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They doubt Messenger Elijah Muhammad....WHO'S LAUGHING NOW BLACK MAN AND WOMAN (2503 hits)


Holy Quran : Chapter 8 verse 24........."O you believe, respond to Allah and His Messenger, when he calls yuou to that which gives you life. And know that Allah comes in between a man and his heart, and that to Him you will be gathered ".

Messenger Elijah Muhammad spend 45 years teaching and guilding Black Americans as to the foregiveness and mercy almighty God Allah had bestowed on the Lost Sheep as described in Bible. God's coming in person was due to the granting of nationhood awaiting when Black American wake up to a spiritual death administered by the former slavemasters. Though followers of Islam are in the millions today in America...the vast majority of black Americans still accept the European religion of Christianity as their religion. So they laughed at the teachings of Elijah Muhammad. Now, today, who is laughing. Tornados, unemployment, disease, homelessness, drug abuse and drunkeness are all too common among black communities......so WHO IS LAUGHING NOW ?
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Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 12:07PM
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Hello Jamal,

You say the vast majority of Black Americans still accept the European religion of Christianity as their religion.
Similarly, a vast majority of Black Americans accepts the Arabian religion of Islam as their religion, am I right. So, my question to you is what is the difference?

Neither Christianity nor Islam belongs to Black Americans. Black Americans are neither Europeans nor Arabian people. So what makes you think that the so-called Black American Muslims are smarter than the Black American Christians are? Both Black Christians and Muslims are spiritually ignorant.

Black America's religion is LIFE. We have a different religion from the Arabian and European people have and it should be that way, am I right.

The so-called Black American Muslims are followers of the Arabian people just as the Black American Christians are followers of the European people. Is not this the same as the pot calling the kettle black?

Tell me what you think.

Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 2:07PM
Harry Watley
@Saint....after hearing the disgust of our people made victims from the string of tornadoes raging across the south...their weeping and moaning....and the continued unemployment.....expressed a light that Black Americans will wake up to separate from the serpant and claim what is their.
Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 2:16PM
jamal Abraham
Harry, you are dillusional and speaking from both ends of your mouth. How can the majority accept both Islam and Christianity....are the batty. The vast majority of Black Americans are Christian.
Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 2:17PM
jamal Abraham
Great Blog Brother!!!
Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 2:32PM
Siebra Muhammad
@Saint....true "freedom" is a gift or a blessing that the almighty God of this universe provides to all humanity excluding no one. To live as a nation within a nation for any group is a temporary state of existence that cannot last forever. Even my passifying the weaker group has a time limit. When these limits are exceeded, prophets are sent and/or destruction follows to allow the weaker nation to " go " FREE.
Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 3:10PM
jamal Abraham
Hello Jamal,

Did you understand the point that neither Christianity nor Islam belongs to Black Americans?

What bothers me about it ignorance of my people including yourself is that you all are not upright people with a desire to move ahead.

In other words, did my point decrease in value because I said the vast majority of Christians and I also said the vast majority of Muslims when in reality only one group can be the majority? Okay, did that change the value of my point? No, it did not change the value of my point. So why would you complicate matters unnecessarily? It is because you are an ordinary Negro with the mentality of an ordinary Negro.

Anyway, do the Arabian prayers mention Black Americans and our prophet? No! No Arabian prayer that you all recite mentions Black Americans by name. However, the Arabian prayers that you recite only mention Arabian people and the Arabian prophet, Prophet Mohammed.

So, how much wiser are the ignorant Black American Muslims are over the ignorant Black American Christians.

That is the question for you to answer and not which a group is the majority. I am saying that both groups are ignorant Black Americans. I am the only wise Black American since I am anointed.

I am not dissolution when I tell you that Islam belongs exclusively to the Arabian people since it was an Arabian man that God anointed as there prophet and gave to them the religion of Islam over paganism.

Now, since you are not an Arabian man why do you not have your own religion LIFE if you claim you are wise and the father of a new nation. You claim that God sent you. You know that God would never rise up a Black American man and fill his head with the Arabian Gospel to save his Black American people. Black Americans and Arabian people are entirely too different people, am I right.

We must have our own. The concept of having our own God gave me. On the other hand you have what God gave the Arabian people 1400 years ago, am I right. I am telling you that you must put Islam down and follow me.

What say you?

Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 4:36PM
Harry Watley
Hello Jamal,

Let me congratulate you on your rationalization to Saint Jake explaining that God blessing to all people is that they be free and sovereign. But, in special circumstances such as ours God responsibility as God comes front and center.

Let me explain. Black America's situation is special in the sense that we were deliberately born in into slavery. Black Americans were never once free and then captured by another people as what happened with the Native American Indians.
In addition, Black Americans when never colonized as many African countries have. Our situation demands more attention from God than the children of Israel's situation demanded when God anointed Moses.

Everything that I said that Black Americans are going to inherit a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to worship God, pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way is going to happen.

Your concentrating on the tornadoes is not helping Black Americans one iota. Helping Black Americans would be to have Black Americans desire to have their own prophet and religion, which goes along with having our own country when the time comes for us to inherit a fertile portion of this continent.

Know it for sure that Black Americans are not going into our country having the religion of Christianity or Islam. We will have our own religion LIFE. The Christian prophets are not going to get the credit and neither will the Arabian Prophet Mohammed get the credit.

The credit of our sovereignty goes to God. It is God that gave us our first genuine Prophet Harry and our religion LIFE. Therefore, we don't need an Arabian prophet and neither do we need their religion of Islam. We must have our own. We must be original. We are no longer slaves. Slaves have things that belong to other people. Am I making any sense?

Tell me what you think.



Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 5:31PM
Harry Watley
Hello Saint Jake,

I do not know what you are asking me. What I do know is that when slavery began and pure Africans were transported from Africa to America as slaves. The White American people purchased the Africans from the slave traders.

Thereafter, the White American people bred themselves with the African slaves and the off-spring continuously to increase their slave livestock population. It was not uncommon that the slave master would sell a child he fathered to another slave master. It was not uncommon that children fathered by the slave master would be out in the fields picking cotton.

From all this came Black Americans who are a new breed of people born out of the ashes of slavery. We are as dumb and as stupid as hell is. Since our time has come God sent us a prophet from our own loins to prepare us to become a sovereign people on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

I am here to tell us and prove to us who we are and how we came into existence. I believe I did that in the couple paragraphs above. We are not black Hebrew Israelites, what ever the hell they are? We are not Muslims since we are not Arabian people. We are not Christians since we are not European people. We are not African Americans since we did not come from Africa. We are Black Americans until such time the intelligent ones among us changes our name for the last time that the entire world will accept and that is when we become a sovereign people.

I am the way, and beside me, and there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world.

What say you?

Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 5:48PM
Harry Watley
@Harry....if you want to come to come then make it straight. That's all. Speak correct or there is no going further. The vast majority of Black Americans are Christian. period. So first, get that straight. They are Christian because it is easy to be a christian. There parents were Christian and their parents were Christian and it goes back to slavery when the white slave master made them Christian. The point is that the vast majority of my and your people have not changed their religion since slavery....when the white man beat the living sh_t out of them until they accepted that white people were really angels and that their God was crusified on a cross and will come back to save them after they turn their cheek for the white man all their days when the white man bust the crap out of them in the mouth.
Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 6:02PM
jamal Abraham
I hear you, Saint. So here me. In America there are many white groups...the puritans, the quakers, the Irish, the Mormons, the KKK, and other anglo-saxon group. They all can get along because they are all SMART enough to realize the importance of LAND. So they all share this land as white people and control all the nig-grs. Who cares what their domination of Christianity. They don't care....they just are all a bunch of hard workers and work to build this land of theirs. The one common bond is the American LAND. A nation is defined by land. If a people have no land they don't count. It is time for black Americans to count. It does not make a differance who you call yourselves if you don't count.
The work of little Abraham is to make you count, not by my standards but by divine standards.

Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 6:12PM
jamal Abraham
Jamal,

I agree with you that the majority are Black Americans are Christians. However, that is not my point. My point is that neither Christianity nor Islam belongs to Black Americans since Black Americans are neither Europeans nor Arabian people.

You are a Black American that has the religion of the Arabian people. What I am saying about you is that you have been misled. You do not qualify for the Arabian people religion of Islam since you are not an Arab man. You qualify for the religion LIFE since the religion LIFE is Black America's religion. Am I making any sense with you?

In other words, you do not have the right, rationale and authority to say that the Black American Christians are wrong for having the religion of Christianity while at the same time you have the religion of Islam and you are not an Arabian man and neither are the Black American Christians European people. Both the Christians and the Muslims are wrong.

Islam can not unite Black Americans and Christianity can not unite Black Americans. What can unite Black Americans is a religion that exclusively belongs to Black Americans and that religion is LIFE. Am I making any sense with you?

Jamal, you must abandon Islam just as Ms. Jen Fad must abandon Christianity. It Elijah Muhammad was alive I would tell him the same thing.

What say you?

Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 6:28PM
Harry Watley
@Harry....must "again" insists you stick with the subject or have to use my delete button.
Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 6:45PM
jamal Abraham
First of all Lets Clarify somethings: Elijah Muhammad was not God or Allah in any sense, in fact his teachings where in actuality so counter productive the only real question is was he INTENTIONALLY misleading the masses, or as he himself misled?
As far as the comparison between Christianity and Islam, To even Compare the two is an open testament of ignorance; the word Islam Literally means " Submission" and "peace". These two meaning are rooted in the Root word for Islam, SLM which is the bases of alot of terms in both the Hebrew and Arabic language.
The word Christianity means what? "follower of christ?" a term he himself never once used? so what was Christs religion? Did he speak Aramaic (Yes!) did he worship and submit to the creator of all things (yes!) then he was a muslim (one who submits) and his religion was Islam (the act of submission). Therefore do not compare the Debt of Submission to the religion of the followers of Paul. Islam is Not an Arabic religion. How could it be when Abraham was a Muslim and he is the father of the Arabs? this is not fundamental ramblings brotha, but a universal truth. a truth that can only be understood if you speak the language. Everything Created was Created Bound By the Laws of Its Creator. this is called bieng created in a state of submission, a state of Islam. therefore every being created SUBMITS to the creator with or without will. that makes us all muslims. dispute it only if you have been tricked into believing that Islam started in the arabian desert and all black muslims follow farakhan
FurtherMore, Black America Suffers from Disinformation. Everything that we have been told and are being told is the deceit of the devil and we fall for it every time. they got us with Kennedy, they got us with Bill, and they got us With Barack. Our independence will not be secured until we become self-informed, self-involved, and self-Aware of our Physical, mental, Spiritual and cultural identity.

Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 7:22PM
Chairman Ali
Much pleased that you chose to comment, Ali. Not sure whether you are member of the original black race so not say brother just yet. Nevertheless....as a practicing electrical engineer, my motivation is not on the smoke and mirrors. That is the intangible. Rather the tangible which can be touched. Scientist deal with things that can be touch, viewed, or in other words sensed. In other words. where is the nation that Black Americans rule ? NO WHERE

Where is the currency that black Americans generate ?
Where is the power generation plant that Black Americans own ?
Where is the water utility plant distribution network that Black Americans own
Where are the metal refineries that Black Americans own ?
Where are the gas and oil pipelines that Black Americans own ?

In other black Americans own nothing but a big mouth. This is why almighty God Allah allowed the caucasian to kidnap our ancestors over 500 years ago...to teach us how to work and work faster....how to build and build faster....how to manufacture and manufacture faster. Sure our ancestors were the first builders...but it took ancient Africans much too long to build....way to slow....to build a pyramid would sometimes take 50, 70 or 80 years. The white man can build a shopping center from the gound up in 3 weeks.

Many white pollocks are dumb and ill-informed, ill-involved and not aware yet..they have a thriving country or nation of their own. Of all the black groups if we can call them that...the Nation of Islam has come the closest to arriving at a divine goal of nationhood. As more black christians loose their home to natural disasters and unemployment, they will realize that Messenger Elijah Muhammad was indeed the LAST AND FINAL MESSENGER OF ALLAH, THE GREAT ONE GOD.
Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 8:09PM
jamal Abraham
Brotha, I Self Lord Am Master, And original. I encountered the truth through the Moorish Science temple and Prophet Noble Drew Ali. But I also studied under some of the astute FOI's who where upright independent and fearless. I therefore recognize well that such teaching have the SOLE PURPOSE OF WAKING THE DEAD. ONCE THE DEAD are awakened, then, there must be an advancement to the next level of understanding. So while I recognize ELijah Muhammad as being one of the teachers of some of my teachers, I also recognize that his TIME OF use is OVER.. He awakened us to the knowledge of self; know we must move own to the next level of knowledge where we understand that OUR ENEMY DOES NOT TARGET US BECAUSE WE ARE BLACK; MORE TO THE FACT, THEY TARGET US BECAUSE WE ARE EXPENDABLE, JUST LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE REST OF THE POPULATION. BUT NOW IS THE CRUCIAL TIME WHEN WE MUST BUILD BASED ON SELF PRESERVATION OF OUR SPECIES IN ORDER TO INSURE THE SELF SURVIVAL OF OUR IDENTITY. IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THAT LET ME PUT IT IN AS SIMPLE TERMS AS POSSIBLE: IF WE ARE STILL FOCUSED ON TRYING TO BUILD A NATION WHEN THE NATION GOES, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE BLACK PEOPLE??? IF AMERICA CRUMBLES, AND WE CRUMBLE WITH IT, THEN NATIONALISM WAS OF NO USE TO US.
ELIJAH MUHAMMAD MISLED THE PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING THAT ISLAM WAS SOMETHING SECULAR. IN FACT, HE ACHIEVED THE PURPOSE OF SPLINTERING ISLAM AS EFFECTIVE AS FOX NEWS PITS SHIA'S AGAINST SUNNI'S. HE COULD HAVE JUST AS EFFECTIVELY BROUGHT ISLAM IN ITS TRUE NATURE AND TRANSFORMED THE ENTIRE SOCIETY, NOT JUST THE 50,000 OR SO PEOPLE WHO STILL DECLARE SOME ALLEGIANCE TO HIS MOVEMENT. MY MAIN PROBLEM WITH HIM HOWEVER IS THE INFLUX OF FREEMASONIC, SHRINER AQUARIAN GOSPEL RHETORIC INTO HIS TEACHINGS. THAT STUFF IS GARBAGE, MEANT TO TRICK YOU INTO THINKING YOU KNOW SOMETHING YOU REALLY DONT KNOW. I KNOW THE LESSONS WELL BROTHER, SO IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN, WHILE CONTINUING MY NEVER-ENDING TRACKING OF THE GLOBALIST AGENDA, I FIND DOCUMENTATION THAT TRACES ELIJAH MUHAMMAD'S TEACHINGS DIRECTLY TO THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT AND HELEN BLAVATSKY??? WHAT DOES THE "MOTHERSHIP" HAVE IN COMMON WITH THE "NEPHILIM?" RIDDLE ME THAT..
STOP TELLING LIES TO MY PEOPLE. ISLAM IS THE TRUTH AND UNDERSTANDING IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW TODAY. AND THIS I CAN PROVE, AND I CHALLENGE ANY ONE TO PROVE ME WRONG
Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 9:25PM
Chairman Ali
It is like a person want to be your friend and you get an invite...but no picture....no thanks
Sunday, May 1st 2011 at 10:37PM
jamal Abraham
Thanks Saint....for that insight.
Monday, May 2nd 2011 at 12:09AM
jamal Abraham
Saint...you would probably make a good intelligence officer for Nation Building Group.
Monday, May 2nd 2011 at 1:09AM
jamal Abraham
Not sure right now how Allah(God) will make that happen but when the replacement occurs, it will put the Nation of Islam on a dimension of model building; a model nation for the Asiatic people and a model government for the people of the world. The new model nation will take place in Africa and my 30 some years of solid manufacturing engineering experience will bear on the success of its economy. Brothers and Sisters of the Nation of Islam will demonstrate to the people back in Africa, etiquette, value and self respect.
Monday, May 2nd 2011 at 2:23PM
jamal Abraham
First Of All, My Name Is Demarrio Bell. Thats the Name The government Gave Me. The Name Given to me by the imam of my community while incarcerated is Ali Ibn Al Nas. This is the name i am universally known as. My people Call Me Ali. Chairman Ali Describes the Function that I fullfil in my role as the Chairman of the Board of Directors of Multiple Organizations and Initiatives i am currently COMMITTED to. If you want to know anything about any of that or them, you can contact me directly, IF YOU WANT PICTURES GO TO FACEBOOK. THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF SITES RELATIVE TO WHAT WE DO THAT I COULD SEND YOU TO, BUT MY POINT HERE WAS NOT TO VALIDATE MY EXISTENCE. i DIDNT EXPECT THE MINISTERS FINEST TO REACT IN SUCH A WAY. IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH WHAT I SAID, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED WITH INTELLIGENCE..... Instead I get, "i challenge you with that dumb ass ****, lets dance?" Hun? what part of what i said offended you such brotha? you think im slandering? You may be used to chatroom revolutionaries but i am not one. the TRUTH CAN BE VERIFIED. I AND I WOULD PROVIDE MY PERSONAL PHONE NUMBER TO ANY BODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION. Furthermore i have dedicated my life to this struggle for the sake of ALLAH, not for the sake of chatroom prestige. i did 12 years in prison, from the age of 16, and immediately Allah sent the elder brother to cuff me and guide me away from the foolishness i was due to persue. prior to going to prison i was vicelord, and my existence was the typical existence of every one like me in the community. however allah's infinite wisdom demanded a TRANSFORMATION. So i turned my prison into my university, and I read and studied EVERYTHING i could. Not to mention the powerful Model of the elder brothers who had already begun the journey of the discovery the knowledge of self. AND EVERYTHING I STUDIED I STUDIED IN DEPTH, SO DONT THINK YOU TALKING TO HE WHO KNOWS NOT, BECAUSE I READ THE STUDY GUIDES AND ALL THE OLD AND NEW LESSONS. I STUDIED UNDER MINISTERS IN THE NATION WHO YOU PROBABLY WOULD GET LOST TALKING TO (SORRY FOR ASSUMING). I Come from a diverse community where we had FOI's Moorish Americans, Nuwabians, Sunni's, Shia's etc. Not only did we get along and stand on our square for the years we where down we EXCELLED In knowledge wisdom and understanding, we shared experiences and passions and made plans from the knowledge we where obtaining. today there are at least 10 of us, all of different persuasions but each one out of prison and being PRODUCTIVE AND INVOLVED IN DIRECT COMMUNITY ACTIVISM. we not singing about what needs to be done or should be we doing it. so the last thing you should be doing is challenging what i am and what im on. In fact if you could see it you would want a part of it.
as far as the actual conversation. I understand the passion that we are used to holding on to beliefs with. this passion can sometime cause an emotional blockade to be put up against the truth. we know this condition well because some of our christian brothers and sisters have it bad. SO UNLESS YOU ARE ABLE TO REMOVE THAT EMOTIONALISM, AND PROCEED WITH A CLEAR AND SOUND MIND, YOU WONT EXCEPT ANY PROOF I GIVE YOU ANYWAYS! BUT I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU ANYWAYS. SO WHAT PART DO YOU WANT ME TO PROVE??? i AM WORKING ON BUSINESS SO I WILL BE ONLINE ALL DAY!! MATTER OF FACT, MY GMAIL ACCOUNT IS REBWORLDMEDIA@GMAIL.COM . Its whatever. and FYI UHU is the the acronym for Underground Hustlas University, another initiative i am co founder of, which is an online internet marketing educational environment and business networking center.
oh i almost forgot. the chairmain mao thing hahaha. did you know what a Chair Man was? before i told you?
Monday, May 2nd 2011 at 7:33PM
Chairman Ali
this concerns the fact that the NOI Islam is has been, or definitely is now, an organization whose true aim, unbeknowest to most of its members, is as AN AGENT OF THE GLOBALIST AGENDA, IN THE COMING MANUFACTURED CRISIS.
The evidence i have for this is fully documented and has been presented to numerous gatherings and educational forums. this evidence is not direct or personal to the NOI, because it really has nothing to do with them. the globalist agenda concerns individuals who have amassed power for themselves centuries ago and will do anything to keep it, thats all it boils down to. but where the nation comes in is through the so called "esoteric teachings" which have their direct origin from the doctrine of illuminism. so to not loose anybody, i will be direct with my points, and if you want documentation of anything, the invitation is open.
WHAT IS THE DOCTRINE OF ILLUMINISM?
The doctrine of Illuminism is a system of beliefs that originate with the SUPPOSED EVENT IN THE GARDEN OF EVEN, WHERE GOD APPEARS TO HAVE LIED TO ADAM, AND SATAN APPEARS TO HAVE TOLD THE TRUTH (SEE GENESIS CHAPTER 3)
THE doctrine dictates that the so called tree of the "knowledge of good and evil", was forbidden by god to be possessed by man because it would give man the "Knowledge of the Gods". this knowledge would allow man to not just have dominion of the earth and its life but have control over it. therefore, this forbidden knowledge became sought after. according to the doctrine of illuminism, this knowledge was brought down by the angels, led by the most illumined one, "lucifer," and given to Nimrod and the Babylonians. this is its first entrance into the public affairs of man. since then this so called knowledge has appeared under numerous names and annotations. the jews call it the kabalah, and that stems from one of the oldest terms. it is also known as gnosticism, witchcraft, magic, Islam says it was the angels Harut and Marut that brought it down, but only as a test. IN ANY CASE, THIS KNOWLEDGE HAS BEEN USED FOR ONE SOLE PURPOSE BY THE ELITE WHO PROPOGATE IT, AND THAT IS TO FIRST CONVINCE MAN THAT MAN IS GOD, AND THEN CONVINCE HIM THAT A CERTAIN MAN IS GOD.. AGAIN THIS CAN BE VERIFIED BY THE APPARENT OBSESSION MAN HAS ON HIMSELF AND ON WHAT HE CAN DO. THIS IS NOT A TRUTH BROTHAS, THIS IS A LIE! THERE IS A GOD, AND THERE IS NOTHING LIKE UNTO HIM OR THAT CAN BE COMPARED TO HIM. ANYTHING ELSE IS AN ATTEMPT TO PUT THE CREDIT WHERE IT COULDN'T POSSIBLE BELONG. ADAM WEISHAUPT TOOK THE DOCTRINE OF ILLUMINISM AND CONVINCED HIS FOLLOWERS THAT THEY COULD BE GOD. AND GUESS WHAT, RIGHT NOW ON THIS EARTH THOSE WHO SHARE HIS WORLDVIEW AND HAVE PLEDGED ALLIEGENCE TO THE AGENDA TO MAKE THE WORLD VIEW A REALITY, ARE NOW AND HAVE BEEN IN CONTROL FOR A LONG TIME... THEY USED THE NATION TO NUMBER 1 DIVIDE THE BLACK POPULATION IN AMERICA FROM THE UNIVERSAL STRUGGLE AGAINST OPPRESSION THAT WAS HAPPENING AT THAT TIME. NATIONALISM IS A TOOL OF THE ELITE, BECAUSE THE MORE DIVISIONS, THE MORE CHAOS, THE NEED FOR THEM TO IMPLEMENT THE SOLUTION THEY WANTED ANYWAYS. THE SECOND USE THEY HAD FOR THE NATION WAS TO HELP SPREAD THE DOCTRINE OF ILLUMINISM. HOW?
BY USING METAPHORS AND SYMBOLS TO FALSEHOOD INTO THE TRUTH. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE SCIENTIST YAQUB. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF HIS EXISTENCE. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT THE CREATION PROCESS HAPPENED THE WAY THE "THEORY" SAYS IT DOES. THAT KNOWLEDGE WAS NOT KNOWLEDGE AT ALL. 25,000 ELDERS CREATED THE QURAN? THE MOTHERSHIP? BROTHER, ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN BE EASILY PROVEN TO BE FALSE. IM NOT SAYING ELIJAH MUHAMMAD HAD GOOD INTENTIONS OR BAD INTENTIONS. NOR WILL ARGUE THE IMPACT HE HAS MADE ON THE MIND OF THE BLACK MAN, I AM ONE OF THE BENEFACTORS, BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT WHAT HE DID WAS GIVE US THE APTITUDE TO IDENTIFY OURSELVES. BUT CONTINUING TO PROPAGATE THE RHETORIC IS SENSELESS. WHAT IS THE NATION PREPARING FOR RIGHT NOW? CAN ANY OF YOU ANSWER THIS? ARE THEY TELLING YALL THAT WHEN THE NEW WORLD ORDER STARTS, THE NATION WILL GET TO RULE AMERICA? i KNOW THE MINISTER DIDNT BUY THAT... BUT I HEARD HIM EXPLAIN WHAT THE ILLUMINATI WHERE AND TALK ALL ABOUT THAT, THEN HE TURN AROUND AND SAY OBAMA IS THE MESSIAH? HUN? MAYBE YOU MISSED THAT. OR MAYBE YOU KNOW MORE THAN I DO. I WILL SAY THIS THOUGH, AND IM SURE THE ADMINISTRATOR WILL DELETE ME AFTERWORDS. BUT ALL GLOVES OFF. AND MY NATION BUILDING IS FOR REAL, AND ITS FOR MY PEOPLE AND IT AINT NO SELLING OUT. BUT WHAT IS THE NATION GOING TO DO WHEN 1. THEY MANUFACTURE A TERRORIST ATTACK TO PUT US IN MARTIAL LAW OR THEY SINK THE DOLLAR AND BLAME IT ON OBAMA, CAUSING A RIPPLE AFFECT IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY WHERE ANGRY WHITE PEOPLE GO BACK TO THEIR OLD WAYS?? ITS PLANNED TO HAPPEN SO IT WILL HAPPEN, JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY HAVE PLANNED. SO MY QUESTION IS THIS, YALL PUT DOWN THE GUNS ALREADY SO WHO IS GOING TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY???????
If i have said anything to offend anybody, may you forgive me and allah forgive me as well.
Monday, May 2nd 2011 at 8:05PM
Chairman Ali
Lets summarize. Holy scripture separate the jargon from the real by something known as "deeds". These are not things that are SAID. These are the things done. When it comes to getting things done, Messenger Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam gets an A grade. To begin with they opened a school, the first was in Detroit, Michigan and others all across this country. Did YOU DO THAT. There were able to reform the drunk, junky and bumb of America's slums. They developed a non-military army. They cleaned up the black woman and took her off the street and a level where you can be proud of your women, again. Have you did that ? Stores, bakeries, restaurants, trucks, buses and international trade......Have you did that. And now, 80 years later, unlike Marcus Garvey UNIA which has almost disappeared....the NOI is still kicking........struggling.....but yet, ALIVE.

Some muslims have begun to laugh......laugh at those that have doubted Messenger Elijah Muhammad. As an engineer, hokus pokus means nothing to me. It is what you can DO......WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.....These are the things that matter.....not what you talk.....anyone can talk....which is why most black people fail in the sciences at colleges and universities.....they prefer magic....abra cadabra.....voodoo science.......But, this is a new day...and a real God has master of the Tornadoes that is leaving a path of destruction across much of southern United States. Those that believe in the unreal are very surprised when they come face to face with the REAL god. So again......who is laughing now ?
Monday, May 2nd 2011 at 11:14PM
jamal Abraham
All Praise is due to Allah, and Allah alone, not a man who says he was the messenger of him. no real messenger will ever allow himself to be praised! for anything! Besides that, you talk about what he has done for the nation. I agree that his impact has been tremendous. more so outside of the nation than inside. HOWEVER, THAT MEANS NOTHING. LARRY HOOVER DID ALOT FOR THE GD'S, ETC ETC. PROVIDING PEOPLE WITH MATERIAL POSSESSION IS USELESS WHEN YOU HAVE SO ISOLATED THEM FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEIR OWN PEOPLE DONT EVEN KNOW THEM. HOW MANY OF ALL THAT WAS BUILT DOES THE NATION STILL HAVE? I KNOW FARAKHAN HAD TO BUY A LOT BACK. FURTHERMORE, WHAT DO YOU TO THE FACT THAT ELIJAH MUHAMMAD HIMSELF REQUESTED HIS FOLLOWERS TO REVERT TO OTHORDOX ISLAM? ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT? WHAT WORSE, WHAT NATION BUILDING HAS THE NATION DONE??? TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MILLION MAN MARCH FUNDS THAT COULD HAVE DONE WHAT WE STILL BEGGING WHITE PEOPLE TO DO?? TELL ME WHY THE NOI IN NEW ORLEANS IS COOPERATING WITH THE POLICE? i RESPECT YOUR BROTHAS ALOT. I BELIEVE THE NATION HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF TRANSMITTING SELF PRIDE ITS FOLLOWERS. BUT THATS ABOUT IT! TD JAKES CAN SAY HE DONE ALOT FOR HIS FOLLOWERS TO CANT HE? LOOK AT ALL THEY HAVE BUILT? BROTHA I CONTINUE TO GET ATTACKED HOWEVER NO ONE HAS ANSWERED A QUESTION OR TOLD ME WHAT THEY DISAGREE WITH. REMEMBER THERE ARE ALWAYS TO SIDES OF THE STORY AND YOUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE TRUTH, NOT THE SIDE OF WHAT YOU THINK IT IS OR WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD. I DONT KNOW IF ELIJAH MUHAMMAD WAS AWARE OF WHAT HIS NATION WOULD BE USED FOR. I REALLY DONT CARE. IN FACT, I DONT CARE WHAT ORGANIZATION YOU CALL YOURSELF APART OF, WHAT I AM ABOUT AND HAVE BEEN ABOUT IS BUILDING WITH PEOPLE SERIOUS AND DEDICATED ABOUT BUILDING. I HAVE NUMEROUS NOI BROTHAS I BUILD WITH AND WE DONT ARGUE RHETORIC. IF WE DEBATE, ITS SENSIBLE, A LITTLE EDGY MAYBE BUT DEFINITELY NOT OFFENSIVE AND NEVER PERSONAL. SO TAKE LESSONS... MY PROBLEM IS NOT SO MUCH WITH THE MAN AS IT IS WITH THE CONTINUED USE OF THOSE TEACHINGS WHEN WE ARE IN NEW ERA IN TIME IN WHICH PEOPLE MUST RECOGNIZE THAT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PEOPLE ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE AND WORSHIP GOD, AND THOSE WHO BELIEVE AND WORSHIP SOMETHING OTHER THAN GOD. WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON? LET ALLAH WORRY ABOUT ELIJAH MUHAMMAD AND WHAT HIS INTENTIONS WHERE. WE NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT OUR DUTY AND OBLIGATION IS ON THIS EARTH, IF YOU ALL BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE, I HAVENT BEEN KEEPING UP SO IM NOT SURE IF THE NOI HAS ADDED THE FIVE PILLARS TO ITS LIST OF OBLIGATORY TENETS OR NOT SO I DONT KNOW, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THE DIRECTION THE NOI HAS BEEN HEADING IN LATELY MAKES ME REAL SUSPECT OF WHAT THEIR LEADER IS REALLY UP TOO... IT IS OFTEN THE FOLLOWERS WHO FIND OUT LAST WHAT THE REAL NATURE OF THE LEADER WAS.
I WILL CLOSE WITH ANOTHER OBSERVATION. FARD MUHAMMAD LATER REVEALED THAT HE NEVER TOLD ELIJAH HE WAS GOD, AND ACCORDING TO THE LATE WARITH DEAN MUHAMMAD FARD WAS ALIVE AND A SUNNI MUSLIM! BROTHAS, USE THOSE TEACHING TO ELEVATE YOUR ESTEEM TO RECOGNIZE YOU ARE NOT INFERIOR TO ANYONE, AND THEN MOVE ON TO BEING A PART OF THE SOLUTION AND NOT THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS NATIONALISM, RELIGIOUS SECULARISM, IGNORANCE AND THE PROPAGATION OF FALSE DOCTRINES AND LIES AND THE ASSOCIATION OF PARTNERS WITH GOD. THE SOLUTION IS TO SEEK THE TRUTH, UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH, SHARE THE TRUTH, AND LET NOTHING COME BEFORE THAT WHICH CREATED EVERYTHING ELSE.
Tuesday, May 3rd 2011 at 12:05AM
Chairman Ali
@JAMAL AN A GRADE? FOR WHAT EXACTLY? HOW MANY OF THE ESTEEMED LEARNERS WHO STARTED WITH THE NATION ACTUALLY STAYED? IT IS A STEPPING STONE TO CONSCIOUSNESS, JUST LIKE MST OF A AND THE OTHERS. AND AS FAR AS THE MEMBERSHIP, REMEMBER MALCOLM X SWELLED THE MEMEBRSHIP NUMBERS, AND THEY SHRUNK AFTER HIS DEATH. MOST OF WHAT HE BUILT WAS SEIZED DUE TO MIS MANAGEMENT OF FUNDS, AND THE ONLY MILLIONAIRE NOI MEMBER IS FARAKHAN! ALLAH FORGIVE ME, I AINT HOLDING NOTHING BACK!
Tuesday, May 3rd 2011 at 12:10AM
Chairman Ali
@ Irma sista the advent of social media has given birth to more "revolutionaries" than the fight the power song! for real though, there is only one islam... everything else which bares its name does not bare its characteristics so it is falsehood. this is what ISLAM SAYS ISLAM IS: A DEBT OF SUBMISSION OWED BY MAN TO GOD FOR THE ACT OF CREATION. THE NATION OF ISLAM WAS FOUNDED AS A NATIONALIST ORGANIZATION WITH ISLAMIC INFLUENCES, THOUGH ITS MEMBERS HAVE NEVER BEEN REQUIRED TO FULLFILL THE DUTIES MUSLIMS MUST FULFILL SUCH AS PRAYING FIVE TIMES A DAY, FASTING, TAKING THE TESTAMENT OF FAITH, ETC. PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE WHAT FARRAKHAN IS "TEACHING" WITH WHAT ALLAH TEACHES ISLAM IS ACCORDING TO THE QURAN. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW, GO READ IT FOR YOURSELF. IF ANY ONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I HAVE TONES OF USEFUL RESOURCES WHERE YOU CAN RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF.
Tuesday, May 3rd 2011 at 12:19AM
Chairman Ali
A farmer throws out seed onto soil...not all the seeds will grow crop. Do you judge a buchel by one bad apple ? Since when. Messenger Elijah Muhammad sowed seed to produce future leaders among things. This blog is not about Min. Farrakhan...Any slant to him is not by the author of the blog. This blog is about Messenger Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam. The messenger opened a chain of schools. It turns out little Abraham attended one of those schools. My legacy is yet to be told. Sure, there were those that used the divine teachings for self grandisement and corruption...but, that is not the totality of the seeds that were thrown out.

It was wise of the Messenger to open schools. Because it only takes one graduate from one of those schools to carry on the work left by the Master school builder. Farrakhan is not a graduate from one of those schools. But, little Abraham is a graduate. Farrakhan was not born into Islam....but little Abraham was born in Islam. Farrakhan was taught in the same Ministers class as Malcolm X....but not little Abraham. Believers were so busy looking at the major figures surrounding the Messenger when he passed that they forgot that there were graduates of his schools that had went on to college that went on with experience that were being prepared by Allah(GOD) behind the scenes...behind the lamplight.....in the background. Keep in mind that they plan......but Also, God plans......and Allah(God) is the best of planners.
Tuesday, May 3rd 2011 at 10:10AM
jamal Abraham
@ jamal absolutely Akh. I agree with absolutely everything you just brotha, with special attention to the last thing you said. Allah is indeed the best of planners, and I am grateful to him for allowing this conversation to come to this understanding. May Allah Grant little Abraham success in this world and the next. I believe that what we share in common is more substantial then our differences. that applies across the board. We can intelligently debate after collectively applying solutions and seeing what works for us, right now, faced with our own Era of Struggle.
Tuesday, May 3rd 2011 at 3:36PM
Chairman Ali
As-Salaam Alaikum Brothers:

Elijah Muhammad has been gone from us since 1975 and although I was not born until 1981 I see a lot of what he delivered through his books and speeches.

He delivered a message to all that would listen, what was the message? The message was to the black man! What was the message to the black man? The message that if you do what was taught you would unlock the kingdom within yourself!

He taught that he was here to introduce you to a God that is man and that he was here to get us acquainted with God. He taught that he was here to liberate the black man and woman to their rightful place in ruler ship. The Messenger taught that the original man is the Black man, the Maker, the Owner, the Cream of the Planet Earth, God of the Universe. He taught us how to eat to live (instead of living to eat). He taught about the fall of America and it's happening right as we speak!

Quote From Theology of Time - August 20, 1972:

"I will give you ten thousand dollars if you can find in the Bible where it prophesies of Jesus coming as a prophet.
What you read of Jesus in the Bible’s prophesy is myself!"

THERE, I REST MY CASE!!!
Tuesday, May 3rd 2011 at 3:47PM
Siebra Muhammad
To the brother, user name "Chairman Ali" who labeled Elijah Muhammad’s teachings as "shriner aquarian gospel rhetoric", let’s take a look at some articles found in the devil’s magazines which actually praise Elijah Muhammad for his great works and teachings. These can also be found on the back cover of any copy of the Message to the Black Man in America book.

New York Times Magazine wrote:
Alone of all the Negro leaders Elijah Muhammad has a vivid awareness of the vital need of a new birth in any drastic human transformation, and he alone mastered the technique of staging a new identity... It is worth remembering that what Elijah Muhammad is doing to the Negro is, in a sense, what America has done to the immigrant from Europe.

Reader's Digest wrote:
This mild-looking man is.....the most powerful blackman in America.
He offers a new way of life. Muhammad prompts even his severest critics to agree when he says he attacks "traditional reasons the Negro race is weak."

Former Presidential Assistant and Former Harvard Professor, Arthur J. Schlesinger, Jr. in Esquire Magazine wrote:
Muhammad's movement is unique in that it has thrived outside the Christian tradition and the Protestant community. White Americans have brought this on themselves, and the responsibility can't be evaded by attacking the Muslims

The following is an actual proclamation from then Chicago , Illinois Mayor Richard Daley in 1974, recognizing the great work and accomplishments of Elijah Muhammad.

Chicago Mayor Honors Messenger Elijah Muhammad:
"WHEREAS, on the evening of Friday, March 29, 1974, a citizens' committee will hold a testimonial dinner at the Conrad Hotel to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad; and

"WHEREAS, mutual respect and brotherhood are essential for people to live in harmony everywhere; and

"WHEREAS, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad has exhibited strong leadership to provide quality education, to establish prosperous business, to organize recreational activities and to develop good citizenship in the community; and

"WHEREAS, the proceeds from this testimonial dinner will be used to support the construction of a 300 bed hospital on the South Side:

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Richard J. Daley, Mayor of the City of Chicago, do hereby proclaim March 29, 1974 to be HONORABLE ELIJAH MUHAMMAD DAY IN CHICAGO and call upon all citizens to take cognizance of the special events arranged for this time."
Dated this 27th day of March, 1974
Richard J.Daley, Mayor


Tuesday, May 3rd 2011 at 4:08PM
Siebra Muhammad
Sis. Seibra...ASA.....always nice to have you drop in. Thanks for the accounting of the Messenger's works
Tuesday, May 3rd 2011 at 4:19PM
jamal Abraham
wow sista Siebra, Good Attempt, but i actually though the matter was closed. since its not, lets continue?
Did you really just use all of they above praise as proof?? Proof of what sista?? Praise from the devil is praise that requires scrutiny of intent. lets put it another way;
how do you think Mayor Dailey felt about the black population of chicago? if i have to answer that maybe you should do a little searching. since we know this notoriously racist 1 miilion ways to eradicate the black man fred hampton killing jeff ford framer cvl destroy chicagor riots agitator mob flunkie was NO GOOD TO BLACK PEOPLE, HIS PRAISE OF ELIJAH MUHAMMAD MAKES ME MORE SUSPECT OF THE MESSENGER.. this as well goes for every single source you named. but forget about that. you missing the point and ducking the truth. let me be real clear about what my position is to avoid any sideline feedback:
I said that I acknowledge Elijah Muhammad for the role he played in being apart of Facilitating the AWAKENING of the black mind in America. thats what he did and i myself am a benefactor, though not directly. i studied under t he moorish science temple so Noble Drew Ali had more of an impact on my than Elijah Did. but of course we know noble drew ali also had a major impact on another one of hist astute students, Fard Muhammad, Who later went on to i guess "appear?" to Elijah Muhammad as God in the flesh.

in any case, we cannot under estimate or under appreciate the contributions these brothas made, However, TODAY WE ARE FIGHTING OUR STRUGGLE WITH THIS MODERNIZED ENEMY, AND IT IS EVEN HARDER TO DETECT THIS ENEMY NOW AS MUCH AS IT HAS EVER BEEN.. THEREFORE CONTINUING TO USE THE SAME RHETORIC AND SIGNIFYING, ACCOMPLISHES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BUT CONTINUING TO DISTRACT BLACK PEOPLE FROM WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IN THE WORLD TODAY.

THE SITUATION IS ONE UNFAVORABLE TO THE SUSTAINABILITY OF EVERYTHING BUT THE MASSIVE MACHINE THAT CREATED THE CONDITION. I HOPE THAT DIDNT GO TO FAR OVER ANYBODIES HEAD. BUT THEN AGAIN THE NATION HAS ITS EXIST STRATEGY DONT THEY?? JUST LIKE THE CHRISTIANS HAVE THEIR RAPTURE... EVERYBODY THINK THEY WILL BE ABLE TO JUST DISAPPEAR WHEN THE PROVERBIAL "****" HIT THE FAN. AS FOR ME AND MY PEOPLE, FREEDOM OR DEATH IS NOT SLOGAN! i WILL NOT COMMENT ON THIS POST ANYMORE. I ENJOYED THE DISCUSSION WITH YOU ESTEEMED BROTHAS AND SISTAS. IF ANYONE WANTS TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION WITH ME MY GOOGLE NUMBER IS (414) 502-7082, AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE ANY TIME NEXT WEEK
Tuesday, May 3rd 2011 at 5:38PM
Chairman Ali
Hello to all,

Mr. Elijah Muhammad came on the scene in the 30s to set Black Americans free. Am I right or am I wrong? Black Americans joined Elijah's Nation of Islam mainly because they thought Elijah was the one to bring us into our own as a free people. The Nation of Islam cried a slogan, "Nation Time", am I right. Poor Black Americans poured their monies into the programs of the Nation of Islam. What ever happened?

Black Americans sincerely felt that Elijah was the equivalent of Moses for Black Americans. Did Elijah come up short of what was expected of him by Black Americans? I would say Elijah certainly did come up short. Elijah was never as tall as Black Americans thought that he was. So, how should we praise Elijah Muhammad's works today?
Mr. Elijah Muhammad has passed over 35 years now, am I right. My question is did Mr. Elijah accomplish his aim and purpose? The answer is unequivocally no, Mr. Elijah Muhammad did not accomplish his aim and purpose. So, how then should we praise Elijah Muhammad? Mr. Elijah Muhammad did not accomplish half as much as Dr. King accomplished, am I right.

So, what is the big deal about Mr. Elijah Muhammad? Is there anyone to say that I am wrong about my assessment of Mr. Elijah Muhammad? Mr. Elijah Muhammad taught strict morals to his followers, but at the same time he was screwing as much young Black American girls as he could that Elijah fathered a few children, am I right or wrong? So, what exactly are you all praising Elijah Muhammad for, please tell me.

Please bear in mind that I am asking a legitimate question without trying to get you die hard followers of the Elijah upset, okay. Just answer my questions by showing I am wrong or agree with me if I am right.

Tell me what you think.

Wednesday, May 4th 2011 at 7:23AM
Harry Watley
Hello Jamal Abraham,

You address yourself as "little Abraham". Who then is big Abraham? Big Abraham is the Jewish patriarch, Prophet Abraham. You and Prophet Abraham are racially different. So here you go again following behind the Jewish people as well as the Arabian people. You are very confused. Furthermore, Black Americans being descendents of slaves do not want anything little. Everything that Black Americans need has to be big and authentic.

Having an education is hardly a means to say you are the father of a new nation. Black America's situation is divine. Therefore, it will take the intervention of God. When God intervenes in a people's affairs as God intervened in the affairs of the children of Israel the first thing that God did was to anoint a prophet who speaks for God and that God works through, am I right.
When God intervened in the Arabian people's paganism the first thing that God did was to anoint Prophet Mohammed.
Consequentially, we see a pattern of how God works, am I right. Now, the question is, are you Black America's prophet that would lead us out of subjugation in White America. Mr. Elijah Muhammad was not able to accomplish our sovereignty and since you are a follower of Elijah Muhammad how then could you do what he could not do?
If you are not a prophet Black Americans cannot use you because you are not from God. Am I making any sense with you?

One of the qualities of a prophet is that the prophet is a clean vessel. To be a clean vessel our prophet can not be a follower of another people's religion. For example, Moses was not a follower of Pharaoh's gods as Elijah and you are followers of the Arabian religion of Islam. Do you see a lot of contradictions where Elijah and you are concerned?
You are a follower of the Arabian people's religion of Islam. Black Americans do not want the Arabian people's religion of Islam. Black Americans want our own religion and we have our own religion LIFE. Prophets introduces religion to their people as Prophet Mohammed introduced the religion of Islam to the Arabian people, am I right. Likewise, I have introduced the religion of LIFE to Black Americans since I am Black America's genuine prophet that would lead us into sovereignty on a fertile portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. The reasoning our religion is named LIFE is because Black Americans are a mentally dead people that will be raised to LIFE. Mr. Elijah Muhammad never raised Black Americans to life. Instead, he made us followers of the Arabian people's religion of Islam, am I right.

If I am not making any sense you show me where I am wrong, okay.

Tell me what you think.

Wednesday, May 4th 2011 at 7:54AM
Harry Watley
Harry, you speak like a wounded "donkey"....calm yourself down with a "jackass pill" and lets take it slowly. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr reformed no one. His notoriety was from his ability to march and organize Black Americans. He did not convert the wino or prostitute. Nor did he rehabilitate the criminal or bumb. But, he was able to pressure civil rights for Black Americans to be upgraded to better levels of equality, though we never arrived at true EQUALITY.

Messenger Elijah Muhammad on the other hand, as most divine warners and prophets, reformed, taught and provided an example how to run a nation. There were captains, leutinents, and other officers of the Fruit of Islam that had responsibilities of organized and civil nationhood. The Messenger grew a NOI economy from nothing and got millions to accept in deed or in theory until he took us to the door of Freedom and land of our own. In other words, the messenger laid the foundation of the house and left it up to us to construct the walls and roof.

Jews claim Abraham of old to be a Jew. Muslims claim Abraham of old to be a muslim. There is no mandate for a prophet to be of a particular race ....there is one that he be of the same language and nationality of the people whom he is sent.

So your facts are flawed. Little Abraham is of the same religion as patriarch Abraham. We both believe in ONE GOD whose proper name is ALLAH.
Wednesday, May 4th 2011 at 8:16AM
jamal Abraham
It is at this time that some Black Americans are laughing. Why....because what Messenger Elijah Muhammad spoke about is occuring today, before our eyes. Nature's fury is lashing out at America with fires in Texas, Tornadoes in the South and Snow in the Northwest in May. The dollar bill is falling with the growing national debt and black Americans in larger and larger numbers are without work........So, now we laugh...next......Brother, Sister....LETS TALK ABOUT A NEW NATION.
Wednesday, May 4th 2011 at 9:34AM
jamal Abraham
"Jackass pill"...that was funny! Jamal you made my day with that one!
Wednesday, May 4th 2011 at 12:40PM
Siebra Muhammad
LOL...
Thursday, May 5th 2011 at 2:34PM
Siebra Muhammad
@Property of Master Williams thats right Fruit! and Superior Knowledge Demands Submission from Inferior Knowledge which is why I WORSHIP UNDER MY OWN VINE AND FIG TREE which is currently Producing PLENTIFULLY, and you doing what? still selling final call's brother? Holla at me when you ready to BUILD MOVE NETWORK AND GROW for real. and with i will peacefully withdraw from this conversation and may Allah grant you all guidance and protection in this life and the next.
Monday, May 9th 2011 at 9:16AM
Chairman Ali
@Irma....the Nation of Islam is like a heavy duty Truck loaded with valuables but stuck in the mud, unable to move forward. All is needed is the means to pull out....turns out the means is technical.......just what my expertise is all about.
Monday, May 9th 2011 at 6:53PM
jamal Abraham
powell....learn to show respect or you will be blocked
Saturday, June 18th 2011 at 2:03PM
jamal Abraham

you delete this, as disrespect?

Again, littleThinker and noUnderstander

the verse of the chapter you sight here is incomplete without understanding the subject of the chapter, after the great battle of Mohamed(as) 1460+ years ago, this chapter was revealed after a great victory for the Believers of AlQur'aan and the Sunnah

Sûrat Al-Anfâl
(The Spoils of War) VIII

In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

1. They ask you MohamedÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã) about the spoils of battle and war. "The spoils are for Allâah and the Messenger." So fear Allâah and adjust all matters of difference among you, and obey Allâah and His Messenger Mohamed, if you are believers

.........
20. O you who believe! Obey Allaâh and His Messenger, and turn not away from Mohamed while you can hear.

21. Do not be like those who say: "We have heard," but they hear not.

22. The worst of living creatures with Allâah are the deaf and the dumb, who understand nothing.

23. Had Allâah known any good in them, He would have made them listen; and even if He had made them listen, they would have turned away with aversion to the Truth.

24. O you who believe! Answer Allâah and Mohamed when he (Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã) calls you to that which will give you life, and know that Allâah comes in between a person and his heart. And to Allaah you shall all be gathered.


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Saturday, June 18th 2011 at 6:24PM
powell robert
@Siebra, as an out sider who has always given all praise to Minister Farrakhan for his teaching of we should never loose our direct connections to the Mother land...

as you have spoken about the respect and acceptance of the NOI in the past by the out side world...

WHAT HAS HAPPEN TO END SUCH RESPECT AND ACCEPTANCE OVER THE YEARS TO WHAT IT IS NOW?!? (NUP + SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Jake, it looks like we got one more today. Oh well, I am still only interested in living my own life...I do like when I seem to get things straight from the Koran unchanged with every issue.Because I know nothing about any of the endless variations of Islam on this site as more and more nation builders come. Which like every day or twice a day lately.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Jamal, it does seem your messages about getting rid of Minister Farakhan is being heard loud and clear and saying you are correct it is begining to look like at least to me an out sider who always said he was my chosen Black leader. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
CAUSE..."...no bio..."

EFFECT...W-H-O-W...

For me at least it is so exciting to see this useage of the "I" as in "I" did...not have to wait for someone (as in WE) to help me do what I believed needed / needs doing! (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Jamal, will it get better fo rblack people once you replace Minister Farrakhan...

I mean for those who will be foolish enough to not follow you to your nation when you get it. lol (smile)
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