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Jordan's father hit it right on the head, they are going to get "Stand Your Ground" repealed. And how about replace it with an "Increased Penalties For Abuse Of Your Concealed Carry Permit" statute? These two gave such intelligent and thoughtful responses, it made me think how intelligent and thoughtful Jordan was when he told his father he was going to stand his ground.
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 2:40PM
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And Bill O'Reilly can go straight to Hell.
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 2:41PM
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Watched these last night; I'm sick to my stomach!
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 2:46PM
Michelle Diane
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And it shows a reality too few understand or talk about, as both Jordan and his father expressed. Whether in the 60's or 2012, a vast number of the youth of this country get the message of Unity.
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 2:48PM
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Jordan's mother, oh yes she did!
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 3:03PM
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There can only be admiration for these parents, and now they are going to fight against this statute, and I believe they will win!
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 3:06PM
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A grand jury indicted a Florida man for first degree murder on Thursday in the shooting death of an unarmed, black high school student last month after an argument over loud rap music.
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 3:21PM
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Attorney for Jordan Davis’ family says it’s about hate, not race
Trymaine Lee, @trymainelee
3:45 pm on 11/30/2012
The attorney for the family of Jordan Davis, the unarmed black 17-year-old shot and killed last Friday by a white gun collector in Florida, said the case isn’t about race as many have asserted. Rather, he said it’s about love, hate, and hard lessons learned from another high profile and racially charged killing.
In a rare interview since Davis’ killing on Nov. 23, John Phillips, a personal injury and wrongful death attorney in Jacksonville, Fla., talked with MSNBC.com about the teen’s tragic death, the somewhat cheerless pas de deux between lawyer and the media in such cases, and the comparisons Davis’ killing have drawn to the case of Trayvon Martin.
“This isn’t a race case. It isn’t about black and white, it’s about love and hate,” Phillips said. “The main thing right now is trying not to make it too, not to foster any hate. That’s a lot of what came out of Trayvon.”
Davis’ killing, and his killer, Michael Dunn’s claims of self-defense, have resurrected the not-so-deeply buried bones of the Martin case, in which George Zimmerman claims he also killed Martin in self-defense.
Both cases seemed to have evolved into mandates on race relations and the state’s controversial Stand Your Ground laws, which give people wide discretion in the use of lethal force.
But the cases also speak to the way loved ones, concerned citizens, and oddly, even lawyers have used social media to push their respective agendas.
Martin’s family was ubiquitous on the cable news and in newspapers across the country in the aftermath of the shooting. Zimmerman’s defense set up a website to “counter misinformation,” Facebook and Twitter pages, and used the web for fundraising.
But the media was also used to attack Martin’s character and reveal Zimmerman’s violent past. A white supremacy group even hacked Martin’s personal Twitter account.
Phillips said he’s moving cautiously and is wary of overexposing Davis’ family.
“Otherwise you’re just exposing your soul every time,” Phillips said in a telephone interview from his Jacksonville office. “The media starts off like a little fish that has to eat the bigger fish, that has to eat the bigger fish. At some point that fish might get so big it turns and bites you.”
“With Trayvon it took 17 or 18 days before it took off as a big national story,” he added. “This one became a story within two or three days and that just spontaneously interrupts the family’s grieving and mourning when you have to be worried about a press conference.”
Phillips said he respects Benjamin Crump, the attorney representing Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, Martin’s mother and father, but said he learned a tough lesson in watching how the media and supporters of Zimmerman pounced on the family so publicly.
“They gave us a dry run of what could happen here. It gave the family a basis of understanding of how you aren’t a public figure, how you have not in any way wanted to become a public, but how you can become roped and pulled into it whether through social media or any other media,” Phillips said.
Crump said he has also been in contact with the Davis family and that he is open to helping in any way that he can. He said that while there are similarities in the cases, including sketchy assertions of self-defense, the two cases are worlds apart in the way they’ve played out in the media in the aftermath of the killings.
“It’s a little different what he’s got,” Crump said, referring to Phillips. “He’s got an arrest. With Trayvon Martin they weren’t going to arrest Zimmerman. Martin’s parents had to be present in the media to say that authorities are not going to arrest the killer of their unarmed child. They were forced to do interviews to get simple justice. [Jordan’s family] got an arrest without having to do that.”
Michael Dunn, 45, allegedly shot and killed Davis after a verbal altercation over loud music playing from the SUV that Davis and three of his friends were sitting in at a Jacksonville gas station, according to police.
There was some sort of verbal exchange, the police said, then Dunn took out a handgun and fired several shots at the teens. Two bullets struck Davis. Dunn fled the scene and was later arrested 175 miles south in Satellite Beach, where he was charged with second-degree murder and attempted murder.
He has pleaded not guilty and his lawyer has told reporters that Dunn feared for his life, believed the teens were armed, perhaps gang members, and that he reacted “as any responsible gun owner” would have reacted.
Despite Phillips plea to avoid the race trap, the case is rife with racial overtones.
Robin Lemonidis, Dunn’s attorney, told reporters that Dunn saw a shotgun barrel poke from behind a cracked window of the teens’ vehicle.
“And it’s–all he sees are heavily tinted windows, which are up and the back windows which are down, and the car has at least four black men in it,” Lemonidis said. “And he doesn’t know how old anybody is, he doesn’t know anything, but he knows a shotgun when he sees one.”
But Phillips, who is white and a friend of the Davis family, said that the killing is less about racial animus and more about hate and one person killing another without provocation.
“To me it’s kind of the state of the world now, the criminal defense attorney is spewing hate before the young man is even in the ground,” Phillips said.
He called Davis a “good kid” who was home schooled by his mother in Georgia before moving in recent years to live with his father, Ron Davis, in Jacksonville.
The elder Davis retired from Delta airlines after 20 years, Phillips said.
“Jordan was loved by both parents. It is both a beautiful story and a tragedy,” he added. “I honestly believe if this doesn’t shake up this country nothing will. If this doesn’t say, why, why are we so in to instant gratification… why are we so callous that we react without an action. It’s just awful.”
Phillips said the young man’s death has fogged over the joy of holiday planning. The office holiday party, DJ and all, is scheduled for today. And the Toys for Tots drive that has filled his office with a sea of bright colors and soft, fuzzy things, seem less warm and fuzzy given the case.
On Friday, Phillips’ added that after 12 years of personal injury and wrongful death cases, ” this is perhaps the most wrongful death I’ve ever worked on.”
http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/11/30/attorney-fo...
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 3:33PM
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The murder of Derrion Albert occurred on September 24, 2009, near Christian Fenger Academy High School, on Chicago's South Side.
Reports and video indicate that Albert was caught in a brawl between two factions of students at Christian Fenger Academy High school, from two neighborhoods, Altgeld Gardens and The Ville.[1][2] His death occurred after he was brutally beaten by several boys with pieces of a railroad tie.[3][4] Police initially arrested four individuals, Silvonus Shannon, Eric Carson, Eugene Riley, and Eugene Bailey, who were charged with first-degree murder.[5] Charges were later dropped against Bailey after further investigations.[6]
The amateur video footage of the beating, obtained by Chicago television station WFLD, was widely broadcast in both traditional and online media.[7] Largely resulting from the widespread circulation of this video, the story attracted much national attention within the United States, leading President Barack Obama to send U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary of Education Arne Duncan to Chicago to discuss youth violence with Mayor Richard M. Daley.[8] Secretary Duncan was also interviewed by Anderson Cooper on the cable news channel CNN regarding violence in Chicago.[9]
I try to remember the names of all these murdered young people. Did we hear anything about the results of those "discussions"?
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 3:58PM
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Champions of Change: Youth Violence Prevention
Twelve leaders are recognized as Champions of Change for their work to prevent youth violence within their communities as part of the National Forum on Youth Violence Prevention. Launched at President Obama's direction in 2010, the National Forum on Youth Violence Prevention is a network of communities and federal agencies working together to share information and build local capacity to prevent and reduce youth violence and keep our kids safe.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/champions/youth-...
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 4:15PM
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You did a link! Thank you my sister.
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 5:31PM
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I have it bookmarked.
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 5:33PM
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And this is why I so respect Buddhism as a philosophy of peace.
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 5:55PM
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Now to the technical side. Have you got the copy-and-paste down?
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 5:57PM
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Sure, I'll send you an email.
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 7:16PM
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Which program was that?
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 8:06PM
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STEVE, NDBUDDISM BEGAN A MOVEMENT THREE YEARS AGO TAHT HS ALL OF THE YOUTH OF OUR ORGANIZATION IN THE 192 COUNTRIES WE ARE IN TO HAVE DEDICATED THEIR MOVEMENT AGAINST VIOLENCE...
www.sgi-usa.org
(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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G-U-N RIGHTS IS THE ENEMY SO PEASE LETS GET TO HOW GUNS KNOW NO SKIN COLOR, SOCAIAL STATUS, CREED, s*xUAL PREFERENCES OR ARE NOT GOING TO GO WHERE WE POINT THE GUNS SO AT LEAST LETS START REQUIRING GUN LESSONS LIKE WE DO DRIVING LESSONS FOR THOSE KILLER WEAPON CARS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NUP!!!)
WE DID RISE ABOVE GIVING PEOPLEONLY 6 MONTHS FOR KILLING SOMEONE WITH THEIR CARS UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ACHOL AND MORE THEN 6 MONTS FOR KILLING A CHILD AND LIFE FOR KILLING AN ADULT...
I HAVE BEEN THERE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN AND I KNOW WE CAN DO IT WITH GUNS ALSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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ACTUALLY STEVE, TAH TIS THE LINK FOR ANYONE WANTING ANY INFO ABOUR OUR NDBUDDHISM, I PUT IT UP EVERY TIME I DO A BLOG TRYING TO EXPLAIN ABOUT MY SPIRITUAL PHILOSOPHY...THAT IS SO SIMPLE IT IS SCARY TO MOST...WE DO TEND TO RESIST WE HAVE FREEDOMS TO HAVE RESPECT ANDLOVE FOR SELF AND POWERS IT IS NOT A S-I-N OR BEING SELFISH WHEN WE DO. LOL!!! (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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AND, AGAIN I WILL SAY WHAT I JUST SAID ON MYOWN BLOG ON THE SCHOOL SHOOTING OF TODAY...
RIGHT NOW OUR PRESIDENT IS SPEAKING ON THE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AND ALL OF THE THINGS HE HAS CALLED FOR TO SHOW RESPECT FOR THESE YOUTH...
IF THIS GUNMAN IS NO A WHITE CHRISTIAN THEN OUR PRESIDENT WILL HAVE TO SUFFER FOR HIS ACTIONS TO NO END...AFTER ALL THIS ISA MERICA IS IT NOT AND THIS IS THENORM MENTALITY IS IT NOT???????????!!!!!!!!?? (NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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...OOPS, MORE CHILDREN IN GRADE SCHOOL ARE BEING KILLED IN CHINA, BUT NOT BY GUNS BUT BY KNIVES AS JUSTIFICATIONS FOR USING GUNS IN AMERICA TOKILL OUR CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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N-O-P-E...WANT TO DO THE LESSON AGAIN? (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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STEVEWHAT THIS FATHER SAID IS JUST PLAIN OLD EVERY DAY COMMON SENSE...NOW WHO OF OUR LAW MAKERS USE PLAIN OLD EVERY DAY COMMON SENSE...BUT, IN THE END WE TEH VOTER TEND TO WAKE UP AN REALIZE AND BEGIN T ACK LIKE WE ARE THE LAW MAKERS...
ANOTHER PERSON TO HIT THE NAIL ON TEH HEAND WAS TIS YOUTH'S MOTHER WHEN SHE SAID, "WE MUST PROTECT OUR CHILDREN'...EACH OF THESE ARE OUR CHILDREN, PERIOD!!!!!
AND, STEVE, BO IS IN HELL RIGH NOW SINCE HE CAN'T EVEN GET HIS LACKIES TO STILL AGREE WITH HIM ON HIS OWN PROGRAM LIKE HE USE TO BE ABLE TO DO. LOL!!
(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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STEVE, REV. AL JUST ENDED HIS PROGRAM WITH THE SAME WORDS AS THE MOTHER OF J. DAVIS...HE SAID WHEN WILL WE BEGIN TO TAKE THIS AS A WAKE UP CALL TO STOP ROBBING OUR CHILDREN LIKE THIS OF THEIR LIVES AND A CHANCE TO HELP LIVE IN OUR NATION...HE SAID THESE WERE WORDS HE USED RECENTLY AS THE OVERSEEER OF A 4 YEAR OLD CHILDS FUNERAL DUE TO A BULLET...
SO SAD, SO SAD, (NUP/SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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@STEVE, THNAKS SO MUCH FOR POSTING THESE...STEVE, IT IS JUST TOO BAD WE CAN'T GET THE CONNECTIONS OF THE ANGER OF LAWRANCE OVER TIS JUSTIFICATION OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE CONCEL GUN CARRY PERMITS AS A WAY TO PROTECT THE 2ND AMMENDMENT...BUT STEVE GET TIS TAHT I JUST SAID ON DAVID'S BLOG ON THE SCHOOL SHOOTING TIS MORNING...
THIS 'GUN' KILLING IS BEING USTIFIED AS....MORE CHILDREN IN GRADE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN KILLED TAHN THIS AND THEY WEREKILLED BY KNIVES....STEVE, STEVE, STEVE...OUR CHILDREN GETTING KILLED ON MASS IN SCHOOL ARE D-E-A-D , P-E-R-I-O-D(N.....................U..............P!!!)
AND, TIS IS WHY I CHANT (PRAY) WE BEGIN TO PAY ATTENTION AND POST BLOGS LIKE TIS ONE AS TEACING MOMENTS NEEDED BY THE PUBLIC AT LARGE AS TEACHING MOMENTS....AGAIN THANKS STEVE...YOU MAY HAVE JUST SAVED A LIFE...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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