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Parents are getting younger in the black community. Good morals, values and conscious displine, consequently is growing weaker. The "anything goes" mentality breaks down the young black female's resistance to the advances by caucasian boys. As a scientist, this creation rides on top of rules known as natural laws. Its ability to sustain itself, largely depends on each species acting loving itself. That way, the giraffe will always mix with another giraffe so we can continue to experience giraffes on earth. When the giraffe give up on loving other giraffes and start allowing zebras to mix with it, creation breaks down. At the human level of existance, it is the same thing. Humans are divided by race and the beginning of value for our species to preserve itself relies on natural selection of each kind to their own. Young black women in America must learn to love their own kind through reading more books, through better selection of friends and peers and through the pride which comes from knowledge of self. White guys have been using black girls and women for 1000s of years. The ideal story is that of Halle Berry who has lost all sense of pride and with all her money and beauty had a no good white punk call her a Ni_g_a......This is the epitomy of ignorance. Oprah Winfrey has no husband with all her wealth. Again, it starts with self pride and understanding the basics of creation which is to love self and procreate after yourself.
Posted By: jamal Abraham
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 10:08AM
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The easy cop-out for my people is to put everything off on religion. Common sense is not about religion rather more about basic reasoning ability of a human being. If the young black woman will use THAT it should be sufficient to keep on stepping when the caucasian guy begins his advances.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 10:14AM
jamal Abraham
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We are only one species, homo sapiens. Unless you choose to IGNORE science. And there is less genetic diversity among homo sapiens than among chimpanzees. And there is more than one species of chimpanzee but only one of humans. That is science my friends, not to be confused with religion.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 11:06AM
Steve Williams
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Saint....I would not start out teaching a child, Trigonometry when they have not got a firm handle on adding and subtracting. My point is that first, young Black ladies in America need to understand that that are rules and natural laws and consequences if these laws are disavowed. There are consequences if a young black women of African descent s*xually mixes with a caucasian and it is not good. Most of that which is no good can be considered "unseen". Because it takes place in the biology and chemistry of her body which adnormally impacts her body. The "seen" part of the no good is the impact on her family, her community and her physchology.
Thus, to begin with, African American women should date, mix and marry people of color. An African American women that date, mixes with a chinese is much greater than one dating and mixing with a caucasian which is the "opposite" of her kind and race. It is the furthest extreme of the spectrum of human beings and should be avoided at all cost.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 11:26AM
jamal Abraham
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STATEMENT BY MILDRED LOVING, June 12, 2007
On The 40th Anniversary of the Loving vs. Virginia Supreme Court Decision
When my late husband, Richard, and I got married in Washington, DC in 1958, it wasn’t to make a political statement or start a fight. We were in love, and we wanted to be married.
We didn’t get married in Washington because we wanted to marry there. We did it there because the government wouldn’t allow us to marry back home in Virginia where we grew up, where we met, where we fell in love, and where we wanted to be together and build our family.
You see, I am a woman of color and Richard was white, and at that time people believed it was okay to keep us from marrying because of their ideas of who should marry whom.
When Richard and I came back to our home in Virginia, happily married, we had no intention of battling over the law. We made a commitment to each other in our love and lives, and now had the legal commitment, called marriage, to match. Isn’t that what marriage is?
My generation was bitterly divided over something that should have been so clear and right. The majority believed that what the judge said, that it was God’s plan to keep people apart, and that government should discriminate against people in love. But I have lived long enough now to see big changes. The older generation’s fears and prejudices have given way, and today’s young people realize that if someone loves someone they have a right to marry.
Surrounded as I am now by wonderful children and grandchildren, not a day goes by that I don’t think of Richard and our love, our right to marry, and how much it meant to me to have that freedom to marry the person precious to me, even if others thought he was the “wrong kind of person” for me to marry. I believe all Americans, no matter their race, no matter their s*x, no matter their s*xual orientation, should have that same freedom to marry.
I am still not a political person, but I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 11:28AM
Richard Kigel
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Steve...as a caucasian, it is your kind which we are speaking about. The caucasian should spend their time with their own race instead of traveling the globe, looking for females of color to contaminate. Caucasians will spend huge amounts of money to bring Asians to America for intermixing. Caucasians are well aware that they are just above dog level; their hair, smell, mannerisms and habits. Asians and Africans need to wise up to the true nature of caucasians and turn to themselves for mixing and loving. Science supports perpetual motion and to destroy a species you mix it with something unnatural....then it time that species will grow extinct....which must be avoided for our people....The art is to be cordial and respectful to all races but when it comes to mixing tell the Caucasian guys to GET LOST.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 11:32AM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal Doctrine #1:
"Caucasians are well aware that they are just above dog level; their hair, smell, mannerisms and habits."
Jamal Doctrine #2:
"The art is to be cordial and respectful to all races."
My question: What??? Didn't you just contradict yourself???
Jamal adds Number One and Number Two and concludes: "When it comes to mixing tell the Caucasian guys to GET LOST."
My comment: You are hilarious!!!
With all the really serious problems we on this planet are facing together, can't you find a more helpful solution than that? I mean, really.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 11:46AM
Richard Kigel
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Someone has to standup and inform the young Black ladies WHAT'S UP. Obviously, they are not listening to their school teachers and parents. To live in the 21st Century with a naive attitude when it comes to courtship is a grave mistake. Religion has its place, but it seems to fail when it comes to the emotion of love.
All animals engage in s*x so for a young black female to have s*x, it is nothing profound. A mocking bird has a birdbrain but is smart enough to mix only with another mockingbird. Having s*x without allowing it to be processed by the brain is living at base-animal level. The ignorant black female that Richard spoke about is an example of a women not using her brain but only using her s*x organs. Virginia is a state that use to hang blacks and now she want to love one who's ancestor's most likely was involved with lynching her foreparents. Again, when you don't engage your brain when involved with romance....grave mistakes will follow.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 12:25PM
jamal Abraham
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@ Richard....It is nice to be able to laugh...as I too often laugh at the ways of your kind. Once I was in the sauna after working out and there were a couple of white guys in the sauna. Then one of the white guys layed down across one end of the bench as if too go to sleep. I said to him..."you better be careful not to go to sleep less you wake up and be as dark as me"....he said to me....."no chance of that..I am not that lucky". So we both got a big laugh.
It is not me that sleep with dogs and bring them into my bedroom. It is not me that has hair all over my back. It is not me that smell animal-like when getting wet. It is not me that sheds hair in the bathroom. It is not me that kisses dogs in the mouth. It is not my kind of people that has a history of mixing with dogs, sheep and monkeys. If the truth hurts, it is not my fault.
Yet, even though caucasian are dog-like, We, the original people of the planet earth should respect them...short of having to intermingle with them. So if you want to laugh..............lets all laugh.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 12:34PM
jamal Abraham
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Saint....you are much smarter than too say that all Turks and Persians are caucasian.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 12:36PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal, since you are in the minority, someone who does not know the meaning of SPECIES, I am not concerned. But I'm not laughing either. In any event, the young people know what is right and proper, and these color discriminations will become a thing of the past. I also refuse to answer to being of the white race. Such a concept is ludicrous, and on a recent entrance questionnaire I put my race down as African, the original and only race, i.e. species. This was for an institution of higher learning, but obviously there are many, even those with higher education, whose minds, in spite of their education, are still in the dark ages.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 1:15PM
Steve Williams
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@saint...I'd like to address you and your claim about the Persians but it is away from the point of THIS blog. Here, we are making the case of our AFrican American women being tricked and deceived by caucasian guys that "we are all the same". I have spoken to many caucasian on this subject that have "science degrees" ...that are knowledgeable on this subject and have agreed with me that the genetic trait of African origin is differant than that of Caucasian. What these young black ladies are looking at is the "money" and comfortable lifestyle enjoyed by white people in this country and have some notion that many of their problem will float away if they mix with these people. Also, we are dealing with the unalike attract issue.
This blog points out that despite the money of caucasian and the unalike attractiveness of caucasian..they are still naturally differant than African orign people....they are of a differant species and kind and have been classified in many circles as the DEVIL race. African American women do themselves a great disservice to engage in romance with these caucasian people.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 1:49PM
jamal Abraham
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Saint...black Israelites have nothing to stand on...they have no state, they have country, no government, no oil, no gold, no diamonds, no real wealth. All they seem to have are big mouths which is hardly enough to claim anything. A magnetic dipole has two extremes.....plus and negative and that's it. The opposite of the original people are the caucasian people....what you are speaking about is basically mute.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 2:08PM
jamal Abraham
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Young Black women in America have much to look forward to in the 21st Century. Home to the finest and most equipped colleges and universities of the world, they should target a good education and solidarity in family. The challenges are enormous, though, including being sought after by the caucasian guys which can and will contaminate the biology of the sister. In addition, she becomes on the "wrong" side of the creator that put in place consequences that are disheartening and in some cases deadly.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 2:19PM
jamal Abraham
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Saint...the Arabs and Iranians smell just fine. The caucasians really do not need you to defend them. They are doing quite well without your rant. What has a fowl smell are uncle Tom's. Probably do to them stradling the fence and absorbing God's curse. My advise for all black men and women..that if you find yourself defending the caucasian race....raise your arms up and smell under your arm pit.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 2:41PM
jamal Abraham
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Irma....Sorry that you do not approve of my appearance and skin color. It saddens me because females have in general said that they approve of how I look. But, you call it a defect. I must have a word with my beautician.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 2:46PM
jamal Abraham
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Saint...you are deviating from this blog. That is the ONLY reason you get deleted. Sometime I must delete Harry...if he goes on and on in a rant about something irrelevant. Sometimes I must delete Robert....If he goes on and on about the irrelevant. I must keep the language on the point of the blog. As a direct descendant of Abraham thru Ishmael, almighty God has made me a leader of all African Americans. Anyone who has a problem with that no nothing about the true seed of Abraham. If you want to debate with little Abraham, no problem, but not at the expense of the direction of my blog.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 3:09PM
jamal Abraham
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Irma.....may I suggest you drink a glass of water and take a deep breathe....then come back at me with a question. (smile)
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 3:12PM
jamal Abraham
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Irma...you said "Is that your real picture of you and if so how do you explain your skin color and not say it is due to a M-E-N-T-A-L defect running in your family". DAH.....DAH
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 3:19PM
jamal Abraham
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OK....Lets take this real slow.....if a caucasian has s*x with an African origin woman....it does not change her from being an African Americans woman...she remains the same though contaminated. If he has a child by that caucasian male...the child is a member of the African origin race and NOT a caucasian. Obviously, somewhere in my ancestry, as yours and all other children of American Slaves, there was mixing of the race. At that time it was by force....now there is no slavery and NO force....so we can employ good sense.....we can employ sound rationale......we can articulate good judgement and make better decisions who to mix with....the point to this blog......the best decision an African American female can make is to not or never intermix s*xually with a caucasian male.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 3:33PM
jamal Abraham
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Irma...it is not me....I have no control on the order of your comments. (smile)
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 3:34PM
jamal Abraham
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Saint....you continue to speak about the lineage to Isaac of which African Americans have NO connection. Again...our connection Abraham of old is thru Ishmael that ventured into Africa and his seed likewise. The passage you mention does not merit a case because in verse 8 it reads:
But if the woman is not willing to follow you, then you will be free from this oath of mine:
A choice made is do you follow the lineage of ISAAC which African Americans have no connection or ISHMAEL, Abraham's oldest son which African Americans have a direct connection.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 4:20PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
The essence of your blog is about race. You warned Black American women how spiritually wrong race mixing is to the extent that you eloquently explain the physical consequences as well.
Before we go any further, let me say I am entirely in agreement with you especially for the reasons you gave. However, I want you to see this point as well.
Yes, race is very important. It is by your race that you know who you are and how you came into existence. It is by our race that God visits us to correct the wrongs against us. Another reason that race is important because that is how you will know your prophet since all prophets must be from their own race. You need to correct your self since an Arabian prophet as your own. If God was guiding you, you would have known better. You give up Prophet Mohammed and the religion of Islam to embrace your genuine Prophet Harry and your religion LIFE.
When you say that God has made you a leader of all Black Americans is not true because the prophet you embrace is an Arabian man and you are not of the same race as Prophet Mohammed is. It would be out of order that God would rise up a Black American to teach the Arabian people's Gospel as Black America's salvation. Islam could never be our salvation since the crusade is put a stop to the spread of Islam over a thousand years ago, am I right. God has not visited you and that you are lying. Again, Black America's prophet must be a Black American with a gospel specifically designed for Black America's salvation.
In addition, if God had made you a leader of Black Americans God would have given you our religion as God gave Prophet Mohammed the religion of Islam for the Arabian people and God gave me the religion of LIFE for Black Americans. You would also have a prayer as Prophet Mohammed issued the Arabian people that first prayer and Jesus issued the Jewish people the Lord's Prayer and I have issued Black America's first prayer months ago. If you have not saved it I can easily e-mailed it to you again. The things that I have done other things that signals out a genuine prophet to his people. Am I making any sense with you?
Lastly, your warning to young Black American girls is not workable because we are not sovereign as yet.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 4:30PM
Harry Watley
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As-Salaam Alaikum Brother Jamal:
I hear what you're saying, I give that much to all. Yes, black women in America must learn to love their own kind through reading more books, through better selection of friends and peers and through the pride which comes from knowledge of self.
I do realize that there are some valid (though WRONG) reasons why black women are attracted to white men. Sometimes it's psychological trauma, and it should be addressed professionally. For instance some sisters are physically abused by their relatives, ex-husbands/boyfriends, or other friends of their family and become turned off from black men totally. Other times it's just your everyday Uncle Tomming.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 4:30PM
Siebra Muhammad
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It is so amazing how when I was in Egypt, the Egyptians people always referred to themselves as Egyptians rather than Africans. When in fact, Egypt is a part of Africa. Just because I live in Pennsylvania, that does not excuse me from being an American. So lets be frank......Almighty God told Abraham of OLD that it was OK for him to have a child by the bond woman Hagar, an African beauty.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 4:31PM
jamal Abraham
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And yes I love me some Black Men...FINE BLACK MEN...give me a chocolate brother anytime...
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 4:33PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Wa-Alaikum-Salaam, Sis. Siebra....always appreciate your comments. No doubt that the quantity of responsible Black men are limited in America. Hopefully, it is used as a challenge to the African American woman and not an excuse.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 4:44PM
jamal Abraham
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Harry, I was wondering where you were. Why you wait so long to weigh in.....Again, this is not about religion. For some reason, you have this notion that religion was here before creation....before the natural laws of the universe...before human life. NOT SO. What I speak about is natural human selection. And yes, it is hard to manage, control or govern the marriage of our women without our own land, but at least we can get the language and understanding on the table so it is not a total surprise when our own nation materializes.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 4:50PM
jamal Abraham
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Dear Jamal:
My dear friend—please allow me to respond to several of your points.
About Virginia.
Jamal: “Virginia is a state that use to hang blacks.”
Rich: True. The operative idea here is “used to”. That means it happened a long time ago but not anymore.
In fact, the state of Virginia elected an African-American Governor in 1990. Later, he was elected Mayor of Richmond, the Capital of the Confederacy. So, something changed.
Conclusion: at one time in history your point was valid—but it has passed its expiration date.
Secondly.
Jamal: “Now she want to love one who's ancestor's most likely was involved with lynching her foreparents.”
Rich: Here is a question for you—a serious question. Are you responsible for the behavior of your ancestors?
Be careful about making that assertion—you will have to take responsibility for your African ancestors who kidnapped and sold poor unsuspecting Africans to European slave traders for their own profit.
Of course, this happened centuries ago. But can you really say these people have a real connection to you?
That is why your assertion is ridiculous. You are discounting the fact that we can abhor, detest and condemn our ancestors for their the barbaric actions.
Even in your mind, that should break the connection between 18th and 19th century American slaveholders and their 21st century offspring. Clearly, the citizens of Virginia made that change of heart.
And your theory does nothing to explain those white folks whose ancestors had absolutely nothing to do with slavery.
Third.
Jamal: “Having s*x without allowing it to be processed by the brain is living at base-animal level…It is not me that sleep with dogs and bring them into my bedroom…It is not me that kisses dogs in the mouth.”
Rich: I don’t even know how to begin to respond to that kind of absurdity.
Here is what I will do. In a couple of weeks I will be attending Grandparents Day at my grandbaby’s school. She is a sweetheart. You would love her. Her name is Olivia. She is in fifth grade and she is tall, smart and gorgeous.
She is about your color. Her mom is black, her dad is white.
I will tell her what you are saying about her and her family. I will say, “Olivia, I know a guy who lives in Pittsburgh. He says he wants to ‘standup and inform the young Black ladies WHAT'S UP,’ in his words.”
I will tell Olivia that you, Jamal, think that her father is a no better than a dog. I will tell her how you think that your mother having s*x with your father was like having s*x with an animal. I will tell Olivia that Jamal thinks when your mom and dad got together she was not using her brain.
I will say, “You know what Jamal said? He said that kissing your father is like kissing a dog. And that probably goes for you too, Olivia.”
I wonder what Olivia’s response will be. I bet I know. I have a feeling she won’t react well at all.
And by the way, I won’t even tell Olivia’s mom what you said. Trust me, you don’t ever want to get her angry at you.
So, we’ll see what happens.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 4:52PM
Richard Kigel
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@Saint...it was thru ISHMAEL that the KAABA house was built. All muslims must make a pilgrammage to mecca in their lifetime in honor of the sacrifice of ISHMAEL. Millions of muslims of all nationalities come from all over the planet earth to pay tribute as a result. Therefore, you make a pretty weak case to speak against Abraham's oldest son and expect any blessing from the God of Abraham.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 4:54PM
jamal Abraham
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Richard....will get back with you on your points...must run some errands.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 4:58PM
jamal Abraham
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It's interesting how they aren't more young black ladies responding to this blog...since this message is more intended for their well being than it is for the men...
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 5:42PM
Siebra Muhammad
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A Short History of Race
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Not Exactly Modern Science
By the 19th century, the scientific debate focused on whether human biological difference was just a racial variation, or represented an entirely different species. The "species" theory, polygenism, held that human "races" were of different lineages and suggested a hierarchy outlined in the "Chain of Being" that positioned Africans between man and lower primates.
Polygenism was the antithesis of monogenism, which espoused a single origin theory of humanity consistent with the Bible. Ironically, proponents of slavery were, for the most part, monogenists, because polygeny was incompatible with the Bible.
Edward Long published History of Jamaica in 1774 in England; excerpts were reprinted in the U.S. in 1788. In History of Jamaica, Long compared blacks to animals and outlined a racial hierarchy where blacks were situated between Europeans and orangutans. Long, along with Dr. Charles Whites' Account of the Regular Gradation in Man in 1799, provided the "empirical science" for the species theory. White defended the theory of polygeny by refuting French naturalist George Louis de Buffon's interfertility argument—the theory that only the same species can interbreed—pointing to species hybrids such as foxes, wolves and jackals, which were separate groups that were still able to interbreed.
Naturalist Charles Pickering was the librarian and a curator of the Academy of Natural Sciences. In 1843, he traveled to Africa and India to research human races. In 1848, Pickering published Races of Man and Their Geographical Distribution, which enumerated eleven races.
In the 1820s and 30s, a Philadelphia physician named Samuel G. Morton collected and measured hundreds of human skulls in order to confirm that there were differences among the races—in particular, a difference in brain size. His systematic large-scale experiments made him a pioneer of American race science and physical anthropology. Morton was a proponent of polygenism, which theorized that the different races were different species, with separate origins. Morton amassed a large collection of human skulls from all around the world. He believed he could identify any skull's racial origin simply by measuring it, and developed tables based on his experiments, which involved pouring lead pellets into skull cavities. Morton assigned the highest brain capacity to Europeans—with the English highest of all. Second was the Chinese, third was Southeast Asians and Polynesians, fourth was American Indians, and the smallest brain capacity was assigned to Africans and Australian aborigines. The collection of skulls is now in the museum of the Philadelphia Academy of Natural Sciences. He wrote Crania Americana (1839), An Inquiry into the Distinctive Characteristics of the Aboriginal Race of America and Catalogue of Skulls of Man (1840), and Crania Egyptica (1844). Although Morton was a scientist, he used his influence to make the case for black inferiority to bolster U.S. Secretary of State John Calhoun's efforts to negotiate the annexation of Texas as a slave state. Calhoun was a pro-slavery advocate from South Carolina.
In 1854, Josiah Clark Nott published his racial theories in a book of essays written with George Robins Gliddon, an Egyptologist and follower of Samuel George Morton, entitled Types of Mankind or Ethnological Research. It popularized the polygenist theory. In 1856, Nott and Confederate propagandist Henry Hotze translated Arthur Gobineau's 1853 essay on racial inequality, but with significant omissions and distortions.
In the wake of Types of Mankind, abolitionists and for the first time, African American scholars, engaged in the race science debate. In the political discourse leading up to the Civil War, prominent statesman and abolitionist Frederick Douglass challenged the leading theorists of the American School of Anthropology, which included Nott, Gliddon, Agassiz and Morton, among others. Work by early "race scientists" tried to prove that blacks were not the same species as whites, and alleged that the rulers of ancient Egypt were not Africans. In Douglass' 1854 address, "The Claims of the Negro Ethnologically Considered," he argued that "by making the enslaved a character fit only for slavery, [slaveowners] excuse themselves for refusing to make the slave a freeman..."
http://www.understandingrace.org/history/s...
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 9:03PM
Steve Williams
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OK, Richard...why not forget the white slant and give a more cordial truth, such as....not answering a question with another question. Then you said " Clearly, the citizens of Virginia made that change of heart". That is not necessarly the truth. There are many bigots and KKK still in Virginia and you and I know that.
To your THIRD assertion. Again forget the white caucasian slant. And tell the cordial truth, especially since she is a child. Something like this...."dear Olivia, there is black leadership in this country spreading a message of black nationalism meaning blacks marrying blacks irregardless of circumstances. By their definition, an ounce of black blood accounts for a member of the black race, which by virtue of your mother you do account. While I may not agree with their assertions, their believe in a black state.....a black government......a black nation where their kind meaning your kind can prosper......time will come where you might have to choose between what you have now here in America where white people rule like your father and real nice man....or your mother's kind.....a black nation....the choice will be yours.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 9:12PM
jamal Abraham
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It Gets Better
The Hottentot Venus (Saartjie Baartman) became the focus of scientific debate over racial inferiority waged at the Paris Academy of Science. Baartman was exhibited in carnival-like shows across Britain that sensationalized her unusual anatomy: she had steatopygia, an over-development of fatty tissue around the buttocks, a trait common to Hottentot women, which led to her misidentification. She also had extended labia minora, the so-called "Hottentot apron." A court battle failed to free Baartman from her exhibitors, and in 1814 she was taken to Paris. Her remains were preserved and exhibited in Paris until 1985, and were finally returned to South Africa at the request of Nelson Mandela in 2002.
Race science took a particularly insidious turn in the 19th century when non-Europeans were routinely the subject of so-called scientific exhibitions, carnivals and international fairs that purported to explore racial diversity and ethnicity. The exhibitions examined the notion of racial difference using displays of human beings, designed ostensibly to represent an evolutionary hierarchy. In many exhibits, people were grouped by skin color from the darkest to the lightest, or "lowest" to the "highest" on an evolutionary scale. These “expositions” were a major factor in perpetuating the idea that African, Asian, and Natives were inferior to Europeans and white Americans.
London’s “Great Exhibition of the Works of Industry of All Nations,” which opened in 1851 in the Crystal Palace, was the first international fair. Included in the exhibits were Ethiopian “serenaders” and a “Nubian Court”. Paris also held a fair in 1867, the “Exposition Universelle”, which featured an “anthropological study” of a staged colonial setting. This set a precedent for every international exposition in the years that followed, with a display of either living or photographic examples of non-European peoples. These exhibits not only promoted racial theories but also introduced colonized people as a backward spectacle to contrast with European technological and industrial advancements.
For Millie and Christine McCoy, conjoined twins who were billed as the “Two-Headed Nightingale,” life was much more difficult. Born into slavery, they lived in North Carolina like conjoined twins Chang and Eng Bunker, but were taken from their family and sold several times. They were even put on public display by their owners who recognized the commercial value of the spectacle. The twins were bought by J.D. Smith when they were still toddlers, and he became their manager for stage appearances. The twins were kidnapped by a man Smith hired as their exhibitor while on display in New Orleans. Since the girls were now "stolen property," public showings were out of the question, but they were still exhibited before exclusive private groups. Smith finally found the twins in London after a period of years, and after a protracted legal battle, regained control of them. They were a great success, billed as the "Two-Headed Lady" or the "Two-Headed Nightingale." They spoke several languages fluently, and danced and sang songs as well. The twins were freed after the Civil War, but stayed with their former manager's widow, earning more than six hundred dollars a week.
Amsterdam held the Colonial Exhibition in 1883, which displayed twenty-eight Surinamese in its West Indies section. They were photographed extensively by Prince Roland Napoleon Bonaparte, who was a trained ethnologist and the grandson of Napoleon’s brother. Bonaparte's career in ethnographic photography included photographic albums of North American Indians in 1887 and Lapons in 1890.
The Midway Plaisance in Chicago was the major venue for exhibits of non-Western cultures in the U.S. At the 1893 World’s Columbian Exposition, several “African villages” were constructed at the Midway fairground, where “villagers” were paraded up and down each day before being returned to their display areas. African Americans took exception to the racial stereotyping and constructed their own images of black communities. A pamphlet written by Ida B. Wells-Barnett, journalist and anti-lynching advocate, and abolitionist Frederick Douglass was published in several foreign languages; “The Reason Why the Colored American Is Not in the World’s Columbian Exposition,” expounded on the oppression of African Americans in both the North and South.
The 1904 World’s Fair in St. Louis featured among other attractions a group of pygmies who had been brought in from the Belgian Congo. One of the pygmies was Ota Benga, who, after the exhibit was over, was sent to the Bronx Zoo. The director of the zoo, William T. Hornaday, believed he understood the thoughts of zoo animals. He believed Ota Benga was no different from any other animal in the zoo, and insisted he was only showing an interesting exhibit. Crowds came to the monkey house exhibit, which opened in 1906, to see man's "evolutionary ancestors," which included monkeys, chimpanzees, a gorilla named Dinah, an orangutan named Dohung and the pygmy Ota Benga. Controversy swirled around the extremely popular exhibit, as religious figures objected to the theme of evolution, and the black community was outraged at the treatment of Benga. As a legal compromise, Ota Benga was allowed to leave his cage and walk around the zoo in a white suit; but he returned to the monkey house at night. The pygmy was angered by his treatment, and retaliated in various ways, including brandishing a knife around the park and shooting visitors with a small bow and arrow. This behavior led to his expulsion from the park, and he was sent to the Virginia Theological Seminary and College, which he soon left for work in a tobacco factory. Eventually his depression and anger became too much for the pygmy, and he shot himself in the heart with a borrowed revolver in 1916.
http://www.understandingrace.org/history/s...
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 9:14PM
Steve Williams
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As Sis. Siebra reiterated...more black women are welcome to comment and give their views.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 9:54PM
jamal Abraham
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Steve, interesting account of historical events to study the differances between races. Much of what you have accounted centers on the obvious physical differances. Shape, contour, color and strength. But, what I speak is that which you cannot see. It is going on in the chemistry and biology of the person....sort of under the hood sort of speak. It is what makes the differances in the races more paramount. As a scientist, it is clear to us that the majority of the study of science is about which the naked eye cannot see but that does not mean that it does not exist.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 10:55PM
jamal Abraham
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My dear friend Jamal:
If I read your text exactly word for word to Olivia, her mom would slap me silly. She doesn't go for that stuff. She is one of those open hearted folks who believes that we are all members of the human race--and that we really should be judging people not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. Exactly like Dr. King.
I think it is funny that you keep advising me to "forget the white slant" and the "caucasian slant". Yes--I would like to do just that. Except you keep bringing it up. It is the central focus of your dog comparison.
I'll make a deal with you. If you forget the white slant, so will I.
Now to Virginia--yes, it is sadly true. "There are many bigots and KKK still in Virginia."
But not enough to prevent Doug Wilder from becoming Governor and Mayor of Richmond. And not enough for President Obama to surprise everyone and carry the largest state in the Old Confederacy.
This ain't 1950. The times are changing, man.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 at 10:57PM
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Brother Richard:
Yes they are!
And everyone needs to get with the program!
First off... "Your women", are not your women!
Real women belong to themselves.
A real Woman who knows who she is, can have any man she wants without anyone's permission.
Even some young women know the meaning of that, the ones who have self esteem, self-pride and self -worth.
I noticed that in the quest to mention race mixing, nothing was said about Black Men with White Women. Hummm, that's curious.
Love finds you, if you're worthy to be found.
Never say never, it may come at you one day and bite you in the behind.
If you'd like to get technical, we all came out of Africa, have you been on top of DNA lately?
The Black race is no longer Black, as in the color/Race we once knew. Nonetheless, it's still Black!
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 12:22AM
Min.Dr.LaDonna Blaylock D.D.
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Interesting dialogue, but I don't allow anyone to tell me who I can and can not love. To each his/her own, but last time I looked this was still a free country.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 12:45AM
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Hello Richard,
All though you do not respond to me; nevertheless, I find it very necessary to explain to you what I know that Jamal is saying. Jamal wants for Black Americans a sense of self worth and being. The concept of self worth and being is rooted in purity and sovereignty.
Black Americans could never achieve a sense of self worth and being when the Caucasian race or any other race come into our women at will and fertilized them. Since we are not sovereign yet we do not have the ability to stop White men from destroying our race. It carries over into our security of survival as a specific race of Black Americans. The children of Israel in ancient times as well as in modern days neither liked nor allowed other races to breed their women, am I right.
I personally would like to see it stop. I am 66 years old and I have never copulated with a White woman. I have never seen a White woman naked except in magazines. All the women I have had were my own Black women.
Again, the bottom line that Jamal is making is that he wants Black Americans to be sovereign and have self worth. I assure you that Black Americans are going to become a sovereign people on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to worship God, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.
Black Americans do not want to be a part of White America. We want White America to have their own, just as we want to have our own.
The children of Israel did not want to be a part of Egypt. The children of Israel wanted Egypt to have their own just as the children of Israel wanted to have their own and God separated the two races through the Exodus, am I right.
It seems to me that our desire as Black Americans to have our own, self-worth and a sense of being troubles you and Steve. I believe it is because psychologically speaking White people has this notion that they must dominate others because they are superior.
You are trying to psychologically run a self guilt trip on Jamal using Ms. Olivia.
Okay,
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 12:51AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
Before I begin I want to congratulate you on your response to Steve that it is what's under the hood that counts. It is what we feel from our ancestors that they don't see and feel since they are not descendents of slaves as we are. They believe we are animals. They believe we should not be able to feel for our ancestors and our women and for ourselves. Therefore, in their eyesight and in their hearts we are animals.
Okay now I'll respond to what you said about religion. Jamal, religion is your faith. Your faith is how you think and what motivates you. Faith and reasoning are like two wings. You need both wings in order to fly. One without the other can not get you air-born. Get my drift? So, religion is very important.
It was religion that got the children of Israel out of Egypt and it will be our religion LIFE that will make White America let us go to be sovereign free on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.
It will not be the religion of Islam or Christianity. It has to be a religion that belongs to us and given to us by God through our very own genuine Prophet Harry.
Did not the same thing happen with Prophet Mohammed and the Arabian people that it was the religion of Islam that set them free from paganism that God gave to them through Prophet Mohammed?
Our own thinking cannot get us out of this 500 year old divine mess. We tried civil rights with Dr. King. We tried separation with Mr. Elijah Muhammad. Neither the concept of Dr. King and Elijah worked, am I right. It will take a genuine prophet and religion comes along with a first new prophet to get us out of this. Am I making any sense with you?
I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world.
Tell me what you think.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 1:49AM
Harry Watley
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Ms. LaDonna,
I like what you said. Now I have a question I've brought up before and if I read you correctly I think you may agree with me. I was asked on my application to a Master of Science program what I considered my race to be. (Excuse me everyone that has heard this already.) I first contacted the Graduate Admissions office and said I didn't wish to answer the question, but I was told I must. Note first it is a subjective question, my opinion, therefore no wrong answer or lying possible. I was given five choices (and this is one problem with the race question, how many races exactly are there?) Anyway I chose the answer "black or African American" as the only possible answer consistent with my scientific beliefs. Did I mess up affirmative action or skew the results of these inputs into the system that are said to be necessary for social equity, or did I advance the cause of social equity or just simply attempt to answer as close to the scientific truth as possible?
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 7:04AM
Steve Williams
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Gary, Thanks for weighing in...as usual you add comprehensive research to your responses which is appreciated. Further, just as the white blood cells in the body come to the rescue in protecting the body should disorder conditions arise, each human species has its defending cells to respond to race balance disorders. Please consider the drive and mission of little Abraham in accord with THAT.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 9:46AM
jamal Abraham
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The key component here is "Balance"!
No scientist on earth can identify, pin-point, or measure this balance. Only Supreme Intelligence can comprehend the vast depth of what I'm attempting to say here. Why do I say this? Because they created it in the first place.
Brother Steve,
You answered the question to the best of your ability according to your belief. Your answer enlightened those who presented the question. You gave them a prospective that they may, or may not have considered.
You advanced them.
Someone mentioned character, it is the character and belief ,of a person that makes them stand firm in their actions. Such as was in your case.
In fact, the Creator that created us all, created our true nature which is pure awareness. We cannot be the observer ( awareness) of an object ( the body) and also be that object. In the equation of our own personal existence and what we believe, ( about race, who we are, where we came from, etc.), we are that which is aware. Our true nature, ( so-called humans, ( Hue-Mans), is awareness itself.
We are told that we are made in God's image which is to say we are beings of spirit and not flesh. ( no matter the race), We are told that God is a spirit.
We have discovered from Quantum Physics, that matter depends on an observer ( awareness) for its existence and not visa versa. So awareness does not arise from the body or brain. Our bodies arise as manifestations in the field of our own primal awareness.
We need to look beyond the level of understanding and knowledge we have gained in our experiences and continue to seek further wisdom.
Each one should get to know themselves, their history, their own, preferences and ways.
We are meant to gain experience and to grow.
No matter what's on the table!
You advanced the cause of social equity, you opened eyes and gave food for thought to those who needed it.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 11:01AM
Min.Dr.LaDonna Blaylock D.D.
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Harry, your point that religion is a part of motivation has merit. Though religion is opinionated meaning it establishes right and wrong. You can have motivation without religion for example preparations to go to war. Here it is kill or be killed. Analysts may suggest, that it was the wrong thing to do but beyond that there is a point of self preservation that existed prior to religion.
It is that vein that I mention that young African American ladies should not date, mix or intermix with white guys in the name of preservation of the black race. To move the blood back toward purity instead of further away from it.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 11:11AM
jamal Abraham
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@Jen....thanks for your point and I know what you are saying. My 4 sisters help remind me of it all the time. Wondering, though, whether you ever played cards, like tunk or bid wys or poker because if you have you are aware it is always nice to have an ACE in your hand and not show it or play it when it is tempted. Why....because then you can use it when you really need it.
Sure, every Women has free will....but a loose cannon puts everyone in danger; men and women.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 11:17AM
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a negroAmerican is already a "zebra"
an african that accepts paganChristianity is a paganChristian
an asian that accepts paganChristianity is a paganChristian
any european that accepts paganChristianity is a paganChristian
any son/daughter of Adaam(as) that accepts classification by colorWorshipping paganChristians is a paganChristian
the Muslim Man; can, has and will Marry and produce Muslims with any Muslim or nonMuslim on the Planet Earth.
THAT IS WHAT ALLAAH says in AlQur'aan AlHaq------
your argument like all your 'blackie/whitie" arguments is paganChristian THought from kingJames
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 11:18AM
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Dr. Blaylock, its always nice to hear from you. And yes, we must also address the issue of young black men and some of them driving to intermix with white women. That, will be another blog. My experiences is to separate matters so we can best focus on the peculiarities between each. You said "A real Woman who knows who she is, can have any man she wants without anyone's permission". Absolultely, the creator of humans decided he wanted to give us humans free will. To balance the free will, he gave us a thinking brain capable of reasoning, which supposedly puts us above an animal. Certainly, you will agree that engagement in s*x without resolve, discretion and distinguish-ability could lead to STDs, AIDS and maybe even death. On that line of thinking and in the climate of promisquity gone wild, should thinking parents have their daughters exercise precaution when it comes to their precious bodies ? If the answer is yes, then perhaps we should let that same precaution take shape ?
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 11:20AM
jamal Abraham
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Thinking parents?
As we know, how can you give something you don't have yourself?
It's a little late to implement a plan to try and curve the thoughts of race mixing, if that is a cause. It's taken it's own course.
You're going to have a tough time explaining your position, ( nature of this blog), especially for those who will claim that it's none of your business who they mate with for one.
All we can do is present history, the effects, and try to enlighten them.
Better late than never, ( if this is the position you're taking with this).
Because of what you mentioned, ( free will), people are going to do what they want.
God knows this already, so that is why it still, no matter what will balance itself out.
The seed of the Black Man creates black no matter where it's planted.
In time you'll realize that we are all a part of one, and it is through another's spirit that you connect with them and create amazing things to happen for those who are oppressed.
This is the bottom line, and all that really matters.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 11:27AM
Min.Dr.LaDonna Blaylock D.D.
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Thanks, great blog, there's a lot of good stuff on here.
I just thought I would chime in.
Now,... I think I'm going to leave for now.
Peace.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 11:42AM
Min.Dr.LaDonna Blaylock D.D.
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Turn on the news on TV or go to the store and obtain the local newspaper. Better yet, turn on the radio or go to your web browser on your Cell phone. Now, after all of that, write down on a sheet of paper everything you hear about the black israelites in America making news. Now, the next day, do the same thing and write down what you hear or read about Islam making news. In the first case if you right down "1" word we both would be surprised but, in the second case..you will run out of paper or ink. What does that tell you. The black israelites in America are as close to irrelevant as you can get.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 11:47AM
jamal Abraham
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saint,
you know I think you are a smart and good looking guy
but I thought steve had enlightened you already!
please---
we do have an israel Nation--am I correct?
that israel will not accept YOU
israel will accept ME
when was the last time YOU saw an IMAM or for that matter, a MUSLIM ----- running?
your 'scholarship' is based on the same thing harrys'Prophethood and father/son and holyGhost are based on ---funny smoke and mirrors--and a couple of guys on the street in NY !
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 12:20PM
powell robert
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Damn... Will YOU GUYS never learn?
One of the reasons that I limit my comments (here on BIA) is due to the redundancy. We have talked and preached over and over again about how we are the same but not...
Were you all listening when we discussed the true beginnigs of mankind? Do you not hear what Richard is saying? Can you all claim and dis-own family members who do not look like you? How about our Grandmothers and Grandfathers...would you not love them if they were Black or White or in between? Can you describe your family background as infinitely pure?
THE MEANING IS FREEDOM...FREEDOM TO MARRY AND RELATE WITH WHOMEVER YOU WISH!
Many folks died so that you and I could enjoy the peace of choosing and living with whomever you/we choose as a mate!
What is the matter with YOU?
Steve and Rich are not here to be targeted - they are OUR FRIENDS! There are many other folks who choose (and have chosen) to be with members of other nationalities, cultures, and so-called races. Are you willing to turn back to things the way they were? Would you like to see your relatives hanging for simply reaching out and touching a person of another color?
I am a person who PRIDES ONESELF IN BLACKNESS - I truly believe that you should all (those of you who believe in separation) re-evaluate your positions... Look again, My brethren...are we the ones in charge or are we the ones to take charge? God has a plan... Would you believe that?
Ask our BROTHER, BARACK H. OBAMA - ask him what he thinks of you and your separatists
attitudes and/or positions.
You're not ashamed of him are you? Bi-racial people are becoming a proven lot (if they ever had to be); are they the "True Chosen People as opposed to the so-called singular raced people?"
What are you afraid of?
Have you all (People of Color) not been subjected to hate, disenfranchisement, segregation, ridicule, and separation long enough?
What will your children do?
Enough is Enough...
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Monday, March 28th 2011 at 1:50PM
Gregory V. Boulware, Esq.
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Brother Gary, it's great that you added materialism to the blog. There are some Black women who seek White men out because they see the $$$$$$$$ that comes out of it.
Then there are the ones who seek White men out because they feel that the white man will do things to the Black women that most Black men won't do s*xually (if you know what I mean). Then there are the ones that feel that having a white man by their side means that they are moving up in the world.
I feel that whoever a person decides to marry is a personal choice, but I also feel that just because a black man have abused them, or their fathers weren't around for whatever reason or reasons, that should not be a reason for any black woman (who considers herself strong and highly educated) to not date/marry a black guy.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 2:50PM
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Well, I think we have heard almost the full gamut of from affirmation of concern to free will conflict to the nerve of black people thinking for themselves and not asking white people's permission. Thanks from all of you. It turns out that implementation of this objective is far from hypothetical since a new world order is on the horizon which makes it very much an current issue.
Sis. Siebra....I almost feel sorry for some fast talking white guy trying to talk some lame yang yang with you. For sure, you seem you could handle them.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 3:55PM
jamal Abraham
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@ Brother Jamal,
I see your sisters are very Smart!! ((Lol)) Anyways, I have never liked playing any card game except Go Fish & Uno, but I do have an idea of what the card games are about because I grew up watching my relatives play all sorts of card games including the ones you mentioned. Honestly, I never understood why one needed to hold the ACE when you could just go on and use it. I married my ACE in the Hole, so no need to hold on to it... like for a rainy day, eh? Ha! You think purely like a man always holding on to one woman and having the other ACE in the hole on the side in case the one you're holding doesn't work out. Puhleeze!!!
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 4:35PM
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Jamal etal,
After reading the dialogue based on your original statement, I don't understand why these people who profess non christian beliefs continue to quote the bible as a sourse. I can see that Christine's efforts to educate failed. I do not beieve that there is a biological or athropological difference between so called white people and black people. The two have the same biological make up and can procreate. Giraffes cannot procreate with any thing else but Giraffes. Other species of animals who have the same gestation period can and do mix. Big cats, wolves, dogs, little cats bovines etc.
I believe that it is more important to match in values than skin color. Work ethic and self worth is much more important then skin color. Other values are more important too, integrity, honesty, intelligence, family backgroundI all come before skin color. I have seen some so called white people look blacker that you do. So where do you draw the line.
What will you do about your family members who have no melanin. Will you teach the children to hate them? We are already mixed up, how do you plan to purify the offspring of those? There is no pure race. Usually, a girl picks a man like her father. That is what I did. He happened to be an Obama kind but when I was picking, I didn't even know that. I looked for values he happened to be a man of color. I personally prefer a man of color. For me, there is nothing more appealing that a tall man of color regardless of the varying shades. That just happened to be my preference. Most of the time, when we are young, we don't know what we prefer. Personally, I don't see any thing wrong with Rich and Steve. They both have a good heard and good values, which is more important than the color of their skin.
Martin Luther king said, judge a man by the content of his heart not by the color of his skin. Personally, I do not believe he was just talking to so called Caucasians.
The labeling of people by race began in the 19th century by Johnn Buimebach, J. A. Gobineau, and S. H. Chamberling. They were the first to attach skin color as one of the criteria. Blumebach was the first to call white man Caucasians and place them in the caucauses mountain region. There are people of dark skin who are caucasians who live in the area too. This was the root of discrimination and began the move toward enslaving the darker people. Hanging on to skin color as definitive is an obssession indulged in by both so called blacks and so called whites. The definition of a noun is a PERSON, place or thing. Black and white are adjectives. I am a NOUN.
I leave you with this question, How will you explain to OLIVIA that her FATHER is a DOG?
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 5:11PM
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Thomasena...nice to hear from you. It turns out that Forensic Science has matured to be able to determine the race of the remains of a human. Dr. troy Duster and written arcticles on this subject. What they do is first acquire body fluids or tissue. Then they take it through a DNA ID process where they examine 6 loci. The combination data they are able to determine race of fluid/tissue origin. So science backs me up that there are distinguishing characteristics between the human races or they could never use forensic in crime or the court of law.
As far as the matter with Richard and his granddaughter.....truth does not have to be abusive. Nor are we saying that caucasians are dogs, rather, they have a likeness to dogs and have an affinity for dogs but according to the Bible, we call them mankind because caucasian are kind-a-like-a-man. So what I would recommmend to communicate to Olivia a child would be something like this.......that there is black leadership that conveys a viewpoint that asserts a race differance between your mom and dad that puts one race closer to animal than another. So the next time you go to the nature park or the amusement park, Olivia...watch and see how people you see with dogs that are caucasian and how many you see with dogs that are of color like mom. You be the judge.
Lastly, When I post blogs on BIA it is to the hundreds and perhaps thousands of BIA members. It is not directed at two caucasians, Richard and Steve. The fact that Steve and Richard are members of BIA is absolutely their perogative. But, my blogs are not directed at them whatsoever. Of course, they are welcome to comment on any and all of my blogs.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 6:06PM
jamal Abraham
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Irma...I was only mentioning some of my sisters because they sometime remind me of Sis. Jen....that is they solo a tune of free will but in the final analysis they are with a black man. And yes, all of my 4 sisters are welcome and if I was to guess I think that all would go except maybe one who is real obstinent(smile)
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 6:09PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal,
Yes, there are ethnic differences based on many things and I agree that science can identify human species, but they are not based on skin color. To be identified as Black says that I don't have a country and I believe that I do. I really don't care what others call me, what I call myself is the utmost important. People all over the world are identified by language, foods, culture, religion, ancestory and land. Black Americans are the only people identified the way we are. If one looks like me or you and was born in Italy or Spain or England, they would be Italians, Spanards or British. Why do we cling to this color division when it is not logical or scientifically accurate? We spend time helping the supremist divide us and decide who we are. I believe that is what you are trying to do, but I think you are going at it the wrong way. ( my opinion). Every day, I see so called white people who are black and they don't even know it. They don't have any idea how many crossed over and lived as "white". What about their offspring? Does that make them any less "Black".
My point about Rich and Steve was in reference to their heart and the content of their character as we know it from this site. I believe them to be honorable men which is something I cannot say about all men and some of them have color.
Man is an animal; he just happens to have a more intelligent brain in some cases. I would rather have a white man who is healthy than a black man who is infected. I would rather have an intelligent white man than an ignorant black man. I would rather have a white man who is honest and has integrity that a low life, dishonest man who is black. My point is there are things more important than the color of a man's skin. Have you ever thought that we have it all wrong down here and the man we thought was white was really black and the black was really white? After all, those are just names attributed to manking by manking who had an agenda. After all Mankind is descendent from one common ancestor.
I admire your faith in YOUR fellow man the hope for the future. Remember this, if they marry us, the offspring will be of color so who will be eleminated? They even admit that a little color goes a long ways.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 6:43PM
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Thomasena....granted we have got in the use to referring to our kind as black and the caucasian as white though we know that basing our kind on purely skin color is inadequate. Sometime, in our attempt to oversimplify we can slide of target if we are careless with the issue of color.
The point of this blog when referring to white guys is caucasian. And when speaking of black, I am referring to African origin. We live by the choices we make no doubt....if a man or woman makes a bunch of bad choices in life, their lifepath will be misearable but if they make a bunch of good choices, their lifepath is altogether differant.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 7:27PM
jamal Abraham
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Ms. LaDonna,
Thank you for your beautiful answer to my question. You have made me aware of just how special this place is, and just how much I love all my brothers and sisters who have given their thoughts here.
And thank you one and all.
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 10:11PM
Steve Williams
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@ Brother Jamal,
You need to visit BWC regarding this same blog. I have some choice words over there for you. ((wink-wink))
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 10:15PM
Jen Fad
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You're welcome Brother Steve,
I hear the sincerity in your words and believe that you really do love. I get the impression that you love all people.
That's what's truly special!
Again, it's the spirit of a person, their soul, that matters most. Not the color of their skin.
God isn't concerned about what's happening on the outside of any of us, only what's happening on the INSIDE!
My people haven't healed, and this is why we FEEL as we do.
It takes wisdom and understanding to comprehend what another's "Being" has gone through.
I sense that you're on the brink of wanting to know the fullness of it so that you could continue to give that love you spoke of.
God wouldn't have it any other way.
Bless you for being you!
Monday, March 28th 2011 at 11:43PM
Min.Dr.LaDonna Blaylock D.D.
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@ Brother Gary,
Of course Black men are 'Candy Lickers' and one man even sang a song about his Candy Licking Habits. I'm not sure what world some of the people here are living in, but its clearly not 2011. Ha!
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:12AM
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Besides 'Candy Licking' must be apart of a Black Man's Resume' in order to even have a chance to compete with White men...
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:13AM
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This blog serves as a warning from Allah (God). No more than that. As a loving leader of his people and concerned about the welfare of the African American women, please consider this blog as a mercy. As a middle aged man with a acne-bump free body and clean HIV/AIDS free body and free of sugar diebetes and free of high blood pressure ad free of kidney disease and free of liver disease, and a practicing engineering scientist, I may know a little something about the good. Of course, my humility thanks almighty God for protecting me and showing me how to eat and live a righteous life which has preserved your leader.
Once I was with my woman at a Chinese restaurant and had just ordered something from the buffet. I noticed that this gorgeous black woman had set down with this very pale and obvious caucasian. It bothered me, so when I went up to fill my plate, I walked back toward my plate buy passed the table where the black woman and white guy was sitting at this booth. They had begun a prayer....I whispered into her ear....."Is that the best you can do ?" and walked back to my table with by black woman. Later, when the sister that I was with...went to get another plate, the black woman with the white guy approached her and told her that "the gentleman that you are with thought that I was dating this guy but only work with him...in other words she began to defend herself to the sister that I was with....This is a true story and not the first time that I have done such a thing. What I speak in this blog is what I believe and live by and it is extremely serious in my heart and by no measure is it a joke or do I take lightly but am willing to listen.
Later, when I was going to my car and Had just opened the door for my date, this white guy that was with this sister approached me in the parking lot. He was moving sort of swift so immediately got into a defense positon. He told me that he was a teacher and was a basically good guy for his company. He did not appreciate....but I cut him off and indicated that maybe he can find a white woman and leave black women to black men and further pointed to my bumper sticker that read "I love ALLAH".
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:41AM
jamal Abraham
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Bro. Gary...sorry for having to delete one of your comments. But, Sis Siebra deserves more respect than that.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:54AM
jamal Abraham
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Irma, why live the word if.....why live to exist. I exist as a man period. As a muslim brother, I do not just read the Quran, I live it. OK, you are a buddhist and I accept that. Now, I am a muslim. So forget your if's. As the annointed one and father of a new world, Allah the One God protects me in all I do. He protects me going and coming. If danger gets too close it is like an aurora about me. OK you are an old woman...and I accept that. You say you are always trying to understand but you are always arguing. I notice that you and robert like to argue and bark. Why not grow old and be nice and more understanding. Has life been that bad for you. For me, life has been very good.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 1:35AM
jamal Abraham
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And again, this is only one of many times. I cannot count the times in my life I have let a black youth or black woman know my feel if I say her with a caucasion. There is no crime in speaking. Unless a person is a savage. But, how can God raise a father of a new nation if he has a whole lot of fears. If I see any black woman with a white guy. I do not care where or how or when or what, I it bothers me enough, I will let the black woman know my mind. And that is little abraham, the Father of a new world. Allah protects from the would be murderers by making them go crazy or worse..He said go blind. There is not God but Allah and make no bones about it that there is a reason I look as I do with no broken bones....ever. Why because the great God Allah is the only God in this creation of ours.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 1:51AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
I do not think that you understood what I meant that it is your belief in God that motivated you to post this blog.
For instance, your belief in Islam as was taught by Elijah Muhammad is what has motivated you to post this blog. It is your innate love and intelligence for your people, Black Americans that most BIA members don't show that cause you to feel a sense of hurt when you see a White man with a Black woman. All people that are civilize and intelligent has these feelings within them, especially White America.
Therefore, you are a step up and above those that think they have an individual right to be with whom ever they like. That means that they have chosen individual rights over collective rights. Any intelligent person knows that a race is to progress in life as one single organism and not as individuals.
Naturally, if God would allow this sort of ignorant reasoning to take precedence it would destroy us as a race since we will be phased out and absorbed by other races. Only a dumb and uncivilized people such as us would think this way and this is why it is necessary that we have a prophet to put us on the right track to preserve our race as we move towards our sovereignty on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.
So, as the star on the top of the Christmas tree is the head of the tree so the same is your belief in God. You religion and how you view God is the star of who you are and what moves you from point A to point B in life.
Furthermore, only God can bring us up out of this mess. Therefore, your belief in God must be straight. At this point your belief in God is not straight because it goes through the Arabian people. God gave Islam to the Arabian people and God gave LIFE to Black Americans. That should not be difficult for you to understand.
Likewise, the children of Israel circumstances are very similar to ours. We know that the children of Israel circumstances were divine because it took God to bring them out of bondage and slavery in Egypt and so it is with us as well in White America. So, since only an act of God could secure us then how we seek God help and view God which is religion must be straight. That can only be done through our genuine prophet as it was with Moses that the children of Israel were guide. Our success does not hinge on Islam or Christianity. Instead, our success hinges on our religion LIFE.
When we throw away religion then we fall back to our own devices. For the past 500 years no device that Black Americans has come up with has done any good for us. For example, Elijah's device that Black Americans be Muslims and embrace the religion of Islam has not worked since we are still a subjugated people, am I right. Dr. King's device of civil rights and affirmative action have not worked either, am I right. Only God can permanently remedy our situation as it was with Moses and the children of Israel.
I am Black America's first genuine prophet. All that I say is going to happen. Black Americans are going to inherit a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.
In conclusion Jamal religion is not opinionated since it comes to a people from a genuine prophet anointed by God. The religion of Islam that prophet Mohammed brought to the Arabian people is not opinionated. It is rock solid. The religion that Abraham brought to the Hebrew people was not opinionated either, it was rock solid. Our religion LIFE is not opinionated. It is rock solid since I am Black America's first genuine prophet. Do you get my drift? It is our religion LIFE that will unite us as Islam united the Arabian people.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 2:28AM
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Hello Ms. Thomasina,
I do not understand why it is that you all can not read between the lines that when we say American Black people or American White people it is not color; but, instead we are referring to a species or a race. Why that is so difficult for you all to understand since you all keep throwing this color nonsense in the dialogue? You all need to get over this color nonsense!
Why you all are stuck on color? What is the difference if I said American Chinese people? Are you all confuse that you don't see a color for Chinese and that is because Chinese people are a species or a race among the other races in humanity even though Chinese people are more yellow in color then Blacks or Whites are.
You all get me so frustrated with just stupid nonsense about color. Again, it is not color that is the issue. The issue is the species or race of the people and for conveniences we say Black or White. Damn Negroes let's use some sense here, okay and get of this color nonsense.
You know better and can rationalize better than that Ms. Thomasina.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 2:50AM
Harry Watley
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Jamal,
I can only say that if you were to say such a thing to my second wife that I would hope you like being the center of attention. But then again you might mistake my second wife as non-black, since she is half-white.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 9:33AM
Steve Williams
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Jamal,
I do thank you for a great blog. I could almost say I've had an epiphany.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 9:42AM
Steve Williams
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If a man came up to me trying to tell me what to do, I'd respectfully ask him if he was the one who put the ring I'm wearing on my ring finger on my left hand? The man who put that ring on my ring finger is the only man that has any right to tell me what to do. Simple. My Religion teaches that the Man (husband) is the Head of the Woman (wife). Read it because it is in "The Book" and that my friends is the Prophetic Word given to Jen 'Juicy Fruit' Fad. Hello.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 11:07AM
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...Ya'll men folk can say whatever you want to say, but ask yourselves will I listen? That is the real question.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 11:09AM
Jen Fad
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Eve in the Bible was compassionate with SATAN. The devil communicated EVE and got EVE to misbehave. It is not difficult to understand why.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:01PM
jamal Abraham
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Things that bother us, we should not necessarily act on.
Only a mature mind knows and understands that.
A person should be mindful of what they say and the words that they use, it would be foolish not to consider this beforehand.
My family are Muslims, Allah teaches peace, I'm disappointed that you missed this Brother!
Your words have power, and can manifest.
Live by the sword, you can die by it as well.
Your leaders teach this as well; Refining our words through careful consideration, promotes unity.
You were "OUT of ORDER approaching the Sister. HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!
A Sister? Wow!!!!! that was KING like!
You couldn't do better than that! Where was the honor in it?
It would've been better to had approached the male!
Wow, what a low blow!
Start approaching Brothers with White Women, find the biggest burliest Black Man you can find, and ask him what you asked that Black Sister you approached.
Get back to us and tell us how that works out for you!
I rest my case!
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:39PM
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Bro. Jamal, I sure as hell know how to handle them...I have alway been attracted to Black men...I once dated a Black guy whose father was half-Cuban, but whose family considered themselves Black...we parted ways for reasons not related to anything shared in this blog...but I’ve never trusted White men to the point where I saw myself dating, mixing, or marrying one in the future. I guess Black women who date White men (and vice versa) have forgotten that we, as a people, have been targeted and taught to hate ourselves for generations to prevent the threat of us ever coming together and being (again) the force that we don't realize we are anymore...
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:42PM
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What I act on is warped behavior and in my views a black woman with a white caucasian is warped behavior and acts on it most of the time. By definition system is based on degree of knowledge and understanding and will put it up against any in the land. And it works...I find black women when confronted with absurdity will find them selves explaining. If the black man says nothing of these absurdities...it might be misconstrued that wrong is right. Fortunately men of science are a knack for reason and those of other disciplines have a problem with right and wrong. But, nevertheless...the proof is in the puddin.....African American woman that resort to intermingling with the caucasian male is committing a atrocity and need to be confronted first with dialogue and secondly with physical judgement.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:45PM
jamal Abraham
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Goddess Irma is not old!
She's seasoned!
You should be fortunate to live as long as she!
That too was very disrespectful towards her.
Where are your manners?
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:49PM
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What I act on is warped behavior and in my views a black woman with a white caucasian is warped behavior and acts on it most of the time. My definition system is based on degree of knowledge and understanding and will put it up against any in the land. And it works...I find black women when confronted with absurdity will find them selves explaining and checking themselves. If the black man says nothing of these absurdities...it might be misconstrued that wrong is right. Fortunately men of science have a knack for reason and those of other disciplines have a problem with right and wrong. But, nevertheless...the proof is in the puddin.....African American woman that resort to intermingling with the caucasian male is committing an atrocity and need to be confronted first with dialogue and secondly with physical judgement.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:51PM
jamal Abraham
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Not really kind to anyhuman being that mentions the word "murder"....if they mention that word.....must be careful because almighty God has something to say about that.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:52PM
jamal Abraham
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Sis. Siebra....you have been been blessed with virtue.... a quality characteristic of a queen.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 12:57PM
jamal Abraham
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You're more than welcomed Sister Min.Dr.LaDonna Blaylock D.D. as I most certainly apreciate your candor and comprehension.
Peace and Love,
Greg.
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Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 1:49PM
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@Jen.....when you were under 18...did you listen to your father. Not trying to get into your personal business only wondering do you have a problem with ANY man telling you ANYTHING.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 2:14PM
jamal Abraham
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And since you say you are a N D Buddhist.....never will I denote "if you are a ND Buddhist". You already stated you were...so no need for the IF.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 2:59PM
jamal Abraham
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Bro Jamal,
I understand where you are coming from. Believe me I do. But I separate those Caucasians who promote white supremacy and those who do not. I also question those who benefit from "white Privilage" and do nothing about the wrongs because they looked the other way. Just like we cannot put all Men of color in the same catagory, the same applies to them. Don't get me wrong, I am not promoting interrcial marriages even though my brothers married white women. It seems that men of color have a double standard. They are quick to say that they didn't notice the color and get bent out of shape when a sister says the same thing. Personally, it is none of my business who you sleep with. If I can't tell you who to sleep with, you cannot tell me who to sleep. I m all about fair. That is my biggest problem with some supremist, that and lying. I am a libra, the scales are tres inportante to me.I
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 3:34PM
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@Thomasena.....creation is ours to study not to change. We did not create ourselves so to think the creator will allow humans to change creation full of colors to a common dull gray color will never happen. I love color and to see color. Be it color in plants, animals, rocks or people.....various color to me is good and beautiful. Thank God for color. It is borderline to insane that African American women think they will be allowed to intermix with the same caucasian race that has put their foot on African American's neck for the past 500 years and we say nothing. Again, the creator has already programmed man to say SOMETHING. Of course, you mention a very point that brothers that expect sisters to preference their own kind should likewise. That makes sense to me. This blog is about sisters doing what is best for themselves....not to please me......rather to put themselves on the right side of the Lord. I too am a Libra and can appreciate the balance point.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 5:03PM
jamal Abraham
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@Gary....I hear what you are saying
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 5:05PM
jamal Abraham
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I thing my sister Irma is just exactly the right age. Don't me mad Jamal.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 8:46PM
Steve Williams
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Bro. Jamal
I have come a longways to get to the points I made concerning the recognation that they are NOT all the same. I came from the mollitof cocktail era, so I am a work in progress. Believe me, I have come a long ways.I am looking forward to your take on the Black man and the non black woman. I don't think we can do too much about either situation since there are so many who do not know their history or who they are. I don't think the black man who chooses a white woman can handle me. There are people for everybody regardless of color.
Tuesday, March 29th 2011 at 11:25PM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson
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Say, Steve....I'm not mad...I think this blog has captured a number of people's views on a very important topic and at the same time more about little Abraham has been foretold.
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 12:31AM
jamal Abraham
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Once me and my son was coming out of a movie theatre in Ann Arbor, Michigan. We were still inside around all the concessions and I spotted a pretty sister with this white guy just up ahead. I must admit that it was unsettling to me. So I had to my son, "hold on" and then I approached the side of this sister and said to her..."what , there are no black brothers in all of Ann Arbor that you could find".. The sister looked at me...and was obviously stunned. The caucasian guy she was with didn't know what to say, either. Then the pretty sister said to me...I am not dating "him" we are just out at the movies...I DO date a brother.....And the white guy said...hey, you don't know me. I smiled at her and me and my son walked away.
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 7:02AM
jamal Abraham
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again the MUSLIM will and has married europeans, africans, asians, natives, indonesians---ANY of the Family of Adaam(as)---that is what AlQur'aan and ALLAAH teaches the Believer
your little mind can DELETE me all you want, but Intelligence from Thomasina and Steve should HELP your limited understandings.
Thomasina reiterates the point, why do you a claimed muslim use the bibble for your thought?
first you only have 1492-1864 kingJames version and secondly NO MUSLIM in the 2 BILLION uses bibble for any explanation, as it is not translated --- NO JEW uses bibble for the same reason but you, siebra, farakhanMadoof, gary etc. use it---again delete the reality that you are a paganChristian thinker---NOT an ISLAAMIC thinker.
jamal, slaves were NOT introduced to the bibble-----Historical---no slave was allowed to READ.
so your argument is like all of your thought UNTRUE
the 1865 freeSlave chose paganChristianity as given them by 1492-1864 paganChristian BONDAGE, Pedophilia, torture, murder, etc..............
stop blaming europeans for the condition of the freeSlave..............that is unture------ or just take that crazy harryProphet of paganChristianity as your saviour over your colorWorship.........
the slave 1865 was the worst
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 9:34AM
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Poor robert.....Truth is independant and can be found in all Holy Scripture. Sure, the Holy Quran is 100% truth but other holy scripture has truth in it as well. The Bible has truth in it. The Torah has truth in it. Point when a person has an affinity for the truth, they can find truth in even Mother Goose Nursery Rhymes. It is so much a shame that religious fanatics think that only ONE book has a patent on truth.
This is why you would do well to debate with a monkey or mule. It would be more of an even match for you. Muslims by definition are righteous persons that give their life and death all for the will of Allah....they do not have to be Sunnah or Shia...these names came much later.
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 10:48AM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal,
Is it safe to assume by what you have said in your blog, that you have never dated anyone other thaat a "Black" girl?
What are you mixed with? another question, how do you know that anything in any of the books are true?
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 11:01AM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson
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Here is another quesstion? Why is Robert's opinion concerning anything on this site suspect. It appears that the one drop theory is alive and well, that being the case, wouldn't Robert be a man of color and does he not have a right to disagree even if he has no supporters? Others can but it seems to me that to disagree is to elisit harsh criticism.
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 11:07AM
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Hi, Thomasena......In the circle of professional engineers, we use science to "explain" phenomena math to "prove" it. For example we can explain the force that pushes down on objects on earth using the science of gravity. We can prove it using the mathematical gravity rate of 9.8 m/s (squared). Then we know we have the truth. Otherwise, engineers refer matters as a theory if it cannot be proven using math.
On that basis....we read or hear something from persons or books. Again, scientists must compare what we hear or read to what is found in nature and see whether nature agrees with what we are hearing or reading. Why, because the universe is an open book and when properly understood stands to confirm or deny theory. There are an array of natural laws that can be used to test and verify results. Robert has this thinking that the muslim movement in America begun in 1929 is void and should be replaced with a Sunnah denomination. It turns out that almighty God sends prophets to nations(America) HE CHOOSES which then represents an UPDATE to previous denominations.
As far as who I have dated; they have all been women of color. That puts them as part of the Black Family, consisting of black, brown, red and yellow.
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 11:34AM
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What most deep and comprehensive variety of opinions expressed! Here's two cents more of what I think...
You'll find that Black families seriously consider maintaining keeping their race separated for purpose of keeping the purest blood line of being as "pure black" as possible. These don't usually want to mix blood lines as to have inter-racial children. Thusly they teach their children, sons and daughters to stay to your own color or race. Initially, I wouldn't say that it is wrong to teach that. However, sometime it just doesn't always fall that way in reality as parents and guardians would like it to. There is already so much cultural background in Black people and mix-raced Blacks may not already be pure Black as they may think. Which may have resulted in some of shades...light skinned to browns and the deeper tones of Black skin. Although the heart and love has little caring about a race, tone or color and love is color blind you'll find that crossing the color barrier of love has no sight. Love is blind to color and race.
For as teaching again younger Black persons to stick to your race [to daughters and or sons] it can also cause a counter-reaction to explore what can be called "taboo" mixing of people. Some want to do just the opposite. I believe there has always been race-mixing and that's because we are all humans. The mainline of staying to race could also be a slave mentality taught by our ancestors years ago. Even then white men raped many of our women and child bearing then was considered unacceptable it's hasn't changed with the way many Black families think. The "old ways" a deep impacted.
There are so many ways to view, think and analyze this situation of staying with your race. Of course, there's always a person own choice. However....LOVE IS ALWAYS SO JUST and colors or race usually have no bearing.
That's more than 2 cents...but I think I charge the rest to my heart.
Love,
MIISRAEL
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 2:48PM
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Jamal,
Could you please use science to "explain" phenomena and math to "prove" it, with regards to your uneasiness about the pretty sister at the movie theater mentioned above? Especially the math part.
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 5:34PM
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Just to be be clear, I am speaking of the phenomenon of your uneasiness.
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 5:42PM
Steve Williams
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@Missrael......nice to have you weigh in on this matter. You said, "However, sometime it just doesn't always fall that way in reality as parents and guardians would like it to". This is so true for perhaps most African American families. Even with the strictness and views of my family, one of my nephews surprised us all and married a caucasian woman. We all had to adjust, starting with his mother and deal with the grandchildren, etc.
The way they handled it was by not hiding it...that is having open debates on the matter. Even the caucasian woman shares her views on the subject of interracial dating and marriage. When one is not in charge of the government or land in which they live, they must deal with the legal occurances in the land no matter how they disagree with people's discriminations. That is why we as a race of people need our own land and government then can legislate our own laws.
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 6:11PM
jamal Abraham
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Steve, I appreciate your attention in reading.......the uneasiness was a more cordial way of expressing something that was terribly "wrong". "After all, when with one's children, a parent will be more cautious. Right and Wrong are legitamate mathematical conditions.
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 6:15PM
jamal Abraham
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AlIslaam and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) littleUnderstanding has always been in America---AlIslaam and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) is Monotheism----your mother goose and bibble knowledge or 'truth' as you say started in 1929--as a reaction to colorWorship.............All Men/Women are the SAME---some can be evil and some ARE believers.
1492-1864 slaverAmericana colorWorship IS not Monotheism, just as your, blackieWhitie nonesense.......
just as Thomasina and Steve try to enlighten you, AlIslaam and Science are tried - tested - and USED in the Modern World
I know Muslims and I know Scientists and YOU littleMotherGooser---are neither...........
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 7:46PM
powell robert
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>>>poor robert....now you are a comedian...that's funny
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 8:44PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal.
Let's say rather that Right and Wrong are indisputable mathematical conclusions. Now not you nor I nor any human on this earth can explain the mathematics of psychology, but the God of Heaven can. Our capability is to discern what we do and do not know. and to accept that we do not know all, but the God of Heaven does. There is a clue though, and that is in your words pretty sister, so perhaps you are a Jealous Guy?
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 9:48PM
Steve Williams
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Nice try, Steve....but you are trying to mix and "exact" science like mathematics with a non-exact science. Doesn't work. Jealous may not be the right words here....bias would be better.
Wednesday, March 30th 2011 at 11:40PM
jamal Abraham
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Sorry Jamal, when you said we use math to prove phenomena, I thought you meant any phenomenon (potentially).
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 8:08AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Jamal,
Before you can lead Black Americans anywhere you must be a Black American. Likewise, before Moses could lead the children of Israel out of bondage and slavery Moses must be a child of Israel. Is that mathematically rational?
I said this because you are a wannabe Arabian man since you follow the customs and ways of the Arabian people. Right now mathematically speaking you all confused about Prophet Mohammed and Elijah Muhammad is correct for you.
Another one of your shortcomings is that you refer to yourself as, Little-Abraham in comparison to Big-Abraham of the Jewish people. Just to say you a little is an indication of a slave type mind. Black Americans do not want anything little. Am I mathematically correct?
One more thing that you have done is to say that religion is not important, yet you say that God is guiding you. Religion is how a people understand and few God from the mouth of the prophet that God has anointed for his people. Now, since you are saying that religion is not important then you are saying that God is not guiding you. Is that mathematically rational?
Jamal when God visits a people as when God visited the children of Israel and the Arabian people the first thing that God did was to rise up a genuine prophet from among the children of Israel and the Arabian people. You cannot fit that description since you want to leave religion and God out of you so-called father of a new nation.
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 9:15AM
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harryLittle said,
"Before you can lead Black Americans anywhere you must be a Black American"
but harry he is neither an arab or a black
---he and YOU are the same paganChristian falseDefiners of the Family of Adaam(as)--the Father of Monotheism
---you brothers in Divinity are Quadtheistic and CincoTheistic
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 9:32AM
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@steve.....my reference is for natural phenomena.....but, a black woman with a white man is an un-natural phenomena....It is like finding in nature a male fox and a female rabbit walking side by side in the jungle. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 10:12AM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal, s*x between any two or more homo sapiens is entirely natural. Surely you can discern a natural phenomenon versus a psychological one, such as your disapproval of the acts of non-Abrahams.
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 12:12PM
Steve Williams
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Once I went to the circus and saw a grown elephant balancing himself on two legs and a ball spinning from his trunk. It took a lot of training for the elephant to do such a thing. We are talking about years. In nature, you will never observe such an un-natural event. But with training which includes shock treatment, beating, food-reward, etc...you can get an animal to almost do anything physically possible. It took 400 years of the caucasian race "raping" the black women, beating them, hanging them and starving them to now after 500 years to see them occasionally walking side by side with the same people that violated them like no other in the history of humanity. And the nerve of caucasions to think that someone is going to forget. Only uncle Toms and the like will say lets forget about our dark past. NOT I SAID THE CAT. This episode of human atrocity is now recorded in history books around the world.
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 12:29PM
jamal Abraham
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non-Abrahams is EVERYBODY,
irma---littlesArgument and Allaah should not be in the same sentence...........
.AGAIN ALLAAH says in AlQur'aan that ALL Muslim MEN can, will and do Marry- muslimWomen, jewishWomen, christianWomen, animistWomen, paganChristian women, hinduWomen and even 30 something singleWomen............
littleBlack dont want White----you delete and call me all kinds of stupidity but--- DO YOU BELIEVE WHAT ALLAAH says in ALQur'aan about marriage?
would a Muslim women be a slave to a paganChristian?
would a Muslim women allow rape?
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 12:34PM
powell robert
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Would you say Jamal, that to make no distinction between the living and the dead is unnatural, and only the result of many years of training?
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 12:47PM
Steve Williams
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Irma....why not speak of that Buddha god since you are a ND Buddhist.
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 12:51PM
jamal Abraham
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Some slave masters brutally simply raped young African American girls using what ever violence was required. The assaults were obviously most commonly visited on teenage girls and young women. Then there was a range of approaches, including threats to the girl or women, to her family, or threats about punishments, added work, sale, or promises of freedom.
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 1:02PM
jamal Abraham
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NOW today, 500 years later, African Women are "scared" to stand up and speak up against their one-time rapists. That is the purpose of the blog. Though many uncle toms have been commenting, their are many sisters that know what I am speaking about but somewhat timid to speak out.
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 1:15PM
jamal Abraham
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@Saint
During slavery African American fathers, husbands and brothers had to stand-by, shut up and watch and listen while the caucasian abused and violated their female love-ones. Now 500 years later and the black male is free to stand up and protect and defend.....many of our sisters want us brothers to back off and continue to shut up so the caucasian can still have free rein over them. DON'T THINK SO.
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 2:26PM
jamal Abraham
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Irma...your input to this blog is much appreciated.....Peace to you.
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 5:21PM
jamal Abraham
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@Harry......what are you trying to create and issue that does not exist. That is a trick which is the very thing that we need to get away from. YOU SAID "Before you can lead Black Americans anywhere you must be a Black American." That is exactly what I AM. Therefore, your entire premise is false. Me and my family were born in America and we are descendants of American slaves....making me a Black American or a African America or a African Origin or however you want to describe. Also, I am direct descendant to Ishmael, Abraham's oldest son. If I came out and put my truth out there of me being Father Abraham.....so-called American Negroes are not able to stand that.....since we use to calling each other a bunch of n-gr-s. There first, our people need some re-education.
Thursday, March 31st 2011 at 11:44PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal,
I respect your willingness to ddefent/protect your sisters as any man of worth should. Just be sure they are in need of defending/protecting and are not a willing participant. Remember the story of separating the wheat from the shaft?
Friday, April 1st 2011 at 12:53AM
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By the number of hits this topic has, you can imagine how hot this topic is. How sad.
Friday, April 1st 2011 at 12:55AM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson
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@Saint....right on to you too, my brother. Of course, I will not be asking what tribe the sister is from if I see her with a caucasion. It will not matter to me. What remains, is what the hell is going on. What the devil like to do is declaw nature and turn it into something else. They would like to declaw the black man, here in America. Either educated and a punk or education and a uncle tom. Take your pick. As for me and because my articulation was math and science thank God............was able to "reason" it out that the black man by nature can rise up again, but he must take charge of his women.
Sure, they have been made afraid, who would'nt when they were raped the way they were. It is understandable that African American women at large would want to take a hands off.....leave me alone......approach. I can do what I want......as a way to lash out at the world for allowing this to be done to them. But, sooner or later....we must move on with the way nature had intended it to be. Sure, we must learn from what has happened....but it is time for African Women to move on with the right way to live which is having an unbreakable bond with their man.....the original black man.
Friday, April 1st 2011 at 2:00AM
jamal Abraham
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In the words of some famous White Guys (please allow me to introduce myself...), "you can't always get what you want, but sometimes, you just might get what you need".
Friday, April 1st 2011 at 8:37AM
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What's up with the site putting our comments out of order? The one I just put here is back a ways.
Friday, April 1st 2011 at 8:40AM
Steve Williams
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It is a hot topic tomasina because paganChristianity runs in the minds of the former africanSlaverAmericana.
paganChristianity is the majority religion in MOST of america---jamal and the farakhanMadoofs represent the anger of evil, and the need for foolish revenge against IGNORANCE..............
He answers no questions as to his TRUE nature, but jamal is just like any other Racialist, colorWorshipper---EVEN as he spouts Science and AlQur'aan...... he does not believe in Science or AlQur'aan but only paganChristian colorWorship and the Division of The Family of Adaam(as)
he calls others uncleTom, yet his writings are uncleTomish---he calls me stupid, yet he is the deleter and OLD thinker 1492-1864---
what a bore!
Friday, April 1st 2011 at 11:04AM
powell robert
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Gary, it seems these claims and counterclaims of human bestiality are a universal timeless trait of species homo sapiens.
Friday, April 1st 2011 at 3:21PM
Steve Williams
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Hello Saint,
You said that Black Americans don't know how to break the Bible down right because they need to learn Phoenician Hebrew, History, Entomology, Geography, and origins of nations.
Saint, what Black Americans need most is a prophet of our own. What the children of Israel needed most when they were in bondage and slavery in Egypt was a prophet, and God sent them Moses, am I right. What the Arabian people needed most in their state of idolatry and paganism was a prophet, and God sent them Mustafa Mohammed, am I right.
God precedence is to rise up a prophet from among his people at a time when the prophet's people must have God help. Do you find history collaborating what I'm saying to be true? I gave you to perfect examples, Moses and Mohammed. Therefore, black Americans do not need to know how to break down the Bible or the Quran. Do you feel me? We need to pay attention to our prophet as the children of Israel and the Arabian people pay attention to their prophet.
The fact that Black Americans has a prophet it indicates that we will have our own scriptures as well. So, I am giving you yet another reason why Black Americans do not need to know how to break down the Bible right.
A change is coming and everything that I have been saying is going to happen.
What say you?
Friday, April 1st 2011 at 5:11PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Gary,
You said that the Caucasian gave us pictures of God, Jesus, the Angels, the prophets, saints etc as ALL WHITE which is scripturally, anthropologically, genetically and historically incorrect yet we still believe the lies and deceit.
Gary, the Caucasians did not lie to us about their scriptures and their prophets being Caucasian. You need to understand that all prophets matched the race of the people God is helping because God all ways rose up a prophet from among his people. That is why the pictures of the Caucasian prophets are Caucasians. That should not be difficult for you to comprehend.
Consequentially, Gary our prophet must be one of us as well. The reason you have trouble understanding something as simple as this is because you have been brainwashed by the Arabian people's religion of Islam. The prophet of Islam you accept and the Caucasian prophets you don't shows that you are blind, deaf and dumb. Neither the Arabian prophet nor the Caucasian prophets are your prophets since you are neither Arabian nor Caucasian.
I am Black America's first genuine prophet that would lead us on to a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to worship God, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. No one claims me as the Arabian people claim Elijah and Mr. Farrakhan. God claims me.
Am I making any sense with you?
Friday, April 1st 2011 at 5:33PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
Again, your argument about Black American women is divinely sound. It is on the menu to be divinely handled. However, it is not the priority as we dialogue. The priority is our focus on becoming a sovereign people on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to worship God, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. This is the first time that we are going to become a legitimate nation and not a nation within a nation as was the Muslim cry 35 years ago.
So, what you are saying will not happen unless we a sovereign. Therefore, you need to show God your appreciation for three things. Firstly, that our time has come and God has visited us. Secondly, you need to praise God for rising up a prophet from among us. Thirdly, that within the prophet's lifetime we will become a sovereign people since all of this is God decision.
Now, you of all people do not fit the description of a genuine prophet and this is why. Prophets brings his people their religion and I have brought Black America's religion LIFE to us as Prophet Mohammed brought Islam to the Arabian people.
You could not be anything divine to Black Americans since you have no religion to give us except the religion of the Arabian people. Since we are not Arabian people Islam could never work for us. We must have our own, am I right. Likewise, we must have our own prophet and not the Arabian people's prophet.
One of the reasons prophets are anointed is because they are the cleanest vessel of all their people. Mohammed was the cleanest vessel of all the Arabian people. Moses was the cleanest vessel of all the children of Israel. I am the cleanest vessel of all 41 million Black Americans scattered throughout this country.
What I mean by being the cleanest vessel is that Moses, Mohammed and I did not buy into the religion of other people. In other words, Moses did not buy into the gods of Pharaoh. Mustafa Mohammed did not buy into idolatry and paganism. I neither bought into Christianity and Islam. I never bought into Mr. Fard Muhammad to be God in person.
Consequentially, Siebra, Gary, Mr. Farrakhan and all so-called Black American Muslims will have to be converted from where you are now all your religion and prophet. But, I do not have to be converted because I am already anointed and God has already given me our religion LIFE.
Am I making any sense with you? If you check out how God has done things before my anointing you will find that everything I am saying is true about me. I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world. Join me and help me to raise the rest of our people.
Tell me what you think.
Friday, April 1st 2011 at 6:11PM
Harry Watley
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My mind was just now made easy, when a couple came to look at my house, a dark-skinned woman, heavy with child, and a medium-light-skinned man holding a small child of a color betwixt the two. I did not dare to whisper in their ears though, but chose to keep the sign to myself.
Saturday, April 2nd 2011 at 2:40PM
Steve Williams
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@Harry,.....Sorry for your illusion of prophethood....but Messenger Elijah Muhammad filled that role...your too late.
Sunday, April 3rd 2011 at 1:41AM
jamal Abraham
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jamal and gary NEVER answer any questions based on ALIslaam and AlQur'aan!
NO KNOWLEDGE--other than kingJames paganismKnowledge
AGAIN --- ALLAAH says in AlQur'aan that ALL Muslim MEN can, will and do Marry- muslimWomen, jewishWomen, christianWomen, animistWomen, paganChristian women, hinduWomen and even 30 something singleWomen............
would a Muslim women be a slave to a paganChristian?
would a Muslim women allow rape?
would a Muslim Man allow a man to rape His daughter or child?
siebraLittleGary, LEARN something in english, spanish, chinese or Arabic about AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as)
Sunday, April 3rd 2011 at 8:55AM
powell robert
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Hello Jamal,
Jamal, Mr. Elijah Muhammad could not have been our anointed prophet to lead us out of bondage and subjugation in White America for several different reasons; but, I will give you one, okay.
It is out of order of reasoning to believe that God/Allah would rise up a Black American man and plant in his head Prophet Mohammed of the Arabian people and the religion of Islam that Prophet Mohammed brought to his Arabian people for their salvation of paganism as Black America's salvation to our bondage and subjugation in White America is absolutely ludicrous.
There is no history that God ever rose up a prophet of one people and planted in his head the ways, customs and religion of another people to follow, am I right. Show me if ever God rose up a prophet of one race and inspired him to teach his people the ways and customs of another prophet and we all know prophets are racially different.
Our prophet will have our religion and our permanent solution as well from the same God/Allah that rose up Prophet Mohammed. Since God did it for the Arabian people and the children of Israel then why is it so difficult for you to accept that God can do the same for Black Americans?
The reason I am the cleanest vessel that God anointed is because I never felt proud of having something that belong to another people. Islam belongs to the Arabian people and that is a settled fact, am I right. I was a person that always cherished having my own. I could never bring myself to believe that this Black and White, Mr. Fard Muhammad was God. I was never able to digest that an ordinary man could be God as well.
Likewise, Moses was never able to absorb the religion, customs and ways of Pharaoh. Mohammed was not able to digest the pagan ways, beliefs and customs of his Arabian people. For these reasons Moses was the cleanest vessel of all the children of Israel. Mohammed was the cleanest vessel of all the Arabian people. I am the cleanest vessel of all 41 million Black Americans. Am I making any sense with you?
Mr. Fard Muhammad was a follower of prophet Mohammed since Mr. Fard Muhammad's religion was Islam and he was a Muslim. None of these things could Elijah biologically be; therefore, Mr. Fard Muhammad misled Elijah and of course Elijah with his fifth-grade education had not the spiritual savvy to know better. In other words, Mr. Elijah Muhammad was blind, deaf and dumb all of this life. Had I been anointed before his death he would have at the least died with clear vision and hearing as well as spiritual intelligence because he would have come to know me, Prophet Harry.
Mr. Farrakhan and all of you Muslims are going to come to follow me. Elijah has passed and we are still subjugated; so, how can you intelligently conclude that Elijah was our prophet in light of all I have said to you thus far?
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, April 3rd 2011 at 4:29PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
Jamal, Mr. Elijah Muhammad could not have been our anointed prophet to lead us out of bondage and subjugation in White America for several different reasons; but, I will give you one, okay.
It is out of order of reasoning to believe that God/Allah would rise up a Black American man and plant in his head Prophet Mohammed of the Arabian people and the religion of Islam that Prophet Mohammed brought to his Arabian people for their salvation of paganism as Black America's salvation to our bondage and subjugation in White America is absolutely ludicrous.
There is no history that God ever rose up a prophet of one people and planted in his head the ways, customs and religion of another people to follow, am I right. Show me if ever God rose up a prophet of one race and inspired him to teach his people the ways and customs of another prophet and we all know prophets are racially different.
Our prophet will have our religion and our permanent solution as well from the same God/Allah that rose up Prophet Mohammed. Since God did it for the Arabian people and the children of Israel then why is it so difficult for you to accept that God can do the same for Black Americans?
The reason I am the cleanest vessel that God anointed is because I never felt proud of having something that belong to another people. Islam belongs to the Arabian people and that is a settled fact, am I right. I was a person that always cherished having my own. I could never bring myself to believe that this Black and White, Mr. Fard Muhammad was God. I was never able to digest that an ordinary man could be God as well.
Likewise, Moses was never able to absorb the religion, customs and ways of Pharaoh. Mohammed was not able to digest the pagan ways, beliefs and customs of his Arabian people. For these reasons Moses was the cleanest vessel of all the children of Israel. Mohammed was the cleanest vessel of all the Arabian people. I am the cleanest vessel of all 41 million Black Americans. Am I making any sense with you?
Mr. Fard Muhammad was a follower of prophet Mohammed since Mr. Fard Muhammad's religion was Islam and he was a Muslim. None of these things could Elijah biologically be; therefore, Mr. Fard Muhammad misled Elijah and of course Elijah with his fifth-grade education had not the spiritual savvy to know better. In other words, Mr. Elijah Muhammad was blind, deaf and dumb all of this life. Had I been anointed before his death he would have at the least died with clear vision and hearing as well as spiritual intelligence because he would have come to know me, Prophet Harry.
Mr. Farrakhan and all of you Muslims are going to come to follow me. Elijah has passed and we are still subjugated; so, how can you intelligently conclude that Elijah was our prophet in light of all I have said to you thus far?
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, April 3rd 2011 at 4:33PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
Jamal, Mr. Elijah Muhammad could not have been our anointed prophet to lead us out of bondage and subjugation in White America for several different reasons; but, I will give you one, okay.
It is out of order of reasoning to believe that God/Allah would rise up a Black American man and plant in his head Prophet Mohammed of the Arabian people and the religion of Islam that Prophet Mohammed brought to his Arabian people for their salvation of paganism as Black America's salvation to our bondage and subjugation in White America is absolutely ludicrous.
There is no history that God ever rose up a prophet of one people and planted in his head the ways, customs and religion of another people to follow, am I right. Show me if ever God rose up a prophet of one race and inspired him to teach his people the ways and customs of another prophet and we all know prophets are racially different.
Our prophet will have our religion and our permanent solution as well from the same God/Allah that rose up Prophet Mohammed. Since God did it for the Arabian people and the children of Israel then why is it so difficult for you to accept that God can do the same for Black Americans?
The reason I am the cleanest vessel that God anointed is because I never felt proud of having something that belong to another people. Islam belongs to the Arabian people and that is a settled fact, am I right. I was a person that always cherished having my own. I could never bring myself to believe that this Black and White, Mr. Fard Muhammad was God. I was never able to digest that an ordinary man could be God as well.
Likewise, Moses was never able to absorb the religion, customs and ways of Pharaoh. Mohammed was not able to digest the pagan ways, beliefs and customs of his Arabian people. For these reasons Moses was the cleanest vessel of all the children of Israel. Mohammed was the cleanest vessel of all the Arabian people. I am the cleanest vessel of all 41 million Black Americans. Am I making any sense with you?
Mr. Fard Muhammad was a follower of prophet Mohammed since Mr. Fard Muhammad's religion was Islam and he was a Muslim. None of these things could Elijah biologically be; therefore, Mr. Fard Muhammad misled Elijah and of course Elijah with his fifth-grade education had not the spiritual savvy to know better. In other words, Mr. Elijah Muhammad was blind, deaf and dumb all of this life. Had I been anointed before his death he would have at the least died with clear vision and hearing as well as spiritual intelligence because he would have come to know me, Prophet Harry.
Mr. Farrakhan and all of you Muslims are going to come to follow me. Elijah has passed and we are still subjugated; so, how can you intelligently conclude that Elijah was our prophet in light of all I have said to you thus far?
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, April 3rd 2011 at 4:35PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
Jamal, Mr. Elijah Muhammad could not have been our anointed prophet to lead us out of bondage and subjugation in White America for several different reasons; but, I will give you one, okay.
It is out of order of reasoning to believe that God/Allah would rise up a Black American man and plant in his head Prophet Mohammed of the Arabian people and the religion of Islam that Prophet Mohammed brought to his Arabian people for their salvation of paganism as Black America's salvation to our bondage and subjugation in White America is absolutely ludicrous.
There is no history that God ever rose up a prophet of one people and planted in his head the ways, customs and religion of another people to follow, am I right. Show me if ever God rose up a prophet of one race and inspired him to teach his people the ways and customs of another prophet and we all know prophets are racially different.
Our prophet will have our religion and our permanent solution as well from the same God/Allah that rose up Prophet Mohammed. Since God did it for the Arabian people and the children of Israel then why is it so difficult for you to accept that God can do the same for Black Americans?
The reason I am the cleanest vessel that God anointed is because I never felt proud of having something that belong to another people. Islam belongs to the Arabian people and that is a settled fact, am I right. I was a person that always cherished having my own. I could never bring myself to believe that this Black and White, Mr. Fard Muhammad was God. I was never able to digest that an ordinary man could be God as well.
Likewise, Moses was never able to absorb the religion, customs and ways of Pharaoh. Mohammed was not able to digest the pagan ways, beliefs and customs of his Arabian people. For these reasons Moses was the cleanest vessel of all the children of Israel. Mohammed was the cleanest vessel of all the Arabian people. I am the cleanest vessel of all 41 million Black Americans. Am I making any sense with you?
Mr. Fard Muhammad was a follower of prophet Mohammed since Mr. Fard Muhammad's religion was Islam and he was a Muslim. None of these things could Elijah biologically be; therefore, Mr. Fard Muhammad misled Elijah and of course Elijah with his fifth-grade education had not the spiritual savvy to know better. In other words, Mr. Elijah Muhammad was blind, deaf and dumb all of this life. Had I been anointed before his death he would have at the least died with clear vision and hearing as well as spiritual intelligence because he would have come to know me, Prophet Harry.
Mr. Farrakhan and all of you Muslims are going to come to follow me. Elijah has passed and we are still subjugated; so, how can you intelligently conclude that Elijah was our prophet in light of all I have said to you thus far?
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, April 3rd 2011 at 4:35PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, hundreds of persons have claimed to be prophet or prophetess. Reality filters the true from the imposters by 'works". Judging from the works, Elijah Muhammad emerges as God's annointed to North America. The effects and staying power of his message supports this assertion. All the muslims in America owe a great deal to Messenger Elijah Muhammad for his deliverance of Islam in the west. It does not belong to the Arabs but all humanity.
Sunday, April 3rd 2011 at 11:05PM
jamal Abraham
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AGAIN,
ALLAAH says in AlQur'aan that ALL Muslim MEN can, will and do Marry- muslimWomen, jewishWomen, christianWomen, animistWomen, paganChristian women, hinduWomen and even 30 something singleWomen............
if siebraJamalGary have a problem with this---it is NOT me that you fill these pages with Falsehood, and FEAR
YOU ALL have a problem with Allaah--- you contradict AlIslaam and AlQur'aan---you fight TRUTH - AllaahAlHaqqa
I am a Muslim Man, a Muslim Man is Responsible siebraHarryJamalGary.
and if I am on a socialNetwork; I ANSWER QUESTIONS......................
I have never referred to anyone on a social, internet page as a witch..................
as far as 30 something, I AM CONCERNED that a Woman, condiRice or any quasiNonWoman, is getting older and no children--The Creator of Adaam(as) made-all women for the JOY and PURPOSE of matrimony, WE ARE FAMILY---
this is a social network and I waste NO time, unless I read your Falsehood and FOOLISHNESS, but I am instructed by Alllaah in AlQur'aan AlHaq to do good and oppose FALSEHOOD----your brand of Thought is paganChristian and MyTHought is based on AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as)---its not PERSONAL..........
Monday, April 4th 2011 at 8:17AM
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poor robert.....your rhetoric has meaning to the flying buzzards only....You speak Allslaam as if to refer to something differant than Islam. What are you trying to change the religion to suit you. ISLAM is what is known all over the world...
Monday, April 4th 2011 at 10:42AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Robert,
You are responding to what a Muslim man could do. However, Jamal's blog is about the Black woman believing that she is every man's woman. This is horrible!
You said this, " ALLAAH says in AlQur'aan that ALL Muslim MEN can, will and do Marry- muslimWomen, jewishWomen, christianWomen, animistWomen, paganChristian women, hinduWomen and even 30 something singleWomen............"
Robert, unfortunately you are not on the same page as the blog. Did Prophet Mohammed believe that it was no harm that any man of any race could copulate with an Arabian woman? If it was so then show it in the Quran.
What say you?
Monday, April 4th 2011 at 4:58PM
Harry Watley
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In Arabic the Language of AlQur'aan and Alllaah, yes littleKnowledge, AlIslaam has a different meaning than Islam.
If you knew anything about transliteration and translation and meanings of translation YOU, the 'educatedLittleScientist' might know at least something?
And littleHarry,
In AlQur'aan AlWahid, Alllaah in SuratulNissaa-(The Women)----tells the Believers, the Muslims, what I have stated above------ALL FEMALES, ALL WOMEN, from Adaam and Howah(Eve) are the Family of Man and ALL of them -- not married--CAN< WILL AND should be Married..................
littleJamalHarry---again, your disput and Falsehood is with Allaah, not a nobody like me, I CAN JUST READ--you guys need to READ something in any Language.............
Tuesday, April 5th 2011 at 8:20AM
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poor silly robert.....Well take your allsalaam.....as for me...I have ISLAM. You are correct in that you are nobody that knows nothing.
Tuesday, April 5th 2011 at 9:20AM
jamal Abraham
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the last two posters are nonKnowledgeable simpletons. they use a transliteration of a language they do not and will not study. just LAZY negros.
In English transliteration "Al" is a definite particle of speech that in the Arabic Language means 'THE'
'Islaam' is English Transliteration of a word in the Arabic Language that means 'the way of Living that the Creator of Adaam(as) has made for The Family of Adaam.............
they LOL with their negroMentality driven by kingJames version of religion for SLAVES, not MUSLIMS............
Learn and Read something you TWO simpleton......................paganChristians
Tuesday, April 5th 2011 at 9:41PM
powell robert
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Again, Islam has worked for me all my life and is is fine with Allah (God) the one Supreme Being of the Universe. I don't have to please robert.....who is not the author of Islam. The author of Islam if Allah (God) and He tells me that that is sufficient.
Tuesday, April 5th 2011 at 9:45PM
jamal Abraham
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I think discouraging mixing of the Races is Racist, honestly.
Tuesday, April 5th 2011 at 10:28PM
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OK, I'm caught......I love my race.
Tuesday, April 5th 2011 at 11:42PM
jamal Abraham
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Hi, Sister Jen.....nice to hear from you......I think "discouraging" is putting it mildly.
Wednesday, April 6th 2011 at 6:57AM
jamal Abraham
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All young African American women have been divinely advised against interracial mixing.....the warning is out....now let them live "knowing" and choose the better way to live.
Friday, April 8th 2011 at 1:02AM
jamal Abraham
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To my friend Jamal:
Here it is--PROOF. Actual empirical data that shows how your position has some powerful support in the community.
The problem is that the community that agrees with you are the WHITE RACISTS.
If you ran for public office on your anit-race mixing platform, they would probably vote for you! Maybe you could be Sarah Palin's Vice-Presidential candidate!!!
Here is the news story:
NEARLY HALF OF MISSISSIPPI REPUBLICANS THINK INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE SHOULD BE ILLEGAL
Talking Points Memo
April 7, 2011
Americans nationwide are evenly divided over the issue of same s*x marriage. But Republicans in Mississippi are divided over a wholly different wedlock issue: interracial marriage.
In a PPP poll released Thursday, a 46% plurality of registered Republican voters said they thought interracial marriage was not just wrong, but that it should be illegal. 40% said interracial marriage should be legal.
Gov. Haley Barbour, with a home state advantage in Mississippi, also topped PPP's survey of the GOP primary field at 37%, followed by Mike Huckabee at 19%, and Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich at 10%.
The poll also found that voters who thought interracial marriage should be banned liked Barbour, Palin, and Huckabee the most among the slate of potential GOP presidential candidates. Seventy-nine percent of those voters said they approved of Gov. Barbour's job performance, while 74% said they had a favorable opinion of Sarah Palin, and 73% viewed Huckabee favorably.
Friday, April 8th 2011 at 7:20AM
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Hello to Ms. Jen and Mr. Kigel,
God created animals as well as human beings. Many things can be learned through nature. For instance, is there any wisdom we could learn from nature about this interracial mixing? I certainly think so! For example; horses and zebras has biological commonalities that is they could impregnate each other. However, I do not think that a zebras would be racists to discourage intermixing with horses. I believe the zebra would be following the inherent law of nature that God created for the zebra to follow which is to breed with their own kinds and certainly the zebra would not be a racist zebra. Am I making any sense?
What I just explained neither Ms. Jen nor Mr. Kigel could say that I am wrong because we know nature is not wrong. What I said about the zebra intermixing with horses I said it based on an IQ of 68. I am practically retarded and I can see these things and you all that have masters degrees can't see what I see is baffling to me!
Tell me what you think.
Friday, April 8th 2011 at 7:53AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
Jamal you said that Islam has worked for you all of your life. The Black Christians say that Christianity has worked for them all their lives as well.
The truth is that neither Islam nor Christianity could ever work for Black Americans since we are neither Arabians nor European gentiles. It is a settled fact that Islam belongs to the Arabian people and it was Prophet Mohammed that brought Islam specifically for the Arabian people because of their practices of paganism.
Likewise, the European gentiles accepted Jesus as their prophet.
No people can be helped by God through a prophet that is a different race than they are. In other words, Jamal to be helped by God it has to be through a prophet and that prophet must be the same race as you are.
Actually, the people that have been helping you and Black Christians are White America. All of your sustenance has come to you by way of White America directly or indirectly.
When you will actually know the differences and that what I'm saying is the truth is when you accept your own and return Islam to its rightful owner, the Arabian people. You must accept your prophet, Prophet Harry and our religion LIFE.
I know that I am right because the same format that God used with the Arabian people God is using for Black Americans. For instance, God rose up and Arab man as a prophet for the Arabian people. In addition, God gave that prophet, Prophet Mohammed, the religion that the Arabian people must accept, Islam.
Well, the same format is happening with Black Americans. God rose up a Black American as a prophet for Black Americans. In addition, God gave that prophet, Prophet Harry, the religion that Black Americans must accept, LIFE.
Am I making any sense? Am I out of order? You tell me!
Lastly, Jamal the same concept and understanding that you have that race mixing should be strongly discouraged is the same concept that you should have worshiping God through the Arabian people's Prophet Mohammed. In other words, you should be worshiping and understanding God through your own Black American prophet, am I right.
What say you?
Friday, April 8th 2011 at 8:39AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Robert,
You seem not to understand that AlQur'aan, Al Islam and the Hadeeth belong to the Arabian people. What belongs to the Arabian people can do no good for Black Americans. Black Americans must have our own from God as the Arabian people had gotten their own from God.
Black America's first genuine prophet is Prophet Harry. Black America's religion is LIFE. If Black Americans should have a Hadeeth it will be the Hadeeth of Prophet Harry and certainly not Prophet Mohammed since Black Americans are not Arabian people.
Why is it so difficult for you to understand the truth of the things I say?
What say you?
Friday, April 8th 2011 at 8:51AM
Harry Watley
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Richard....Thank you for the facts showing how persons on both sides of the racial divide prefer racial integrity. There are whites that love procreating white children like there are members of the black family that prefer the save type children. So to be called a racist is not all bad.
Friday, April 8th 2011 at 8:59AM
jamal Abraham
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To my friend Jamal:
I thought you would not be very happy about the fact that you in sync with the racists, bigots and small minded people of this world. You might agree with them--but they would not welcome you anywhere near their neighborhood. They don't like black folks.
Don't you think your sympathy with those people is rather strange???
Friday, April 8th 2011 at 5:23PM
Richard Kigel
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Yes, Richard....I hear what you are saying.........but at least in quiet sessions....those bigoted, racist whites would know that I would not pose a threat to their women and white young ladies....and to many...that means something. Again, you can be cordial and respectful to a person even though you do not like a person.
Saturday, April 9th 2011 at 12:05AM
jamal Abraham
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@Harry....your conclusions are false....it reminds me of the scientific method when a student comes up with a conclusion that does not correspond with the data collected. To say that Islam being brought to us is invalid because it is rooted in Saudi Arabia is ludicrous. It is more that the planet earth has precious spots known as spots of maximum fertility. These areas are opposite to a wilderness which is where Black Americans reside. It is in the most fertile areas that the original human beings and wisest settled...that's all. And it makes since. If you were of four persons planning to spend the night over a friend of yours and they have 4 bedrooms. And your arrive at the house first...Would not you take the best of the 4 bedrooms. OK....Well those people that settled on the most fertile spot on the earth had a religion......and that religion was ISLAM.
Monday, April 11th 2011 at 10:23AM
jamal Abraham
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Why are you putting "race mixing" at the feet of black females?
There are far more black males who cross over the "race line" than women. Black women are very aware that they are looked upon more s*xually by white males than their black male partners.
Be fair more black males are willing to cross that line, not just with white women but latina and asian. The young women I speak with would rather date a black male.
My own personal point of view: One cannot help with whom one falls in love. I only have a problem with people who "prefer" another ethnicity because....
Monday, April 18th 2011 at 2:43AM
Viola Dunn-Thigpen
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That's true...there does seem to be more black males,particular in America crossing over to white females than black females. Either intermixing is no good...it is just that in THIS BLOG we happen to deal with the strange unnatural mixing of the black females. We deal with the black male intermixing in another blog.
Wednesday, April 20th 2011 at 1:23AM
jamal Abraham
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OK you all--I have one word to describe all of you conspiracy theorists who want to get into other people's business.
You are a bunch of...
BUSYBODIES!!!
The identity of the individual you commit to spending your time and your life with is one of the most intimate, personal and private decisions anyone can make.
Every individual is FREE to make his or her own decisions on the matter. I am sure you all would agree to that much, at least.
And every individual is entitled to have his or her own reasons for choosing that particular person.
PERIOD.
So when you--or anybody--makes disapproving comments or develops outlandish theories or compares one case to another case, YOU ARE TOTALLY OUT OF LINE AND OFF BASE.
BECAUSE...
You don't know what is another' person's heart.
Making up theories about it is pure fantasy.
You would not want strangers commenting on YOUR intimate personal decisions without even knowing you.
So let the men and women be. Let them choose who they want to choose. And leave them alone.
Wednesday, April 20th 2011 at 9:29AM
Richard Kigel
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A young woman gets raped...what do you do ? Ideally, you submit her to counselling and professional guidance. That way, before she starts dating again, she gets a reality check and puts her head back on straight. OK, say if a race of young black girls and women have been raped for 400 years, repeatedly......what do you do. Same thing....they should be submitted to counselling and professional advise....in order that they can begin to think clearly and rationally. It only makes sense. Otherwise, they may be abused again.
Young black girls and women need to absolutely stay clear from caucasian s*xually. It is nothing but trouble and awkward living. They go against the grain, against nature and against God. It has been about 150 years since slavery and the wounds of slavery have NOT HEALED. So, it is time for our African American Women to put their heads on straight ONCE AGAIN.
Wednesday, April 20th 2011 at 11:48AM
jamal Abraham
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Rich,
You are right on target. We spend more time talking about religion and race which don't mean a hill of beans than anything that we can do something about. We need to stay out of other peoples bedrooms. The so call races have been mixing forever. When we did have laws against race mixing it didn't help. If they couldn't get a licence, they just lived together. White man in America started the mixing business with already mixed people and if he will tell the truth, he is not WHITE anyway. If there ever was one, he has mixed with all of the people he came in contact with and he said one drop made one black so , in my estimation, he is black too, if there are any black people.
I don't believe that there is a way to purify the races. The only things of value that is pure are horses and dogs. And if they are pure too long, all of the resessive traits become dominant and then they are out of control. ex: Pit Bulls.I don't like SOME white people, I don't like some BLACK people There are no red or yellow people but some from other cultures I don't like either so what? No Big Deal. That is my personal problem because they may not even know how I feel.
Now is there something else to talk about?
@Jamal, I still waiting to hear your take on the BLACK MAN and the WHITE WOMAN?????
Wednesday, April 20th 2011 at 1:43PM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson
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Thomasena....there are rape victim shelters set up across America for the sole purpose of providing counseling and professional guidance to young girls and women that have been abused. Now, imagine if they have been abused for about 400 years. Then, it takes special help. Our young and old black sisters need counseling, professional guidance, prayer and black men to stand up for them. They need all of it. Otherwise, you end up with the likes of halle barry, Janet Jackson or Dianne Carrol. How sad.
Please check out my blog on black men and white women. Feel free to coment.
http://blackinamerica.com/cgi-bin/blog.cgi...
Wednesday, April 20th 2011 at 2:27PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Mr. Kigel,
I believe that you are missing the point that Jamal is making. Jamal established his foundation when he said that Black American women and girls have been raped for 400 years. Jamal went on to strengthening his foundation when he mentioned counseling and professional guidance is what I did only would be done today. Since this was not done for Black American women and girls Jamal feels that Black American women and girls are mentally incapable of making a choice because counseling and professional guidance they don't have.
It seems to me that Jamal is making very good sense. Mr. Kigel, you are thinking and addressing the feelings and choice; but, Jamal is saying that those feelings and choice are not the issue. The issue is that Black American women and girls have been raped for 400 years and are with out counseling and professional guidance and therefore she doesn't have a choice until she is rehabilitated spiritually, mentally and physically.
You, Mr. Kigel want to overlook the gravity of these inhumane things and believe that they have not affected the Black American women that belong to the Black American man.
Sure, it is her choice of the man she marries. However, we would like the Black Woman to make an intelligent choice but without counseling and professional guidance, how could she make an intelligent choice? She can't make an intelligent choice until 41 million Black Americans are free and sovereign on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to worship God, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.
The funny thing about this Richard is that only we, Black Americans can rehabilitate ourselves from our tragic past. It is unacceptable for anyone to help us. We, Black Americans must rehabilitate and civilize ourselves. For this to be done we must first have a territory or country of our own.
Anyway, do not forget Jamal's point. Jamal is saying that because of the raping for 400 years and without counseling and professional guidance the Black American woman is incapable of making a rational choice that would involve a man other than her own biological man which is a Black American man. Am I making any sense?
What say you?
Wednesday, April 20th 2011 at 3:01PM
Harry Watley
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"I have had very little sympathy with the curiosity of the world about my domestic relations. What business has the world with the color of my wife"
Frederick Douglass, August 27, 1884, in a personal letter to a friend after his marriage to Helen Pitts Douglass.
In other words, Frederick Douglass was telling the world to "BUTT OUT--and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!"
Good advice!!!
Wednesday, April 20th 2011 at 4:33PM
Richard Kigel
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Hello Mr. Kigel,
Mr. Kigel you are still missing the point Jamal is making. Jamal this talking about Black American women and girls raped and constantly being impregnated for 400 years have traumatized and screwed up Black American women and girls mentally.
Since you're presenting Mr. Frederick Douglass' marriage to this White woman suggests is to me that you have missed the point. Jamal is not talking about the Black Americans men and their marriages to White women. Jamal is talking about Black American women and girls raped for 400 years and have left Jamal's and my Black American women mentally messed up. Therefore, when a Black American woman makes the decision to marry outside for race she is not making an informed decision because of her mental condition.
Hopefully, I explained enough that you would get the message it is about Black American women and girls raped 400 years and it is not about Black American men.
Now, if I am in error please don't hesitate to correct me.
What say you?
Wednesday, April 20th 2011 at 10:28PM
Harry Watley
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Thats about right
Saturday, April 23rd 2011 at 7:20PM
jamal Abraham
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Why are you putting interracial marriage at the feet of black women? What business is it of yours whom one chooses to marry as long as they love one another? Further, black men outnumber the black women in interracial relationships. As a scientist, you must know that there are no such things as "races". There is only the "human race".
This was an idea put forth by those in the slave industry to justify the enslavement of other human beings. This kind of rhetoric is not new. It's old and it's stale. Move beyond it! Put your energy into something positive. There is so much that is more important than the color of one's skin.
Saturday, April 23rd 2011 at 8:54PM
Viola Dunn-Thigpen
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Jamal, you have absolutely no idea about what a woman goes through as a victim of rape. The act itelf is about power. It is a vicious physical attack by a man against a woman... any man of any ethnicity on any woman of any ethnicity! There is not only counseling. There is the physical exam, police questioning nof every detail and mental anguish. How are you throwing rape into the mix of dating and marriage across "color lines"? One subject has nothing to do with another. Stay on point!
Saturday, April 23rd 2011 at 9:14PM
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Did anyone see the Wednesdays episode of the survivors this week, the Black man Phil ( a buhdist) was called crazy and he went off on the White man who insulted him. The White woman, Julie decided to steal his underwear and buried them under a rock. She was voted off the show but she made the comment that he would never find his underwear. This type of retaliation on national television should give you an ideal why the Whiteman would be suspicious of his mate and feel more comfortable with some one of another race. He wants a relationship were s*x is not considered taboo.
Sunday, April 24th 2011 at 4:52AM
Helen Lofton
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Hello Jamal,
I would like to respond to Ms. Thigpen; but, out of respect I will hold back to give you the first opportunity to correct this woman's thinking.
Sunday, April 24th 2011 at 10:22AM
Harry Watley
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@Viola...you convey the inhumane harshness of rape very well. Yes, the horrors of police questions, I have no clue. But, this only enhances my point. It turns out that the act of rape incriminates the rapist. There is no way around it. In other words, singularly points a fingure at the person doing the raping. What that means is that our former slave masters were guilty of raping the African American girls and women. Therefore, rape points to a person and in the case of slavery.....a people. In fact, the caucasian people. It is not coincidental that the black women in America, now free will want to relive some of the old time pleasures at the slavemasters house, barn or shack. This is why she needs special counseling. That is an illness, a mental adnormality and subsequential behavior less than normal.
What counseling and professional guidance does it exposes the victim race with vulnerabilities made from slavery. Such as fearful of saying no to white people, inhibited when it comes to standing up to the caucasian, weak when it comes speaking your mind to white people. And and all of these conditions can put my sisters in awkward situations that may result in a date with a white guy when they really want or need to say respectively no thanks.
Sunday, April 24th 2011 at 12:36PM
jamal Abraham
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Science wannebes always substitute hokus pokus wizardry for truth. It is much easier than using differantial equations to strike an eight thousand pound missile 2 inches from its target over 100 miles away. Nations on the planet earth are evaluated based on factors as Gross National Product and operating expense budget. Not on bull**** whether you danced with the Ishmaelites or Edomites. The universe is not controlled my the ignorant, therefore bull**** nations generally are the poorest. Take the country of Haiti who believe in wizardry and hokus pokus to lead them. They think unseen forces are directing their affairs which is why they don't produce nothing. If a person is weak enough to believe that bull**** forces is making them do wait and do nothing...then that is there fault.
Reincarnation SHOULD NOT BE one of the main top 10 topics to a people without (1)Land (2) Government (3) unity (4) college and university (5) transportation (6) communications network (7) TV and Radio (8) Senior Living complex (9) Hospitals and (10) Malls and grocery stores
Sunday, April 24th 2011 at 12:49PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Saint Jake,
You said that (A) We can only achieve unity and progress with people that are spiritual right. That is correct and that is why when God visits a people the first thing that God does is anoint a prophet. The prophet is spiritually righteous since God inspires and guides the prophet. If and when the prophet does wrong God handles the prophet because the prophet is answerable only to God. Therefore, the prophet's responsibility is to make his people intelligent and righteous. In the case of Black Americans I am responsible of making them fit to become a sovereign nation on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. The second phase of my anointing will be about integrity.
Next you said. (B)The leadership should evolve from those that are qualified. Since Black America's situation is divine it does not matter how conventionally qualified a particular individual may be such as Dr. King or Mr. Obama if there are not anointed their qualification means nothing.
Brains can not get Black Americans out of this mess. It must be by an act of God.
What say you?
Monday, April 25th 2011 at 8:28PM
Harry Watley
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Yesterday, I had a taste for some bologne. One needs not to be a health nut to know that bologne is not the best meat to eat. Anyway, I went to my favorite grocery store and went to the deli section and ordered 3/4 lb of the Hebrew National beef bologne. It was $10.19 per lb. So the white Jews makes a product that is IN DEMAND. What does the black hebrew Israelites make that makes Americans purchase....that is in demand....that is available at the store.....nada...NOTHING....not one single thing....all they offer is wind and chant. My point is that a nation of people has land and makes products to generate income for its people. Blacks in America are all in the same boat.......producers of NOTHING......CONSUMERS OF GOODS PRODUCED BY OTHERS.....no matter what religion. To get us centered, young black ladies need to leave behind the caucasian male.
Tuesday, April 26th 2011 at 7:03PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal,
And Old, Young and in be tween BLACK MALES SHOULD leave the caucasian female alone. They started this mess. What are the women suppose to do? You are beginning to sound like "do as I say not as I do". Your argument still sounds one sided to me. How many brothers do you walk up to and ask him if he could do better?
Don't get me wrong. I still think I have no business in your personal life unless you are a part of my personal life.And since you and I both are a part of a mixed family, I still wonder what you suggest about your family members who are already mixed. I still say, there are no pure people and if the story is right in the "Good Book", they are our cousins too since there was only one family left after the flood.
Tuesday, April 26th 2011 at 9:42PM
Thomasena Martin-Johnson
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Hello, Thomasena...The thing about the truth is that it cuts coming and going. It does not any differance whose family it is....intermixing races will not be tolerated in the new world. Prudence demands to strengthen the source of our race production, meaning the woman so as to strive for purification. As far as the brothers, they will be encouraged to once again choose their own women, once the consequences are staring at them in the face. There is nothing the caucasian women has that the black women does not have but ATTITUDE. Once the attitude can be corrected, brothers will prefer them a sister.
Tuesday, April 26th 2011 at 11:44PM
jamal Abraham
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@Saint.....Peace to you...My attack as you call it is against any and ALL black groups in America. There is no escape behind tribalism or religion that will prevent any African American Group from facing the music to decision of nationhood abroad or remain in America. My divine work brings that decision to bear on the soul of all 40 million children of slaves now living in this country. The Great One God of the Universe wants all blacks to bone up to their decision and the consequences.
Wednesday, April 27th 2011 at 9:45AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Saint Jake,
Jake it is not possible to reason with you. You told me on another blog that you do not care what facts and truths I show you that the Roman Emperor did not chase our ancestors into West Africa in 70 A.D. Black America's ancestors were born out of the ashes of plantation slavery as we were. Black America's ancestors are Mr. Frederick Douglass and those before his time. Our ancestors are not in Africa; but, if you believe our ancestors are from Africa you must also believe that there are from England as well. Am I making any sense with you?
I carefully explained to you how Black Americans came into existence approximately 500 years ago. It all began in this country. I wanted you to join in and help me prove my point when I asked you did slavery happen in this country and you said you couldn't answer my question. Now, how dumb is that?
I re-signed to the fact that I cannot reason with you when you would tell me that you don't care what facts and truth I presents along with you refusing to answer my question about slavery tells me I cannot reason with you.
In a sense you are saying this. Harry I am an idiot and you cannot reason with me. I don't have intelligence. All I have is emotions. Well, I know that idiots you cannot reason with them. When I hear words such as I don't care what you say I know I am in the company of an idiot.
However, you want to continue your dialogue with me that Black Americans are Black Hebrew Israelites and that can only be possible if I somehow you could shut me down. So, your way of rationalizing is just one way. You say you don't care what facts and truths I present to prove that you are wrong. With a mindset as yours even if I am right you are going to make me wrong. So, am I reasoning with a rational mind? I don't think so!
I hate to hear a Black American say, "I don't hear". You must care if you are rational and intelligent. We are supposed to be coming together for what is right for our future generation. But, you are expressing your self about this Black Hebrew Israelite as a personal matter. When you tell a person you don't care. You are actually saying this is personal to me even when it turns out to be wrong. When something is personal to you, you don't care about facts and truths. So am I dealing with an irrational minded person? Of course I am!
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, April 27th 2011 at 4:50PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
The reason why Black America's country has to come out of this continent and not the continent of Africa is because this North American continent is the continent Black Americans came into existence. Am I right or am I wrong? Black Americans did not come into existence in Africa. There are no records of Black Americans living in Africa 700 years ago and that is because Black Americans came into existence on this continent out of the ashes of plantation slavery.
The reason the children of Israel had to leave the country of Egypt is because they had nothing tied to the country of Egypt. The children of Israel did not build Egypt. Egypt was in existence before the children of Israel came to Egypt through Joseph.
Black America's birthright to a continent is this North American continent and not the continent of Africa. Am I making any sense with you?
It is on this continent that Black America's ancestors picked cotton. Black America's ancestors did not pick cotton in Africa. It is on this continent that when White Americans had their Civil War Black Americans were freed. The Emancipation Proclamation was issued on this continent by an American president, President Abraham Lincoln. This proclamation was not issued in Africa and no African president presented it.
The thought of going to Africa to work in five different countries in exchange for a piece of land is ludicrous. Our ancestors already worked for land for us already. You do not know anything.
What say you?
Wednesday, April 27th 2011 at 5:14PM
Harry Watley
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To the ladies>>>>>Over 1100 hits to inform you that there are dreaded consequences for dating outside of your race. Life is difficult enough for black Americans and it is only compounded with the addition of a causasian on your back. They are nasty and renders you affected by their germs. Black women and young ladies trying to defend the caucasian male is equivalent to roaches for invading your home basement. You'll agree it seems awkward.
Wednesday, April 27th 2011 at 9:33PM
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Jamal, one question for the time being...Is that your real picture of you and if so how do you explain your skin color and not say it is due to a M-E-N-T-A-L defect running in your family that has led to your having light skin and still qualify to set up and ALL BLACK NATION?
YOU CAN ANSWER ME BY DELETING ME IF YOU LIKE . (ROTFLMY BLACK AO) (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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...oops little abe...it just may go a long way if y-o-u learn not to confuse the SCIENCE OF MATH WITH TRIGONOMETRY. back on the floor ( lmao) (smile)
and, by the way Albert Einstein could not do simple M-A-T-H. ..
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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jAMAL...IT DOES NOT MATTER TO ME IF YOU CAN NOT OR WILL NOT READ WHAT MY COMMENT SAYS...AND IGNORE MY ALWAYS SAYING THERE IS NOT RIGHT/ WRONG JUST ONLY MORE THAN ONE SIDE OF ANY ISSUE. (S-M-I-L-E)
AND, EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT YOU DENY WHAT IS CONTAINED IN YOUR OWN BLOG'S THEME...IT WAS NOT ME SAYING IT WAS WRONG OR A DEFECT NOR AN EXCUSE FOR MAKING ONE'S OWN CHOICES IN THEIR OWN LIVES TO BE HAPPY ON THEIR OWN I-N-D-I-V-I-D-U-A-L ACTIONS . IT IS YOU NOT ME WANT TO LIVE MORE LIVES THAN MY OWN...TO BE ABLE TO CREAT A NATION / MIND SET/ RELIGION, ECT. IN MY OWN IMAGE(OTFLMAO) (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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tHANKS ..@LITTLE aBE...for exposing a nation builder who can not tell teh difference in a question and a statement...
I now better understand why you asked me to ASK YOU A QUESTION...back on the floor (lmblackao)(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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..."I" WILL REPEAT..."HAVE THE A-B-I-L-I-T-Y TO THINK CRITICALLY" (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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...OH, AND BEFORE "i" WASTE ANY MOER OF YOUR VALUABLE ANTION BUILDING TIME LITTLE ABE...anyone with the ability to do 'critical thinking will realize you just made you own theme null and void with your reply to me about not having the right to make comments on your skin color...WHICH IN REALITY I NEVER DID...THANKS FOR PROVING TO THE SITE AT LEAST YOU ARE WRONG, WRONG, WRONG...THIS IS WHAT EDUCATION!!!EDUCATION!!!EDUCATION!! ALWAYS END UP DOING. (S-M-I-L-E)
BY JAMAL LOVED THIS BLOG...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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@ JAMAL IS IT YOU OR ADMINISTRATION THE IS PUTTING MY REPLYS IN THE WRONG PLACES????LOL (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@Siebra, why should all of the responsiablity lay on everyone but the individuals to bring about peace and unity in our community (and mainly the female to boot. example,
why can't you love and respect robert and Jamal of Farrakhan is hard for me to deal with but I am able to over come this obsticle because I in no way will be the one to assumeI have the moral/ legal rights to determinehow they should live thier life as "I" believe only they have the right to decide their choices in what makes them: happy, safe and secure"
and, my brother in spirit Rich "I" am not saying your are correct in our true BIA as well as our true African history...but "I" am saying that like you I do believe we are all members of the human race therefore we all have the right to survive and to make sure the human race survives dispite the countless ways and reasons we should always be on self distruct by any menas necessary.
again Jamal great blog...and if you can find a place on our planet withot war, religious disagreements, weapons of mass distructions...PLEASE SAVE ME A SPACE ON YOUR JESUS...O.K. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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And, may I add to your comment my brother COW, there are not enough of them to stop the Muslims from having freedom of religion in N.Y. nor out here is Ca.
AND, EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE FEMALES LIKE ME WHO WILL NEVER ALLOW ANY MASTER UNDER ANY SOCIAL NAME, RELIGIOUS LABEL TO FORCE, CONVINCE ME THAT I DON'T HAVE THE THINKING ABILITIES TO CHOSE WHO I WANT TO HAVE IN BED WITH ME AS A s*x MATE, BECAUSE i AM NOT A BABY MACHINE, #1 MAID, CHIEF COOK AND BOTTLE WASHER...i AM NOT AN OBJECT, s*x SLAVE NO MATTER THE PRICE PAID, BARTERED TO MY PARENT(S) FOR ME...
BECAUSE, IT IS STILL SELLING A HUMAN BEING TO SPEND THE REST OF THEIR LIFE BEING RAPED AND MENTALLY ABUSED NO MATTER WHAT NAME OR RELIGIOUS OR SOCIAL RITUAL NAME , LABEL YOU PUT ON IT TO JUSTIFY YOUR OWN SINS OR WHAT EVER ONE IS CALLED FOR NOT OBEYING SELF DISRESPECT AND LOVE...
JUS TMY TWO CENTS WORTH WHICH COVERS : RACE, CREED AND COLOR. (OTFL) (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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This blog is a perfect example of why we sould just come out of denial on...
ALL BLACKS ARE THE SAME...
ALL BLACKS ARE THE REASON MANKIND HAS VIOLENCE AND WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO HAVE PEACE AND GOOD WILL...
ALL BLACKS S-T-E-A-L...(NUP) (SMILE)
@STEVE THAT IS WHY ON ANY FORMS THAT HAVE WHAT IS YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE UNDER PENDALTYOF PURJURY..."I" ALWAYS PUT 'EBONICS'. "I" HAVE NO PROBLEM SPEAKING TH E GOD'S TRUTH IT IS NOT MY PROBOEM THAT THOSE WHO WROTE THESE FORMS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE GOD'S TRUTH. (SMILE)
AND, WHY STEVE THEY WILL STILL JUDGE YOU BY NOT YOU BUT YOUR SKIN COLOR AS THEY HAVE CONCLUDED WHAT RACE YOU BELONG TO...NOT YOUR PROBLEM AT ALL AND THEY WILL NEVER EVER ADMIT EVEN TO THEIRO OWNSELVES THEY ARE WRONG IN DOING THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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Hello Mother Goddess and endless thanks for always never allowing the Goddess in me(the female gender) not shine. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@Brother Gregory, I find "I" must respectfully disagree with you on this matter and here are some of the reasons why I have chosen to do this...
I will learn a lot from the links you have posted on this blog...
before learning from Jake the history of the Black Israelites, I for one had never even heard of them and my major was in our history...
I learned from robert how my believeing this between the NOI disagreements had to do with Minister farrakhan's being linked withthe death of Malcom X...was totally false...
not to mention my meeting Goddess blessing Goddess and Clarks expretes on our federal government's workings in the real world...
and here lately, "I" am seeing respect and unconditional trust given to Minister Farrakhan by the Black community that I have never seen before...just to name ONLY a few...
(S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@Siebra, it is just too bad so many of us know so little about the late, great Lena Horn...she said this about why she married a White man...
"I married a white man because he could take me places she could not go". EXAMPLE,
SHE COULD ENTER BY THE FRONT DOOR AND EVEN EAT AND SLEEP IN THE PLACES SHE WAS TEH HEADLINER AT!!!
YES WE CAN...YES WE MUST STOP ABUSING OUR OWN PROUD EXISTANCE TO OVER COME OUR DESIRE TO USE EACH OTHER IN OUR COMMUNITY TO PROVE WHY WE SHOULD NOT BE TREATED AS 'EQUALS' IN AMERICA AS WELL AS ALL OVER OUR PLANET. (N...U...P)
..AND, BY THE WAY, I DO BELIEVE THIS WAS ALSO BEHIND THE ACTIONS OF O.J. SIMPSON MICHAEL JACKSON AND TIGER WOODS, OUR NOW HAVING A BLACK F-I-R-S-T PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A....
IN THIS GENERATION...(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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...AND, WE ALL KNOW THERE IS NOT SUCH THING AS 'DIVORCE' BETWEEN BLACK MEN AND BLACK WOMEN, NOW DON'T WE?!?
(FOTFLMAO FROM THE R-E-A-L WORLD) (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@JAMAL...
here it is a whole new day and at least "I" am still waiting for you to keep your word to Rich...
and, hopefully it is as detailed by you to him as he was to you...
Rich went item by item...point by point with you and not any RAMBLING / making up excuses AT ALL . back (rotfl) (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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Sister Thomasena...two religions I am well verised in is NDB and the Chirstian Bible...and, at least to me...about the only difference I see in these logical arguements of Allah and God's teachings especially with the names of the prophets and lessons is in the pro and con useage of these 'teaching moments"...
a point I continue to bring up, but one knows how it goes when asking questions to/ of/ about a teaching that has all of the answers...ONLY...never an answer to the question... (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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..Oh, Jamal will your sisters be welcomed in your nation? "I" only ask because they seem to be so indipendant they seem to be able to make their own choice in life with any "leaders" doing it for them. And, I amonly going by the rules and regulations you have set for your nation buildings by way of this BIA site...
and, again I believe you have your ownself with those statement about your sisters and to siebra made you theme of your blog here null and void even more...
still waiting for you (as a sekf declared leader of nation building)to keep your words to my "White" brother and friend a nd best selling book author of our Black culture, Rich. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@JAMAL ONCE AGAIN you are going against the theme of yet one more of our post...and by the way as Rich's grand children have black and white parents in their TWO PARENT home...you Jamal reminds me of this statement by a Japanese_american when asked who did he want to win wwII...
his reply was, "WHEN YOUR PARENTS HAVE A FIGHT WHICH ONE DO YOU ROOT FOR TO KILL THEOTHER, YOUR MOTHER OR YOUR FATHER...
AND, I SAY THIS TO SAY...ONLY TAHT INDIVIDUAL KNOWS WHAT MAKE THEM HAPPY / NOT HAPPY...
MUCH LIKE YOU CAN WANT FARRAKHAN GONE...BUT YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO GO ON YOUR OWN TO SEE THIS COMES ABOUT...YOU WANT TO CREAT A NATION BUT, YOU ARE MORE DEPENDANT ON OTHERS THAN YOUROWNSELF TO GET THIS DONE...FOR YOU, LITTLE ABE, JAMAL, FATHER WHEN YOU YOUR OWN SELF CAN'T SEM TO KNOW WHO EXACTLY YOU ARE IN YOUR IDENTITY...
NOW DISRESPECT ONLY MORE OF SOME OF THE THINGS "THAT I GET OUT OF YOUR BLOGS" FOR WHICH I AM ABLE TO RESPECT YOU FOR NOT AGREEING WITH ME AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY WANTING TO CREAT A NATION AS I ALREADY HAVE MY OWN (SMILE)
AND, I AM HERE STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO STOP AVOIDING YOUR OWN WORDS OF TRUTH, JAMAL. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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Science says, now Jamal has just in his last comment eleminated color of skin altogather...
WHAT NEXT JAMAL, LITTLE ABE, FATHER...SOMETHING LIKE BLACKS ARE INDIVIDUALS?!?
NOW THAT'S DIALOGUING...AND WHERE STEPPING INTO THE OTHER'S SHOES ALWAYS LEADS TO UNITY, NOT WAR. (SMILE)
oh, and I mentioned science, because it can be tested and retested without changing.....loooooool...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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Jamal if that is representative of the teachings of Allah then may the God that you mention some times watch over you...because if that had been my baby daughter that you said this to and she was there with her uncle, cousin of her nephew then my greatest fear would have been realized...that one of these days I will be going to court seeing her tired for murder!!! ...
so hearing storys like this are never told about our prople being in jail, prison, the grave, hospitals because we are stuck on drugs and not in defense of demanding to be treated with respect as we are all due!!! (smile)
again a great blog and I shall be back still looking for ...you know what. lol (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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...oh and little abe...I am much darker than you and my baby daughter is darker than me and when I mean by uncle is my youngest brother or the brother of her father's...my daughter is passive, but she is very, very private and demands respect more than I could ever be able to do...and, she if thiese tings are violated she tends to do things like you just said you did...
ACT WITHOUT THINKING HOW EVER ACTION WILL ALWAYS HAVE A REACTION COMING BACK AS THE RESULT...(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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mOTHER gODDESS, tis is justfine with me, because as individuals we tend to confuse learning as wisdom and religion as a one size fits all...but "I" am one who is not so brain dead as to disrespect my own daughter who "I" always call a walking Bible while she is exercising her rights to privacy, freedom of religious choice and freedom of assembly amonge many other moral, legal rights I ask for myself as well as all of my EQUALS as members of the human roce...
AND, BY THE WAY MOTHER GODDESS "i" EXPECT A REPLY TO YOUR SUGGESTIONS ON TEH BLACK MALE ABOUT RIGHT AFTER THE ONE TO BROTHER COW...WHO HAS A BEST SELLING BOOK ON OUR CULTURE AS WELL AS ONE ON OUR AMERICAN HISTORY AS RELATED TO PRESIDENT A-B-E L.... AS WELL AS BEING A PUBLIC SCHOOL WRITING TEACHER.(OTFL) (SMILE)
great blog Jamal, thanks...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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...as it seem my reply to Mother Goddess about someone calling me O-L-D as well as how i am not a 'Buddhist" but a Nichiren Daishonin Buddhist must be qualified and for the same reason that as long as Jamal defines himself as a Muslim, "I" will never refer to him as a Jew. (smile)
NA,D MORE THAN HAPPY AND PROUD TO HAVE LIVED FOR ALMOST 69 YEARS AND IF THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR ANYONE THIS ISON THEM NOT ME. LOL OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO(S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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...THEREFORE ALL OF THE 142 DIFFERENT LABELS OF BUDDHISM (IN THE U.S ALONE)...
ALL OF THEIR FOUNDATIONS IS BUILT ON TEH PRIMISE OF: MAN'S SUFFERINGS ALL COME FROM THE PROBEMS OF:
BIRTH
SICKNESS
OLD AGE, AND
DEATH.
EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!! and use it to bring peace on earth and goodwill towards all of human kind and our environment.(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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LOGIC : All mortals will age / die...
Mankind are mortal...
therefore ALL MORTALS WILL AGE / DIE. (SMILE)
CREATION : Mankind does not have to depend on the tree for life...
EVOLUTION : Trees provides mankind with the oxygen they need in order to L-I-V-E. (smile)
"Just Thinking" lol (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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jAMAL, YOU ARE PRICELESS...and, I say this because it is so rare to find someone to be so happy over the only person in agreement with their message is the sender of said message their own self. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@sISTER Thomasena...like you I am waiting for two days now on Jamal's take on teh Black man and nonblack female...
and now three days on his getting back from his errand so he can get back to brother Rich as he said he would do then. lol (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@MIISRAEL, THANK YOU SO MUCH for you never ending words of wisdon as related to unity, peace on earth good will towards mankind...
and, may I add someting that makes perfect sense to me that I learned in my BIA study major...
My professor used te movie GUESS WOSE COMING TO DINNER as teh back drop...
he used it to explained the natural nature to protect one's own seeds. and the need to reproduca to keep the human species alive and kicking has evolved over time as it must...
today the female needs no direct contact with the opposit s*x or evenknow teh race, skin color, inetllegance, hight, eye color of the fathr of her child...which is called artifical insimination...it is not possiable for the female to acUSLLY GIVE VIRGIN BIRTHS...AND, AS I LIKE TO NOT ALLOW THE BULL S_INTO MY DAILY LIFE, I WILL CONTINUE TO GO WITH THE THINGS TAHT HAS BEEN PROVENED/ TANGABLE AS FO RME TRUTH IS STILL SUBJECTIVE......
AND, jAMAL, I COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG FOR BELIEVING A PERSON SHOULD HAVE THEIR WORDS REPRESENT THEIR NATURE THERE BY KEEPING THEM ONCE GIVEN. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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...SO SORRY...THAT WAS MEANT TO BE n-o-w CAN GIVE VIRGIN BIRTH AND NOT , not be able to give...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@Jamal, do you mean unnatural if a family member does not do it? Or are you saying that when a family member does it Allah approves or does he just change the rules of unnatural from being a minus / negative into a plus/ positive thing.
Me, "I" will just stick with that old fashioned idea that for every action there is a reaction. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@jamal, ONCE AGAIN I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO PLEASE STOP TRYING TO FORCE ME TO BELIEVE IN A BUDDHA G-O-D ONLY BECAUSE IT IS YOU NOT "I" WHO: BELIEVE, CALL, DEFINE BUDDHA AS A G-O-D AND NOT A MAN....AS "I" HAVE ALWAYS AND ALWAY WILL CALL, DEFINE ECT. BUDDHA AS A MAN.
THANKS SO MUCH LITTLE ABE, JAMAL / FATHER...(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@AS A 'SISTER'...I will just stick with my beliefs in each and every human being is an individual entity...and why I do not consider any human who likes pineapple or is not female as wrong, unfit, less than, because I don't like pinapple and because my gender is not male. (smile)
"I" never try to fool nor fool with Mother Nature. (otfl) (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@Jamal, in relations to your reply to Jake, I must congradulate you in your showing more of how this blog has caught our interest and how it "foretell's you and your leadership...with that reply about the African -American father, husbands during slavery...you not only eliminated parts of our BIA history, but American history to boot.
You eleminated the lives and happeining in from Nat turner to Fredrick Dougless to the Civil war.
and, againJamal, little Abe, Father, nation builder, thanks for this great blog. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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