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What FACTORS Keep Black Civilization at the BOTTOM of the human chain ? (994 hits)

There are individual Blacks that have risen to a level of superior quality of life. But as a people we hover at the bottom underneath the hispanic. By definition, civilization is an advanced state of intellectual, cultural, and material development in human society, marked by progress in the arts and sciences, the extensive use of record-keeping, including writing, and the appearance of complex political and social institutions.
Or... The type of culture and society developed by a particular nation or region or in a particular epoch: Mayan civilization; the civilization of ancient Rome.
Or....The act or process of civilizing or reaching a civilized state.
Or.... Cultural or intellectual refinement; good taste

Now take any black nation..... be it in Africa or the Carribbean or anywhere and compare it to the definition of civilization. What makes black people as a people so backwards, violent, unorganized and just plain po...
There are 2 main factors:
1) Religion
2) envy and jealousy

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Clark...name one black country
Friday, April 9th 2010 at 4:28PM
jamal Abraham

Irma...did I not say black civilization...one must learn to "read"
Friday, April 9th 2010 at 4:28PM
jamal Abraham

Take a child of any race that is 10 years old.... Ask her would she like to have a country ruled by her own people that was prosperous. Or would she prefer to live in a country where everything is provided but risk unfair treatment. I have asked children in some of my mentorying class this very question, and 9 of 10 preferred a country of their own. Now these are children.

OK, now take a black adult....ask them would they like to have a country ruled by their own people that was prosperous...first they would want to know of your religion....then they would size you up to figure should they be jealous.

Blacks are denied even common sense in favor of religion. In my efforts for black nationhood, I really do not care of black people's religion....nor care of black people's bank account.

Friday, April 9th 2010 at 4:36PM
jamal Abraham

Civilization is the process of civilizing or becoming civil. A civilized society is often characterized by advanced agriculture, long-distance trade, occupational specialization, and urbanism.
So Clark, now that we know we are talking about civilization and not economy lets look at Nigeria since you brought it up:

2006 January onwards - Militants in the Niger Delta attack pipelines and other oil facilities and kidnap foreign oil workers. The rebels demand more control over the region's oil wealth

2006 February - More than 100 people are killed when religious violence flares in mainly-Muslim towns in the north and in the southern city of Onitsha.

2007 September - The rebel Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (Mend) threatens to end a self-imposed ceasefire and to launch fresh attacks on oil facilities and abductions of foreign workers.

2008 April - Two former health ministers and a daughter of President Olusegun Obasanjo are among 12 top health officials charged with embezzling around 470m naira (4m dollars) of public health funds.

Oil production cut by about half as a result of strike action and attacks on pipelines by militants; problems in Nigeria help keep world oil prices at record highs.

2009 July - Hundreds die in northeastern Nigeria after the Boko Haram Islamist movement launches a campaign of violence in a bid to have Sharia law imposed on the entire country. Security forces storm Boko Haram's stronghold and kill the movement's leader.

Government frees the leader of the Niger Delta militant group Mend, Henry Okah, after he accepts an amnesty offer.

This is hardly a country, I would call an example of civilized society. They can't even elect a leader without civil war with thousands killed and injured, mostly innocent. How many people got killed or murdered in the election of President Barack Obama ? the answer is none. In an advanced civilized society, nobody gets killed when you elect new leaders.

Friday, April 9th 2010 at 5:37PM
jamal Abraham

My point is the truth hurts but points to black people need to demonstrate that we are capable of conducting a nation and rule in a civilized manner with respect to other civilized nations where rule of law reigns supreme and the black citizenry are allowed to advanced in education including the arts and sciences. This is what Black Americans will demonstrate in our mission to establish homeland in Africa to become a model for other African nations and black countries the world over.
Friday, April 9th 2010 at 5:51PM
jamal Abraham

''What makes black people as a people so backwards, violent, unorganized and just plain po...
There are 2 main factors:
1) Religion
2) envy and jealousy''

Classic. Just plain classic. I couldn't agree more. Yet they're the ones praying the loudest, screaming to the ceiling the loudest, and have been for a very long time. And they're still poorer than po ... collectively, that is. Absolutely incredible.

My God -- who art in heaven and sees and knows all -- why have you forsaken them? Why do you choose to turn a deaf ear to those who bless your name and bless others who blaspheme against thee?

Sorry. Rhetorical question.
Friday, April 9th 2010 at 5:59PM
Craig Amos

Irma, the questions were in a classroom forum either during summer camp or the "urban science fair". They were just random questions. The answers I use in a data base for grant proposals based on making positive impacts on segments of the data. As far as dictating the lifestyles of children.....sure there are rules in advanced civilizations..but the degree of freedom is relatively large so as to give children to express themselves. We will encourage children to fruits and vegetables but they can choose which one they prefer, as an example. But, it was amazing that children have the common sense to prefer ruling their own country and make it prosperous.
Friday, April 9th 2010 at 8:51PM
jamal Abraham

Clark, you see our people thru a rosy glass. While I commend your positive spirit, there is the thing we call the Truth. I provided the Websters definition of civilization so that we know what we are talking about. Then I asked you to name me any 1 country. You named several. But, this blog is about black civilization. So, did I not respond to what I asked. Again, never is there a charge for the truth.

The type of murder, mayhem, butchering, hatch to death, slashing and raping going on in African countries is no way close to civilization. For me as Father of a new world is to get at real Black Love. And to get at this level of Love, one must get behind the depth of hatred. What makes black people want to mame their brothers and sisters, mothers and children in Africa. It is absolutely uncivilized. There is no rosy picture to the human slautering that has been going on across Africa and in particular the Black countries. To ignore the element of hatred is not to correct it. To be hush hush about how much hatred it takes a person to rape a young girl because not of your tribe....then mame her....there is nothing civilized about that. In America, sure there is crime....but, when was the last coup on the U.S. Government of the United States. There is no general breakdown in law and order where there is general terror in the community.

Black people need to get pass religion and envy. We as a people need to learn to love one another as brothers and sisters. Religion was not to cause war but to create peace. Religion was not meant to divide humanity but to unite humanity around truthfulness and righteousness. Because Blacks have put their love in "objects" of religion instead of their brothers and sisters....or have put their love in "money" so will love you based on how much money you have. Then it has become easy for Blacks to act uncivilized. Since the real love has gone.

I lived in Phoenix for a while working for an Sperry Rand Flight Systems. During my stay in Phoenix, I noticed the mexicans in the city. Mexicans were everywhere. The blacks live on the south side. Mexicans lived on all sides of the blacks. Mexican families appeared tight. There was a lot of inner family interaction; hugs, smiles, comradery. Mexican families and mexican friends all seem to get along. It did not to seem to matter of how much money the Mexicans had. They got along with each other. So the case of mexican shows how you don't have to have a lot of money to act civilized to each other...that is what puts mexicans above us.

We, as Black Americans must teach our people....black people how to act civilized, now that we have survived the Americans experience. We must become the "examples" of civil behavior to black Africans once we have established our homeland in Africa.
Friday, April 9th 2010 at 9:14PM
jamal Abraham

Craig, You're right on......"Why do you choose to turn a deaf ear to those who bless your name and bless others who blaspheme against thee? "

The entertainment that goes on in church and the mosques in "show" of the love of God. It is the entertainment that has been magnified at the expense of ever attaining a real love of self. Then you get so wrapped up in the entertainment, that you soon substitute it for black love....When in actuality, there is no substitute for Black love.....you either have it or you don't.
Friday, April 9th 2010 at 9:44PM
jamal Abraham

It turns out irma, that we go to specific countries in Africa. We don't go to Nigeria. Its just about reading. We go to Tanzania, Morocco and Egypt and 2 other countries.

Irma, you asked me a question about the children and I answered it. Now, you are talking in circles again. Suggest, you may need a husband. Perhaps a husband can help you focus.
Friday, April 9th 2010 at 10:36PM
jamal Abraham

Jamal
Your system of thinking is not gonna be beneficial for those who first thought that you had a good plan. Have you ever wondered why for years the only photos that were shown of Africa were of slums and rural areas.
I would think that in order to enslave a person's mind, body, and soul, you need to make them believe that there is no place to go and no one to turn to for help. So In order for that plan to work, you need to set up positions in the place where you've taken your slaves from to make sure that they don't advance themselves. If you thought with this frame of mind, you could understand "what's going on".
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 11:02AM
Helen Lofton

Helen...that would all be fine and dandy if one set out to trick massive number of people. But, this work is a divine plan set out by the One God. He does not want black Americans to be unaware of dangers that lurk. The forewarned me prior to getting an engineering degree, that it would mean countless all-nighters studying, reading and many exams and lab work. What you fail to deal with is that members that participate in nation Building group are serious and not on a fence. If a member is on the fence, my job is to get them off the fence. Why, because the rewards are enormous. In my current job the operating voltage that is employed on this big piece of equipment is 4160volts of electricity. Now just 20volts is enough to give you a sting. So what kind of danger do you think is lurking if my operating equipment is 4160 volts. It says that my expertise is working amongst dangers and establishing control and positive performance. That is what I do. What we have had is a bunch of preachers, ministers, Imams and deacons leading massive numbers of Black People....the rah rah is there but no ability.......the fanfare is there but not action......the claps and applause is there but not homeland....It least by transfering to Africa as a "project" is provides us the luxury of having all of our efforts paid for..all we have to do is provide the skills and labor. Seems smart to me.
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 12:05PM
jamal Abraham

Well, Irma, I am relieved that you have a husband, otherwise, I was going to have to FIND you one.
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 12:39PM
jamal Abraham

As polygamy is also in the ancient histories, why do we not now practice it? Or do we?
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 1:45PM
Steve Williams

In Islam, civilization is even taken further to mean "anyone that has lost a knowledge of himself and living a beast life."

By global world standards, they have put Africa in the state of 4th world status. This is the lowest you can put world standards. It has always been 3rd world status to denote a world that is totally backwards. But, 4th world.

But, my work is to change that not from a standpoint of being naiive but facing the truth. There is not one thing that I have mention that is not the truth. The main reason that slavery was even allowed to exist in Africa is because Europeans justified it to the Pope of Rome that slavery was good for a bunch of savages. No civilization allows someone to come in and make slaves out of its people unless the civilization have gone so far away from morality that eveything is about money. You don't make slaves out of millions of human beings unless those in charge of those human beings have no sense of human life and suffering. Are we Black Americans of the 21st Century a bunch of fools....well you might be.....but they didn't hand me a degree in engineering because I slant truth. It turns out that the level of death in Africa is deep. And Black Civilization is in deed at the LOWEST of any other civilization on this planet earth. It is Allah the God that inspires me to write these topics....I don't get approval from CLARK...or no one else for that matter. Almighty God Allah desires black Americans to know how far we have been and how far we have DROPPED. And in Africa we have dropped down to animal bottom and it is a matter of awareness to this reality that allows men of understanding and wisdom to make accomodations accordingly.
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 4:27PM
jamal Abraham

No, Irma, not here 24/7.....we are now finishing up a urban science fair that will impact several hundred students...teaching them the importance of math and science. Anyone can pound on the keypad and bellow bull****, but, if it were not for persons that sacrifice their lives for the upliftment of their people....then there would be no hope. Africa is a goldmine and we go to Morocco not to play the casinos but to upgrade their industry for land. Without a plan, there can be no success. But, engineers plan before they act and that is why black Americans clash with engineers because the bull**** has to stay home. Civilization is not abstract open to rhetoric....if a nation is poised as civilized that its record speaks for itself. What African nation is making positive headline news. What African nation has just come up with a vaccine for AIDS....Which African Nation has a grip on hunger, starvation and agriculture. Which African nation has pure drinking water. There is a reason for Africa the way it is.....and it is because of two reasons:
1) Religion
2) Envy and Jealousy
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Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 4:35PM
jamal Abraham

Jamal
Apparently you don't know what it feels like to held-down and held-back. You own your own property, so you don't have to be concerned about your landlord always trying to find reasons to enter your home while you're absent. You have never had people dislike you because you don't want them putting their hands in your head. You've had the luxury of your privacy not being invaded because your family acquired money when you were young. We are all different because we all have lived different environmental experiences.
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 5:47PM
Helen Lofton

Hello Jamal,

I must applaud you on how well you have presented you point concerning wanting to have our own.

I too have talked to children. All of them expressed having their own rather than settling for how things presently are. It is amazing how ignorant and different in thinking adult Blacks are as compare to children. No doubt, these ignorant Black adults and many of them are on BIA site that would encourage our upcoming children not to desire having their own, but rather making it in White America’s way. Mr. Clark, Irma, Mozell Fleming, Jen Fad etc. are among those that would discourage Black children from wanting their own.

When these children become young adults, they have mixed emotions towards the adults. The children become angry, despair, misled and betrayed by their very own parents while at the same time they love these adults.

Yes, Clark does see Blacks through rose-colored glasses.

Your concept of civilization I could not agree more. However, no people could civilize another people. Nature has it that way. In other words, only a people of their own race could civilize themselves. If another people so-called civilized you, what has really happened is that they have made you inferior and followers of them.

I have said before that God created dark skinned people and for hundreds of thousands of years dark skinned people did nothing to improve the quality of their lives and advanced the conservation of the earth. As a result, evolution kicked in and other races came into existence from dark skinned people. Our lack to improve and advance angered God big-time. However, Black Americans will be the first of dark skinned people to demonstrate that we could surpass Caucasian people that would entitle us to have God crown of being the good steward of the earth.

Since we are a made people our condition is of no fault of our own. It is incumbent upon God to intervene since we are people and not animals. Our time has come.

What say you?

Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 5:47PM
Harry Watley

Harry, you are right....but you forget one thing

Black Americans are actually descendants of Black Africans. In other words, we are related. Then your theory of inferior due to differant than original, would not apply. It is reacquainting them with themselves. Civilization would be a thing of re-installing a culture that was lost. After all, we are the same as the black Africans other than the American experience, which has largely been a stuard to their industrialization. An extra pair hands to their innovative spirit and attention to details and "work hard ethic".
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 8:32PM
jamal Abraham

Hello Jamal,

Again, I will explain to you just who Black Americans are. White Americans mostly of British descent are responsible for making Black Americans. Black Americans are a made people specifically to serve White American people as slaves and in other capacities. The making of black Americans came about when White Americans bred themselves with the African slave people they purchased from the slave traders over a period of 350 years. Having said this let me move on, okay.

Now, since Black Americans numbers 41 million people is why Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. If Black Americans numbers was but a few then you could say Black Americans are a result of an interracial affair, but we are not a few, we are 41 million people.

So, as a new breed or race of people we are neither Caucasian nor Africans. We are simply not going backwards to be re-acquainted with Africans or British White people. We are moving forward and not erasing the experience of slavery that causes us to be a new breed or race of people, okay.

From the tragedy of slavery comes our divine blessing. For instance, our first blessing is to inherit a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. While this is happening, we have the opportunity to develop our own culture unique only to us and different from African people or any other people. We have the opportunity to develop a style of our own architecturally, apparels, food, religion, our names and anything else. All of these blessings and opportunities we will forgo if we are so ignorant as to turn around and go backwards to link ourselves with African people that sees themselves different people to us. God will not allow me to let Black Americans make such a tragic mistake.

Half of us made this tragic mistake after the Civil War, went back to Africa, and established the country of Liberia and now they are Africans with a bunch of problems. That is what will happen to us if we decide to go backwards. We will improve as we are and move forward on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders, okay.

There are no errors or mistakes we could make now sense of God has intervened in our circumstances. However, prior to today we were with out divine guidance since God had not risen up a prophet to guide us. Consequentially, God was not in our affairs in Elijah Muhammad’s era nor was God in our affairs when half of us decided to go back to Africa after the Civil War. Those were times that we were making errors and mistakes struggling to find our way without divine guidance.

When you know that God has intervened is when here of a genuine prophet even though it may take some time for the people to accept their prophet.

I am Black America’s first genuine prophet and I hope there will be no more after me. The Jewish people had many profits after Abraham because they were a rebellious people. The Arabian people have had no prophet since, Prophet Mohammed because the Arabian people have been obedient to God. I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world.

God does not anoint engineers. God anoints anyone that has qualities pleasing to God. What ever these qualities may be are prerequisite for God anointing. University degrees, priesthood, philanthropy and professions are meaningless since God is handling everything through the genuine prophet.

Have I making any sense with you?

Tell me what you think.

Sunday, April 11th 2010 at 9:05AM
Harry Watley

Irma, Because my main focus is moving a mass of people away from America to Africa, Politics is only relevant to me to see that they have someone in office who is sensitive to the Needs of Africa. The teaparty movement could help remove the Pres. Obama next election and my immediate impression is that Pres. Obama "IN" the white house is an advantage for me. So I am hoping the teaparty movement loose its sting at this point in time. We will have to see.
Sunday, April 11th 2010 at 10:05AM
jamal Abraham

Irma...you must have applied science confused with pseudo-science. Electrical Engineering is an applied science....and they don't pay me 6 figures annual salary for fiction in life. It better be right each and every time.....or I'm fired. And I'm working.
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 4:35PM
jamal Abraham

As-Salaam Alaikum Brother Jamal:

Perhaps the Number 1 reason for Black Civilization being at the bottom of the human chain (as you say) is that some of us (especially the men) waste way too much damn time picking a fight over the most petty of issues (be it religion or other). It's as if we have been "injected" with a disease of fighting with each other. Racism (divide and conquer), slavery, colonialism, etc., have generally been a major factor in this paradigm.

Let's focus more on solutions. If we see a problem, post the news, but include a solution. Don't just leave it too vague (the so-and-so book, said this or it was prophesized). Present clear solutions! You might know how to do floors! Share the knowledge. There's so much info online, how we can improve ourselves. Let's start a club to acquire real estate. Got a healthy recipe? Post it!

I'm not saying we can't or won't have anymore "fun", but we need to elevate ourselves or 10 years from now, we're going to be at the same place, with no real growth.
Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 4:31PM
Siebra Muhammad

Sis. Siebra....Wa Alaikum Salaam...point well taken

Say you take you care into a repairshop. You tell the mechanic that the car does not work. He fill forms out and tells you he will get back with you later. A few hours later, he tells you that your crankshaft is busted, your catalytic converter leaks, your alternator belt is broken and you need a tune-up. Then the mechanic asks you to sign on the dotted line and HE WILL FIX IT. POINT IS THAT THERE CAN BE NO SOLUTION TILL ONE IS AWARE OF THE DEPTH OF THE PROBLEM.

Each and every one of "my" blogs have a point. And there can be no solution until we as a nation of people are made aware as to the depth of the problem.
Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 4:50PM
jamal Abraham

Hello Siebra and Jamal,

It just baffles me to understand the mentality of Black Americans. Let me explain what I am talking about, okay.

Siebra you said this, “Let's focus more on solutions.”

Well, what have I been saying ever since I joined BIA, Siebra? Have I not said repeatedly that God had inspired me with our only permanent solution, which is to desire sovereignty or complete and dependence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way? You have never said that sovereignty is not our permanent solution, am I right.

So what solution other than sovereignty and our expectation of a portion of this continent do you suggest? There is not any other solution.

Did not Mr. Elijah Muhammad have an abstract idea that complete independence was our solution? However, Elijah went on to do other things by bleeding our poor Black people out of our monies.

I am sure that your parents as well as Jamal’s parents has contributed a small fortune to the NOI and have nothing to show for it, am I right.

Now, the Jamal I understand your point and analogy of the mechanic fixed in your car. However, we know what is wrong with us. We are a subjugated, ignorant and backwards people. What I just said is precisely what is wrong with us. So, how do we fix it? It is not possible for us or White America to fix our problem since our problem is divine.

I have said to you that God have visited us and I am Black America’s first genuine prophet to do what Elijah Muhammad was not anointed to do.

I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that black Americans could ever become a real people in this world.

You should know that I am the way since your notion of acquiring land in five different countries in Africa is absurd. Black Americans are a made people on this continent and besides our ancestors in our slavery was on this continent and that nowhere else in Africa.

Who else is wiser than I am? What Hebrew was wiser than Prophet Moses was? What Arab was wiser than Prophet Mohammed was?

Tell me what you think.

Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 2:24AM
Harry Watley

Hello Robert,

It is unacceptable to me that you should use excuses that you used littles' [Jamal] lack of English comprehension and lack of proof reading.

Stand up on your own two feet and not blame anything that you did on Jamal, okay.

So take back what you said and acknowledge that a Nigerian is biologically, genetically and hereditarily different from a Swedish person, period.

What say you?

Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 8:42AM
Harry Watley

P.S. If you (Robert) want to continue making your venom public on my profile page by all means be my guest. My COPY and PASTE function is in perfectly working order.
Wednesday, April 21st 2010 at 1:45PM
Siebra Muhammad

Thanks Sis. Siebra for making us aware of Roberts hatred and evil ways. Awareness is great ! and you do not deserve this kind of "name calling". that is why I simply delete...it makes life so much easier.
Wednesday, April 21st 2010 at 5:53PM
jamal Abraham

Hello Siebra,

First of all the arguments and disputes that are percolating is among Black Americans that believe they are Muslims and of the Islamic faith, am I right. Now, what should that tell you except that all of you are ignorant Black Americans since you all believe in a religion that is not yours and follows a prophet that is racially different thing you all are. That in itself should tell you that something is wrong with you all rationale, am I right.

Consequentially, you all must get out of Islam, which is a good religion, but it is not your religion that we can be on people ready to become sovereign and independent on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

I am Black America’s first genuine prophet and the name of our religion is, LIFE.

Until we shed all the things that we have embraced of other people, we will never have peace and prosperity among ourselves.

Tell me what you think.

Saturday, May 15th 2010 at 2:50PM
Harry Watley

NO!
Saturday, May 15th 2010 at 3:42PM
Siebra Muhammad

Hello Siebra,

Are you saying no to accepting your own religion (LIFE) and prophet (Harry), but that you would rather have what belongs to the Arabian people beginning with their religion of Islam and Prophet Mohammed?

You know as well as I do that Islam, the Quran and Prophet Mohammed cannot resolve the problems of Black Americans since Prophet Mohammed is not the Prophet that Allah rose up for us. Am I making any sense with you?

Please explain why you said, No.

Tell me what you think.

Saturday, May 15th 2010 at 4:52PM
Harry Watley

Any person who lives in America, a place that has not problims and even federal prisons with out a violent, law breaking prisnors in them, no sides, no poor would be a fool to leave and go where all of this exist...but charles Manson and Hitler did have followers, why odn't you Jamal...

Oh, I guess you have a way to teach at fairs black children without using the White man's books, languages. land, ect. right Jamal so this is what makes your fair so ground breaking?!? (smile) Jamal what is your native or first language most used by you, because if it is English, then_____________________do you put in here not atributed to the White man/ their influnce? (smile)

Just trying to get you to help me out of this White man's world tha is so toxic for us that god has sent you to save us from AS A F-A-C-T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

Jamal, "I" just threw in that MOROCCO question and was talking about a totaly different country altogether just to test if your goal is just to prove me WRONG...which you just did in such lengths...loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool...

either this or you know notheing about the countrys of which you just thrown out there...but again only FACTS can be tested without changing each time tested as you do, Jamal. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

Jamal, do you actually have any bleief that science can be trusted...and if you do then why are always saying and trying to disprove what science says about LUCY????...

I only ask because I don't believe something can be right and wrong at the same time and when it comes to LUCY then you must be 11# wrong about being on the human chain tha tis if science is right?????

but, then Jamal some people especiall those members of the Teaparty have no argument with you on this matter. but, then tehy don't even have jobs now do they but they are like you out there trying to get blacks especially our president out of office and right out of this country and back to Africa....(smile)

I am sure you are glad for these people in the teaparty aren't you Jamal.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

I will repaet Jamal about Africa...You see, I only see on tv the negatives of Africa...while in real life I have have had African profesors, students and Africans who have become American citizens in college and university and out side of them and from any part of Africa you can name, I have met many, many Africans...

Jamal, I have never met a poor African, I have never metm an uneducated African of any age or s*x or creed!!!!(smile)

...but then "I do live in the ral world and not a made up one on the net /public air waves...SELF AD/ bias...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

Jamal, maybe "I" am the one you should be deleting...you are going to do for me what you can't even do for your self...say like fine me someone when you can not even find someone for your self...remember you blogs are about finding people to help you do what God has asked/ todl you to do????????????????????

Or am I wrong and you have already done what God has told you to do and you are not on these sites 24-7 trying to get someone(s) to take you at your words as you take me at mine???????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

by, Jamal, I will see you some times in the future as you continue to evade any and all questions and turning science into politics , facts into fiction and countrys into what you say they are, ect O.K.? (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

Helen so true and so inspiring were those words of yours to Jamal, and certainly mor like someting God would be saying...

Poor Jamal and Harry are trying to continue the slavery of the past while Black people are moving on into leading the strongest and richest and most advanced nation on the planet and going on the reach the heavens, as in the moon and planets. (smile)

the goals of the human being is to seek the unknown and not a return to unelightment...YES WE ARE...YES WE DO...YES WE WILL..

Jamal, thank you for farther proving because you have no life you are trying to live mine...example, you trust my words more than you do your own, remember when you were in "doubt" on the husband issue??????????SMILE??????????????????..but, it is on you if you chose to try and live my life...and your own created illusino that I am in NEED.loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool, because it is not me on these sites seeking help and begging for anyone to have faith and trust in me...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

Oh, by the way Jamal if you are serious about the focus thing, this is his name out side of his Mosque off broad street in Sac. I am sure Steve can tell you what I am talking about as he lives in sac. where the NOI Mosque is as we don't have one in our local area...he will be willing to meet you face to face any time you are in the area. lol and as I said small world isn't it. and, as you know I am Buddhist but since you brought up my husband...he is 6 ft. 7 inch 270 lbs.and it is better for you to order him around as I know better. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

jAMAL, i WILL MAKE SURE i MENTION THIS TO HIM...BY THE WAY JAMAL HE LIKES TO BE CALLED hAROLD X.(smile)

small world, right, Jamal...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

You did as you usually do Jamal, which means you never mentioned any thing at all about my comments / questions about the children...you told me you were not sure where the questions wweere asked, but nothing about what I said to you at all...now can you answer this as you have not answered me any thing about if this is the same african...so maybe you cna answwer this about Morocco...is this the same Morocco that has a Kingdom and the place where rich people go to gamble?!? or is this another place that is in need of your engirneering building skills and need of people fresh out of federal prison (S) or not???? (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

Jamal, the Africa you were telling clark about is this the same Africa you are talking about that you will be taking people to to live in peace and love and happiness?!? NO wondeer you have no idea how and where you will be coming about this place if it is the same Africa, before you go clean up this place, huh? (smile) I can also better understand why you want to enpty the federal prisons, I am sure that no one there is there for committing any violent crimes or abuse of any, what white or black people.lol...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

Clark, now that there has been given undisputed proofs that Blacks do not live in African or have any ties there...what was thay you said about the Twilight ZONE???????looooooooool (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

At least "I" am thankful for those Educational moments provided by you brother Clark. That information really made me feel so much better tahn all of the negative I get from Africa.

Thanks for this blog and for this same reasons , Jamal. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

OH, but then Jamal, you are actually ASKING BLACK ADULTS WHAT THEY WANT OR ARE YOU TELLING THEM WHAT YOU WANT??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?(can't wait for you to say this is not what you are doing and either way ...asking or telling black people. I don't want to put you into a corner(smile) LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

Jamal, while you were talking to these 10 year old, did they say they enjoyed being told what to do / not do by their teachers, parents or even another peerespecially if they were not even given a say in any matter at all, but all was decided by someone what they should think is their worth, (or as you keep trying to prove having no worth at all)ability or what made them happy???? do they eat what they don't like when their parents say it is good for them or if it madse them sick or their tummy hurt and not even want to have a say?????

If you oney talked to black children then what did you have to compare th eout come...you, Jamal????? ...

Or do you really believe taht there can be a RIGHT WITHOUT A WRONG TO COMPARE IT TOO IN TEH FIRST PLACE...EITHER THIS OR ALL ROADS LEAD TO AND FROM jAMAL'S OUT LOOKS RULES AND REGULATIONS...

You coments to me seem as if you are seeking my opinion and that it matters a t all and if what I said does matteer then what about CIVILIZATION is the same as BLACK PEOPLE AND IN ANY WAY RELATED TO YOUR CONCLUSION ON THE MATTER THAT THIS DOES NTO EVEN EXIST AT ALL...

BUT, THEN THAT IS WHAT i KEEP SAYING ABOUT EMOTIONS UNLIKE FACTS CAN BE CHANGED WITH EACH TESTING OR QUESTON / ANSWER AS YOURS DOES, JAMAL. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA

Jamal, are you EXCLUDING YOUR OWN SELF AS UNWORTHY?????Or you have been able to raise your people above this but no one knows about it or are you just continuing your obsession of puting down the whole of those classified as "black" except you????(smile)

EVEN HARRY THE FIRST BLACK AMERICAN PROPHET???? or is this about HARRY'S POTENTIAL FOLLOWERS???????LOL...Just asking for more of your point in this blog on this matter in the first place...as it seem more of the same negatives from you Jamal about "blacks"...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA