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Islam brought Black Africans.....Africans....original Asiatics....Black Americans ....MONOTHEISM.....brought schools and apreciation for Math and Sciences...and a prominent history....self reliance....self ownership....the entrepreneural spirit.....and the LOVE OF SELF...continues today Judaism brought Black Africans..exploitation of Diamonds..continues today..Empirialims...continuous....Black Americans love to buy diamonds...exploits ancestors mining diamond mines....Judaism....gives blacks pennys for diamonds in Africa...pennies for black Americans for Goods at PAWN SHOPS. ...continues today Christianity brought black Americans slavery, hanging, lynching and jim crow. it brought Black Americans the Trinity....3 Gods in One......THe Christian religion created Uncle Toms....and fostered blacks hating themselves and loving their enemy...continues today
Posted By: jamal Abraham
Saturday, July 24th 2010 at 11:10PM
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Saint:...............Judaism as a religion has exploited and continuous to exploit Black Africans and Black Americans. Black are clearly not winners and to be used if history serves any lesson to us. My guidance come from Allah (God) and not people that say one thing one day then 25 years later say something else. Its like changing with the wind...but what does scripture...that what is important....what does history tell us....that is what is important.....You ask me to give credence to a musician over Moses, David and Abraham of Scripture. Men of science are not so easily swayed. Science lessons build nations .....history lessons allow for discussion.....we have had the history lesson...now, it is time for Black Americans to get something done......like establish a nation of their own.......IN OUR HOMELAND....AFRICA
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 12:59AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello to All,
Jamal you said this, “Islam brought Black Africans.....Africans....original Asiatics....Black Americans ....MONOTHEISM.....brought schools and apreciation for Math and Sciences...and a prominent history....self reliance....self ownership....the entrepreneural spirit.....and the LOVE OF SELF...continues today”
However, the actual question is when will Black Americans rationalize in terms of bringing and get something for ourselves. In other words, we should want something that we could say this is ours and we did not get it from the Arab people. When will Black Americans not depend on having anything from another race of people, be they Arabs, Europeans or Jewish people?
Saint Jake deal comes from the Bible. He claims an angel came down from heaven and hand-delivered the Bible to Jesus. When will we stop thinking this way and begin to think of having something that is not associated with another race of people. In other words, just the name children of Israel is associated with another people even if you try to say that the children of Israel are Black when you know damn well they are not Black as Black Americans are. It just baffles me how stupid of a people that we are.
Why it is that God cannot give us what God gave the Arab people? Why it is that you could rationalize so inferior to yourself and consider Arabian people superior to Black Americans? Why would you want to observe Ramadan when you know you are not an Arab man? Therefore, why would you not want God to give us something of our own as Ramadan to the Arab people is or the Passover to the Jewish people is? Why do we always have to be practicing other people’s rituals? Black Americans practiced the European ritual of Easter. So why it is that we cannot look to God to give us something of our own to practice.
Just to think and accept that the last prophet is an Arab would psychologically and inadvertently make you, Jamal inferior to the Arabian people. It just seems to me that you all would go for anything as long as it is not your own.
Do you not believe that Black America’s religion, LIFE is monotheism as the Arab religion of Islam and the Jewish people’s religion of Judaism is?
Why in your mind Black Americans has to accept what belongs to other people?
What say you?
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 1:33AM
Harry Watley
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AlHamdullillahi RabilAlaameen,
Now on this Historical and Scholastic Blog, Mr. Jamal Abraham has ENDED the Conversation.
I would only add, AlIslaam has brought ALL of the Above Mercy; to the Entire World, the Entire Family of Adaam.
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 7:38AM
robert powell
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During the Black Nationalism movement at the turn of the 21st century, think of the influential figures in the United States produced by Islam. There was Nobel Drew Ali, Master Fard Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson. Each of these figures were models of greatness in their area and had a positive impact of civil rights in America.
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 12:39PM
jamal Abraham
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I apologize Jamal for the comment by the paganChristian Saint to me above.
she/he/ it pests me.
That you could have deleted.
America is Lead by President Baraka Hussein Obama, I enjoy him and I share many things with him, I love my brothers All over the World. Each day I share my living with Africa, my wife and children, America, my wife and children, Bosnia, my wife and children and yes I intend to make Umra this Shar Ramadhan and if Allaah pleases again touch HajarAlAswad...................they will not allow kissing HajarAlAswad anymore as the saliva has caused some issues with HajarAlAswad......
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 1:18PM
robert powell
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Oh that was nice.... Robert and also for Jamal not to delete your comment... but of course... If you direct your disapproval at Jamal.... YOU are bound to get DELETED! Ha!
OR perhaps, my brother Jamal is becoming more open to other's opinions.
UNLIKE THAT JACKAZZ WUSS.... HARRY.... whom makes statements of lies and foolishness!
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 1:55PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Teach and Educate brothers! We have much to learn about religion, creation, and teachings!
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 1:56PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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On that note.... PRE Dr. Redd Head... has an Exam on the Nervous and Sensory Organ System she has to prepare for; Tomorrow.... wish me luck... and a prayer won't hurt either!
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 1:58PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Jamal and Saint... you brothers are 100% CORRECT!!!
Harry and Robert...you guys are in dire need of Ritalin!!!
Pre Dr. Redd Head...good luck on your exam sis!!!
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 2:19PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Jake you ain't never lied about that...you beat Robert like a pinata!!!
Hey, maybe we could use Robert for Mexican birthday parties...we can even call him Senor Pinata...Hola Senor Pinata!!!
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 2:41PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Hello to All,
Again, when will Black Americans reach out to want something from God for ourselves? Black Americans cannot have what belongs to the Arabian people and expect to prosper spiritually and physically. Black Americans are not Arabian people.
When Allah visited the Arabian people 1400 years ago and rose up Prophet Mohammed, the visit did not mean that God visited Black Americans as well. Likewise, when God visited the Jewish people and rose up Prophet Jesus, the visit did not mean that God visited Black Americans as well. Am I making any sense?
However, God visited Black Americans approximately 2 years ago. Our time had come that God should fix our problem of subjugation and not having a country of our own. God have raised up a prophet for us, that prophet has perfected our religion, LIFE, and our religious book of guidance is forthcoming. Consequentially, we no longer have to suck up behind other people. We could now give back Islam to the Arabian people and Christianity to the European gentiles. Am I may can any sense with you all?
Tell me what you think. Usually the things that I say are untouchable, am I right.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 3:28PM
Harry Watley
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Jamal,
Realistically, I believe I have informed you that I am most thankful for the Active, Innovative Minds that have produced ease for The Family of Adaam with their Scientific Discoveries.
I would not have been given the Mercy of Allaah; in this life, without Modernity and this Great Scientific Era.
My issues in the past with you, center around the things that come from nonScholastic or Historical Thinking.
As you have seen, over and over again, harry comes from....What? MADNESS--no scholarship or history.
And this Saint, with AmenerSiebra prove my point. They also come from What? Madness......and CartoonCentral........
these Deceivers are destroyers, monsters that make the ghettos of America and the prisons of America grow.......
how in the world could a sMuhammad amen a saint Jake?
cause they both are colorWorshippers and they are lazy, they will not work to develop a society, so they are crabs and cartoons.......
The challenges that you had to overcome in Engineering; the physics, the calculus, the chemistry, and their superior subjects are things a siebraSaint consider; "trying to be white"-
The competition you have had in Universities and the American Engineering Community have been challenges that I know you relished and Worked Hard At, everyday.
siebraSaint want to retreat in their, "black" world and cry-"they will not let us succeed cause they are "white""
---please the only white that will always defeat them is the white paper of challenging books and challenging computer screens......
how dare a saint denigrate AlIslaam and HajarAlAswad and the Work of Musa, Ibraheem and Mohamed(asm)?
---HajarAlAswad beckons the First Man---Adaam(as) and His Family and represents The Civilization that the Creator-AlKhalaq, ArRahmaan has given the Believer.
YaAllaah---Al Kaaba, the Shelter that Adaam, Ibraheem, Ismaeel, and Mohamed(as) constructed, is the direction of the Believers of Our Planet.....
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 3:46PM
robert powell
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HEE HEE!!!
Sorry Robert I wasn't laughing at you I was thinking about Micheal Jackson...
HEE HEE!!!
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 3:56PM
Siebra Muhammad
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HEE HEE...Down Goes Frazier!!!
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 6:37PM
Siebra Muhammad
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typical ignorant shayateen,
This Blog, is Authored by Jamal Abraham. You two; he/she/it--do not address the Great Subject Jamal Printed, you do not even address respectfully Jamal---you address me, why?
How rude, how ghetto and frazier, heeh, mj--
nothing to do with the Importance of AlIslaam in the Development of America.
You never mention that an African Muslim Male produced for America, its greatest democratic leader, the greatest leader that the paganEuropeanChristians have EVER had. President Baraka Hussein Obama---
This is the BARAKA of Allaah on this Nation that has had a Demonic past, and has spawned Demonic negro and caucasian paganChristians.
negro and caucasian paganChristians that have NO idea what the Scripture of AlQur'aan, AtTaurat, and AlIngeel; say---
they are too absorbed in the Decadence of selfWorth---just as the CalfWorshippers who had seen a spectacular Miracle with Musa(as)---only a while before, but did not have the Baraka of Allaah to even accept AlKhalaq, they just wanted their trinkets.----the farakhans, the billy grahams, the popes who do not speak or understand the Original Languages of Scripture or the Prophets of Allaah--yet they use a paganEnglish language to pull JUNK out of the Air.
I am a humble old man, actually somewhat lazy, but I did know Our Father Elijah Muhammad; I did learn with His sons and Family; I did learn Arabic, AlQur'aan and Sunnah of Mohamed(as) from the Sheikh of AlHajj AbdulMaleek AsShabazz in Egypt and many other Great Sheikhs of AlIslaam in The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, AlMagreed and AsShams over the years. I did lead farakhanMadoff in prayer, and I have just been around a long time studying languages and receiving the Baraka and Mercy of Allaah.
As for your negroid comments to me, ok- I, expect nothing important from Cartoons.
But do at least show some civility to the Blogger, Jamal.
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 7:15PM
robert powell
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Hello to All,
Why do you all constantly talk about things that are not relevant to Black Americans?
For instance, you all talk about Islam, the Tribe of Levi, Ishmael’s people, HajarAlAswad, Mr. Master Fard Muhammad etc.
When will a light bulb go off in our heads to desire to have something of our own from God and not ride the coattail of the Arabian people accepting their religion of Islam? Do you all get my drift?
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 10:35PM
Harry Watley
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Ishmael's plight to Africa brough Abrahams seed to that continent. The story of Ishmael is much the story of Black Americans. Raised with his natural father, Ishmael relied on the strength from his mother, Hagar ( a woman of bondage). Much like black Americans were raised my a bondage parent. Allah (God) could have left Ishmael to die of thirst but Hagar pleaded with God to not let her eyes witness the death of her son. Then too, that was Abraham son. So the One God of the Universe produced a well of water out of a desert so that Ishmael might live. Much like Allah(God) made a way for Islam to come to America in order that Ishmael's seed could live.....meaning Black Americans needed to know of Islam to learn a thorough knowledge of themselves and what must be done at this time in history.
Sunday, July 25th 2010 at 10:45PM
jamal Abraham
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Point being, Saint......is that Abraham seed was in Africa thru Ishmael is a FACT of history and scripture. We black Americans came from Africa.....dah.
It is no hearsay or guessing that Ishmaelites became involved as victims in the slave trade. And now here we are. Almighty God has been following the sojourn of Ishmael's seed ever sense the expulsion to Africa.
Monday, July 26th 2010 at 7:07AM
jamal Abraham
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Again,
Jamal should be respected for the direction of HIS Blog.
The Importance of AlIslaam in the Development of America.
Jamal and I have lived in Egypt. Jamal and I could be mistaken, until we open our mouths, as Egyptians.
In my conversations with Egyptians, Pharonic historians say they had NO record of enslaving anyone, especially jews.
Musa was raised as a son of Pharoah and became his heir, All Monotheistic people KNOW this historical fact. So 3-4 Thousand years later WE, (saintSiebra, color worshippers-etc.) should be able to say logically and reasonably, if we believe that, there were NO physical differences in "the children of MIISRAEL and Pharoahs.
There were believers in Monotheistic Thought in Pharoahs time. Musa started off as Pharoah, not a Believer.
AlQur'aan is resplendent with the story of Musa(as) because Musa was one of the Greatest of Servants of The Creator, AlKhalq
may allaah have mercy on me if I make a mistake, in meaning of translation from arabic to english
Sûrat Al-Qasas (The Narration) XXVIII 28
1. Tâ-Sîn-Mîm
[These letters are one of the miracles of AlQur’âan, and none but Allâah knows their meanings].
2. These are the Verses of the manifest Book (that makes clear truth from falsehood, good from evil).
3. We recite to you some of the news of Mûsâ and Fir‘aun (Pharaoh) in truth, for a people who believe AlQur’âan, and in the Oneness of Allâah-Monotheism.
4. Truly, Fir‘aun deified himself in the land and made its people sects: weakening some, and oppressing a group, the Children of Israel among them: killing their sons, and letting their females live. Truly, he was of the Mufsidûn (those who commit great sins and crimes, oppressors, tyrants).
7. And We inspired the mother of Mûsâ: "Suckle Mûsâ,but when you fear for him, then cast him into the river and fear not, nor grieve. Truly, We shall bring him back, and shall make him one of Our Messengers."
43. And indeed We gave Mûsâ - after We had destroyed the Old generations -the Scripture [the Taurât (Torah)] as an Enlightenment for mankind, and a guidance and a mercy, that they might remember (or receive admonition).
Sûrat Yûnus (Jonah) X
83. But none believed in Mûsâ except the offspring of his people, because of the fear of Fir‘aun and his chiefs, lest they should persecute them; and verily, Fir‘aun (Pharaoh) was an arrogant tyrant on the earth, he was indeed one of the Musrifûn (polytheists, sinners and transgressors, those who give up the truth and follow the evil, and commit all kinds of great sins).
87. And We revealed to Mûsâ and his brother (saying): "Provide dwellings for your people in Egypt, and make your dwellings as places for your worship, and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât ), and give glad tidings to the believers."
88. And Mûsâ said: "Our Lord! You have indeed bestowed on Fir‘aun and his chiefs splendour and wealth in the life of this world, our Lord! that they may lead men astray from Your Path. Our Lord! Destroy their wealth, and harden their hearts, so that they will not believe until they see the painful torment."
even yusuf(as) joseph was successful in Egypt.
Sûrat Yûsuf---[(Prophet) Joseph) ] XII
54. And the king said: "Bring him to me that I may attach him to my person." Then, when he spoke to him, he said: "Verily, this day, you are with us high in rank and fully trusted."
55. [Yûsuf-Joseph] said: "Set me over the store-houses of the land; I will indeed guard them with full knowledge" as a minister of finance in Egypt
Scholarship and Historical Fact should be based on Original Language, , Context, Time and Effect on The Family of Adaam.....
Monday, July 26th 2010 at 12:50PM
robert powell
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@Jamal Abraham / Saint Jake /
Just beeing cerious , whats the origian of Islam ? the yeas it started ? how it started, and why it got started
Monday, July 26th 2010 at 4:44PM
Sylvainy R
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Bro. Soso...the origins of Islam goes back before there were recordings, when black scientists put the sun in space to warm the planets. The One God found man very desirous to worship him, they did know exactly what to do. Nothing could they find to match the power and force of water. And the exotic animals. Then there were the plants so man gave names for the wonderful facets of life. Man worshipped the sea. And man worshipped animals and begin to fashion materials into shapes for focusing their worship. So much time and devotion were given to these objects that it took TIME away from man worshipping the God of the Universe. So God thought best to give man a religion for directing his worship.......but it could not be made up, it would have to be natural....so God gave man his very own nature as his religion and called it Islam. Written Islam began with Prophet Muhammad of Arabia about 1400 years ago..... but unwritten Islam dates back to the times of Noah.
Monday, July 26th 2010 at 11:43PM
jamal Abraham
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Saint...sometimes you give the notion that Arabs have a history of abusing Blacks. Actually, when the Arabs brought Islam into Africa to near 3/4 the continent the conquests meant much better treatment to former black slaves of European colonists. For example, the English, Portuguese and German treated black slaves inhumane like animals. When Arabs conquered much of Africa, they allowed black slaves to intermingle and mesh into their civilization. They could go to the schools and universities and involve themselves with innovations in science and astronomy. Arabs have a history of bringing Islam which emphasized Monotheism which freed up time for blacks Africans so they could think about doing something for themselves. My book goes deep into this......sure there are the snobs of every race.....but for sure, Arabs respected intelligence in not just their race but the black race. But, tell me, my dear Saint....who likes dealing with a dumb fool.....in any race......if black people not going to get an education ....and just want to act ignorant...then what race cares about them.......so please do not expect the Arabs to respect a people acting uncivilized no more than you.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 1:24AM
jamal Abraham
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saintjake again you disrespect Jamal Abraham, if you wish to confuse BIA Preamble, or AlIslaam or attack Me--ok---- do it on my blog---not Jamals......
Islaam,
Soso is an english Transliteration of an Arabic word that means,
"The Way of Life-Montheism, that The Creator of Adaam and Creation, had intended for all of the Creation, living, forces of living, non living-everything that IS, is in the State of AlIslaam." The Genesis of Creation......
There, of course, are many languages that men/women have taken and AlIslaam is the Story of Adaam(as) and His Family; through all Their Scripture and all The Prophets and Messengers of the Creator from the beginning of Adaams' time to the Completion of Scripture and Messengers with Mohamed(as)--1431+ years ago.
An example of Language----languages have many alphabets, sounds, etc.
Adaam is an English Transliteration, and in the Arabic Language is a proper name, AND it also means in English -- The Human Being......
the Cartoon Saint Jake, "researches'----Edomite?
What is Edomite? What Language is it from? What Alphabet?
He/She/It wants BIA to get some, Scholarship? out of He/She/It's writing?
Based on Scholarship, I would say; OK,
Edomite probably comes from Hebrew Language, and since Hebrew has a different Alphabet than English;
I can Intellectually conclude, as hebrew, aramaic, and Arabic are languages of the same root and alphabet, that Edomite is Adaamite.........
So the Muslim has no problem with Original Scholarship and Genesis.
SaintJake seems to want to confuse; he/she/ it's readers should know where he/she/its reference comes from; and then can make a reasonable Intelligent Decision on he/she/its' "information"........
My personal opinion of he/she/its' "information"........is: typical paganChristian Thought---Diversion from Monotheistic Adaamite or Edomite----- Islaam into TRITHEISTIC paganChristian----colorWorshipping.
Scientifically, Biologically, Genetically, Archeologically, Historically, etc.;
The Family of Adaam in 2010 knows that skinColor cannot think;
that men the World Over are Physcially Twins and Family, no matter what Continent they live in 2010.....
'blackthis, whitethat'; as chronicalled even here by Clark, Earl, Steve and others is a culturalled divisive mechanism,
"highlighted" with European interaction with non Europeans from 1200-2010.......
----european pagan and christian elements tried to justify their Demonic behaviours to the Family of Adaam with the making of TriTheistic Adaams---"white, black and...."-----this theme persists in the simplistic Negro reading of King James Version bible in english;
content, definitions and translations from and with PaganThought.......
Cartoons--- saintJake-sarah palin, jessejackson, billy grahman, hitler, are the result of that Thought---
Again, Egyptians-Mostly Muslim and some coptic christian and jewish----know pharoah better than most, they have had a written language for some time. They did not enslave anyone, they were a conquering people, and if they had immigrant workers in their society for 500+ years from the north, east, down the Nile and West
----they were Logically Representative Physically of All of The Earth in 100+ degree sandy geography; they had monotheistic thought, but mainly pagan Pharoahic Diety worship.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 7:50AM
robert powell
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Saint>>>I speak of the Ishmaelites and you speak of the Edomites. It is obvious that the Arabs are blessed, they are on top of most of the world's oil. And every industrialized country wants oil. American cannot even defeat the Taliban so how do you propose anyone can destroy the Arabs. It could never be done. Read the Quran is one thing but to "understand" the Holy Quran is another. Anyone that reads the Quran and looks for basic truths from it.....It says that the Jews will burn in a lake of fire. That is ONE thing that you can get out of reading and understanding the Quran. Actually, you should figure out your enemy. Your enemy, Saint, is the blue eyed devil...not the Arabs.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 9:23AM
jamal Abraham
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@Bro: Jamal Abraham
Please forgive me I’m trying to understand what is it you’re saying, with the exception of and I quote you (God gave man his very own nature as his religion and called it Islam. Written Islam began with Prophet Muhammad of Arabia about 1400 years ago..... but unwritten Islam dates back to the times of Noah)
I’m not grasping the it My question is: what’s the origin of Islam ? the yeas it started ? how did it get started, and why it got started,,,, (Also on the map where is Egypt) located
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 9:33AM
Sylvainy R
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Bro: Robert Powell
Linguistically speaking I’m man enough to say I’m out of my league when it comes to language/ Linguistic, However I do agree we must understand language and its origin in order to get to the root of some of the things that has and still affecting African people but correct me if wrong language is not the answer to my question which ,,,My question is: what’s the origin of Islam ? the yeas it started ? how did it get started, and why it got started and to add,,,, (Also on the map where is Egypt) located
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 9:41AM
Sylvainy R
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WOW!! you guys are way up there for me.... Somebody needs to break this down a notch or two for this sista to get it...........
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 10:19AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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But can I ask for clarification on the wives..... ????????????
Sons of Abraham by wife in order of birth
Hagar Ishmael (1)
Sarah Isaac (2)
Keturah (6)Zimran Jokshan Medan Midian Ishbak Shuah
And in the Book of Jubilees.... Abraham is held as a founding father in the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic religions. Genesis states that the nation of Israel descended from him through his second son, Isaac. Many Arab nations are said to have descended from him through his first son, Ishmael, and Muslims believe that the prophet Muhammad is his direct descendant .....
Im not supporting anyone person's views... Im trying to sort this out for further understanding........... What am I missing here...???
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 10:28AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Oh... Saint Jake.... I enjoyed that video on Edom and the Edomites...
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 10:30AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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again,
soso
read again my writing, AlIslaam is arabic language transliteration into english with a meaning in English of:
"The Way of Life-Montheism, that The Creator of Adaam and Creation, had intended for all of the Creation, living, forces of living, non living-everything that IS, is in the State of AlIslaam."
"The Genesis of Creation......is when AlIslaam started"
Mohamed(as) of the land now called The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia; was the final Mercy to the Family of Adaam and AlQur'aan is the final Scripture given to the Family of Adaam.
Pre Dr. Artis---Adaam is the Representation of Man.....
Ibraheem, Nuh, Musa, IsaIbnMaryam, Mohamed(asm), me, you, George Bush, saints brother Andrew Breitbart, jesse, chris rock, madonnaa, earl, steve, the negro in the alley are THE FAMILY OF ADAAM.
Edom, Adaam are both transliterations----drawings of Alphabets that are not a,b, c. etc.
If Edom is Hebrew, OK---.
I would rather look at 1000-2000-3000 years old writings in the Original Language than English, a language begun around 850 or so.
When you study your anatomy subject would you rather study them in english or chinese?
Abraham's(Ibraheem); founding father was Adaam........
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 11:04AM
robert powell
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Hi Bro Robert
I understand what you’re saying and again, my question is not Linguistic, and the origin of language but regarding the aforementioned topic, With due respect to you my brother My question is what’s the origin of Islam ? the yeas it started ? how did it get started, and why it got started,,,, (Also on the map where is Egypt) located
Not the origin Linguistically speaking of language,
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 1:21PM
Sylvainy R
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I for one.... when I read I would like to read from the ORIGINAL TEXTS... You of course have had the opportunities to learn arabic, hebrew, english... and I also understand that most of the original scriptures are written in arabic... and have been translated into the King James Versions, Apocrphy Tanakh, Torah Canons... so many.... In order to read the original writings.. I'd spend the next 10 years in school trying to learn all the different languages.... But I understand and agree.... I wish I could learn from the original writings....
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 3:24PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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to be honest that's one of the reason's I try not to subscibe to a particular Religion... I am a spiritualist... who has been taught by the christian writings...
This is also why I branch out and read... becuase I want to know all of the fact based religions.... I know that people of color worshiped in a different fashion and also, I am learning of my paternal family's spirit Gods... no I do not understand it all... But I am open to learning how they worship....
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 3:28PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Bro. Sosa...The Holy Quran is Gods word to Man. It is the first book of authority on Islam. It came about 1400 years ago. Prior to that, Islam was being practiced unknowingly by persons living a rightous life which has no apparent birth record.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 4:22PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Mr. Soso,
The origin of Islam is Prophet Mohammed. Before Prophet Mohammed Islam did not exist. Prophet Mohammed made clear to the Arabian people that this day (what every day that was) their religion of Islam is perfected for them. Islam means submission to the will of God. In the time of the Prophet Mohammed, the Arabian people were pagans.
Robert said this, “The Genesis of Creation......is when AlIslaam started“
This is not true! Prophet Mohammed is the author of Islam. All genuine prophets introduce religion to their people when it is clear the people does not have a religion of their own. Paganism is not a religion. Therefore, the Arabian people did not have a religion before the coming of Prophet Mohammed. Just as I had introduced the religion of LIFE to Black Americans since Black Americans did not have a religion of their own before my coming since I am Black America’s first genuine prophet.
Jamal said this, “Bro. Soso...the origins of Islam goes back before there were recordings, when black scientists put the sun in space to warm the planets.”
This is not true! Islam started with Prophet Mohammed anything else said different to this is gossip and imagination.
The reason that Islam got started is because Prophet Mohammed’s people were pagan worshipers. As Jewish people’s Prophet Abraham Prophet Mohammed hated this practice of paganism by his people. Prophet Mohammed’s primary purpose was to convert his Arabian people from paganism to Islam, submission to the will of God. Islam started in the lifetime of Prophet Mohammed and not anytime prior.
I have completely answered your two questions.
Robert and Jamal since they are wannabe Muslims they are not accurately answering your question. Which means that should you take them at their actual words and repeat it to someone else you would be misleading that someone else. This is how a good and factual event is twisted and turned into a lie.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 4:42PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “It is the first book of authority on Islam.”
Now, you are giving Mr. Soso and accurate answer.
However, you said this, “The Holy Quran is Gods word to Man.”
This is misleading and therefore it is not exactly accurate. The Holy Quran is God words if you will, but only to the Arabian people and not to Man as in humanity.
The Jewish people have their word of God. The Arabian people have their word of God. Black Americans now have our word of God as well. All three people have their own genuine prophet risen up from God.
The Jewish people had several prophets such as, Abraham, Moses and Jesus. The Arabian people had only one prophet, Prophet Mohammed.
Black Americans have one genuine prophet, Prophet Harry.
Have I made my point?
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 4:54PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Saint Jake,
You said this, “Black Americans are decendants of Hebrew Israelites------Black African tribal leaders rounded the so-called Black Americans in slave ships in route to the Americas.”
I want to get a better understanding of what you are saying here so let us string it out, okay.
My first question is what people were loaded onto the slave ships? It was Black Hebrew Israelites, right.
What say you?
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 5:08PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, you are no authority on Islam, when a muslim would refer to you as a hypocrite. So speak on what you know. As for me, have been a muslim since birth. What I speak is pure wisdom learned from Allah (God) many blessings. In the Islam flag, there is the Sun, Moon and Stars. In the white man's flag, there is stars and stripes. It signifies that Islam is as old as the Sun, Moon and stars. That is pure Islam teachings.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 6:13PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “Harry, you are no authority on Islam,”
However, I am an authority on Black Americans.
I want you out of Islam since it is not your religion. You are because you not an Arabian man. I want you in your own race helping me to raise the rest of our blind, deaf and dumb Black American people. The sooner the better so that the journey to sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders could begin to take shape and form.
Incidentally, it is impossible that you could be an authority on Islam. Allah perfected Islam specifically for the Arabian people through Prophet Mohammed. You are not an Arabian man. Your religion is LIFE!
Do you not know what and who you are by now since I have been putting out all this wisdom about Black Americans for the longest?
Have you not noticed that Saint Jake cannot trump my wisdom either? All of these clues are red flags that would tell you I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. Everything that I say is going to happen.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 7:24PM
Harry Watley
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Islam has provided a positive example of people of color running a nation that is prosperous. When I visited Egypt and lived there for months, it was so warm inside to be a a wonderful country that black people were in charge.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 7:39PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “Islam has provided a positive example of people of color running a nation that is prosperous.”
But, do you not think that we could do better than what Islam has done? Do you not think that I could do better than Prophet Mohammed has done? Do you not think that Black Americans could do better than what the Arabian people has done? Do you not have any faith in yourself and your Black American people?
However, Islam will not be in our sovereign country nor will other people influence how we will live.
Next you said this, “it was so warm inside to be a a wonderful country that black people were in charge.”
I understand what you are saying. However, I do know that Egyptians are not Black as we Black Americans are. Black Americans and Egyptians are entirely two different people.
I will instill as we near our sovereignty that I forbid any Black Americans to be influenced by other people’s ways, customs, religion and rituals. All of our ways, customs and rituals must come out of our own brain. When it comes to doing our own thing, we are going to be original.
Right now, I want you out of the shell of the Arabian people and their Prophet Mohammed, religion, ways, customs and rituals. I want you to come alive as a Black American whose religion is LIFE. Right now, you are dead in Islam as a Black Christian is dead to Christianity. Do you understand my point?
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 8:04PM
Harry Watley
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did you delete me?
soso
The 2 Billion Muslims in the World believe in One Creator of Adaam. His Way of Life to Adaam was AlIslaam and as a Believer--The Family of Adaam are Muslims.
Muslim is an english transliteration that; in English, means Believer in The Way of Life that the Creator made for Adaam.
Adaam, was a Believer and a Muslim, Moses was a Believer and a Muslim, Abraham was a Believer and a Muslim, IsaIbnMaryam was a Believer and a Muslim---Mohamed(asm) was a Believer and a Muslim........
Your birth was AlIslaam, a death is AlIslaam---if you have a belief in One Creator---you follow AlIslaam....
Genesis is the Birth of AlIslaam--
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 8:43PM
robert powell
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Robert..There is no reason to delete you . So what is relevant. Islam's impact on humanity. Islamic art, crafts, theology, academia and military machine has shown a capacity to remain powerful for the untold future.
Tuesday, July 27th 2010 at 10:27PM
jamal Abraham
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No my Brother Robert Powell I did not delete you, We may agree to disagree sometimes but nah not my style to delete nuff luv
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 8:06AM
Sylvainy R
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Someone Please help,,, When refering to (Adaam) is this the same as Adam in the Bible::: also what is (AlIslaam) Please forgive me But before I can comment just want to make sure I have my facts stright Thanks
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Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 8:17AM
Sylvainy R
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@ @Jamal Abraham / Saint Jake / Still no answer as to where is Egypt) located can you please respond
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 8:23AM
Sylvainy R
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Hello Saint Jake,
Firstly, let me compliment you on your super rationale and logic of the Bible in contrast to the Quran. Jamal and Robert are ignorantly blind because they are Muslims and believers in the Quran.
Let me give you some examples of your super rationale to Jamal and Robert.
(A) You said this, “The promise went to Isaac“
This is true; the promise did not go to Ishmael.
(B) You said this, “the Torah, has the geneology of the prophets, past, current, future events. every event in the Bible has and will come true. In contrast the Koran talks about the Hebrew Israelite prophets and points out their right and wrongs. It talks alot about Moses. The past and future events such as the destruction of the Egyptian, Babylonian, Roman Empire, and America are all in the bible. The KORAN has very little future event prophesies Therefore Al-Islam align their religion to the Prophets of the past, such as; Adam, Moses, Noah, Jesus, Abraham,etc.”
However, it is wrong for you to say that the Bible prophesies the destruction of White America. When reporting facts you must be accurate and not mix facts with your personal feelings. Nevertheless, the Quran is not as fulfilling as the Bible is. However, the Bible and Quran is not Black America’s religious book of guidance since Black Americans are neither Jewish nor Arabian people.
Let me point out that the word Israelites is an ancient word for the more modern word Jewish.
(C) You said this, “JESUS never claimed the Ishmaelites to be his heritage, he stated: 'I am the root and branch of David'. Muslims align Ishmael and his lineage through to Muhammad because Abraham had a son by a handmaiden. Genesis states: 'In Isaac shall be your seed of the promise”
Again, Saint Jake your logic and rationale is exquisite. Jamal and all Black American so-called Muslims deliberately blind themselves so they could consciously and comfortably believe in Islam. Most people does not want to acknowledge truth when they see it if the truth destroys what they believe. You, Saint Jake is also guilty when it comes to destroying your beliefs that Black Americans are Israelites when we are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery since the 1600s in this country of White America.
Now, to put a good ending to what I had said above, let me say this Mr. Saint Jake. Neither the Bible nor the Quran belongs to Black Americans. Black Americans are a people that came into existence when White people mostly of British descent purchased the African slave people from the slave traders and bred themselves with these African slave people on their plantations over 300 years that produced a people such as us, Black Americans.
Every Black American directly or indirectly has White people in their family tree.
I have been saying that Black Americans are going to inherit a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders and become a sovereign people. God has visited Black Americans as God visited the children of Israel in the days of Moses and as God visited the Arabian people in the days of Mohammed.
I am the prophet that God rose up for Black Americans as God had risen up Moses and Prophet Mohammed. I have said that Black Americans in these modern days are The Apple of God Eye.
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 10:04AM
Harry Watley
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@Staint Jake... thank you.... I'll have questions when I come back....
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 10:44AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Say a man....any man has two sons. No matter what his religion or what his race. This man has two sons. Now, say the man is not an IDIOT OR A FOOL and has all his mental facilties. OK, now say the father is wealthy....who does his inheritance go to ? It is as simple as that. Does the father give most of his inheritance to his firstborn or to his second son. God cannot expect more from his children then He is willng to do himself. Will you have God be a poor parent ?
That is the way truth is....truth is repeatable. Truth makes sense. Ishmael was Abrahams oldest son. All it takes is common sense, here.....not a lot of intelligence needs to be applied.
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 12:52PM
jamal Abraham
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It’s not my intention to offend anyone with respect to his/hers religious belief of faith base system I must repeat myself, The point within a circle represents the individual, Hence the space within the circle represent the realm of our knowledge, All that we think we know about whatever we think we know is depicted right within that circle, We must keep in mind that there’s more to know than what is within the circumference of our own awareness
With respect to the aforementioned blog of course we all know that Egypt (Kemat), is in Africa and not in the middle east, Now Egypt (Kemet) was invaded 4 times First the Assyria in 676 B.C Second The Greeks in 332 B.C Third the Romans in 30 B.C.E, Then came the Arabs in 639 A.D
Now prior to all these invasions the Africans of Egypt (Kemat), NOTE what I said the Africans of Egypt (Kemat), thought in the Grand Lodge of Luxor, 1, Monotheism , 2 ( Medicine by the African Imhotep whome the Greek rename
ASKLEPIOS (or Asclepius) Mathematics, Philosophy, Astronomy among others
However please don’t take my word for it go check it out for yourself, You cannot have a God, / Moses, / Mohammed / Adam and Eve / Abraham/ and so forth, without the Pyramid Text / The Coffin Text / The Papyrus of Ani / And the Osirian Drama These are the works of the indigenous people of Egypt (Kemat), ALSO KNOWN AS LAND ON THE BLACK has given to the world
According to history the year 622 or the year of the Hijra the Hijra being the year 1 that’s when Muhammad bin abdAllah fled Mecca to Medina if fear for his life there he meet (Hatsad Coubal Bin Rabin Bella) Who help him established what is known today as the religion of Islam
Now the language and culture of Islam is Arabic most Arabs are Muslim However Muslim are not Arabs You have more African who are Muslim in the world don’t take my word for it go check it out
It is said the Arabs comes from the line of Ishmael who is the son of Abraham And Ishmael according to history is the 14 year older brother of Isaac who is another son of Abraham
These are in my opinion some of the strategies that keeps us divided
For those who question please look up THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION the link below is a copy of their minutes
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion5.h...
Again I’ll say it’s not my intention to offend anyone with respect to his/hers religious belief of faith base system I must repeat myself, The point within a circle represents the individual, Hence the space within the circle represent the realm of our knowledge, All that we think we know about whatever we think we know is depicted right within that circle, We must keep in mind that there’s more to know than what is within the circumference of our own awareness
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 2:08PM
Sylvainy R
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If you read the link please note the word GOYIM In Hebrew means Gentiles
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 2:38PM
Sylvainy R
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Like warfare all religion is based on deception, Religion regardless it be Islam, Christianity, or any other for that matter is only a belief / faith system none of which can or has been proven it Is nothing but a program to control the mass by fear
F= False
E= Evidence
A= Appearing
R=Real
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 3:57PM
Sylvainy R
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Islam is differant than all religions in that it is a natural way of life. Again, God took the nature of the original people on earth and made it our own religion. Thus, in the Quran, every aspect of life is addressed. It is easy to condemn religion, but without religion, there is no gratitude for being created since no human being created himself or herself. This makes Islam apart from all religions.....the unity and brotherhood of Islam is the strongest on earth. Every human being has a nature like an animal has a nature. The nature of the original inhabitants on earth is Islam.
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 4:32PM
jamal Abraham
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@ Bro Jamal Abraham
No my brother it is no easy to condemn religion in fact men have died in the name of religion thus one must excise caution at all times, When we’re thought one way all our lives and suddenly what we were thought comes into question it’s not easy in fact a big pill to Sallow
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 5:06PM
Sylvainy R
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Hello to All,
It amazes me how you ignorant Negroes who are descendents of slaves could argue with each other about the Arabian religion and Egypt, but do not know a damn thing about yourselves.
Now tell me that you all are not some very, very ignorant dummies.
Some of you think you are Black Hebrew Israelite, Asiatic Black people, from the tribe Shabazz, colored people, some of you think you are Ishmaelite, Negroes etc. You all are a bunch of dummies since you do not know what the hell you who and have the nerve to be arguing with each other concerning what belongs to other people.
The world laughs at us. The hell with the Greeks, Romans, Egypt, Ishmael, Isaac, the pyramid text and Zion. What about 41 million Black American dummies that you all are part of dummy. Do you have anything to say about Black Americans? Where we are in the scheme of all this is Black Americans since you would, dummies have room for the Greeks, Romans and Ishmael.
Why it is that you all cannot stop, this stupid **** and talk to each other about what belongs to us. But first, as stupid as we are we have to come to understand who we are, am I right. I will be damn; we desperately need the help of God.
What say you?
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 7:06PM
Harry Watley
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Brother: Saint Jake Thanks for the edification however I’m not trying to convince anyone about anything I say, the documents are there go do the reading no disrespect to you but where in the history of mankind did you get The original Greeks were Black, Please let us not become to emotionally attaché to our imaginations, Information is a vital commodity share it, Step out of your awareness
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 7:56PM
Sylvainy R
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Bro. Soso....so when you set back from the forest and realize that words can be blown in the air...what makes it true. To scientist...if what you have agrees with the laws of science then it must be true...that is why I obtained a masters degree in the most intricate discipline in science which the study of the electrons becoming an electrical engineer. In my studies, and in particular with the controlled motions of particles naked to the human eye, testifies to the Oneness of God and that Islam is mathematically correct. But, many of us rely on tainted history books or heresay...however, the universe is an open book to the scientific eye and it doesn't lie.
Wednesday, July 28th 2010 at 10:53PM
jamal Abraham
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Brother : Jamal Abraham
Forgive me no offense to you, but I don’t recall asking for your Resume and I don’t need it either, I’m not impress with your academic achievement , If you want to impress me, Then show me how much you care with respect to freeing our people, YOU included.... from mental and spiritual enslavement from the belief or faith base system of religion
I for one question everything I’ll even question God if there is one we as a people must become freethinkers and should NOT be told or dictate to by religion how to what to and when to think
Thursday, July 29th 2010 at 12:12AM
Sylvainy R
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Bro. Soso, don't really have room on this blog for my resume. Only that science is the root verification for all knowledge and information. And if one has NOT the understanding of science then they must rely on the inaccuracies of history books. Math and science is exact which supports the Islam vantage of creation. The laws of science behave irregardless of race and religion that substantiates the cause-effect relationship that Islam fosters. As oppose to other religions that require one to forget about nature while invoking blind faith.
If not for Islam, there would be no Astronomy and half the branches of science used today. Islamic teachings are consistent with the motion of the heavenly bodies to the motion of the atom and constituent particles.
Merely throwing dates and events from books is open to debate. The dates and actual events may have been fabricated. But when your facts are based on the forces of nature and laws of science then you have the REAL FACTS.
Thursday, July 29th 2010 at 7:45AM
jamal Abraham
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Again,
Jamal should be respected for the Subject of HIS Blog.
The Importance of AlIslaam in the Development of America.
saintReicarnation or saintReRunCartoon----is not even yea or naying the Subject, and pulls out of Air some englishKing James Version of Events 2000-3000 years ago.
AlIslaam is now and the past 1431+ years been the Greatest Example of Worship by The Family of Adaam; Believers; as dictated by The Creator- AlHaq, AlKhalaq, ArRaheem;
he/she/its Saint-- Denigration of this Reality, is no different than the divisiveness of the Family of Adaam by the Slaver Americana crowd and the Racialistic nazis or KKK.
Scholarship and Historical Fact should be based on Original Language, Context, Time and Effect on The Family of Adaam....
I believe Jamal wants all of Us to learn something: not to "reReicanation" Falsehood and Deciet.
Thursday, July 29th 2010 at 8:10AM
robert powell
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@ Saint Jake
History has shown that the first literate person in all of Europe who wrote
Anything was Homer, He wrote 2 books The Iliad and The Odyssey
There was no writing anywhere in European history to these 2 books
And Homer in the Odyssey said Even the God that the Greeks adopted came from Ethiopia and we know there’s no Ethiopia in Europe
According to history Hippocrates whom the Greeks say was the father of medicine was born 333 B.C.E, swear that he went to Egypt to study among other thing medicine according to the God Imhotep whom the Greeks rename Asclepius the Greek word for Imhotep
Imhotep is also the Chief architect of the Step Pyramid
Abraham cane on the seen around 1700 B.C.E he was born in the City of UR in Chaldea
Prior to Abraham BIRTH Architecture / Mathematics/ Science/ Philosophy/ Monotheism/ among other subject where thought by the indigenous African of (Egypt) Ta-Merry, or Kimit , The land of the black
Prophet Mohammed, The religion of Islam was still not on the seen yet
Do you feel me now!!!!!!!
Thursday, July 29th 2010 at 4:18PM
Sylvainy R
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Hello to All,
It is apparent that all of you are arguing from the perspective of what you believe.
For example, Mr. Sylvainy does not believe in God so he argues from the perspective of other people’s opinion such as, Homer.
Saint Jake argues from the perspective of the Black Hebrew Israelites. Mr. Jake believes that Black Hebrew Israelites inhabited the whole earth at one time.
Jamal and Robert argues from the perspective of Islam. Jamal believe Islam is the axis that the world spins on, am I right.
Now, one thing that all of you who have been coming is that you Negroes are Black Americans. Yet everything that you Negroes argue about belongs to the Arabian, Greek and Prophet Abraham’s people. Nothing belongs to you Negroes.
So, to substantiate what I am saying I would ask Jamal this question. Jamal do you believe that Black America’s religion; LIFE could also be founded on science and mathematics that would surpass the accomplishment of Islam?
Now, I am not saying Islam is wrong. I am saying that from within your mind is it possible that Black America’s religion, LIFE could surpass Islam in these modern days.
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, July 29th 2010 at 5:40PM
Harry Watley
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So what happened to the indigenous African continent. Africa is considered on the global scale as 4TH WORLD STATUS of industrialized nations. Meaning they are about 100 years behind the rest of the world. It is because they got from math and science to voodoo and witchcraft. They went from engineers and architects to animalism and sorcery believing in ancestral spirit worship.
It took the coming of Islam to get black Africans back on track to civilization. The Islamic conquest into Africa meant universities, schools, hospitals, museums and the arts and innovations in science as evidence in factories, manufacturing and mining. If not for the coming of Islam, many would still be worshipping all sorts of statues, oracles and magic potents. Try to feel that.
Thursday, July 29th 2010 at 7:27PM
jamal Abraham
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Harry, the answer is no.....Because Islam is mathematics. Meaning that the religions resolves into truth. There is no greater refinement in accuracy then mathematics and Islam is already based on a mathematical principle. All the one God Allah (God) done was to provide man the nature of the universe as a religion and called it Islam.
A concoction of yours, Life could never come close to Islam the entire premise from which you justify it is based on a lie. That African Americans are a new breed and not connected to Africa or any of the holy scriptures....EACH IS A BIG FAT LIE.
Thursday, July 29th 2010 at 7:35PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “…African Americans are a new breed and not connected to Africa or any of the holy scriptures....EACH IS A BIG FAT LIE.”
Tell me if there are any differences between a Black American and an African-American? Do you think that a Nigerian is the same as a Black American?
Let us tackle this issue first, okay.
Thursday, July 29th 2010 at 9:12PM
Harry Watley
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A nigerian and black American has the same genetic origin
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 7:03AM
jamal Abraham
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Soso,
Adaam(as) was the First on the scene.
He was given a code of Living that Benefitted Man from Creator--
whether you or a paganChristian can measure it or find it--Stories or facts on the ground--Humans work with their minds; that gives them authority over monkeys.
Pharoah was a Piece of Evil, the head monkey, that took the entire Lives of Generations of Families to erect symbols to Him and His Family; by brute Ape Force.
It seems to me that the Story of Monotheism and Adaam is highlighted with this area through Nuh, Musa, Ibraheem, Isa and Mohamed(asm) for the obvious reason that Pharoahs paganism actually was adopted by paganEuropean Christians--1492-.....
and you soso should at least understand
Prophet Mohamed(as) has no teachings, He received thru Jibreel; The Words of The Creator of Adaam(as).......AlKhalaq, ArRahmaan.......Allaah
These words are the instruction for The Family of Adaam(as).
You and the paganChristians use these "color" terms to Divide the Family of Adaam----The Muslim DOES NOT---The Believer DOES NOT--
The Believer, again, accepts Adaam, Nuh, Musa, Ibraheem, Isa, and Mohamed(asm)----ALL MUSLIMS
And The Believer, again, accepts ---- AtTaurat, the books of Musa, AlInjeel, AzZaboor, and AlQur'aan AS THE WORDS OF THE CREATOR OF ADAAM---
there is NO distinction or difference in the Original Prophets and Scripture.......
BUT THEY ARE ALL The Family of Adaam---Monotheistic not Paganistic
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 8:20AM
robert powell
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Bro: Robert
Before I comment please let me know are you a Muslim, If not are you a religious person, we can move forward with a Civil discourse from there exchanging information digging deeper into our history while we look for factual / archeological evidence of what is and NOT trying to knock each
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 9:09AM
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Bro. Soso...prior to the coming of Islam, there was no monotheism in Africa. If you disagree, please name a civilization in Africa prior to 700 AD that practised the belief in only ONE GOD.
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 9:44AM
jamal Abraham
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soso,
paganChristian negros seem to not understand English, not their mother tongue or juist cannot comprehend anything---
It takes you this long in a conversation to ask the question, "am I a Muslim"
and you had asked me what a Muslim was?---
again soso-------
The 2 Billion Muslims in the World believe in One Creator of Adaam. His Way of Life to Adaam was AlIslaam and as a Believer--The Family of Adaam are Muslims.
Muslim is an english transliteration that; in English, means Believer in The Way of Life that the Creator made for Adaam.
Adaam, was a Believer and a Muslim, Moses was a Believer and a Muslim, Abraham was a Believer and a Muslim, IsaIbnMaryam was a Believer and a Muslim---Mohamed(asm) was a Believer and a Muslim........
Your birth was AlIslaam, your death is AlIslaam---if you have a belief in One Creator---you follow AlIslaam....
robert powell is a Muslim and
pharoah was a pagan and a pagan that did not respect any life other than Pharoah
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 1:23PM
robert powell
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Bro: Jamal Abraham Thank you for asking that question
When speaking or researching Civilization from an African concept lets use the proper names first Africa original name before she was concord by Europeans, Assyrians and yes the Arabia’s being the last Africa was celled AL KABULAND, just like Greece original name first Macedonia then Elia then Greece
Second Egypt originally was called Kemit the word means Land on the Black Now prior to 700 AD the practice of monotheism was well establish in (Kemit) Egypt) if you get your hand on a copy of the book Coming Forth By Day And Night better known as the Book of the Dead you’ll see where monotheism, Science the seven liberal art started from, and that was 4000 years before there was (Arabia’s,/ Islam Europeans Greeks / Christianity/ Hebrews Jwes) among others These are Johnny come lately,
In (Kemit (Africa) they worship RA, That is the SUN (not SON) we could get into that later, They also change the direction in which the Nile River Flow, The First Eye Operation ever performed was done in ( Kemit (Africa
Now the Arabs was the last to invade KEMIT that was in 639 they concur Kemit, and you know who writes History or History is written by who????? Prior to these things there was no such thing as Islam or Arabs it was The land of the black Civilization, Please don’t take my word for any of this check it out for yourself
The Arabian conquest at that time accrued at a time in history when North Africa (AL KABULAND) People was looking for relief from the Romans terrene and Roman rule the North African became victims of their own hostility they welcome the Arabs with open arms
Even today we are still victims of our own hostility
Even Homer in the Odyssey said The concept of monotheism one God came from Kimet Egypt, Even the first University ever built in Europe was built by the MOORS African, that is the University of Salamanca In Spain IT STILL STANDS TO THIS VERY DAY Check it, out
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 4:14PM
Sylvainy R
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Bro: Robert Rowell
Wow, Please there’s no need to get defensive or upset for it’s not my intention to offend anyone for his or her belief and or faith system However we could agree to dis-agree with being disagreeable and still remain brothers and sisters
In my quest my brother what I’ve come to realize is that most people believe what they cannot prove, And they disbelieve what they cannot disprove they will show what they cannot prove as fact but anything with evidence to it they can’t accept it, this is especially true when it comes to religion, and that’s ok
My brother give some thought to this,,,, Religion has nothing to do with truth about, right or wrong Religion is nothing but emotions whether right or wrong it’s a feeling
And all religion are based on belief / faith because NO ONE CAN PROVE ANY OF IT
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 4:50PM
Sylvainy R
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Hello to All,
I had surprised that Jamal would ask such a question when Judaism was about monotheism and Abraham was long before Prophet Mohammed.
Although Egypt practice monotheism in worshiping RA; nevertheless, worshiping RA was a form of idolatry. In addition, Egypt depending on the dynasty that was in power worshiping bounce back and forth from one thing to another.
The worship of God is to know that God is neither human nor can anything be compared to God if your mind is able to comprehend what I have just written.
Overall, how does knowing all this stuff advances Black Americans becoming a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders?
Knowing all this stuff is easy. But, advancing Black Americans to a sovereign people is difficult. With difficulties come great rewards. There is no reward that comes from easy stuff.
What say you?
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 5:09PM
Harry Watley
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Bro. Sosa..if you want to have dialogue with a scientist, it generally goes like this. I ask one(1) simple question. And you answer it. It is not necessary to ramble. Lets deal with the question. Then, give me a chance to answer. That is the life of a scientist. If you fail to give a scientist an opportunity to respond to what you say....It takes away the value of what you speak.
Kemit you say. According to many Egyptologists, Monotheism is Ancient Kemit was more theory that what was practiced. There was Champollion-Figear who described the so-called monotheism as something that manifested itself externally by a symbolical polytheism. There was M. Maspero who also had the opinion that all form and names of the innumerable gods were for the worshippers which described the many forms of the one God. Another Egyptologist named M. Chabas described all the gods and goddesses as but differant aspects or attributes of the one sole god. Then there was Mariette that flatly denied neither in the temples nor in those previously Kemit built temples were there any evidence of one god. What is found are dietes who are immortal and uncreated. But, absolutely nowhere is there any indication one and invisible God without name and form that presides over the Egyptian Pantheon. No indication in the Temple of Denderah. Dr. Samuel Birch, a famous Egyptologists agrees.
Then you mention Amen-Ra, the Sun God. What about Taht, the Moon God; or Seb, the Star God. In Islam, we have put the Sun, Moon and Star in our flag under One God. Before these gods including before Amen-Ra that came later, were Ptoh, Atum, Horus, Seb, Shie, Osiris and Sut. My point, is that black people did not practice "monotheism" in deed until Islam. They spoke it, but never articulated it. It took time to fashion out all of the dietes....innumerable dietes....time that took them away from growing civilization...which is why they were easily conquered by the Arabs. As evidence of today since who rules Egypt today....Islam...dah. I have been over to Egypt and lived there .
In Islam, monotheism is spoken and practiced. There are no worship of statues or any form of idolatry. There is only One God and only One Name is used for His Proper Name. God has 99 attributes that describe Him but you do not call on an attribute in prayer. You do not call on neither of the 99 names. A muslim call the One God only by the Name of Allah, the Great One God.
Friday, July 30th 2010 at 10:03PM
jamal Abraham
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Subject should be
ISLAM has done MORE for Americans than ANY RELIGION !
wheres your friend steveAdam, adamSteve
Wednesday, January 28th 2015 at 8:23AM
robert powell
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Now, this is a blog with an analytical, logical, fact-finding, probing exchanging points of believes, faiths and opinions, many of which have been expressed since July 2010.
Thank you Robert for bringing this blog "ISLAM has done MORE for Black Americans than ANY RELIGION !" from Black In America's archives.
Wednesday, January 28th 2015 at 11:54AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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