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DEBATE HEATING UP ON PLANS FOR MOSQUE NEAR GROUND ZERO. NY Times, July 31, 2010 (322 hits)

“WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT AMERICA AND PARTICULARLY NEW YORK IS WE WELCOME EVERYBODY,” SAID NEW YORK CITY MAYOR MICHAEL BLOOMBERG. “IF WE ARE SO AFRAID OF SOMETNING LIKE THIS, WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT US?”



An influential Jewish organization on Friday announced its opposition to a proposed Islamic center and mosque two blocks north of ground zero in Lower Manhattan, intensifying a fierce national debate about the limits of religious freedom and the meaning of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

The decision by the group, the Anti-Defamation League, touched off angry reactions from a range of religious groups, which argued that the country would show its tolerance and values by welcoming the center near the site where radical Muslims killed about 2,750 people.

But the unexpected move by the ADL, a mainstream group that has denounced what it saw as bigoted attacks on plans for the Muslim center, could well be a turning point in the battle over the project.

In New York, where ground zero has slowly blended back into the fabric of the city, government officials appear poised to approve plans for the sprawling complex, which would have as many as 15 stories and would house a prayer space, a performing arts center, a pool and a restaurant.

But around the country opposition is mounting, fueled in part by Republican leaders and conservative pundits. Sarah Palin, the 2008 Republican vice-presidential nominee, has urged “peace-seeking Muslims” to reject the center, branding it an “unnecessary provocation.” A Republican political action committee has produced a television commercial assailing the proposal. And former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has decried it in speeches.

The complex’s rapid evolution from a local zoning dispute into a national referendum highlights the intense and unsettled emotions that still surround the World Trade Center site nine years after the attacks.

To many New Yorkers, especially in Manhattan, it is a construction zone, passed during the daily commute or glimpsed through office windows. To some outside of the city, though, it stands as a hallowed battlefield that must be shielded and memorialized.

Those who are fighting the project argue that building a house of Muslim worship so close to ground zero is at best an affront to the families of those who died there and at worst an act of aggression that would, they say, mark the place where radical Islam achieved a blow against the United States.

“The World Trade Center is the largest loss of American life on our soil since the Civil War,” Mr. Gingrich said. “And we have not rebuilt it, which drives people crazy. And in that setting, we are told, why don’t we have a 13-story mosque and community center?”

He added: “The average American just thinks this is a political statement. It’s not about religion, and is clearly an aggressive act that is offensive.”

Several family members of victims at the World Trade Center have weighed in against the plan, saying it would desecrate what amounts to a graveyard. “When I look over there and see a mosque, it’s going to hurt,” C. Lee Hanson, whose son, Peter, was killed in the attacks, said at a recent public hearing. “Build it someplace else.”

Those who support it seem mystified and flustered by the heated opposition. They contend that the project, with an estimated cost of $100 million, is intended to span the divide between Muslim and non-Muslim, not widen it.

Oz Sultan, the programming director for the center, said the complex was based on Jewish community centers and Y.M.C.A.’s in Manhattan. It is to have a board composed of Muslim, Christian and Jewish leaders and is intended to create a national model of moderate Islam.

“We are looking to build bridges between faiths,” Mr. Sultan said in an interview.

City officials, particularly Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, have forcefully defended the project on the grounds of religious freedom, saying that government has no place dictating where a house of worship is located. The local community board has given overwhelming backing to the project, and the city’s landmarks commission is expected to do the same on Tuesday.

“What is great about America, and particularly New York, is we welcome everybody, and if we are so afraid of something like this, what does that say about us?” Mr. Bloomberg asked recently.

“Democracy is stronger than this,” he added. “And for us to just say no is just, I think — not appropriate is a nice way to phrase it.”

Still, the arguments against the Muslim center appear to be resonating. Polling shows that a majority of Americans oppose building it near ground zero.

Resistance is particularly strong among some national Republican leaders. In stump speeches, Twitter messages and op-ed articles, they have turned angry denunciations of the plan into a political rallying cry that they say has surprising potency.

The two major Republican candidates for governor of New York, Rick A. Lazio and Carl Paladino, are making it a central issue in their campaigns, attacking the state’s attorney general, Andrew M. Cuomo, who is also the presumptive Democratic nominee for governor, for not aggressively investigating the project’s finances.

In North Carolina, Ilario Pantano, a former Marine and a Republican candidate for Congress, has also campaigned on the issue, and says it is stirring voters in his rural district, some 600 miles away from ground zero.

A few days ago, at a roadside pizza shop in the small town of Salemburg, he attacked the proposal before an enthusiastic crowd of hog farmers and military veterans.

“Uniformly, there was disgust and disdain in the room for the idea,” Mr. Pantano said.

The issue was wrenching for the Anti-Defamation League, which in the past has spoken out against anti-Islamic sentiment. But its national director, Abraham H. Foxman, said in an interview on Friday that the organization came to the conclusion that the location was offensive to families of victims of Sept. 11, and he suggested that the center’s backers should look for a site “a mile away.”

“It’s the wrong place,” Mr. Foxman said. “Find another place.”

Asked why the opposition of the families was so pivotal in the decision, Mr. Foxman, a Holocaust survivor, said they were entitled to their emotions.

“Survivors of the Holocaust are entitled to feelings that are irrational,” he said. Referring to the loved ones of Sept. 11 victims, he said, “Their anguish entitles them to positions that others would categorize as irrational or bigoted.”

The Anti-Defamation League’s statement drew criticism almost immediately.

“The ADL should be ashamed of itself,” said Rabbi Irwin Kula, president of the National Jewish Center for Learning and Leadership, which promotes interethnic and interfaith dialogue. Speaking of the imam behind the proposed center, Feisal Abdul Rauf, he said, “Here, we ask the moderate leaders of the Muslim community to step forward, and when one of them does, he is treated with suspicion.”

C. Welton Gaddy, the president of the Interfaith Alliance, a Washington group that emphasizes religious freedom, called the decision “disappointing,” and said he read about it “with a great deal of sorrow.”

On Friday, Mr. Sultan, the programming director for the proposed Muslim center, expressed surprise and sadness at the news. Told of Mr. Foxman’s remarks about the families of Sept. 11 victims, he said, “That response is just not well thought out.” He said that Muslims had also died on Sept. 11, either because they worked in the twin towers, or responded to the scene.

“The ADL has always been antibigotry,” he said. “This just does not seem consistent with their message.”









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Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 11:39AM
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EXACTLY!!!! You nailed it, Clark!

When Newt Gingrich said that we ought to use Saudi Arabia as our standard when it comes to allowing freedom of religion I laughed.

That is why I am suggesting that folks should take a look at Norman Rockwell's famous paintings "THE FOUR FREEDOMS". One of his paintings depicts FREEDOM OF RELIGION, showing all of the world's major religions worship God in their own way. It is one of the founding principles of this nation that our brave soldiers give their lives to protect.


Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 2:37PM
Richard Kigel
again, thank you for clarifying,

The founder has been in America since the 60s and has built Masajid, but this "manhattan Project" is a cultural center--not what Oppenheimer did.
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 2:42PM
robert powell
Thank you Robert.

Here is a statement by IMAM FEISAL ABDUL RAUF, head of this project, on JULY 21, 2010 in the Washington Post.

"My heart goes out to all the victims of 9/11. But I urge you to include in your sympathies the family of Mohammad Salman Hamdani. Born in Pakistan, his parents brought him to New York as a small child. He wanted nothing more than to be an American, and he was."

"A high school football player in Queens, he graduated from Queens College. When he could not get into an American medical school, he became a part-time ambulance driver. He disappeared on 9/11 and his body was found months later in the wreckage of the North Tower. This 23-year Muslim died saving his fellow New Yorkers."

"Religion did not distinguish the victims. Whether Protestant, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh or Buddhist, or from any and no professed faith, the roll call of people who died on that terrible day reflected the diverse fabric of New York. They all died together."

"And, yes, the center will have a public memorial to the victims of 9/11.
The center will be open to everyone, not just Muslims. That is our mission - to provide common ground for people of all faiths."

"Freedom of religion is something we hold dear. It is the core of what America is all about, and it is what people worldwide respect about our country. The Qur'an itself says compulsion in religion is wrong."

"American Muslims want to be both good Americans and good Muslims. They can be the best assets the US has in combating extremism. They know that many American values -- freedom of religion, human dignity and opportunity for prosperity -- are Muslim values too."

"This center is an attempt to prevent the next 9/11."




Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is chairman of the Cordoba Initiative, an independent, non-partisan and multi-national project that seeks to use religion to improve Muslim-West relations. (www.cordobainitiative.org) He is the author of "What's Right with Islam is What's Right With America."


Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 3:54PM
Richard Kigel
but to build on sacred ground ((knowingly)) doesn't fit right with me...
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 7:45PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Pre Dr. Artis,---

he has owned the building for what 28 years.................and Muslims have been praying there for 28 years----the loud voices are the adults who as children, watched lynchings and they are not against Muslims they are against irma, and you and Richard for being fair.


Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 10:47PM
robert powell
wow!! Irma, I personally am against anything that may disturb a grave, whether it is marked or unmarked... groud zero in my opinion is as scared as Arlington Cemetery tomb of unknow soldiers. I am ALL for freedom of religion... And I respect anyone's religion as well as anyone who choses not to believe.

I have just as much respect as one's final resting place. It's already a sad situation that some remains are still there and family members do not have a place of intermet for their loved ones whom died during this attack.

I hope my statement doesn't offend anyone...

Robert... the same people who brutalized human beings are the same ones pushing for building around this property? Odd!!!!
Saturday, July 31st 2010 at 11:54PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
You are always, Fair and Scholastic--Professor Richard Kigel
Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 11:31AM
robert powell
Thank you Robert.

I just want to make sure you know that I am a STRONG SUPPORTER of religious freedom in this country. And I would like to see the Cordoba Initiative prosper on that site exactly because it is inclusive and embraces the entire community. It is a monument to peace. People seem to be putting that fact out of their minds when they try to throw peace loving moderate Muslims in with the fanatics.

As Christians know all too well, every religion has its share of fanatics and crazies.

I support and applaud any initiative that will increase the peace, combat ignorance and help bring us together.

Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 12:14PM
Richard Kigel
Thanks Richard for the Lesson.... WOW!! This is way deep.... as you are always pointing out the facts... and yes I am learning to utilize facts over emotions... uumm which is hard for me...
Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 12:54PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
I know, Cynthia. You do have a HUGE HEART!!! And that is what makes you such a good person.

But this is a tricky issue with plenty of subtlties and nuances. It is so easy to let our thinking get clouded over by emotional gut reactions--which, as you know, can be terribly wrong.

Here is one case when it is helpful to know the actual facts before jumping to conclusions.

What gets me is that people assume that what will sprout up in the middle of the footprints between the two towers is a Pakistani type Madrassah where they teach the Koran in Arabic and "Death to America" chants and plan the next suicide bombing. That is what people fear most.

But, as you can see from actual authentic statements from those who are responsible for this, it is a moderate Muslim group whose main interst is peace aned reconciliation. They are eager to show they are loyal Americans and they do not support terrorism in any way share or form.

It is not even a mosque, as most people mistakenly think. It is a cultural center that is open to the community at large where everybody can come to swim, take classes, go lectures or panel discussions, eat at a restaurant and--if anyone is so inclinced--to pray. It is not even clear that the prayer room is restricted. It may well be that anybody can go there to pray in any way they see fit. I don't know about that--but even so...the sum total of the project is for education.

So I think an excellent way to honor the souls and memories of those who were murdered on 9/11 by crazy fanatics who perverted the teaching of Islam is to promote peace and tolerance led by Muslims.


Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 1:20PM
Richard Kigel
Irma... I agree with you... about Pearl Harbor... When I found out that our government spent more money on a memorial to honor than they did to actually save more bodies.. I was livid... and I too know how it feels to not have a final resting place for my loved one... who died on the battle fields of Vietnam....
Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 2:27PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
BEAUTIFULLY SAID, IRMA!!!


Sunday, August 1st 2010 at 7:27PM
Richard Kigel
I must agree Richard

irma wrote, 'Because of the rules in teh south of the past, I can not even find my mother's grave"

That is Americana Past---and it brought a tear to my eyes--as I still cannot go to my fathers family home in southCarolina.......

That should be OLD, but the Ignorance that EncomPassed the Past, is in New York today with those that would bring back the Mentality of Americana Past.

Let us Help Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama with Change from old ways.


Monday, August 2nd 2010 at 8:54AM
robert powell
...i FIND "i" MUST BACK OFF AS THIS IS getting into something "I" am forbidden to do 'debate' about a good/ bad religion...lov ya all (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
lOOK MEXICAN IN ARIZONA...

LOOK MUSLIM IN N.Y....

AND HERE WE THOUGHT THE AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND NATIVE-AMERICANS HAD A PROBLEM????????????????????????????????????????????? PLEASE!!!! (NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Hay doc. what do you mean by 'cacred grould' and hwat part of the mall does not need to be built there or is it alright to shop ong sacred ground but not to pray to GOD on sacred ground or are we going in the same circle of no pray in school and leaving out altogethere all prayers must be left out of our public schiols if it is not a Christianprayer???? ...no it is not you and your thinking I am asking these questions Doc. because I know you are for equality and respect accross the board...I just don't want any of us to maybe get side tracked off if this is about dislike, respect of a RELIGOON THAT IS BEIND ALL OF THIS...WOULD THERE BE ANY QUESTION IF IT WAS A CHRISTAIN CHURCH BUILT HERE...IN THIS COUNTRY OF FREEDOM OF RELIGION?!? (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
"I" must confess, for me persoanlly, "I" have a major problem with a Jew showing respect to the Muslim religion in Christian America...(NUP as "I" am truely ashamed for my thinking this way)...It may be that now that the Mayor and the owner of the FOX media enterprise have joined hand in hand in matters of profilings in America or may be it is just an excuse I am after...but as this is seen as a personal obsticle related this "IGNORANCE/ PREJUDICE "I" am full speed in trying to EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!! MYSELF FIRST AND FORMOST ON THIS MATTER. ..from all sides ...

(s-m-i-l-e)

thanks Rich...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
doc, "I" have pAid money to go on the ship USS Arizoan in Hawaii that has been turned into a tourist attraction and the bodies of our fallen sailors are still on that ship from the beginning of WWII...Because of the rules in teh south of the past, I can not even find my mother's grave...(IF I HAD KNOWN IN ADVANCE THAT DEAD BODIES OF THE FALLEN WAS STILL ON THAT SHIP "i" NEVER WOULD HAVE GONE ON IT)...

so this is not about a principal of morality but the total opposit as we are led to believe this is about America is a CHRISTIAN NATION...and because of this belief / practice / prejudice without cause...

we are so accepting of abuse of all even to killing those who are DIFFERENT THEREFOR E DEFICIENT...IN THE NAME OF A CHRISTIAN GOD...

(NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...AND, "I" WILL REPEAT...IT IS NOT THE BUILDING OF A PLACE TO SELL PRODUCTS AT (THUS THIS AMLL) IT IS THE OBJECTION OF THOSE WHO WANT TO PRAY TO THEIR G-O-D IN THI S CARISTIAN ANTION OF FREEDOM OF RELIGION THAT IS THE OUT CRY OF THIS MOSQUE CAN NOT BE BUILT THERE AT LEAST THEY WILL NOT BE PAYING THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY TO GO THERE...WE HAVE GOT TO EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!! AGAINST THESE DIFFERENT BUT EFFECTIVE, AFFECTIVE WAYS TO HATE OUR FELLOW MANKIND...(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Yes, Cynthia..."I" realize that it may be because "I" chose to get away from (abusing) Christianity that I can better be able to have exchanged fear of Hell for Logic that has better abled me (MAybe) to see / allow that as members of the human race how we are all in this thing called life together...

not as les sthan or better than but as EQUALS AND AS MY PRACTICE TEACHES WE ARE ALL ( have the unlimited powers to do 'right' or to do ' wrong, therefore) WORTHY OF RESPECT BECAUSE WE ARE aLL MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RACE. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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