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'She's Ghetto': Sterotypes Black Women Internalize (683 hits)


Monday Apr 11, 2011 – By Bene Viera When a BBC News reporter from the UK contacted me last summer about being the core subject of a radio documentary focusing on single Black women, my immediate reaction was skepticism. American media had been particularly careless with the topic (read: Nightline, Washington Post); and I didn’t want to be a contributing source perpetuating the spinster Black woman meme. After several conversations with the reporter who convinced me she would not use my story to paint a broad picture of all Black women, I agreed.

I flew out to New York City on the Fourth of July weekend for the documentary. The reporter set up a series of blind dates for me that I’d go on with different types of men. She also interviewed me in various locations such as Grand Central Station or on subway platforms about the state of single Black women, as well as my overall feelings about each guy. After spending three days with the BBC reporter, I was confident she had done significant research, interviewed several sources and understood enough of where all of her interviewees were coming from to convey a balanced story in her documentary. Unfortunately, I was wrong.

After waiting a few months, both an article and the documentary went live on BBC’s website. As I listened to the documentary I shook my head in shame at her angle, and wondered if I had presented anything that led her to believe her final assessment: “Blacks tend to believe stereotypes about one another.” She used this reasoning as the basis of why 42 percent of Black women have never been married. I completely disagreed with her notion about us internalizing stereotypes. I even loathed her as an Indian British woman making such a claim.

A few weeks ago Clutch ran “Help! I Don’t Have Any Black Female Friends” by Niesha Miller, which I avoided reading like the plague. However, I eventually read the piece after several writer friends insisted I read and pay close attention to the comments.

Although the author’s experience of lacking Black female friends was unlike my own, I know quirky Black girls and women who grew up around all white people, hence the reason they claim to have no Black friends. I respected the author for being honest in her evaluation of why she didn’t have any Black female friends. And I commended her for not using the article as an avenue to dish a laundry list of reasons why Black women are unfriendable (yeah, I made that word up). But the commenters had no qualms revealing their similar stories, and basically throwing certain types of Black women under the bus. It was then it hit me that the BBC reporter may have been on to something. Through the comments it was plainly obvious that some Blacks are notorious for internalizing stereotypes about one another.

Many of the comments caused me to cringe as the term “ghetto” was tossed around loosely to mean bad, uncouth or unintelligent. Once one person accused Black women of being nasty toward one another, the horror stories of rude Black women and the ones who don’t bother speaking to the other Black women in their department kept coming. There was some obvious pain in the tone of some of the comments. Women recounted their childhood stories of Black girls being the ones who bullied them. And admittedly a few of those same women have allowed those experiences to shape their interactions with Black women today.

When one woman attempted to address the way the comments displayed Black women internalizing stereotypes, no one seemed to want to participate in that conversation. What she considered as internalizing stereotypes was brushed off as truth telling. The fact is, as was argued, there are “ghetto,” rude, nasty Black women according to some of the commenters.

I eventually closed out my Firefox tab and thought about how this internalizing of stereotypes may be contributing to the divisiveness in our community. When I thought about the author having no Black friends, I attributed this to class and socioeconomic background. In reading the comments it turned out to be a revelation on the ugly things we think about one another as Black women.

The historical divide and conquer methods used to colonize Blacks globally are still at play in the 21st century. House ***** vs. field *****, light skin vs. dark skin, male vs. female, good hair vs. bad hair, were constructs created by white racists, but are being perpetuated by us.

As women we are already fighting patriarchy, misogyny and s*xism. Do Black women really need to fight another battle with each other?

In working hard to make sure we are not a stereotype, too many have adopted a mentality of proving to the rest of the world, ‘I’m not like the bad ones, I’m one of the good ones.’ This mentality has caused us to turn our noses up at our own people.

I challenge Black women to think about the negative ideas we hold about other Black women. Do we automatically assume a woman from the “ghetto” is stupid and unsophisticated? When you meet other Black women, are you holding on to a notion she will be catty or rude? And are you judging people individually or based on their class or socio-economic background?

It is much harder to combat racism and s*xism when we’re internalizing the very stereotypes we’re trying to dismantle. Women have enough external battles to be fought. We don’t need internal ones that reinforce the fallacy that we are our own worst enemies. ­
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You say it's the historical divide and conquer methods used to colonize Blacks globally are still at play. Sounds more like competitiveness, when tow or more people need the same thing (love, attention, etc) it triggers conflict.
Saturday, April 16th 2011 at 12:25PM
Helen Lofton
When it comes to responsibility and accountability, I think of the saying that Irma uses. I can only be responsible for my own actions. You can give people clear directions and good advice, but it is their own choice to follow it or not.
Saturday, April 16th 2011 at 2:17PM
Helen Lofton
I believe that women who do not protect their offspring, women who do not give their offspring Worth, women who do not give a Mother Tongue to their offspring are GHETTO.

That is why europeanJews used the ghetto term first.


Saturday, April 16th 2011 at 6:05PM
powell robert
It's interesting that the blog centers in on Ghetto to try to catagorize all women of color. For me, it has little to do with colonialization now. What it boils down to is ignorance as women and as Sister Helen stated people being overly competitive for which I think has to do with the economics of supply and demand. As a whole, I'm a friendly kind of girl who likes to talk and meet people. For me, it has been challenging meeting women like myself in my own ethnic group. Ask me why? I can't tell you. Perhaps you guys can answer that. To be real frank, I find the commentary to be true in my case when it comes to interacting with other women of color. It's almost like I have to fit in a particular box or stereotypical catagory to be friends and that's a no go area because I'm an out of the box type girl!

On Sat. I took my LO to McDonald's Play Area and met another young lady around my age who had a little boy around my son's age. She appeared to be someone that I'd like to befriend if not for the only reason that she had a son the same age as my son. I usually don't engage other Black women directly, because of past experiences but I did smile at her as I do anyone else. When her LO began to cry, I inquired about what happened and tried to console him which the mother greatly appreciated. I sort of wished that I had engaged her in a conversation, but I didn't because of fear from past experiences. I made it my business to say good bye to her as we were leaving. I felt sort of sad that I didn't inquire if she comes there often or what school or area she lived. Who knows, we could have arranged playdates or something.

I do believe that we as women need to be more kind and forthcoming because I don't see that happening alot in women of color. I do what I can when I can but as a whole, I am able to communicate openingly more with other ethnicities because trying to establish rapport with others in my ethnic group can be like pulling teeth at times.
Monday, April 18th 2011 at 1:21AM
Jen Fad
I mentioned ghetto from the europeanDerivation---I did not place a color on it.
Saturday, May 14th 2011 at 8:05AM
powell robert
Hello to All,

The only permanent solution to this argument is that Black Americans become a sovereign people on a fertile portion of this continent that we can call our very own country with borders.
The children of Israel had the same arguments with each other until God intervene with a permanent solution… the Exodus, am I right.

Black Americans need to be in an isolated situation to unravel ourselves from the concepts and the influences of others… White Americans… that has affected us since the days of plantation slavery. The children of Israel did their unraveling in the desert over a period of 40 years when they had to fend for themselves.

These types of arguments will continue. There is no end to these types of ignorant arguments unless what happened to the children of Israel happens for us, Black Americans.

Am I making any sense? Are you all going to get angry with me now because I am telling you the things that make sense and are true?

The stuff that you all talk about have no ending, am I right. My generation talked about being free. The previous generation talked about it all so. Now, the present…. the young generation talk the same talk, am I right. God intervene to stop our dumb ****! Know what I mean? Is

Tell me what you think.

Saturday, May 14th 2011 at 2:14PM
Harry Watley
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