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I had an idea Robert. I think it would be better if the race question be made optional. So that you and I could legally not answer, while others would still have the freedom to do so.
Thursday, July 4th 2013 at 5:57PM
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The first threshold we must reach is 150 signatures within 30 days from the date of creation of the petition.
Thursday, July 4th 2013 at 6:01PM
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Others Sign
After you publish the petition, it’s up to you to promote it and get others to sign. You’ll get an automatic email once your petition is published that you can forward to get started. Remember you have just 30 days to get 100,000 signatures in order to get a response from the White House. And it’s up to you to get to 150 signatures in order for your petition to be publicly searchable on the We the People tool on WhiteHouse.gov.
The White House Reviews and Responds
Once the petition reaches the required threshold, it will be put in a queue to be reviewed by the White House. Others can still sign the petition while it is awaiting a response from the White House. When the White House responds, everyone who has signed the petition will get email from the White House to let you know that we’ve reviewed and responded to the petition.
Not a trivial undertaking Robert. Besides a carefully worded and persuasive argument, we will need a solid action plan to get the required 100,000 signatures within 60 days.
Thursday, July 4th 2013 at 6:34PM
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How extensive are your contacts?
Thursday, July 4th 2013 at 6:35PM
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Obama shifts Census oversight, triggering angry protest by Republicans
By Carrie Dann February 6, 2009
President Obama has decided to bring the U.S. Census Bureau under White House jurisdiction, a move that incensed House Republicans, who fired off a blistering letter to him Thursday, calling it "outrageous and unprecedented" and a "blatant partisan and political maneuver."
The move would shift the chain of command with the bureau and the Commerce Department, where the bureau currently resides. It comes after the Congressional Black Caucus, National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials and other groups expressed displeasure with Obama's nominee for Commerce secretary, Republican Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire.
Gregg, the groups said this week, opposed efforts to secure emergency funding for the 2000 Census, which they asserted exposes a potential lack of commitment to ensuring that hard-to-reach minority populations are properly accounted for in the 2010 census.
A White House spokesman confirmed Thursday that Obama plans to work closely with the bureau, which will remain within the Commerce Department.
"From the first days of the transition the census has been a priority for the president, and a process he wanted to re-evaluate," the spokesman said in a prepared statement.
"There is historic precedent for the director of the census, who works for the Commerce secretary and the president, to work closely with White House senior management -- given the number of decisions that will have to be put before the president," he said. "We plan to return to that model in this administration."
House Republicans reacted quickly. House Oversight and Government Reform ranking member Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Oversight and Government Reform Census Subcommittee ranking member Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., seized on speculation that the move would place the yet-unnamed Census Bureau director under the watchful eye of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, instead of leaving Gregg in charge.
They suggested the move could improperly influence legislative redistricting, which is shaped by Census counts.
"By circumventing the secretary of Commerce's oversight of the Census Bureau and handing it directly to a political operative such as Mr. Emanuel, you are severely jeopardizing the fairness and accuracy of the 2010 Census," Issa and McHenry wrote Obama.
Details of the day-to-day relationship between the White House and the Census Bureau seem hazy.
Aides speculated Thursday that the bureau's budget and public-affairs functions may be routed through OMB, an arrangement that would assuage the fears expressed by advocates concerned that the Census director's public statements and congressional testimony would be subject to censorship by less-than-supportive leadership at Commerce.
Sources on both sides of the issue said black lawmakers and others interested in securing more funding for the 2010 Census had been hoping for assurances of support from Obama as soon as they learned about Gregg's possible selection to Commerce post.
One Democratic aide close to the matter called the administration's decision a direct response to the grievances of minority groups upset with Gregg's appointment.
"People started yelling at them," said the aide, who added that the details of how the White House's interactions with the Census director remain woefully undefined.
"Their answer was 'OK, fine, [Gregg] won't be in charge,'" the aide said. "It wasn't a plan. It was a reaction."
The administration's idea to shift jurisdiction over the Census Bureau was not entirely new.
In September, congressional Democrats, led by Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., proposed legislation to make the bureau an independent federal agency. Such agencies report directly to the president, as the Federal Emergency Management Agency did before it became part of the Homeland Security Department.
A Census Bureau spokeswoman declined to comment on any organizational changes until a director is in place.
http://www.govexec.com/oversight/2009/02/o...
Thursday, July 4th 2013 at 6:46PM
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At least I didn't violate any BIA rules. As far as I know.
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 3:00AM
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viralDNAist!
why do you comment me, first.......?????
1. I do not believe in the paganChristian racistIgnorance of 'blackWhite', ? 'minority'---CLASSIFICATIONS
2. This is 7/5/2013
---------WHO IS A MINORITY?
3. American has had 500 years of slaverAmericana1492-1864(1964)
---------paganChristian, racistIgnorance of the 'blackWhite', ? 'minority'-simpletonISM
4. Intelligent American Citizens can surely wait a few more ELECTIONS to amend and IMPLEMENT
---------We the people, for the people, by the people
WE DO NOT NEED this voting rights nonSENSE --- 7/2013
........................I decline to agree with stevieWonder.....
sweetIrma, I was with my dearest MIISRAEL blog, agreeing with Universal Democratic Principles
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 11:47AM
powell robert
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Yes Robert, I commented you first.
Surely you read my comments and can see I'm talking about writing a new petition, not about signing the one I posted as an example of one that has been filed under 3 categories as allowed by the White House: Civil Rights and Liberties, Human Rights, and Urban Policy.
I guess you think the Census Race Question is okay as it stands?
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 3:04PM
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I showed you that the President exercised his authority of direct oversight of the Census Bureau prior to the 2010 census. So the race question on the 2010 census was under his authority, correct?
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 3:18PM
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"From the first days of the transition the census has been a priority for the president, and a process he wanted to re-evaluate," the spokesman said in a prepared statement.
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 3:26PM
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Robert sometimes reminds me of Harry with his skillful evasion of THE SUBJECT.
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 3:54PM
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According to Title 13, Section 221 (Census, Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers) of the United States Code, persons who fail or refuse to respond to the mail-back census form, or refuse to respond to a follow-up census taker can be fined up to $100. Persons who knowingly provide false information to the census can be fined up to $500.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/censusandsta...
So to clarify the subject Robert, I would like the race question to add an option to the effect of "I prefer not to answer". Would you like to see this change Robert? And who do you suppose has the authority to make such a change, Barack Obama or Irma Robinson?
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 4:12PM
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Or put it another way. How can America avoid being racially oriented when our Government requires the Citizens to identify their Race?
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 4:25PM
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The same Government that with it's program, the Human Genome Project, proved that there is no scientific way to define race.
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 4:28PM
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(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or
willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any
other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce
or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the
Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his
knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in
connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I,
II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to
the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or
farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not
more than $100.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/X...
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 4:37PM
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Anyway Robert, I will post my draft when I have it completed.
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 4:42PM
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Here's the basic proposal. Make the following change in wording (this is consistent with college applications where these questions are optional).
Replace:
NOTE: Please answer BOTH Question 8 about Hispanic origin and Question 9 about race. For this census, Hispanic origins are not races.
With:
NOTE: Question 8 about Hispanic origin and Question 9 about race are optional. For this census, Hispanic origins are not races.
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 5:25PM
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The Census Bureau collects racial data in accordance with guidelines provided by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (OMB), and these data are based on self-identification.
The racial categories included in the census questionnaire generally reflect a social definition of race recognized in this country and not an attempt to define race biologically, anthropologically, or genetically.
http://www.census.gov/population/race/
So the argument will be:
Race is self-identification.
Only social definitions for race exist.
Race is not defined biologically, anthropologically, or genetically.
There are citizens who do not have a self-identification of race, because there is no biological, anthropological, or genetic definition of race.
These citizens, not having a self-identification of race cannot, therefore, answer questions of race.
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 6:20PM
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WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Make optional, questions regarding race and ethnicity on the United States Census form.
The Census Bureau has made the following statements:
"The Census Bureau collects racial data in accordance with guidelines provided by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (OMB), and these data are based on self-identification."
"The racial categories included in the census questionnaire generally reflect a social definition of race recognized in this country and not an attempt to define race biologically, anthropologically, or genetically."
We citizens who do not self-identify by race, because there is no biological, anthropological, or genetic definition of race, cannot reasonably be expected to supply such a self-identification.
We therefore propose that the current wording on the 2010 Census form:
"NOTE: Please answer BOTH Question 8 about Hispanic origin and Question 9 about race. For this census, Hispanic origins are not races."
Be replaced with:
"NOTE: Question 8 about Hispanic origin and Question 9 about race are optional. For this census, Hispanic origins are not races."
Or that a change of similar effect be made.
Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 7:11PM
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I need 100,00 signatures Robert. Will you help?
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 7:16PM
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I will change the last sentence to: Or that a change of equal effect be made.
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 7:49PM
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My second draft.
WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Make optional, questions regarding race and ethnicity on the United States Census form.
The Census Bureau has made the following statements:
"The Census Bureau collects racial data in accordance with guidelines provided by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (OMB), and these data are based on self-identification."
"The racial categories included in the census questionnaire generally reflect a social definition of race recognized in this country and not an attempt to define race biologically, anthropologically, or genetically."
We citizens who do not self-identify by race, because there is no biological, anthropological, or genetic definition of race, cannot reasonably be expected to supply such a self-identification.
We citizens who believe that social definitions of race may serve to promote racism, should not be compelled to answer questions of race and ethnicity.
We therefore propose that the current wording on the 2010 Census form:
"NOTE: Please answer BOTH Question 8 about Hispanic origin and Question 9 about race. For this census, Hispanic origins are not races."
Be replaced with:
"NOTE: Question 8 about Hispanic origin and Question 9 about race are optional. For this census, Hispanic origins are not races."
Or that a change of equal effect be made.
Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties
Friday, July 5th 2013 at 9:07PM
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ON SUBJECT--
answer your questions of me first, since you used my Name....
I guess you think the Census Race Question is okay as it stands?
---- NO, NO and Americans for 210 years used racistIgnorance as Identification of Americanism
----i do not accept this colorWorshipping identification of the Family of Adaam(as)
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Sûrat AnNisâ’
(The Women) IV
In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. O mankind! Be dutiful to Raabee, Who created you from a single person, Adaam, and from him He created his wife Hawwâ (Eve), and from them both He created many men and women; and fear Allâah through Whom you have mutual rights, and do not cut the relations of Family. Surely, Allâah is Ever an All-Watcher over you.
148. Allâah does not like that evil should be uttered in public except by he who has been wronged. Allâah is Ever All-Hearer, All-Knower.
149. Whether Mankind disclose by good words of thanks a good deed, done to you in the form of a favour by someone, or conceal it, or pardon an evil, Allâah is Ever Oft-Pardoning, All-Powerful.
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ALL HUMANS for 1400+ Years have been given Human Rights by the Creator of Adaam(as)
So the race question on the 2010 census was under his authority, correct?
NO, it has been wrong since slaverAmericana 1492-1864(1964)
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How can America avoid being racially oriented when our Government requires the Citizens to identify their Race?
-------in a few years the Majority of Equal Americans will change that racistPAST
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I need 100,00 signatures Robert. Will you help?
A big NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Saturday, July 6th 2013 at 12:28PM
powell robert
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No problem Robert, I have an action plan.
Saturday, July 6th 2013 at 5:55PM
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@STEVE, GET OVER IT AS ROBERT IS GOING TO ANSWER TO EVERY NAME BUT HIS...HE SPEAKS FOR EVERYONE BUT ROBERT...
THEREFORE I REPEAT, 'STEVE GET OVER IT'LOL!!!(SMILE)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++WE ALL KNOW AMERICA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN MAJORITY BUT A MUSLIM MAJAORITY NATION WITH MUSLIMS OUT NUMBERING ALL OTHERS BECAUSE THERE IS NOT DIVISNIONS IN THEIR FAITH LIKE CHRISTIANITY...BAPTIST, METHODIST, FIRST BAPTIST, SALVATION ARMY(AND HIS BETTER HALF'S RELIGION I FORGET ITS NAME)...JUS TONE NOI LED BY ROBERT NOT FARRAKHAN...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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I WONDEER IF HARRY BELIEVE IT IS AMERICAN JUSTICE OR HIS GOD'S JUSTICE OF MOSES FAULT THAT HE HARRY LIKE MOSES WILL NEVER END UP LEADING HIS PEOPLE TO THE PROMISE LAND / NATION? HARRY LIKE ROBERT ARE PRICELESS IN TH EDO NOT FOLLOW MY EXAMPLE OF SUCCESS ON THIS SITE'S TEACHING MOMENTS.LOL!!! (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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@STEVE, ROBERT IS NOT IGNORING YOUR BLOG...HE IS OVER ON MIIRAEL'S EGYPT BLOG HUMBLEING HIM SELF TO HIS BETTER HALF THAT I AM LYING ON HIM BE SAYINGHE BELIEVE MORSI WAS WRONGLY THROWN OUT BECAUSE HE WAS BUSY PROMOTING ISLAM...I KNOW HE HAS CONVERTED TO THE RELIGION OF HIS BETTER HALF SO HOW DARE I LIE ON HIM ABOUT ISLAM SHOULD BE BEING TAUGHT IN EGYPT WHERE HIS BETTER HALF COULD SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ROTFLMAO)(SMILE)...
YEP AS SOON AS HE GETS HIMSELF OUT OF THE DOG HOUSE HE WILL BE HERE TO SET YOU STRAIGHT AFTER EH SETSME STRAIGHT AND GET ME TO ADMIT I LIED ON HIM...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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LOL!!!(SMILE)...
"I" AM SURE 'ACTION" IS AN EBONIC'S WORD UNABLE TO BE UNDERSTOOD BY 'STANDARD ENGLISH SPEAKERS...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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F-A-C-T-S ARE ANOTHER ISSUE NOT ALLOWED BY THE CONSERVATIVES. example,...
WHITES, LATINO POPULATIONS EQUAL IN STATE...STAFF AND NEWS WIRE REPORTS...TIS IS ON THE 7-2-13 FRONT PAGE OF MY LOCAL PAPER THE APPEAL-DEMOCRAT (SMILE)...
SACRAMENTO - STATE DEMOGRAPHERS ESTIMATES THAT WHITES AND LATINOS ARE NOW AN EQUAL SHARE OF CALIFORNIA'S POPULATION, WITH LATINOS POISED TO BECOME A PLURALITY BY THE END OF TH EYEAR...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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