with a Black Man and another woman must be made clear.... My divine plan for Black Americans call for transitioning 1 million of them to Africa including the countries of Tanzania, Morocco, Egypt and two others. Lesbians will not be welcome for this project. The nation which Black Americans will establish in Africa will be based on divine scripture. Natural laws will prevail in all governmental legislature in the new world that Black Americans will establish. Actions in discordance with natural law leads to a graveful end...so our point will not be to repeat that history which has led to ruin. In exchange for modernization and industrialization of the host African country, black Americans chosen will inherit their own land with their own flag and government. America has now accomodated the Lesbian behavior as normal. From Ellen Degenerat, Queen Latifah and so many others, its a growing unnatural phenomena. And Black Americans must be made aware to defend yourselves against this devilish decadence in behavior. www.trafford.com/06-2972
Posted By: jamal Abraham
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 2:43PM
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Held Jamal,
You said this, “The nation which Black Americans will establish in Africa will be based on divine scripture.”
Black Americans are not Africans. Secondly, what divine Scriptures are you referring to since Black Americans do not have Scriptures yet?
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 4:56PM
Harry Watley
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There is a common denominator to the scripture when it comes to ethical conduct of a righteous nation. In America because of its dominate citizenry, there are the scriptures of Holy Quran, Bible and Torah available. So we start with these books. They all concur that "thou shall not kill; and thou shall not steal; thou shall not bear false witness and so on. Point being is that without getting into the differances of religion...there are enough similarities between the major religions that a model society based on righteous practices can be extracted. On the advise that history is best used to forge way into the future...we study the failures of nations of the past...that thought they would take short cuts or out manuever God....we see that the end of them was destruction.
Our goal in going to Africa is not to suppress African American custom on to the black Africans. But to demonstrate what a righteous nation looks like. What does an advanced black nation with high tech applications through society feels like. A kingdom where black citizens rule the government because they were the legislatures of it. Black Americans would be an asset to the host African nation and in return for the homeland...Black Americans will project for several areas of industrial improvements that will substantially improve the nations GDP(Gross Domestic Product).
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 5:36PM
jamal Abraham
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As-Salaam Alaikum Brother Jamal,
Being a black woman myself (in my late twenties), I can tell you that a lot of females my age have low self esteem. However it's not all black women that are turning lesbian but there is a large number of factors that contribute to them turning lesbian (such as domestic violence, troubled childhood, being molested, etc). I consider myself to be fortunate to have never experiened any of these factors.
Also, being from New Orleans where homos*xuality is alive like Red Beans and Rice, I have see my fair share of women that fit what you wrote. I am saddened to see especially the young girls so masculine, mainly in the so-called hood. But this kind of woman exists in the working class as well. After Hurricane Katrina I lived in Dallas for a year and the apartment management (2 black women) showed no feminity.
I would still say these women's actions are a result of a troubled childhood, you may not agree. But I have worked in the New Orleans Public School Systems for the past 7 years and I hear stories about battered women and children almost every day.
I think if we can solve the problem of faithfulness and low self esteem in the Black community we can work on coming together as a union between both genders.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 5:43PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “There is a common denominator to the scripture when it comes to ethical conduct of a righteous nation. In America because of its dominate citizenry, there are the scriptures of Holy Quran, Bible and Torah available. So we start with these books. They all concur that "thou shall not kill; and thou shall not steal; thou shall not bear false witness and so on.”
While this is true, could our religious book have the same ethical conduct that a righteous nation should be? Why Black Americans has to embrace other people’s ethical code of conduct and not have our own? Why God could not inspire one of us to write prayers as God inspired Prophet Mohammed, Prophet Moses and King David to write Psalms and prayers? In fact, God has already told me some time ago that I must stop praying the Psalms and the Al fatiah. I must pray my own prayer. I have a few already. This is the beginning of becoming an independent people. Do you understand what I am saying?
Since God is with us today, we should not have such low self-esteem and lack of intellectual abilities to formulate our own ethical standards that could be just as good if not better than the Holy Quran, Bible and Torah.
Why do we continuously live with a slave mentality that we cannot do for ourselves so we stand on what other people have. This is absolutely ridiculous for a people that claim intelligence and originality, am I right.
God is with us today and we do not have to be slave minded people that we need to have what others have.
Black Americans are going to evolve into a spectacular people that would blow you away in time to come. Everything that I say is going to happen.
Put Islam down. It is a good religion, but it is not our religion.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 8:26PM
Harry Watley
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Clark, that is one of the main points...A choice has been created. Other women after black women use to NOT be a choice. Now women are dropping down on black women has created another obstacle preventing a black man from finding his mate. What is it about a normal relationship between a black man and woman that is 'WEAK" compared to the relationship between a woman and another woman ? Black men have this preconceived notion that romance with a black man is the ultimate. What are other women doing to Black women that is ripping this preconceived notion to threads ?
This kinky matter of s*x is evil and needs to be pointed out for what it is. Almighty God did not design this action to be integrated into human activity. Thus, this behavior should be banned and will be ....in the new world .
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 9:25PM
jamal Abraham
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Sis. Siebra...what you say is the ugly reality. And why social programs must be imbedded in curriculum for developing children in schools. This can be made a mandate in our own nation but not in America because America prefers the reverse of normalcy. More a free for all in America....where black Americans have no charge....but, in our own land, we would be in charge....and in our own government...we can enact legislation to combat domestic violence and teach both men and women normal social behavior.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 10:07PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal,
I am afraid that your science is too often compromised by your religion. Homos*xuality is not unnatural, scientifically speaking.
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/2...
1,500 animal species practice homos*xuality
23. October 2006 16:28
Homos*xuality is quite common in the animal kingdom, especially among herding animals. Many animals solve conflicts by practicing same gender s*x.
From the middle of October until next summer the Norwegian Natural History Museum of the University of Oslo will host the first exhibition that focuses on homos*xuality in the animal kingdom.
"One fundamental premise in social debates has been that homos*xuality is unnatural. This premise is wrong. Homos*xuality is both common and highly essential in the lives of a number of species," explains Petter Boeckman, who is the academic advisor for the "Against Nature's Order?" exhibition.
The most well-known homos*xual animal is the dwarf chimpanzee, one of humanity's closes relatives. The entire species is bis*xual. s*x plays an conspicuous role in all their activities and takes the focus away from violence, which is the most typical method of solving conflicts among primates and many other animals.
"s*x among dwarf chimpanzees is in fact the business of the whole family, and the cute little ones often lend a helping hand when they engage in oral s*x with each other."
Lions are also homos*xual. Male lions often band together with their brothers to lead the pride. To ensure loyalty, they strengthen the bonds by often having s*x with each other.
Homos*xuality is also quite common among dolphins and killer whales. The pairing of males and females is fleeting, while between males, a pair can stay together for years. Homos*xual s*x between different species is not unusual either. Meetings between different dolphin species can be quite violent, but the tension is often broken by a "s*x orgy".
Homos*xuality is a social phenomenon and is most widespread among animals with a complex herd life.
Among the apes it is the females that create the continuity within the group. The social network is maintained not only by sharing food and the child rearing, but also by having s*x. Among many of the female apes the s*x organs swell up. So they rub their abdomens against each other," explains Petter Bockman and points out that animals have s*x because they have the desire to, just like we humans.
Homos*xual behaviour has been observed in 1,500 animal species.
"We're talking about everything from mammals to crabs and worms. The actual number is of course much higher. Among some animals homos*xual behaviour is rare, some having s*x with the same gender only a part of their life, while other animals, such as the dwarf chimpanzee, homos*xuality is practiced throughout their lives."
Animals that live a completely homos*xual life can also be found. This occurs especially among birds that will pair with one partner for life, which is the case with geese and ducks. Four to five percent of the couples are homos*xual. Single females will lay eggs in a homos*xual pair's nest. It has been observced that the homos*xual couple are often better at raising the young than heteros*xual couples.
When you see a colony of black-headed gulls, you can be sure that almost every tenth pair is lesbian. The females have no problems with being impregnated, although, according to Petter Boeckman they cannot be defined as bis*xual.
"If a female has s*x with a male one time, but thousands of times with another female, is she bis*xual or homos*xual? This is the same way to have children is not unknown among homos*xual people."
Indeed, there is a number of animals in which homos*xual behaviour has never been observed, such as many insects, passerine birds and small mammals.
"To turn the approach on its head: No species has been found in which homos*xual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have s*x at all, such as sea urchins and aphis. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bis*xual. For them, homos*xuality is not an issue."
Petter Bockman regrets that there is too little research about homos*xuality among animals.
"The theme has long been taboo. The problem is that researchers have not seen for themselves that the phenomenon exists or they have been confused when observing homos*xual behaviour or that they are fearful of being ridiculed by their colleagues. Many therefore overlook the abundance of material that is found. Many researchers have described homos*xuality as something altogether different from s*x. They must realise that animals can have s*x with who they will, when they will and without consideration to a researcher's ethical principles."
One example of overlooking behaviour noted by Petter Bockman is a description of mating among giraffes, when nine out of ten pairings occur between males.
"Every male that sniffed a female was reported as s*x, while anal intercourse with orgasm between males was only "revolving around" dominance, competition or greetings.
Masturbation is common in the animal kingdom.
"Masturbation is the simplest method of self pleasure. We have a Darwinist mentality that all animals only have s*x to procreate. But there are plenty of animals who will masturbate when they have nothing better to do. Masturbation has been observed among primates, deer, killer whales and penguins, and we're talking about both males and females. They rub themselves against stones and roots. Orangutans are especially inventive. They make *****s of wood and bark," says Petter Boeckman of the Norwegian Natural History Museum.
Tuesday, March 30th 2010 at 11:39PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, you make sense in what you speak..but, there is something that you leave out of your equation. First, of all one cannot separate science from the scientist. They are meshed together....so what is best...is to gain a clearer understanding of "why" did the scientist say what he said....All of my blogs are well though out prior to me presenting them. They can be proven true or little Abraham will not put it out. Now lets get back.
The best of nature is that God creates then destroys then reproduces. It would take me volumes of supportive data to support it but basically it says that when God created the human being and life as we know it, sure it was good..but not perfect. There are imperfections. Look how Cain slew Abel. Look how many past civilizations have been destroyed because of "behavior". How did human beings develop these tendencies that would be eventually cause of destruction. That more religion though, on the science side...there is this thing called "free will". It says that the creator does not demand lifeforms to submit to normal behavior. There is the choice to exercise tendencies contrary to normal, senseable behavior. Adversity of natural acts is allowed in the world of "free will". The deviants of nature will remain in America and suffer the judgement that America has brought on to her. Free will says that homes*xual behavior can occur but there is a price that will be paid. And it is never good. Human beings are animals no doubt, but as superior animal forms, our behavior must follow reason which is not a characteristic of "any" other lifeforms. Reason is a human trait which defines human from the wild animal. What is the reason for human homos*xuality ? What is the reason for Lesbians ? It is answers to these questions that speaks against them. The reason has to due purely with pleasure. God did not create humanity to masterbate or seek self pleasure. No work would get done. Women could have s*x all day with each other. Either way, it is a weakening activity.
In short when we find homes*xual tendency, it is a result of free will. A flaw in creation that shows itself. But there is destruction then reproduction. In the state of reproduction, attempts to illimate flaws are made. Attempts will be made to eradicate lesbianism in the new world by not welcoming that behavior. After the new nation is established, more stable families will be reinforced with positive media for familyhood. Normal family behavior will be encouraged in social settings. The point is that this flaw can be controlled by social norms practiced in the particular nation. America encourages this type of behavior as a deviant society. But in the new world planned for Africa by Black Americans, we will use our free will to slant toward the "good" in nature. The best in nature that leads to perpetual motion that leads to continuation, that fosters procreation. There is nothing wrong wanting to survive. In fact is is preferred...well, on that premise, then the fittest of men are men that engage normal behavior. Not to say that gay men cannot be strong, but that choice of free will is to either be straight or gay and the gay chose that....or God could force man to behave one way only. Point is that nationhood establishment allows for choice of the "good" in nature be performed.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 2:12AM
jamal Abraham
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Are you saying Steve that we should do as the animal do and not have any consciencious concerns about who we choose to do it with?
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 2:22AM
Helen Lofton
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Hello to All,
Firstly, I will say this. Any people and anyone that uses religion to make a judgment is a religious fanatic. The concept of separation of religion and state was a brilliant move by White America’s founding fathers that catapult them ahead of other races. Having said this, I will move on to make my point.
Homos*xuality and lesbianism will always exist in all of the races since it is one of nature’s mishaps. Homos*xuality and lesbianism has nothing to do with free choice. These people are homos*xuals and lesbians because the wiring of the brains went wrong.
For example, the makeup of the person’s gender is male and the brain wired itself to be attracted to males rather than females. This is how nature produces a homos*xual and a lesbian person. A comparison and contrast to what I am saying is the same as the brain wiring the person to be left-handed rather than right-handed. This world is set up for a right-handed person, am I right. Therefore, these things are mishaps of nature that wise people understand.
I personally was privilege to see two people born homos*xuals. I saw their homos*xuality emerging when they were about four or five years old. At that age, you have no sense of free will or the ability to make a choice. So, I know that their homos*xuality were not a matter of free will or a choice that they made. Free will implies awareness and at five years old realization is not there yet, am I right.
Okay
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 9:11AM
Harry Watley
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Jamal,
I respect your personal combination of science and religion. You make a good argument, but it is not always, or even usually, a choice of free will. Many people have serious psychological difficulties when they try to go against their homos*xual nature and conform to the "ideal" of heteros*xuality. We have some, but not complete control over our psychological makeup. The brain is an organ of the body, and God gives us the brain God chooses, as the rest of the body likewise. God gave Caster Semenya the body God gave her and the brain God gave her, she could change this through surgery, but why? The same with the brains of homos*xuals. It is what God has given them, and I personally cannot call it a mistake, or deviant.
Caster Semenya, forced to take gender test, is a woman ... and a man
BY Oren Yaniv
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Updated Thursday, September 10th 2009, 1:50 PM
Tests show that controversial runner Caster Semenya is a woman ...and a man!
The 18-year-old South African champ has no womb or ovaries and her testosterone levels are more than three times higher than those of a normal female, according to reports.
The tests, ordered by The International Association of Athletics Federations after Semenya's 800-meter victory in the World Championships, determined she's a hermaphrodite - having both male and female organs.
Semenya could be stripped of the gold medal she won in Berlin last month and her competitive future is in limbo, according to Australia's Daily Telegraph.
The athletics governing body is also expected to advise her to have surgery to fix the potentially deadly condition, the paper reported. The IAAF would not comment on the results that have yet to be released.
According to a source with knowledge of the IAAF tests, Semenya has internal testes - the male s*xual organs that produce testosterone.
Testosterone is a hormone responsible for building muscles and for producing body hair and a deep voice.
Confirmation of the test results is sure to stoke the controversy that erupted after the university student's sensational track triumph.
She has been embraced in her home country - where she was declared "our girl" - and appeared on a magazine cover after a feminine makeover.
"God made me the way I am and I accept myself. I am who I am and I'm proud of myself," she told You Magazine, which ran a photo spread.
"I don't want to talk about the tests. I'm not even thinking about them."
oyaniv@nydailynews.com
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2009...
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 9:45AM
Steve Williams
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Helen,
The book of Genesis tells us that God put humans above the other animals. In evolutionary terms we can say the same thing. But in creation there is a continuum of intelligence, and it is wrong to think that we are at the top, only one step below God. There are many lifeforms in the universe that are as far above us as we are above, say, the whales and the dolphins. And some no doubt that are extremely farther above us than that. The earth is only a tiny speck of dust in this immense galaxy, and there are many other galaxies.
We can't say for sure just what are the reasoning abilities of whales and dolphins, because there is a communication barrier. If they had fingers, and vocal cords, the ability to read, write, speak, we might have an answer. And what if they are given another billion years to evolve, what would they become? But though we know they are intelligent, they do not have the means to write a book such as Genesis, and thus act entirely according to their nature, without any guilt or censure.
But I do not think we are as much above them in intelligence as we like to believe.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 10:30AM
Steve Williams
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Brother Harry,
I agree with you almost entirely. I simply would not use the word mishap, or wrong.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 10:35AM
Steve Williams
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And let's not forget the many environmental factors at work in our youth. An example is when a young man is seduced by an older man, or an older couple, and then later in life may become disillusioned with women. Combined, this can lead to bis*xuality in later life. Just one example, there are many others.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 10:49AM
Steve Williams
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Free will does not switch on according to some imaginary biological clock. A human is born with it, whether they exercise it or not. Much like any muscle, if you exercise it often, it is further developed than in another that it is hardly used. But, homes*xuality is definitely an adversity from normal behavior. The thing about evil, wickedness or adversity is interesting.....but, almost always uses part truth and part lie....that is what makes it convincing. If evil was all lie, it would never attract so many already weak souls. Homos*xuality uses part truth in that some human birth claim to be born with this tendency. But, no one forces another to maintain this slant. It is there choice....If they wanted to change, they could seek help...but is convinced that there is no help or that this is normal. Why not throw away all the religious scripture and text books about normal procreation between man and woman. The short answer is that homos*xuality is on the rise in this country. Should it be allowed to continue to fester, there would be no new human births....human procreation would cess.....clearly proof that homos*xuality is wrong....When 2 men or 2 women learn how to create a baby, than there may be a leg to stand on....but in truth this universe was created not in myth or evil....so it takes 1 man and 1 woman to produce a human child to let us know what normal s*xual behavior is about.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 11:03AM
jamal Abraham
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Steve, As you are aware that gay population has grown to include the rich and famous in America. They are in hollywood, congress, and CEOs of very large companies. In short, may of the gay and lesbians have "money". That said, an agenda of tolerance and challenge to normalcy is actuated. But, nature inclines to repetition...if it is natural, it happens once and again and again. So lets start with ones self....How did you get here on earth ? Do you have a mother.....and do you have a father....then stop there. Sure, there is violence, domestic abuse and rape that causes alteration from the norm. But these are crimes. Occurances effected by a crime are differant thatn occurance with no crime. Much like the normal speed of wind. Normally, wind velocity is less than 10 mph, but during a toronado or hurricane, wind velocity may reach as high as 150 mph. Under these adnormal conditions, can we expect the same effects it makes on its surrounding ? Will the behavior of wind be differant under these conditions ? ....yes...
Similarly, under human trauma, we can expect adnormal behavior as well.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 11:32AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
I believe that you have a mind that is not objective. I had always feared for myself never to have an irrational mind. I will explain what I am saying.
You said this, “Free will does not switch on according to some imaginary biological clock”
While this statement is true, you should also understand that free will kicks in when a person becomes a certain age. The same as when the body grows pubic hairs around the genitals and the one the arms. You were not born with hairs under your arms, am I right.
However, we are talking about homos*xuality. Again, genuine homos*xuality is how nature put that specific person together in the womb of its mother and Jamal you do not seem to understand that no matter how much examples and references are given to you.
In other words, a genuine homos*xual or lesbian is behaving normal in accordance to how nature put them together. Heteros*xual people such as you are the ones ignorant to these people being out of the loop.
Next, you said this, “But, no one forces another to maintain this slant. It is there choice....If they wanted to change, they could seek help...but is convinced that there is no help or that this is normal.”
Again, you do not understand when you say that no one forces them to maintain this slant. It is not a slant. Nature put them together that we while they were developing in their mother’s womb.
You believe they should change because you are a religious fanatic when there is nothing wrong with these people since they were genuinely born that way. It is not as if though they were born with a physical defect in their heart. The defect is in their brains and development when they were a fetus.
In some cases, even the body develops out of the loop as Steve pointed out with the South African runner that is a hermaphrodite, having the genitals of both s*x.
Lastly, you said this, “Why not throw away all the religious scripture and text books about normal procreation between man and woman. The short answer is that homos*xuality is on the rise in this country. Should it be allowed to continue to fester, there would be no new human births....human procreation would cess.....clearly proof that homos*xuality is wrong.”
The rationale of this comment is utterly ridiculous and could only come out of the mind of a religious fanatic. For instance, homos*xuality would never supersede heteros*xuality. Heteros*xuality is the norm in homos*xuality is the exception to the rule. Therefore, homos*xuality will never interfere with procreation.
For instance, since the days of Sodom and Gomorrah procreation stand strong to this day over homos*xuality, am I right. People are still born today from heteros*xuals. In fact, it is heteros*xuals that produces homos*xuals every now and then, am I right.
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 11:53AM
Harry Watley
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Not to get to far away from the Blog, black women must be on the defense against the attack of the Lesbian community. It is adnormal behavior, though pleasurable, leads to an "end" contrary to normal human behavior. Let American harbor this abomination...not so in the new world conducive to allowing for normal natural tendency to mature and blossom into a society perpetual in human delivery.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 12:10PM
jamal Abraham
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Club foot (1 out of 173 births), Cleft lip/palate (1 out of 750 births), Down syndrome (Trisomy 21) ( 1 out of 1000 births), Metabolic disorders (1 out of 800 births). Choice is to treat these birth defects or leave as is under the guise that it is natural and leave alone. Some people are born with 6 toes. In very rare cases, some people are born with a tail....Again, should they leave the tail attached or cut it off. Point is that birth defects occur and they are just that....birth defects..they are birth adnormalities.
Most of the science community will agree with me as a scientist that birth defects and flaws in human creation are not purely contributed to playing the odds; there are other factors involved. Births to homes*xual tendencies may be attributed to acute drug use of 1 or both parents, radiation, food, environment or other possibilities. But, to rationalize normalcy contrary to scripture, contrary to God, contrary to science and contrary to reason will never fly.
Richard says, "So after all that—my challenge to you all is: EVEN IF YOU BELIEVE HOMOs*xUALITY IS SOME SORT OF FLAW, EVEN SO…WHY NOT ACCEPT THEM FOR WHO THEY ARE, FLAWS AND ALL? WHY PERSECUTE A WHOLE POPULATION OF PEOPLE FOR BEING “FLAWED”? "
This is just what Almighty God in destroying the towns of Sodom and Gomorrah. This question has already been answered by history. My point is not to demonize gay or lesbians only that they will NOT be welcome with us in the setting up of a "righteous nation" that will conform to natures rules and laws and not to adnormalities. The Lesbian and community is rich and very powerful and with enough money and alcohol, they try to convert others to their ways....so this blog is for the normal community to beware and follow the teachings in scripture and the best of what nature unfolds before your eyes every day of your lives.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 1:34PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal,
I have to go with Harry on this one. Your ideal society is not possible except through repression, albeit religious oppression. A homos*xual who is repressed, whether by religious teaching or law is still repressed and will suffer because of it. And repression does not have to do with free will but rather force of a person's will.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 1:36PM
Steve Williams
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Steve,
There was an episode of Saturday Night Live where this family was kiss happy. Men were kissing other men and slobbering all over them. This was so-called funny. Who's the fool..... the viewers. It is homos*xual writers and editors that approve this sort of thing. The same writers could promote normal human relationship....that is not repression but progaganda control. Can you stamp out birth defects...no impossible. Can you stop people born with 6 toes or 1 ear ?...no
No more can you stop people born with homos*xual tendencies. The key is what do you do when the defects occur. You can rationalize their adnormalacy as OK and let them weaken your society or you can encourage defect correction. And that is just what we are talking about. Repression is not appropriate since the only homos*xual people in the new world will be the rare cases that they occur once in Africa.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 1:47PM
jamal Abraham
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And during the time I was writing my comment I was interrupted so did not see Richard's comment and Jamal's following. So I will add two things. Jesus also associated with prostitutes, and was condemned for that as well. And this: the story of Sodom and Gomorrah was about the evil of attempted rape.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 1:50PM
Steve Williams
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Jamal,
I have known homos*xuals of all colors, And it has been so throughout history. There are only two choices, repress or accept.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 1:57PM
Steve Williams
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Clark,
I believe there is no higher prevalence of homos*xuality among blacks than the general population.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 2:02PM
Steve Williams
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Clark, the main use of religion is moral teachings. Religion serves no other "real" purpose. Judgement is fundamental to nationhood. Without judgement, society suffers because anything goes. In America, anything goes and look what we have. All the major religions agree that homos*xuality is a sin. s*x between a man and a woman is lawful on the other hand. Science points to its rare occurances much like any other birth defect. Knowing this, it is expected to be treated as a birth defect and not as a "normal" phenomena in the new world. Treating it.....is that repression....don't think so.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 2:11PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal,
All the major religions are wrong, but can you admit that possibility and that science is more reliable than unprovable religion?
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 2:31PM
Steve Williams
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Clark, You know my answer...Of course science trumps religion....science was here first...it is the way it is. But, keep in mind that there was a time when the best scientists thought the earth to be flat....to say that scientists are steadily uncovering new findings in research and that is why one must keep their mind open to "new" information unfolded by science.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 2:37PM
jamal Abraham
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True, the latest findings question Einstein.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 2:48PM
Steve Williams
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little,
Lesbian is a term most widely used in the English language to describe s*xual and romantic desire between females. Lesbian as a concept, used to differentiate women with a shared s*xual orientation, is a 20th-century construct.
The secularPaganFemales is told she is equal by the secular scientists,
yet each month the biological scientists and Her Creator prove that she is not equal.
little says:
"Clark, You know my answer...Of course science trumps religion...."
what absurdity, in the Opinion!
Science seems to be any researched knowledge or theorized practice that is capable of resulting in a reliably-predictable type of outcome that effects or has affect on Mankind.
Science may refer to a highly skilled technique, or practice, from which a good deal of RANDOMNESS in outcome has been removed to achieve a communal truth.
This communal truth is constantly evolving with new observations and theories.
Science in the time of Ibraheem is not Science of 2010!
Religion is often described as a communal system for the coherent belief focusing on a system of practiced Thought that is associated in a time before the Creation of Mankind and the things mankind is associated with.
Religion is considered ancient, sacred, divine, or of the highest truth.
Moral codes, practices, values, tradition, rituals, scriptures, life and death are associated with religious Belief. Religion is also often described as a "way of life" or the life stance.
whether it is the frightened cave dweller, searching/ theorizing for an answer to sun, moon, time or death;
or einstein---searching/theorizing for an answer to sun, moon, time or death.
they were created men searching/theorizing----
DeenAlIslaam Evolves the simplistic 'religious definitions of old paganThought' and gives mankind belief in Truth or scientific theories that man can measure; OR the Belief that The Creator is beyond and can take The Believer BEYOND the measured theories, if Creator wills........
The Believer knows that Science 100--Science 2895, me, you is in the control of The Creator, not the researcher. So NO science cannot trump DeenAlIslaam......................
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 3:48PM
robert powell
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Robert....you fell into Steve's trap door
Science trumps all things because science is God's law. The science that runs this universe is only partially understood. That does not change science. The science of gravity has been here for millions of years, though, Isaac Newton only recently discovered it....The science that this universe is governed by is absolute truth...the only variance is man's interpretation. So almighty God leaves the universe as an open book for those that want to study and perform research. Man is limited by his instruments of detection and mathematical capacity. But the science of it is perfect. As man develops more sophisticated tools in his exploratory work, he comes closer and closer to truly understanding the fundamental natural laws that govern the world around him.
Not having a science degree, Robert, you fell for the obvious. There was a time when there was no organized religion. In the Holy Quran, it says the universe was created in "truth" not religion. The truth of creation underscores the science behind it. There was "never" a time when God's laws were not at work. Science is the only segment of academia that attempts to learn natures laws and inquires the difficult question of "why".
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 4:37PM
jamal Abraham
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Robert,
As always, a delight to have you weigh in. I like the old word, Philosophy. The Love of Knowledge.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 5:50PM
Steve Williams
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Hello to All,
A word to the wise is that religion and science should never be mixed. Religion could never justify science as the experience Galileo had and you could never find a reason in religion to justify science.
Bear in mind that religion and science is not a part of God.
In other words, this blog is about homos*xuality. Religion has nothing to do with homos*xuality. However, science has everything to do with homos*xuality. God is neither a part of science or homos*xuality.
Am I right?
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 7:50PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, What !
Religion is an expression of God's word while Science is God's laws. They are related. Islam welcomes science because science should prove Islam to be true. Science should bear witness to Islam so there is no aprehension about studying science that it may contradict some religious teachings.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 8:48PM
jamal Abraham
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Brother Harry,
You lost with your last sentence.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 10:28PM
Steve Williams
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Hello to All,
Okay, we are now on the point of what religion is since I said that religion and science should never be mixed. The causes of homos*xuality are entirely separate from religion.
Jamal said this, “Religion is an expression of God's word”. This is absolutely wrong.
Religion is a set of beliefs in God how a specific race of people will worship God through devotional, ritual observances, and a moral code based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. Now, since people are racially different beliefs will vary.
For example, Prophet Mohammed is the spiritual leader only to the Arabian people and Islam is their religion. Some of their rituals are Ramadan and praying five times a day facing the East. The Jews are different. One of their rituals is the Passover and their spiritual leader for the most part is Moses. Christianity is different as well. One of their ritual observances is Good Friday and their spiritual leader is Jesus’ teachings. Now, Black Americans are just beginning our religion, LIFE since we have a genuine spiritual leader, Prophet Harry. All religions had a beginning, am I right. Consequentially, we see the differences in religions since people are racially different. Am I making any sense?
So, religion is not an expression of God word if you will since you must have confidence in the Prophet that God have anointed since God works through the anointed Prophet and the Prophet introduces his people to God through rituals observances, devotion and moral code. Am I making any sense?
So, religion has nothing to do with science and homos*xuality, am I right.
Now, science is the laws that govern creation. Gravity is a law with in creation that governs falling objects. However, science has nothing to do with God either.
Now, our rational mind observing the intelligence of creation tells us that there must be an intelligent designer and we call the intelligent designer, God. Am I making any sense here with you people?
Steve, perhaps this post may bring you back on track since you think that I was lost, okay.
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, March 31st 2010 at 11:56PM
Harry Watley
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Brother Harry,
I said I was lost. Whether you are is up to you. But to be serious, please explain how science has nothing to do with God, if God created, and also gave us minds to understand creation?
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 12:19AM
Steve Williams
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The growing number of Lesbians among Black Americans is alarming. As Father of a new world, we must be mindful of the spread of disease. America is a host to every type of foul bird among the truthful and righteous. To separate the sheep from the goat and weeds from the plants is challenging. This blog speaks to the contamination efforts of those trying to distort our beautiful black women. Almighty God warns then destroys.....he always gives humans a chance to repent or reverse their bad ways. Black women need not be confused by the foolishness and disregard of religion by Harry and the like. God did not make women to drop down on other women. It is a divine sin...and the Father will not concede under the premise that all are from God.
As far as religion is concerned, it is not only the expression of Gods word...also, it provides a history of nations and events that demonstrates Gods reason for reward and chastisement of people and governments that have gone astray. Verification of its authenticity can be made with science when understood.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 12:28AM
jamal Abraham
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Brother Harry,
I apologize for the confusion. I did indeed leave out the word me two comments back.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 12:54AM
Steve Williams
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Jamal,
If two women love each other, or if a man and woman love each other, or a man and a man love each other, it is love in each case. Love is not a sin. The Ten Commandments tell us what is sin.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 1:15AM
Steve Williams
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Jamal,
In Leviticus chapters 18-20 are detailed various s*xual sins and their punishments. Intercourse between two men is a capital offense. Intercourse with a woman on her period is a lesser offense. they are merely cut off from their people. s*x between two women is not mentioned among this extensive enumeration of s*xual sins, nor is oral s*x between two men.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 2:42AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
Okay, you meant that you did not understand the last sentence of my posts to wit; “Now, our rational mind observing the intelligence of creation tells us that there must be an intelligent designer and we call the intelligent designer, God.”
What I am saying is that God is the entity responsible for creation and how creation unfolds has nothing to do with God. In other words, God exist because creation is evident and was intelligently put together. Not randomly put together, but intelligently put together.
For instance, in God creation there is tornado, lightning and rain. So when a person say that 10 people died as a result of a tornado, God cause it they are absolutely wrong. Likewise, when a person takes the Bible, which is the Jewish people’s testimony and uses it as Jamal is doing to say that God is against homos*xuality because of what happened with Sodom and Gomorrah is rationally absurd. Homos*xuality is a malfunction and to think that a homos*xual would rather be homos*xual and heteros*xual is ridiculous thinking as Clark pointed out about his homos*xual friend. Jamal reasons as a religious fanatic would.
Again, how creation unfolds has nothing to do with God per se. Do you understand the gist of what I am saying?
Many ignorant Blacks believes that slavery was caused by God as a curse to Ham’s descending and supposedly Black Americans are Ham’s descendents.
Some people believe that God caused the recent earthquake in Haiti. The earthquake was about how creation is unfolding. The shifting of tectonic plates is the cause of the surface moving, which caused stable buildings to collapse on people.
So again, it is a matter of rationalizing. Some of us rationalize much better than others do. I posted a blog about rationalizing; did you read it?
In conclusion, know that how creation unfolds is just that. On the other hand, God does intervene, but very rarely in creation on behalf of people crying out for help. Miracles do happen as in the case of the oppressed Children of Israel that God intervened. Likewise, as in Black America’s case, Black Americans have been crying out for God help over 500 years to be a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that they could call their very own country with borders. As God anointed Moses to deal with the Children of Israel God have also anointed Harry to deal with Black America’s problem of oppression. Am I making good sense?
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 6:45AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
I would say that it is going to take you a while to grow out of your religious fanaticism.
When you hear a person say these things, “The growing number of Lesbians among Black Americans is alarming. As Father of a new world, we must be mindful of the spread of disease. America is a host to every type of foul bird among the truthful and righteous. To separate the sheep from the goat and weeds from the plants is challenging. This blog speaks to the contamination efforts of those trying to distort our beautiful black women. Almighty God warns then destroys.....he always gives humans a chance to repent”
Your comment is typical religious fanatic rhetoric. Lesbianism and homos*xuality are inclusive in creation and it hovers around a constant percentage. I believe that Richard said 3-5%. So, the scary words that you use such as, “alarming” identifies you as a religious fanatic.
You go on to identify yourself as, “Father” of a new world. The use of the word, “Father” also coincides with past religious fanatics such as Father Divine.
Lastly, you use ancient scripture terminologies such as, separating the sheep from the goats spells out that you are a religious fanatic. You must come out of other people’s scriptures. Our scripture is fourth coming and will be about us as the scriptures you are using are about the Jewish people. Have not you notice that I do not quote scriptures and connect them to us since they are not our scriptures?
Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. Consequentially, everything that is divine coming to us must also be new and not belonging to the Jews and Arab people, am I right.
Jamal, you may be at the point that you need professional help.
However, I applaud your recent intellectual maturity that you no longer delete my comments, but instead you deal with them as best you could. That is a big improvement in your personality and attitude.
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 7:20AM
Harry Watley
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Harry, first of all you need to go back to school....
Your lack of science understanding is apparent. God is not divorced from creation but part of creation itself. How rediculous for you to think otherwise. Prior to creation there was nothing. For the Creator to begin, He had to begin with self-creation. For self creation to occur, it had to be homogeneous with what was available. Then, the universe had to homogeneous with the elements of His self creation. In other words, since fire, water and atoms make up the universe...these same things had to make up the creator.
Father Divine has no parellel with me. Divine is not the name of the father but Abraham is. As Father....my commandment is to deliver the truthful and righteous out of America to Africa. We leave behind the corrupt baggage stung by the spoils of America. Black Women that desire to live the norm, the way God intended are the ones we seek. Rather than those looking for rationalization to do wrong and contrary to what nature had intended.
As far as deleting your comments....will continue to do so should you exceed the limits of respect.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 9:06AM
jamal Abraham
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Well I can say that I have never had a real problems with homos*xual people, because they seem to instantly dislike me. I guest it might be because I'm not confused about my s*xual orientation. When I was younger and more attractive, I did feel as if a few were friendly, just trying to copy my mannerism.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 10:04AM
Helen Lofton
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Robert...if you cannot address me by my name...all future comments of yours will be DELETED
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 10:09AM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal,
Robert's thoughts on this topic are of the utmost interest to me. I feel cheated. Plus, he is a great friend of mine. I myself have said my last on this blog.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 10:38AM
Steve Williams
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Steve,
Robert is a reject and not welcome on any of my blogs until he learns how to address one properly or do not address them at all like Helen.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 10:57AM
jamal Abraham
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Steve....
They took Black men's name, religion, culture and language away......about 500 years ago. Now we have some of it back...but, when it comes to "respect"...This is what Black Men have....
ANYONE including ANYBODY THAT KNOWINGLY AND DELIBERATELY DISREPECTS ABRAHAM ...CAN GO STRAIGHT TO HELL...that is my view
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 11:52AM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal,
But my point is if you post controversial subject, you will get controversy, and people express themselves as they will. A blog is an invitation to discussion, and the discussion must be free even when seen as rude by some, because a person will express themselves as they will. Now I am quite sure that Robert strongly disagrees with some of what I say, yet there has never been any disrespect between us. Why?
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 12:28PM
Steve Williams
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Sure, Steve
Don't mind disagreement..that opens the discussion....but blatent disrespect is another thing....I cannot stand for it....just my way.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 1:18PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal,
I did not see the post, so cannot comment on that.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 1:30PM
Steve Williams
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What I said was that to keep me level headed one could address me as Little Abraham...but Robert wants to address me as little...which is "inadequate" because much is in a name...and I love my name because both books says that a good name is better than gold.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 3:12PM
jamal Abraham
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I do not see the blatant disrespect, just strong words. It is after all, perhaps presumptuous to assume the title Father Abraham?
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 3:13PM
Steve Williams
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Only presumptuous to the idiot that have not read any of my blogs. It is the name on my drivers license.....It is the name almighty God Allah gave me...thats enough
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 3:50PM
jamal Abraham
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Ok, I read your blogs, or blags and I might Still be an Idiot.
So little jamal abraham is on your drivers license?
And god gave you that name?
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 4:39PM
robert powell
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Normally, I capitalize God but that is your business.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 4:41PM
jamal Abraham
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Sis. Siebra, you mentioned " a lot of females my age have low self esteem. However it's not all black women that are turning lesbian but there is a large number of factors that contribute to them turning lesbian (such as domestic violence, troubled childhood, being molested, etc)".
This is a point of reality and is differant then this condition at birth..as many of the previous comments. The things you mentioned Siebra can be better managed. We already mention, for example, that domestic violence suppression will be including as required coursework at all high schools, colleges and universities in the new world planned for Africa. Programs that encourage and strengthen the family will help in the childhood instability. As far as the child molestation....this will have to be made vocal in the churches, mosques and places of worship. Family values and morals have to be conveyed the better choice than otherwise.
But these many cases were not born like this and this is what I am noticing. These are women that have learned this "way" and aggressively attempts to induce other innocent black sisters that do not know any better. This is why of the Blog to make these innocent black sisters aware of this danger and to say to the made Lesbians....time to change your ways because the Father has returned.
Thursday, April 1st 2010 at 8:18PM
jamal Abraham
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Brother Jamal, excellent analysis!!!
Friday, April 2nd 2010 at 1:53PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Lesbians are, in my analysis, a group of women in paganChristian societies, that believe that the monthly DEMANDS that THE CREATOR, made for the female body and the DEMAND that THE CREATOR makes on the female body to reproduce---that the DEMANDS of THEIR CREATOR are unequal.....
Lesbians then, in my opinion, are lazy, weak, selfish, followers of the Destruction of the Human Family---
now as for the little father arrival, please.
Wednesday, April 7th 2010 at 9:29AM
robert powell
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Well, I was not here 100 years ago....so in that sense I have now arrived.
Wednesday, April 7th 2010 at 11:08AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello to All,
I will post this comment on Greg’s blog as well.
I told you Negroes that genuine lesbianism and homos*xuality are a condition that a person is born with, am I right.
You people are so ignorant that you use a spiritual book to guide your philosophy about lesbianism and homos*xuality, which is a physical condition in God creation.
Black Americans are the most irrational people the world has ever seen and that is because we descended from slaves and our immediate ancestors were deliberately made ignorant people to be obedient slaves, right.
Black Americans need the help of God and we have it. We are going to come out of our ignorance and stupidity to become one of the most intelligent people the world has ever seen.
Again, all races have lesbianism and homos*xuality.
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, April 7th 2010 at 7:57PM
Harry Watley
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Did humanity create itself ?.....who does humanity have to answer to.....Did any man create himself ? Why should children obey their parents....Do children owe anything to their parents.
What about some answers. Humanity is responsible to God. In any society there will be birth defects...it is one of the unfortunate realities. God taught me that all men and women have evil tendencies. It is a nation's responsibility to encourage righteousness. But, In America , we find society stimulates then evil tendencies of gays and lesbianism. There a Gay bars and Lesbian night clubs...on TV we see men loving men and women loving women.....so these emotions which are normally crushed....when there is a weak man or a weak woman that finds it difficult to suppress these temptations that are so pravelent in the society they are in....they give in and allow their lower urges to take over.
In the New world, even though Gays and Lesbians will not be allowed, it is certain that generations from establishment of our homeland, there will be cases of Gays and Lesbians. Since the Kingdom society will not encourage or stimulate those emotions, tendencies in persons with this sensitivity will be suppressed.
Then again, the African Countries which we go to have their own problems. Our goal is not to bring America's problem to Africa. But to heal Africa via Tanzania, Morocco and Egypt from her economic woes.
One can tell when you are not dealing with the Divine order when there are no rules. With Harry, anything goes....maybe a nudist colony.....
But, with Little Abraham....God gives us a few rules.
Wednesday, April 7th 2010 at 9:18PM
jamal Abraham
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