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By Joseph Allen.... taken from his book "Exploring the Lands of the Book of Mormon"

And it came to pass, as they understood they cast their eyes up again towards heaven; and behold, they saw a Man descending out of heaven; and he was clothed in a white robe; and he came down and stood in the midst of them.... (3 Nephi 11:8)

INTRODUCTION

Virtually all 16th‑Century writers wrote about a white god called Quetzalcoatl (KATES‑ALL‑CO‑OUGHT‑ALL). This tradition is strong and repetitive. Every school child in Mexico studies Quetzalcoatl and knows the importance of his role.

The symbol of the serpent has long been associated with deities of Mexico and Guatemala. In the Aztec language, the word "coatl" means serpent. By placing the Aztec word "quetzal" in front of the word "coatl" we have the word, "Quetzalcoatl". The word "quetzal" means feathers. A beautiful bird, native to Guatemala, carries the name quetzal. Quetzalcoatl, therefore, means, "feathered serpent," or serpent with precious feathers. (See our web site for illustration} The word quetzal is the name of the coin in Guatemala and also is the national symbol of the country.

Throughout pre-Columbian Mexican history, scores of individuals, both mythological and real, were given the name or title of Quetzalcoatl. Attempts also have been made to attribute the name Quetzalcoatl to only one person. The following quotations are indicative of what is said about Quetzalcoatl.

~ In all of America's past no figure is more exciting, more tantalizing, or more frustrating than that of the Fair God Quetzalcoatl; (Irwin 1963:33)

Quetzalcoatl was a man of comely appearance and serious disposition. His countenance was white, and he wore a beard. His manner of dress consisted of a long, flowing robe. (Ixtlilxochitl: 45)

Just as our era began with Christ, so that of the Aztecs and their predecessors began‑approximately at the same time‑with Quetzalcoatl. His image, the plumed serpent, had for pre‑Columbian people the same evocative force as has the Crucifix for Christianity. (Sejourne 1957:25)

The story of the life of the Mexican divinity, Quetzalcoatl closely resembles that of the Savior‑, so closely indeed, that we can come to no other conclusion than that Quetzalcoatl and Christ are the same being. (Taylor 201)

We should, however, exercise caution as we correlate Jesus Christ and Quetzalcoatl as identical personages because of the fact that a 10th‑Century culture hero called Ce Acatl Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl took upon himself the title of the deity Quetzalcoatl. (As well as many others) Nevertheless, the deity Quetzalcoatl apparently had its origin in the visit of Jesus Christ to the American continent. (See Allen 1970.)

Similarities of Christ and Quetzalcoatl include the following:

1. Both Christ and Quetzalcoatl were recognized as creator of all things. (Mosiah 4:2; Saenz 1962:19, 40)

2. Both Christ and Quetzalcoatl were born of virgins. (Alma 7: 10; Gamiz 95)

3. Both Christ and Quetzalcoatl are described as being white or as wearing a white robe. (3 Nephi 11:8; Torquemada 47)

4. Both Christ and Quetzalcoatl performed miracles. (3 Nephi 26:15; Sejourne 136‑137)

5. Both Christ and Quetzalcoatl taught the ordinance of baptism. (3 Nephi 11:23; Irwin 1963:170)

6. Both Christ and Quetzalcoatl prophesied of future events. (Ixtlilxochitl: 40)

7. Both Christ and Quetzalcoatl were universal as opposed to just being recognized as local gods. (3 Nephi 16: 1; Sejourne 1962)

8. A great destruction was associated with both Christ and Quetzalcoatl at exactly the same time period in history. (3 Nephi 8:5; Ixtlilxochitl: 40)

9. The cross was a symbol to both Christ and Quetzalcoatl. (3 Nephi 27:14; Irwin 1963:165)

10. Both Christ and Quetzalcoatl sent out disciples to preach their word. (3 Nephi 12:1; Wirth 1978:55)

11. Both Christ and Quetzalcoatl promised they would come a second time. (2 Nephi 6:14; Sahagun 1:40)

12. A new star is associated with both Christ and Quetzalcoatl. (3 Nephi 1:21; Anales de Cuauhtitlan 7)

13. The children of both Christ and Quetzalcoatl will become lords and heirs of the earth. (4 Nephi 1: 17; Ixtlilxochitl: 40)

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White God's..... had me worried there.... I'm a Baptist... didn't know about that..... Apparently Mormons are into this white god stuff!
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 5:25PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
good blog sis
we all want to dispel the thinking of the white man ans some sell out n*ggas i see a lot of black uncle toms trying to put the white mans god on black people ,the uncle toms need to get a grip because they serve the white mans god doesn't mean that we who are seekers of the truth will just fall for the fake uncle toms statements as facts !
im loving this !
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 5:33PM
DAVID JOHNSON
thank you... what next do you think the muslim of a new nation will come up with next?
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 5:38PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
try to sell you a book that aint worth **** or cry like a baby and get the hell out the way so us real black folks can get our knowledge together !
you can the stupid **** that the ass is posting and it is a shame someone will go through the wrong hoops to get proven that no matter how smart you think you are ,,there is some one smarter ,,,and right now its you and i that are the smart ones
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 5:45PM
DAVID JOHNSON
Thank you..... As Irma says we must EDUCATE...
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 5:59PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
This is very good reading:

Aztec is a historical fiction novel by Gary Jennings. It is the first of five novels in the Aztec series.

The book is written as a series of letters from the Bishop of the See of New Spain to King Carlos of Spain containing a transcribed biography of Mixtli (Full named Chicóme-Xochitl Tliléctic Mixtli, "Seven Flower Dark Cloud", in Nahuatl), an elderly Aztec man, by Spanish Catholic monks during the 16th century.

The novel portrays the entirety of the life of Mixtli-Dark Cloud, who is asked by Bishop Juan de Zumárraga to tell about his life, since King Carlos I of Spain (Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor) wants a chronicle of what Aztecs were like. Born to ordinary parents and afflicted with poor sight, Mixtli nonetheless rises quickly through the hierarchy of Mexican society, becoming a scribe, a wealthy trader, a renowned warrior, and eventually a lord of Tenochtitlan and a highly-respected councilor to Moctezuma II. The novel chronicles Mixtli's many adventures, which will take them through all of the Aztec Empire ("The One World") and beyond. The 'composer' of the novel, Bishop Juan de Zumárraga, is often commented upon by the narrator, who notes when the Bishop arrives to hear generally lurid details of human sacrifice and s*xual impropriety, and often leaves just as quickly in disgust. The Bishop's introductions to the various chapters of the chronicle often express his loathing for Mixtli and his weariness with recording what he considers to be the biography of a heathen and a sinner.

The novel faithfully recreates a great deal of geographic historical places and history, particularly that involving the conquest of Mexico by Hernán Cortés. Jennings, through Dark Cloud, presents generally accurate portrayals of the events surrounding a number of actual historical figures, their names usually rendered in traditional Nahuatl. This includes descriptions of many rulers ("Revered Speakers") of many civilizations such as Ahuizotl and Moctezuma II of the Mexíca, Nezahualpilli of the Acolhua or Patzínca of the Totonaca. La Malinche (rendered Cé-Malinali, "One Grass" in Nahuatl, and later self-proclaimed "Lady Grass", Malintzin), the shipwrecked Gerónimo de Aguilar and Gonzalo Guerrero, as well as Hernán Cortés himself and many of his retinue.

The novel's narrator maintains a voice of careful criticism of Spanish authorities throughout the novel. Though he professes himself a Christian, much of the novel is devoted to detailed discourse regarding Aztec religion, including a great deal of information regarding the gods Quetzalcoatl, Tlaloc, Huitzilopochtli, Tonatiuh, and especially Ehecatl. The novel also does not shy from depictions of ritual human sacrifice. Throughout the novel, Mixtli criticizes not only Christianity, but also the Spaniards' hypocrisy in espousing Christianity while simultaneously engaging in acts of great violence and degradation toward the native Mexicans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_%28nove...


Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 6:27PM
Adam Fate
intresting Adam/Steve/Deist/??? i find it remarkable.. my baptist religion doesn't teach this....
I wander why the Mormons are into this stuff?
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 6:30PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
thank you My Lady.... (( ;-) ))
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 6:39PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
cynthia,

Adam taught you something a few months ago about Languages, I pray that you do not forget things you learn in Medicine like you forget His wise words.

above you say, " His countenance was white, and he wore a beard. His manner of dress consisted of a long, flowing robe. (Ixtlilxochitl: 45)

In Spanish--2010 this is its translation---not 16th Century Spanish or Latin.

Su semblante era blanco y llevaba una barba. Su manera de vestir consistía en una larga, que fluye la túnica. (Ixtlilxochitl: 45).

This Spanish translation came from the Language of the Aztec; which you rightly point out above was a picture language with NO European Alphabet Similarity.

How do you write "white" in pictures?

In any Language.

Then you say a "christ" and a bird picture made the Creation.

Do you see how silly this is?

Do learn something anywhere you go in your life and don't forget to THINK.


Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 6:45PM
powell robert
Robert... words to live by.... you like my post?
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 6:48PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
im sorry sis i must have let the door open and a piece of **** r/p followed me in
you are doing a good job just dont let them try do discourage you !
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 6:53PM
DAVID JOHNSON
it is ignorance.

and if you want someone to believe this is the work of a 213 IQ, I now realize why you and the apeBoy get along so well.
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 6:54PM
powell robert
thanks Robert... u'd have to blame our mothers for this... she said I gotta keep him...

D... it's cool I understand Robert... can't be too hard on him.... he'll throw his tantrums wit the quickness...

Robert where did you leave your sand box?? I'll go find it....
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 6:59PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
At least show 50 IQ by staying on your "white" bird Subject.

I stay in sand boxes most days, I Educate Children.


Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 7:04PM
powell robert
50% is low substandard... intelligence...

well you need to bring your sand box over here...

white bird subject... see you don't get it.... this blog is in response to comments regarding christians worships of a white god.... read my comments above...
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 7:11PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
my scholarly aptitude is 213...

Hell... i don't know about worshipping white gods!! birds...
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 7:13PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
he doesent read
white people love to react !
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 7:15PM
DAVID JOHNSON
again,

you are correct, the subject, if you pasted it from some source, must have had importance in yourMind----your 213 IQ threw it out to BIA?

To my 67 IQ, I see the subject as Foolishness and Falsehood to an ape, a bird, man or---

what is a christ?


Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 7:18PM
powell robert
the Messiah prophesied...
The Son of God.... The Son of the Virgin Mary

The Apostles Creed
The only son of God the Father
Having the Virgin Mary as mother
Crucified on the authority of Pontius Pilate
Having been dead and buried
Having "descended into hell" or "descended to the dead"
Rising from the dead after 3 days or "on the third day"
Having "ascended into heaven"
Sitting "at the right hand" of God
Destined to return to earth, and then to pass judgment on all humans who have ever lived


Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 7:28PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
no jail time just yet... plus we gotta keep you out... so you can bail us out.... OH I'm in special training with Colin Powell..... David is being watched.... sssshhh... by the fbi.... You know what they did to Dr. King....
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 7:36PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
yes,

IsaIbnMaryam will be the end of the Christ, the antiChristian.

Ameen........
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 7:40PM
powell robert
Cynthia this was a very interesting and learning blog. One is never to old to learn so I've learn a little bit more.
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 8:18PM
MIISRAEL Bride
thank you my sista....
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 8:26PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Me too! I enjoy her gestures, her charming humor, even her antics with criticism are always welcoming... and to the point.

Love me some Honey Bee!!
I love u too, IG {Irma Girl}
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 8:34PM
MIISRAEL Bride
thanks... gotta have a spin... it can become a bit touchy on this site...

and I guess I got Robert's question correct about Christ.... correct...
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 9:34PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Cynthia, a technical question. Where did you get the video for your blog? I need to figure out why it won't play on my system.
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 9:40PM
Adam Fate
oh... I started to post a video but I attached a photo then deleted it.... sorry
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 9:45PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Oh okay. Thanks.
Sunday, November 14th 2010 at 10:31PM
Adam Fate
thanks everyone... I hope you all got something out of this....a certain muslim seem to think that Christians worship White Gods or something.... GOD has no color... at least the ONE I serve... So let's start dismissing all of the myths....
Monday, November 15th 2010 at 2:10AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
simply fascinating...
Monday, November 15th 2010 at 2:14AM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
Hello to All,

The bottom line is that Black Americans are a people that does not have their own, am I right. Why it is that so-called Christian Black Americans could believe in a Jewish man, Jesus and some so-called Black American Muslims could believe in an Arab man, Prophet Mohammed; but, these same ignorant Black Americans finds it difficult to believe that God would send us a Black American prophet of our own.

It is a case of psychological self hatred. In other words, Black Americans subliminally were made to feel so inferior about themselves that it is easy for us to believe that what God has given to others we are not worthy of having for ourselves, am I right.

Tell me what you think.

Monday, November 15th 2010 at 11:44AM
Harry Watley
What does what you just said have to do with the Aztecs Harry?
Monday, November 15th 2010 at 12:02PM
Adam Fate
Harry is showing his weakness!!!
Monday, November 15th 2010 at 10:13PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
...I will say this and leave so someone else can comment...preaching in thename of God to promote and justify slavery ofr money is no different that the oil spills in america or wars in the middle-east 1000s dying form tainted medications and poisoned toys...

as it is all about making the almight dollar in the name of a few in a CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AS THE PERFeCT MIND CONTROL AND CONSCIOUS SOOTHER...(NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
iT IS SO IRONIC TAHT RIGHT NOW ON TEH hiSTORY CHANNEL they are showing a repeat program of the Decoding history series they run...this eposode is called THE MAYAN PROPHECY OF DOOMSDAY"..OR...

a scientific look into how correct the predictions of the Mayan calander has been and still is as scientist catch up with how accurate it is. (smile)example,
It predicted taht ?"cortez would arrive on March 5, 1550 and it happened. What it says about the earth for 2012 has happened and does every 25,000 years.example,

The magnitic north proves this to be true....

(smile)

Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@MIIARAEL, "I" love the way Doc, is the magic bullet taht makes a bad situation fun to be a part of...now if that is not nuts it is just fun. lol OOOOOOOOOOOOO (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
robert, our president is back in America...I am going to go spend so quality time on him...still trying to find out if he is a Christian or A Muslim...

by the way HULKEBEE 'S PROGRAM JUST CAME ON, ON FOX AND HIS THEME TODAY IS TO TEACH AMERICA WHY IT IS THAT BLACKS VOTE FOR OBAMA...(S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...Gleen Beck is a Mormon...(so I am sure that kills even the notion of dark skin out the door)

and, "I" am willing to bet that J. Smith is rolling over in his grave right about now. (back (otfl) (smile)

CAN ANYONE SAY "JAIL TIME"...LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
HI doc. I guess that is my cue (looooooooooool)to say someting I believe is very, very important to/ in/ for Education!!!!

The Gods of respecting the earth is different in the Gods that says the earth is to be conqured by man...

dirty the drining waters and air and lands for prophets (as in monitary prophets) and protecting this fplanet or the coming generations as these peoples did then and now...

you know all of those savages who need to be saved. (NUP)...but we will get back to teh basics before we self distruct. (smile)

great post Cynthia as always. (smile)


Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...I meant monitary PROFITS as in the almighty $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ worshipers . (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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