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Buddhists believe this world is not created and ruled by a God. But, somehow belief that Buddhism is not atheistic. In Buddhism, the purpose of life is to end suffering. The Buddha taught that humans suffer because we continually strive after things that do not give lasting happiness.

This is Not of the Abraham based religions; Islam, Christianity or Judaism that attest to a God the Creator of the Universe. That happiness comes with fulfillment of divine purpose.

The point we make is describe peace or reality without earth. You Can't. Describe happiness and the elimination of suffering without including the planet earth and what is going on at earth. You Can't. Describe joy and purpose without introducing earth and your picture is not complete. It turns out that earth is breathing and drinks water. It maintains an atmosphere of air above and bodies of water on its surface. To say that there is no reality without earth. There is no human beings without earth. As earthlings, we are defined by the condition and goings on of our planet.

The Abraham based religions take into account the changes that take place on top of earth that effects earth. A relationship exists between earth and humanity to sustain life. Man needs food from earth for energy. When the earth speaks "against" a nation of people on its surface, an intervention takes place by way of prophets and messengers. In Buddhism, the earth is virtually a dead planet. It merely is a passing point on man's journey. But in Abraham based religions, the earth speaks her news which can cause her to bellow and shake and relieve herself of a burden. In consequence, there could be flooding as in the days of Noah. Or there could be earthquakes as most recently effected Haiti.

Religion is important in the moral composure of a person. But, without earth, there would be no place to stand, sit, sleep, or speak. To discount earth is to discount a major facet of reality. And it is at this time in reality when Almighty God and working a new intervention in the setting up of His Kingdom. Why is that important....because if one ignores what their planet speaks thru the signs, then they might be swallowed up or drowned by her in her rage.
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Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 9:23PM
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Hello Jamal,

What is mentally wrong with you? Now you are talking about Buddha. Why do you not leave Buddha alone? Buddha belongs to the people of India. You are not of Buddha’s race.

You are a Black American. Stick with who you are, your prophet [Prophet Harry] in your religion, Life.

Remember what I told you? I said that Black Americans are the most ignorant people in the world despite how many educational degrees that they have. We are not rationally thinking people. However, all of these ills are going to evaporate since God has visited us and anointed me Black America’s first genuine prophet.

We are going to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. God is going to help me that you all will come to see and desire your sovereignty.

So, please leave Buddha alone. Buddha has nothing to do with you, okay.

Tell me what you think.

Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 1:40AM
Harry Watley
With the influx of Asians to the United States and at the workplace, Black Americans are bound to be influenced by Buddhism and is it for them. Blacks should be aware of this old religion and subtle differances that oftentimes gets overlooked.

Islam takes the position that planet earth is alive is the instrument of creation, destruction and re-creation. One cannot ignore Buddhism when it is one of the worlds major religions. To stick a seed in the ground and give it water and sunlight then one witness growth is indication that Earth is more than a place for the dead....but, is a resevoir for the living as well.
Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 8:57AM
jamal Abraham
As-Salaam Alaikum Brother Jamal:

Religion is defined in many ways by the people. When you go to the root of the term, it simply means "to rejoin", "to reconnect". If there is anything you are trying to attain spiritually, then you cannot do it except through a method of religion.

Prior to and during contact with the slavemaster, the non-white people of the earth had spiritual beliefs and practices and this equates to their religion. Trance, dances, the beating of drums, burning of incenses, fasting, prayers, the eating of certain foods, doing certain things only at certain times, meditation etc. all become pointless if there was no objective of reconnecting with something.

Based on my research and what our Sister Irma has shared with us, Buddhism, like Christianity and Islam, encompasses the methods individuals use to reconnect to God. Some of us may say that Islam implies peace and is a state rather than a religion. But Islam, like Buddhism and Christianity, is a state and an action.

In order to be in the state of Islam you must be practicing Islam. Similarly, you must practice Buddhism to become a Buddah. This goes back to the 5 pillars of Islam (belief in Allah and his Messenger, fasting, prayer, pilgrimage, and charity). Indeed, Prophet Muhammad said Islam is based on 5. That is, its base, its foundation is upheld by practicing the 5.

Buddhism, like Islam and Christianity, is a religion in the same sense that Yoga is a religion. Yoga means "union". Philosophically, you can't "do" yoga. But every yogi knows that you must do yoga to attain yoga.



Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 3:39PM
Siebra Muhammad
Well, Sister Siebra...ASA...you have now opened up this blog for more discussion.
..."To reconnect with God" you say. Sure, among the most popular Buddhist deities are Kuan Yin, the Medicine Buddha, the Laughing Buddha and the Green and White Taras. No problem in wanting to reconnect. But, it turns out that there is a human-earth relationship that Buddhism does not account for. Try to leave earth...you will be pulled back down by the force of Gravity. We get food from earth. We depend on earth. Any connection....any high spritual realm....any establishment of peace has to "include" earth. And that is what is significantly differant because the Quran makes it clear that He created it in 6 periods. Almighty God makes it a point on how long it took to create earth because it is significant and now the 6 is marveled in various combinations throughout our lives.

Christianity is considered an Abraham based religion because the Bible centers around God promised to him and his seed...then the story of Bible takes off. In the Torah, the Jews recognize Abraham as the Father and friend of God and of whom blessings generated children that split and expanded the world. When Moses was at the burning bush and ask who be the voice speaking...the voice spoke the God of Abraham........to let Moses know He was indeed God. In Islam, Abraham built the house Kaaba and is the core behind the Haaj or Pilgrammage to Mecca....which is one of the five pillars and revered as the Father of many nations and friend of Allah. But in Buddhism...there is no mention of Abraham....so that is what makes Buddhism "differant" then the other 3 major religions.



Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 7:47PM
jamal Abraham
It's said that the only way to understand Buddhism is to practice it. Through practice, one perceives its transformative power. A Buddhism that remains in the realm of concepts and ideas is not Buddhism. The robes, ritual and other trappings are an expression of Buddhism but earth to man significance is not to be found. Sure, one can rid themselves of all artificial objects of the mind and be free to think but "discounting the earth and its significance to humanity" which we live on top of is pseudo-reality...and no longer real.
Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 9:47PM
jamal Abraham
Hello to All,

How rational is it that a bunch of Black Americans who are a subjugated people in White America and should desire to have their own, which is sovereignty or complete independence on the portion of this continent could find themselves discussing the pros and cons about Buddhism, a religion of India.

God educated me well when I was anointed that my people, Black Americans are extremely blind, deaf, dumb and ignorant as the Children of Israel were when Moses was sent to redeem them.

The Children of Israel while they were in bondage and slavery discuss the Egyptian religion as well as the different religions that surrounded them.

People, stop the foolishness and focus on yourself, your genuine prophet [Prophet Harry] and our religion, [Life] that God has perfected for us today. Islam belongs to the Arabian people. Buddhism belongs to the people of India. Christianity belongs to the European gentiles. Judaism belongs to the Jewish people. The religion, “Life” belongs to Black Americans. It is by religion that the prophet introduces his people to God. Am I making any sense to you all?

Did not Prophet Mohammed introduce the Arabian people to God through the religion of Islam? So, you could see that I am not deceiving you, am I right.

I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that black Americans could ever become a real people in this world.

Tell me what you think.


Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 12:19AM
Harry Watley
Irma, When the Father of a new world comes, he cleans house. Now you mention this balance of all things....then you mention earth. Can you answer just one thing>>>according to your sect of Buddhism, where did earth come from ? Notice I don't ask you 2, 3 or a zillion questions, but just "one".
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 9:55AM
jamal Abraham
That my point, Irma...Buddhism has a problem accounting for where earth came from.
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 2:58PM
jamal Abraham
Hello Jamal,

Now, you want Irma to answer your question. However, I have repeatedly asked you if you notice that all prophets risen up by God were the same race as the people God roast them up, am I right. For instance, Prophet Mohammed was Arab and he was risen up from the Arabian people. Therefore, what have you learned from this precedence? Is it that what God gave to the Prophet was specifically for the prophet’s people?

Let me remind you that I am just asking a question, okay.

Tell me what you think.

Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 3:09PM
Harry Watley
Hello to All,

You Negroes are all on fire about the people of India in their Buddha [Prophet], am I right.

Why it is that you Negroes cannot set yourselves on fire, if you will to have your own religion, Prophet and your take on creation? The European gentiles [Christians], Jewish people, Arabian people and now the people of India have their take on creation, so why you Negroes do not want to share with the world our take on creation. Why is it that we always want to embrace other peoples concepts and beliefs, but do not want to put out there any of our concepts and beliefs of our own? In other words, why it is that we cannot be original about religion or anything else as other people are? Probably, the reason we cannot is that we are ignorant, have low self-esteem and do not want to step out on the world stage, am I right.

Well, all this ignorance of you all is going to come to a stop. Your children, children will not be as ignorant and fearful as you all are. Am I making any sense?

Why it is that everything that belongs to another people excites you Negroes, but you cannot excites yourselves to have your own. What is mentally wrong with you all; please tell me.

What say you?

Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 5:08PM
Harry Watley
Harry, You're scratching where it don't itch

Let me help you with some understanding in lieu of your limited schooling. The Planet earth was not always comprised of the seven continents but it was just one land mass. That one land mass was called ASIA. In geologic time ( tens of thousands of years) due to pounding of bodies of oceans upon the land mass at weakened fronts it caused a breaking up and a continental drifting. Scientist have looked at the shape of the continents and using levels of solid modeling have figured how they mate together in a jig saw puzzle fashion.

Point being is that there were one people that populated the 7 continents because people came before the continental drifting. With the races and culture mixing, each continent has its slant from original. So many of these races are like our cousins. It is the white man that divided up Africa into all the names. Islam is more a natural way of life than a religion so I would not say that its author is Arab. It is the nature in which the black man lives his life.
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 8:04PM
jamal Abraham
Hello Jamal,

Jamal, I am not talking about how the Earth was 10 of thousands of years ago. I am talking about today concerning the circumstances of Black Americans. I am not talking about anything else.

My divine task is to show Black Americans the way to sovereignty or complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

Now, the wall that stands in my way and the way of Black America is Black America’s inability to rationalize and the other nonsense we have in our minds, particularly about religions. None of these religions that we embrace belongs to us.

We are not intelligently rational thinking people. We do not know how to put one concrete solution with another solution and another solution that would bring about a solid result. This is why we are always behind the eight ball. We are not pro-active thinking people.

Take you as an example; you said that Islam is a way of life. I will be damn! Islam is a religion and Islam belongs to the Arabian people. All the facts are there that would show you Islam is a religion and it belongs to the Arabian people, yet you want to say Islam is a way of life. You want to believe Islam is a way of life to justify your belief in a religion [Islam] that is not yours since you are not an Arab man, am I right. The Christians are just as ignorant. I have a very steep uphill climb in leading Black Americans to sovereignty on a portion of this continent.

We are not intelligently rational thinking people. Black Americans need to be taught how to think and rationalize. Mr. Elijah Muhammad attempted to rationalize for us by telling us that we should pool our monies together and give it to him to buy farmlands from White America, which would be the basis for our independence, am I right. Now, what Elijah said seems to make sense, but the flaw in his premise is that the farmlands will always belong to White America, consequentially; we could never have complete independence Elijah’s way. Complete independence is when Black America’s country has borders, am I right. Black Americans do not want farmlands to represent our sovereignty or independence. Do you think the world body of sovereign countries would accept Elijah Muhammad and the NOI having a few pieces of farmlands in Georgia and Alabama as a sovereign Nation of Islam? Hell no! China, White America, Japan and Britain would laugh and escort him out of the United Nations building, am I right. Mr. Elijah Muhammad was not too intelligent.

Our genuine prophet [Prophet Harry] is responsible for teaching us [Black Americans] how to rationalize. It was one of the responsibilities of the prophets to teach his people how to rationalize. Prophet Moses had to teach the Children of Israel how to rationalize, which prepared them for the Exodus. Prophet Mohammed taught the Arabian people how to rationalize and as a result, they were converted from paganism to Islam. Now, why rationalizing would be one of the responsibilities of the prophets are because their wisdom comes from God. God have made us all wise. Does that make any sense to you, Jamal?

We are going to become a sovereign people on the portion of this continent. Today we are the apple of God eye.

I am the way.

Tell me what you think.

Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 11:37PM
Harry Watley
The Planet earth was not always comprised of the seven continents but it was just one land mass.

Very well state Jamal

But let me ask you this... When (???) we constructing the Babylon Tower... That was the separation of languages which came before the separation of races?
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 11:46PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello Cynthia,

Cynthia, Black Americans has nothing to do with Babylon’s Tower. Black Americans has nothing to do with the separation of languages.

Black Americans did not exist then, am I right. Black Americans came into existence when slavery began in this country. Have I made a correct statement?

Tell me what you think.

Friday, April 16th 2010 at 12:12AM
Harry Watley
Harry.... I can say that Noah had three sons Shem, Ham and Japbeth
'And Noah begat Shem and Ham and Japheth.' That is Shem is the father of the swarthy, and Ham of the blacks, and Japheth of the whites." Then on the commentary on Gen 10:32, "...the red [smqry'] sons of Japheth,... the black sons of Ham,... and the swarthy sons of Shem."

Friday, April 16th 2010 at 12:39AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
THE BABYLON TOWER WAS BUILT AFTER THE FLOOD.... THE LANGUAGE WAS CHANGED

was an enormous tower built at the city of Babylon (Hebrew: Bavel, Akkadian: Babilu), a cosmopolitan city typified by a confusion of languages,[2] also called the "beginning" of Nimrod's kingdom. According to the biblical account, a united humanity of the generations following the Great Flood,


Friday, April 16th 2010 at 12:42AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Thank you Im glad you found it to be of value.....I hope this is what you were referreing to rearding 7 day week

A week is a time unit equal to seven days, originating in the calendar of the Jews in the 6th century BC and adopted in the Roman, Muslim and various other calendars.

For early Christians, Monday, as well as being the first day of the week, was also the spiritual eighth day, as it symbolised the new world created after Christ's resurrection. The concept of the eighth day was symbolic only and had no effect on the use of the seven-day week for calendar purposes. Justin Martyr wrote: "the first day after the Sabbath, remaining the first of all the days, is called, however, the eighth, according to the number of all the days of the cycle, and [yet] remains the first"[3]. This does not set up an 8-day week, since the eighth day is also considered to be the first day of the next cycle (i.e., not the following day).

A period of eight days, starting and ending on a Sunday or starting on a major feast day and finishing on the same day of the week a (7-day) week later, is called an octave. For centuries these were a major feature of the liturgical calendar, particularly of the Roman Catholic Church, and some are still observed, though the number of such octaves has now been radically reduced. Some modern Church uses also preserve the idea of an eight-day period, starting and finishing on the same day of the week, and retain the name "octave" for them; for example, many churches observe an annual "Octave of Prayer for Christian Unity" on 18–25 January or in the week that begins with Pentecost Sunday.

Ancient Egypt had a 10-day week, 3 weeks per month with 5 extra days at the end of the year.
Friday, April 16th 2010 at 2:58AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
SIKH
Sikhism was founded by Shri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, (1469-1538). At Sultanpur, he received a vision to preach the way to enlightenment and God. He taught a strict monotheism, the brotherhood of humanity. He rejected idol worship, and the oppressive Hindu concept of caste.

The name of the religion means learner. It is often mispronounced 'seek' It should be pronounced 'se-ikh', with the final 'kh' sound like the 'kh' in Mikhail Gorbachev.

Friday, April 16th 2010 at 9:18AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Sikh Beliefs:
Goal: The goal of every Sikh is to build a close, loving relationship with God.

Deity: Sikhs believe in a single, Formless God, with many names, who can be known through meditation. his concept is similar to Islam whose followers believe in a single God who has 99 names. The Mool Mantar, the first hymn composed by Guru Nanak, is recited daily by many Sikhs. It contains a description of many of the attributes of God: There is only one God; His Name is Truth; He is the Creator; He is without fear; He is without hate; He is beyond time (i.e. is immortal); He is beyond birth and death; He is self-existent. 1 Only he can be worshiped. Rahras, a Sikh evening prayer states:
"[O God] since I have fallen at your feet, I do not care for anybody else. I do not follow the religious ways preached by various religions believing in Ram, Mohammed, Puran or Qur'an. The Simritis, Shastras and the Vedas lay down different doctrines. But I do not recognize any of these. O God, I have written these hymns with your grace and kindness. All that has been said is in fact spoken by you." 2
Reincarnation: They believe in samsara (the repetitive cycle of birth, life and death), karma (the accumulated sum of one's good and bad deeds, and reincarnation the belief of a rebirth following death. These beliefs are similar to Hinduism.
"Each individual has many reincarnations, but being born a human means the soul is nearing the end of rebirth. God judges each soul at death and may either reincarnate the soul or, if pure enough, allow it to rest with him."

Friday, April 16th 2010 at 9:19AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
WOW!! Everyday is a learning day...
You said: Mankind was not even thought up in the mind of even God when he created the heavens and the earths

On the Sixth Day: God's last acts of Creation was that God formed man and woman.
The Seventh Day: God took his rest..

I am checking on that calendar


Friday, April 16th 2010 at 9:28AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Jamal... Im Sorry if I am taking away from your topic.... When students discover information that is interesting... It tends to sway away from the initial topic.

Irma, I'll look up the information you want and send it to you in a message....
Friday, April 16th 2010 at 9:31AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello to All,

As I, sit here pondering Black Americans. I could not help but wonder how impossible it would be without God help for us to become a real people in this world. We have so much mental **** on us, the Tower of Babylon, Buddhism, the sons of Noah, the Arabian religion of Islam and Mr. Elijah Muhammad deceased 35 years.

How could Black Americans figure out which way is out of the box? How could Black Americans figure out which way is up?

Black Americans have everything going against ourselves rather than any one thing going for us. We do not even have a mind to ask ourselves how could we be wrapped up in other people’s things and not want to have a mind to want something of our very own?

Now, am I out of my mind to think the way I do? Am I crazy to encourage Robert and Jamal to return the religion of Islam to the Arabian people? Am I wrong to say how irrational and stupid it is that you all delete my comments?

So, why it is that we cannot let go of these irrelevant nonsense to concentrate and give ourselves more attention as to how our future would be a hundred years from now.

Tell me what you think.

Friday, April 16th 2010 at 9:31AM
Harry Watley
Harry.....
How can one move forward; without knowing from whence we came? Harry, everyone who are believers IN THE ALMIGHTY has to learn, attain knowledge. Just as the 12 were assigned to SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS....

As one grows in spirit, and wisdom with the hopes to develop a close relationship with their HIGHER POWER...

If MAN REJECTED JESUS CHRIST.... AND IT WAS MEN WHOM PUT HIM TO DEATH...

As a Proclaimed Prophet... YOUR TASK IS 10 TIMES GREATER...
Friday, April 16th 2010 at 9:44AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
AND HARRY: AS PROCLAIMED PROPHET THIS STATE IS WAY OUT OF ORDER:

We have so much mental **** on us, the Tower of Babylon, Buddhism, the sons of Noah, the Arabian religion of Islam and Mr. Elijah Muhammad deceased 35 years.

Friday, April 16th 2010 at 9:47AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello Cynthia,

Why is my statement of Babylon out of order?

Yes, my task is 10 times greater. Good that you could rationalize that my task is 10 times greater.

I have to bring you all to the point to let go of what belongs [Christianity and Islam] to the European gentiles in the Arab people so you could accept your God given religion, LIFE and me, your genuine prophet. Does that make sense to you?

Tell me what you think

Friday, April 16th 2010 at 10:33AM
Harry Watley
Hello Mr. Clark,

Yes, your post of me is nothing more than criticism, jealousy and envy. All prophets despite their racial differences suffered this sort of abuse and mockery from their own people.

Sensibly speaking everyone knows that the condition of Black Americans is divine. Therefore, only God could bring Black Americans out of our dreadful condition as God brought the Children of Israel out of their dreadful conditions. To do this, the first thing that God does is to raise up a prophet from among the people, am I right. For instance, the House of Israel was in a dreadful condition that causes God to raise up Prophet Jesus to bring the Jews out of their personal dreadful condition, am I right. So, would it not be sensible, rational and intelligent that we [Black Americans] should expect and rejoice that God has done the same for us? Now, somebody has to be the prophet, whether it was Mr. Clark or I. Somebody will be in has to be the prophet. However, in this particular case, I am the prophet and perhaps Mr. Clark is upset about God choosing me.

I believe that what I am saying is true about Mr. Clark since he said this, “As I explained to Harry before, God is perfect, and He would not "raise up" a prophet with flaws as Harry has. Therefore it is impossible for Harry to be who he says he is. Even if He did God would divinely work on those flaws and the prospective prophet would show growth and improvement. In the year or so Harry has been frequenting BIA, he has shown no such improvement.”

Now, what Clark is doing is second-guessing God, which is a subjective opinion. Subjectively negative opinions are always filled with criticism, envy and jealousy with some sort of abstract reasoning why something should not have happened. You notice that Mr. Clark arbitrarily saying that even if God chose me as our genuine prophet God would have worked on my flaws that I would show some growth and improvement. He goes on to say of his own accord that I have not shown any improvement since I have been on BIA. His feelings is based on that I do not have one convert.

I am sure that he had read that quite a few BIA members agrees with me that our only permanent solution is that we decided to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent.

So, let BIA be my witness when I asked Mr. Clark this question. Mr. Clark, do you believe that sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders is the permanent answer in solution to our problems? But now, if you do not believe in your own sovereignty, then tell us what our permanent solution is?

Tell me what you think, Mr. Clark!


Saturday, April 17th 2010 at 6:28PM
Harry Watley
Irma,

I have read only the initial blog and skimmed the rest. PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT RELIGION I SHOULD BE.

Sunday, April 18th 2010 at 1:47PM
Steve Williams
Hello Clark,

Yes, I did look up the word, ’megalomania’. Megalomania is not what I am. Megalomania no more fits me than it was fit Jesus or Moses. A person that was jealous and envious of another person could easily believe this since they are not the person chosen, perhaps a person as you are to me. Understand where I am coming from? For instance, examine your mockery through this expression, “Harry, LOL!!! You say "all prophets," as if that is some kind of cottage industry,…. Do you guys have a union?”

You know well how remarkable and divine it would be that Black Americans have a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country to civilize ourselves, governing ourselves and promote our own advancement. In other words, brave the natural obstacles that nature indiscriminately and constantly hurls at every independent people to stay sovereignty and prosperous. So, why do you mock, ridicule and tried to tear me down because I want Black Americans to become a sovereign people and that God favors me if you would not jealous and envious of me?

You said that you value truth and logic. Well, what have I said that is illogical and untruthful? You went on to say that sovereignty is not something new. Well, even though it is not something new is not the point of the issue at hand. The point of the issue at hand is me [Prophet Harry] advocating and promoting that sovereignty is our only permanent solution. But not because we are subjugated people and wish not to be people belonging to White people. But because, we want to flex our brain muscle against the natural resistance of nature to succeed in advance in life if God would help us over the hurdle as God helped the children of Israel over their unnatural hurdle of Pharaoh.

Now, because Mr. Elijah Muhammad and others that went down the road of sovereignty and were not successful does not mean that the road and direction is wrong. What it means is that they were not the ones chosen, but I am. The only good way that you would know this is by noticing the wisdom and truth that I speak.

Now, before I close let me point out the flaws in your ability to reason.
You said this, “But they had credibility and substance; you don't.”

No, if they had credibility and substance they would have been successful. Moses, had credibility, substance, and he was successful, am I right.

Next you said this, “"Sensibly speaking" there is no logic that says there must be a prophet.”
Of course, there must be a prophet since our situation is divine from the very onset. One people making another people mental and physical slaves to them is a divine situation.
The children of Israel experience our specific situation and if it were not for the hand of God Pharaoh would have kept them as they were, am I right. I would be as you are if God had not chosen me, woke me up, and filled me with inspiration and insight to wake the rest of you all up I would be as mentally dead as you all are. Does that make any sense to you?
So, when I say that I am wiser than all of you and White America are is not “megalomania” but common sense. For instance, if God had not made Moses wiser than all the Hebrew people and Pharaoh were how could Moses have led the children of Israel out of Pharaoh’s grip? Obviously, Moses could not. Therefore, all of you should rejoice that God has intervened in our affairs that we become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Other wise, we will always be a people belonging to White American people.

Even if White America offers us everything we ever wanted and could imagined we should still refuse since that direction would not afford us what we must have, which is to brave the natural obstacles of nature. In addition, we would never know what it is like to be one people and to govern ourselves and have the body of the world to look on us and say how remarkable of a people Black Americans has become. We do not want to live in the shadows of White America. We want to cast our own shadows. We want to have our own prophet as the European gentiles have Jesus as their prophet. As the Arabian people have their own prophet, Prophet Mohammed. We want to have our own religion as all other people have theirs. Why is this so difficult for you to understand, Mr. Clark?

Tell me what you think.







Sunday, April 18th 2010 at 10:39PM
Harry Watley
Big Mann Clark... Thanks... You Know I like Harry.... But I see I am going to have to put Harry down... He's too confrontational....
Sunday, April 18th 2010 at 10:45PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello Cynthia,

Well, you know that all prophets were confrontational and they had to be since they came to change things.

So, when you say that I am confrontational inadvertently you are saying that I am who I say I am, otherwise you all would have been able somehow to show that I am wrong, am I right. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet that will lead us into sovereignty on the portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Now, is that not confrontational?

Tell me what you think.

Sunday, April 18th 2010 at 11:04PM
Harry Watley
Hello Jamal,

When you notice that, a growing number of Black Americans are attracted to Buddhism it is an indication of our foolishness, our ignorance. We seem mentally unable to make the connection that prophet and people are racially matched, and there is a reason for it. Do you not see for yourself that God matching the Prophet to his own people is orderly and intelligent?


For instance, Buddha was Indian and his people are of India. Prophet Mohammed was Arab and his people are Arabian. Black Americans are the most ignorant people since they do not want a prophet of their own kinds, but would gladly accept a prophet of another race. That is pure out right self-hatred, am I right.

For example, Mr. Elijah Muhammad accepting the foreigner [Mr. Fard Muhammad] is a strong indication of Mr. Elijah’s ignorance. Then Elijah goes on to advocate and promote self-awareness and do for yourself, but at the same time Elijah has submitted to the foreigner [Mr. Fard Muhammad] and Islam, which is not of Elijah’s kinds. Elijah was born a Black American and died a Black American. Should not Elijah have accepted his own kinds, our own religion in our own religious book instead of the Arabian people’s stuff? How ignorant do you think it is that a foreigner [Mr. Fard Muhammad] could teach us [Black Americans] who we are? Should it not have been one of us to teach us who we are as I have taught you that you are a Black American and not an African or any Asiatic Black man, whatever kind of man that is? Am I making any sense with you?

I know who we are because God taught me and opened my eyes to who we are. My wisdom comes directly from God. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet.

Tell me what you think.




Sunday, April 18th 2010 at 11:10PM
Harry Watley
Irma... Yes, I've heard that expression oh so many times.... I like Harry, but Im beginning to wander if Harry likes himself.

Amen!! We are unperfect... And yes.. I try to do better each day. So Im going to say my prayers and get ready for a nother Blessed day.
Monday, April 19th 2010 at 12:29AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello Irma,

You should take your own advice and what I mean by that is this. You showed yourself to be nasty and ignorant to have deleted my comments on your blog. But, now you want to make the excuse that you had not perfect. Well hell, tried it be perfect. Try to be better and not nasty. Try to be smarter and not ignorant.

Who the hell wants to waste their time posting on your blog and you would constantly delete the comment. Only ignorant people do that.

Jamal seems to have stopped. Ms. Jen Fad stopped. However, you have not stopped.

I love Black people but I very much dislike their stupidity and ignorance. But anyway, these things about us are going to change.


Monday, April 19th 2010 at 12:32AM
Harry Watley
Hello Robert,

It is unacceptable to me that you should use excuses that you used littles' [Jamal] lack of English comprehension and lack of proof reading.

Stand up on your own two feet and not blame anything that you did on Jamal, okay.

So take back what you said and acknowledge that a Nigerian is biologically, genetically and hereditarily different from a Swedish person, period.

What say you?

Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 8:44AM
Harry Watley
Irma...thanks for the additional information source on Buddhism that I was not aware of...since then have been on site at WWW. SGI-USA.ORG and learned a lot


Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 9:44AM
jamal Abraham
Hello Jamal,

Why should you be learning about other people and not yourself since we are a subjugated people in White America?

Do you believe that what ever you learn concerning another people racially different could possibly bring Black Americans sovereignty or complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way?

So when are we going to take an interest in ourselves beyond what Mr. Elijah Muhammad, Dr. King and Mr. Marcus Garvey did?

Is not Buddhism for the people of India and we are not Indians, am I right.

Tell me what you think.

Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 5:59PM
Harry Watley
Hello Cynthia,

Yes, I like myself, but I love Black Americans more. Moses liked himself. However, Moses loved the children of Israel more. God saw this in his very DNA, which was one of the most important reasons that God chose him.

Jesus liked himself. However, Jesus had loved the house of Israel more in the beginning of his prophet-hood. Am I making any sense with you?

Tell me what you think.

Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 6:03PM
Harry Watley
Harry I will no longer have this discussion with u. I told you from the very start of our conversation I will not get into religion... What I was taught are my beliefs...NOT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE going to push what he/she believes on me.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 7:36PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Learning another culture so as to effectively conduct trade and engage politically is a matter of good sense since we share the planet earth. Our becoming a new nation in Africa does not mean the end of Far Eastern Culture. And since more black Americans have embraced Buddhism as their religion, it is a matter of diplomacy and defense to understand what it is, that attracts them to it.

Cynthia, you are wasting your time to try to reason with "Harry". There are hundreds of personalities on BIA....I would not let the idiocracy of Harry raise your stress....he has no meaning behind him.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 8:58PM
jamal Abraham
Jamal I'm interested in learning different cultures... That's very important when dealing with of people in general.

I'm ok.... ;-) Thanks for the encouraging words... I'm so done with Harry he can preach to the wall...
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 9:46PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello Jamal,

I understand your point. You said this, “Learning another culture so as to effectively conduct trade and engage politically is a matter of good sense since we share the planet earth.”

This tells me that you no intentions of becoming a Buddhist. Of course, you know that I am against Black Americans wanting to patronize or suck up to other people by being what they are when in reality they cannot.

For instance, all of 41 million Black Americans a vast percentage are followers of Arabian people. They took the Arabian people’s religion, Al Islam. They took the Arabian people’s Ramadan, the Arabian’s Holy Quran, am I right. A bigger percentage is followers of European gentile Christian religion. They have taken the European’s baptism, the Jewish man [Jesus the Christ] as their prophet. They [Black Americans] have taken Easter and Good Friday into their bosom. Consequentially, you could see that we are a mentally dead and messed-up people as the children of Israel were when Moses came to redeem them, am I right. Few are Buddhists. Some are Rastafarians.

However, none of these religions came to Black Americans as how genuine religions come to a people.

What I mean is that an authentic religion comes to a people from God through a genuine prophet. For instance, Islam is an authentic religion and it came to the Arabian people from God through a genuine prophet, Prophet Mohammed, am I right. Take another example, Judaism is an authentic religion and it came to the Hebrew people from God through a genuine prophet, Prophet Abraham.

Therefore, no religions that Black Americans practices are Black America’s religion, since Black America’s genuine prophet had not given Black Americans those religions such as Islam and Christianity. Black America’s authentic religion is, LIFE. Naturally, we will have a difficult time accepting our own religion and genuine prophet since we were taught not to accept anything of our own or look like us, which is a form of self-hating. Am I making any sense with you?

Nevertheless, I understand your point and it is well taken that learning another culture is important if we are going to be a sovereign people. On that note I believe it would be best that we secure our sovereignty first, which is going to take many years to understand, but God will bring us together as a God brought the children of Israel together. Therefore, our energy should be put towards understanding why we are going to become a sovereign people and why our sovereignty must be a portion of this continent and nowhere else.

Tell me what you think.

Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 11:07PM
Harry Watley
Hello Cynthia,

Your feelings towards me are fine with me. If I seem difficult to you it is not because I am, it is because your mind is receiving something new and cannot quite grasp it yet. I will step back until you grow a little more and wait for you to address me once again, okay.

In the interim, follow my responses to others.



Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 11:13PM
Harry Watley
AND, I WILL REPEAT ONE MORE TIME..."THERE ARE 142 BUDDHIST PRACTICES / RELIGIONS IN AMERICA ALONE...ME, i PRACTICE NICHIREN DASHIONIN AND, IF ANYONE IS WANTING TO DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH ON THE THEY CAN GO TO WWW. SGI-USA.ORG.

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TAKE THEMSELVES OUT OF THE CONTROL OF THEIR OWN LIVES, PLEASE DON'T EVEN WASTE ANY OF YOUR VALUABLE TIME AND ENERGY...OR ANY ONE WhO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONLY A RIGHT, CORRECT/ WRONG, NEGATIVE WAY TO DO ANY THING THE SAME THINGS GOES FOR THEM ALSO...AND, THat YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY EXPERT ON YOUR OWN SELF, THE SAME...(smile)

thank you Jamal for allowing me this chance to try and dialogue on your blog on Buddhism. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Brother Thumper, when "I" say that the individual is the only expert on themselves..."I" MEAN IT. (smile)

The only thing "I" ever try to 'advise' anyone to do is to be the best person they can be and to be responisble for the 110% of affect-effect that put into -on their environment. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
See my sister that is the point I am getting at...Mankind was not even thought up in the mind of even God when he created the heavens and the earths, and the math we use was invented by the people of Arabia who were not Christians and each social cultrue changes the calander back and forth...And, by the way do you have any idea how non Christian, but, "pagen "the names of the week, months are...hell even our Christian holidays are???!?

Actually there is a program I watch often on one of the science network that have programs on that discusses things in the Bible with the helpof science using that time in history, it is like being in a time machine...as I am only about learning new things I love watching it...

by the way the person who delivered my meds from the drug store today was a SIKH and I learned from him something I have never even heard of BEFORE...HE SAID HIS RELIGION HAS NEVER EVER CHANGED AS IN HAVING BROKEN OFF TO FORM ANOTHER KIND/ form OF THIS RELIGION. hE WILL TELL ME MORE EACH TIME HE COMES BY.AND, I AM SO INTERESTED IN THIS...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Cynthia, have you ever heard that expression, "CAN'T SEE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES"?!?

THIS MAY HELP IN NOT SEEING hARRY IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT.BECAUSE, HOPEFULLY ONE DAY, WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT bLACK aMERICANS, HE MAY START TO BELIEVE HE IS NOT wHITE NOR GOD, BUT AS UNPERFECT AS WE ALL ARE TRYING TO BECOME BETTER EVERY DAY THAN WE WERE THE DAY BEFORE TODAY. lol (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Cynthia, you use of the name Ham helps me with being able to add to what Clark just said and it has a lot to do with my nature to ask questions...when, I was a practicing Catholic, I used the seek and find a lot to keep me from "going straight to hell" (smile) example, by what calander do we measure the 7 days?!?


And, the name Ham always remindes me of what I get out of sduting different religions....south Africa is made of the the majority race are Luthrens who uses their Bible's reports of H-A-M to justify the bondage of the Africans. we were not alive when the bible was used to keep our people in bondage, but we sure were alive for South Africa9 and please take special notes of when "I" talk about the HOLY BIBLE THIS WAY "I" AM TALKING ABOUT THE A-B-U-S-E OF RELIGION TO SATISFY THE E-G-O and, in N.D. Buddhism we call this being in tHE lower 4 worlds !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(smile)

1. Hell...2. Hunger...3. Animality...4. Anger...

tHANK YOU SO MUCH jAMAL FOR CLARK BEING ABLE TO GIVE TOSE TEACHING MOMENTS...YOU SEE I JUST LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT BUDDHISM I NEVER KNEW BEFORE. (smile)


so many things have to do with only ONE SIDE HAVING ALL OF THE ANSWERS...AND WHEN THIS ORDER OF EXISTANCE GETS off balance like someone saying hell now I want a say in my happiness aka CIVIL RIGHTS....balance...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Oh, and your comment about me having such and OPEN MIND, I can ask many questions, this is because to mee this is dilogiueing...as seeing life is a process of ever moving and hcaniging and vierity of many different things...or maybe it is just the idea that one size question does not cover all answers and maybe someone else in more interested in something different than what a closed mind has to offer...that persons out look on all tings and no one else's input is allowed/ acepted...who knows...this is a statement jamal and not another question...I don't like making others uncomfortable to make me happy (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
... BUT, AGAIN jAMAL, YOU AND "i" ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT THE SAME KIND OF balance...say like communication as does society there must be at least 2 people doing not the same things...ONE TO SEND AND ONE TO RECIEVE WHAT IS BEING SENT...(smile)

but, you like Harry refuse to accept any things being SENT...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Jamal, "the only stupid question is the unasked question" If you notice "I" have never asked you if your needs to call what history and the law calls 'religion' you call a sect has to do with fear of the acceted truth, reality or just the need to recreat in your own image"...

I only know how to answer your question on where did the earth come from the already saying...the Christian teachings (or SECT) says, "seek and ye shall find"..N.D. Buddhism says, "as no one person can know EVERYTHING never stop learning"...or dialoging as is being done on his question, new and emproved egineering tech, math, statistics, physics, sects / religion, progress never changing because one of the naturl behaviors of mankind (maybe not your version)is to all ways be curious and wanting to see more tomorrow tahn is possible today...

(S-M-I-L-E)EVEN IF YOU HAVE NO WAY TO UNDERSTAND ThaT YOU ARE SEEKING SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE NO POWER OVER (?) FROM ME....EVENTHOUGH YOUR EGO TELLS YOU TAHT YOU ALREADY HAVE THE ANSWER BEFORE YOU ASK THE QUESTION.LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
boy, Jamal, I see you are really good, now you are over cleaning up and straightening out the mega-christian churches...what next the catholic church, the Pope may not have any cleaning up for you to do because he has his church in his private Nation...may be a littl penus envy there 'so to speak' looooool???? (S-M-I=L=E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
And, may "I" say that no matter what form of Buddhism on practices they all have the same things in common: all things must be in balance...all things, people and places have a unity with the known and the know UNIVERSE and direct ties to EARTH, WIND, WATER AND FIRE...That the individual will be alive death after death and life after life as life and death are themselves a BALANCE...this seem to be lacking in your form of Buddhism, Am I correct?!? (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Jamal, "I" am talking about the Buddhism that was created by Shakyamuni, is this by any chance the one you are speaking of?!?

Please forgive me if I am talking about a totally different kind of Buddhism. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
IN OTHRES WORDS JAMAL YOU LIKE HARRY HAVE SAID AND HAVE GIVEN SRGUMENTS THAT HAS CANCELLED MY BUDDHIST PRACTICE COMPLETELY OUT OF EXISTANCE...BUT, THEN THE TWO OF YOU ARE THEONES WHO IS GOING TO MAKE ALL LIFE WORTH LIVING, RIGHT?!? (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
AS USUAL THE POINT IF TOTALLY MISSED...the all of one shoe fits ALL Buddhist faith / beliefs is to say they you and Harry have witped out the whole of the Muslim religions beliefs and history in what you are doing. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Thank you my daughter and sister in spirit for stepping up to be counted even in fhe face of the "enemy" to your powers of self love, esteem and respect.


Unlimited powers towards, UNITY and PEACE on earth...
(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
i HAVE ONLY STOPED BY TO SAY IT IS SO GOOD TO HAVE YOU AND HARRY ON THE SAME PAGE DEFINING "ALL THINGS", because it reminds me of little things called freedoms: like freedom of speech, will to think and to even disagree....on things like being right/ being wrong. ect. loooooooooooooooooooool (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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