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Demagoguing the Mosque and Islam By Ron Paul (112 hits)

Left and the Right Demagogue Mosque, Islam


Is the controversy over building a mosque near ground zero a grand distraction or a grand opportunity? Or is it, once again, grandiose demagoguery?

It has been said, "Nero fiddled while Rome burned." Are we not overly preoccupied with this controversy, now being used in various ways by grandstanding politicians? It looks to me like the politicians are "fiddling while the economy burns."

The debate should have provided the conservative defenders of property rights with a perfect example of how the right to own property also protects the 1st Amendment rights of assembly and religion by supporting the building of the mosque.

Instead, we hear lip service given to the property rights position while demanding that the need to be "sensitive" requires an all-out assault on the building of a mosque, several blocks from "ground zero."

Just think of what might (not) have happened if the whole issue had been ignored and the national debate stuck with war, peace, and prosperity. There certainly would have been a lot less emotionalism on both sides. The fact that so much attention has been given the mosque debate, raises the question of just why and driven by whom?

In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it.

They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. A select quote from soldiers from in Afghanistan and Iraq expressing concern over the mosque is pure propaganda and an affront to their bravery and sacrifice.

The claim is that we are in the Middle East to protect our liberties is misleading. To continue this charade, millions of Muslims are indicted and we are obligated to rescue them from their religious and political leaders. And, we're supposed to believe that abusing our liberties here at home and pursuing unconstitutional wars overseas will solve our problems.

The nineteen suicide bombers didn't come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11.

Many fellow conservatives say they understand the property rights and 1st Amendment issues and don't want a legal ban on building the mosque. They just want everybody to be "sensitive" and force, through public pressure, cancellation of the mosque construction.

This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible.

There is no doubt that a small portion of radical, angry Islamists do want to kill us but the question remains, what exactly motivates this hatred?

If Islam is further discredited by making the building of the mosque the issue, then the false justification for our wars in the Middle East will continue to be acceptable.

The justification to ban the mosque is no more rational than banning a soccer field in the same place because all the suicide bombers loved to play soccer.

Conservatives are once again, unfortunately, failing to defend private property rights, a policy we claim to cherish. In addition conservatives missed a chance to challenge the hypocrisy of the left which now claims they defend property rights of Muslims, yet rarely if ever, the property rights of American private businesses.

Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam -- the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia.

It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don't want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators. Statistics of support is irrelevant when it comes to the purpose of government in a free society -- protecting liberty.

The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims. This is like blaming all Christians for the wars of aggression and occupation because some Christians supported the neo-conservatives' aggressive wars.

The House Speaker is now treading on a slippery slope by demanding an investigation to find out just who is funding the mosque -- a bold rejection of property rights, 1st Amendment rights, and the Rule of Law -- in order to look tough against Islam.

This is all about hate and Islamaphobia.

We now have an epidemic of "sunshine patriots" on both the right and the left who are all for freedom, as long as there's no controversy and nobody is offended.

Political demagoguery rules when truth and liberty are ignored.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article....
Posted By: Steve Williams
Monday, August 23rd 2010 at 2:06PM
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[The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims.]

Great commentary and I've tried to think about this at all angles, but I want to bring in another side. Having personally suffered PTSD/PD/Depression (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder/Panic Disorder) post attacks which needed medical treatment and psychiatric counceling, would it not be plausible to think the Islamic Ctr has "triggered" the trauma of WTC Attacks?

Perhaps it may not totally be fear mongering or hatred of Islam for some of these people but simply what many vets have suffered and continue to suffer~~ PTSD/PD?
Just my 2 cents worth.
Monday, August 23rd 2010 at 2:59PM
Jen Fad
I don't know Jen, I didn't suffer PTSD/PD as a result of 911. My immediate reaction was we brought this on ourselves. My immediate reaction was that we should not retaliate. Rather clean our own house and acknowledge that our enemies did not appear out of thin air, or out of envy of our prosperity, but due to our reprehensible actions towards other nations and citizens, on a truly global scale.
Monday, August 23rd 2010 at 3:40PM
Steve Williams
@ Brother Steve
Your immediate reaction post WTC attacks were we (meaning the USA) brought the attack on ourselves... I wasn't referring to the pre-attack challenges, but merely bringing another angle of way some people might be in opposition (and that doesn't include the politicians who are looking for points for re-election in November).

@ Brother Clark,
Of course I realize that there are anti-Islamic protestors who just don't want anything Muslim at all, but there are people out there who are afraid and for good reason because they are sick and suffering. Although I'm much better today because of a good doctor, I feel bad for people who haven't sought proper help. Just my 2 cents.

Monday, August 23rd 2010 at 11:22PM
Jen Fad
Irma, I am so glad I finally was able to post a Ron Paul blog that could be accepted by BIA. He is really shining at his best here.
Tuesday, August 24th 2010 at 9:58AM
Steve Williams
Oh, let me go look for those videos.
Tuesday, August 24th 2010 at 9:59AM
Steve Williams
Irma, what I meant is that much of what I post from Ron Paul does not sit well with the Democrats, who are in the majority on BIA. You are the only one who seems to really have any interest in Ron Paul. But this post is more in the way of nonpartisan politics.
Tuesday, August 24th 2010 at 1:09PM
Steve Williams
@JEN, what about those people in Iraq who has not done anything to America...or does one not believe that these people should be suffering at all..but then thats where you know who comes in when people are suffering, right...get real and please stop trying to justify ...

different means what...not as human as Americans therefore Americans are suffering from one day of attacks and they what every day for lets say how many years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (nup)

how many m-i-l-l-i-o-n-s over thousands and thousands of miles not 2 blocks...

NOW WHAT WAS THE RON PAUL WAS SAYING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY AND THEIR J-U-S-T-I-F-I-C-A-T-I-O-N-S?????????????????????????????????????? (N-U-P)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
"I" SEE (R) RON PAUL ONCE AGAIN STANDS ALONE IN SPEAKING 'REALITY SPEAK'...

GOOD FOR HIM...

BUT, JUST REMEMBER NO ONE LISTEN TO HIM WHEN HE SAID , "WHEN AN EMPIRE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD ITSELF, IT WILL FALL" ...

SO, WHO BELIEVE THAT LIE THAT CHINA IS SECOND TO AMERICA WHEN AMERICA HAS SENT ALL OF THEIR MIDDLE-CLASS JOBS (WHICH BY THE WAY U-S-E TO PAY THE BULK OF THE TAXES) TO CHINA AND INDIA STILL SAY CHINA IS SECOND TO THE U.S.A.

NOT TO MENTION HOW MANY $ TRILLIONS WE OWE CHINA TO BOOT!!!(NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@JEN, MY HUSBAND STILL SUFFERS FROM VIET NAM...ANY RELIGION TO BLAME HERE...THAT COUNTRY IS MOSTLY BUDDHIST...

A VET'S FAMILY SUFFERES ALONG WITH HIM...OH JEN WHILE WE ARE AT THIS WHAT ABOUT THE VETS (FROM THESE 2 WARS....WHAT ABOUT THE FAMILYS OF THESE VETS WHO HAD TO SEND THEM SPECIAL THINGS TO PROTECT THEM TAHT THE GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT PROVIDE... NO PROTEST AS AMERICA IGNORE THEIR OWN... WHAT ABOUT THOSE DEFORMED BABIES FROM THE SENIOR BUSH'S MIDDLE-EAST WAR THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS ONLY NOW ADMITTING WHY THESE CHILDREN WERE BORN DEFORMED...ANY PROTEST... AND PUBLICITY...WHY NOT JEN...THESE ARE THE SAME VETS THE A MOSQUE IS GOING TO AFFECT / EFFECT...

GOD WHAT A BRAINWASHED TO BE SUCH PROS IN HATRED AND UNCARING FOR PEOPLE OF THEIR OWN COUNTRY BEING TREATED THIS WAY...IT JUST MAKES ME SICH AND WHY RON PAUL IS SPEAKING OUT ABOUT THIS LOUSY COUNTRY SO DEDICATED TO HETING BECAUSE OF RELIGION ONE UP MAN SHIP...WHO CAN NOT GET TREATMENTS FROM THESE WOUNDS MENTAL AND PHYCIAL LONG TERM BECAUSE THEIR INSURENCE HAS RUN OUT(NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
mE. AND ANYONE ESLE NOT WHITE BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD GO TO A KKK WITHOUT HOODS PUBLIC RALLY IS LUCK TO COME FROM ONE A-L-I-V-E...

BUT WHAT IF HE WAS GOING THERE TO BE ONE OF THEIR TOKENS IS WHAT HAVE ME WONDERING WHY WOULD HE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS...THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE COULD HAVE BELIEVED HE WOULD BE WELCOME...BUT THEN SOME WILL NOT EVEN ALLOW A BLACK EVEN IF PUT THERE AS A TOKEN BE ACCEPTED BY THE HARD CORE ONE...

I SAY THIS BECAUSE THEY KEEP TAKING SOME BLACKS TO PROVE THEY ARE NOT SEGRAGETED...IS TIS WHAT HAPPENED HERE...GLEEN BECKS SWERS HE WILHAVE BLACK SUPPORTERS THERE...

UUUUUM IS WHAT COMES TO MY MIND.(NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
hEY sTEVE, YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD GO PERFECT WITH THIS BLOG...RACHAEL PROGRAMS LAST FRIDAY AND TODAY OF "SCARE THE WHITE FOLKS" THEY ARE PRICELESS...i DO HOPE YOU CAN GET THE TAPES OF THIS. CNN AT 8PM HAD AN INTERVIEW WITH RON pAUL...PLEASE TRY AND GET THIS ALOW...THESE PEOPLE ARE OFF THEIR ROCKER...R.P. HIT NERVES AS ONLY HE CAN DO AND HE WAS UPSET GIVING THAT INTERVIEW HE WAS TELLING THE DOCTOR (ANDERSON COOPER WAS NOT ON TONIGHT...HE TOLD THE DOCTOR WHY WAS HE GOING OFF AND ON TO HIS SON WHEN IT WAS HIM THAT WAS TALKING...AGAIN I HOPE YOU CAN GET THEM....

YOU GO RPAUL!!!!!! (SMILE)
THANKS STEVE...WE PICKED A GREAT MAN TO BACK HAVEN'T WE???(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Thanks Steve for looking for those videos...

but, what do you mean by "posting a Ron Paul blog that could be accepted by BIA"?...

"I" am a member of BIA and I 'believe that we are only about .01% anti-truth / reality on this site. lol (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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