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This is why I will not be renewing my NRA membership. Until the passage of the Florida law in 2005 it was common sense to retreat if possible, rather than take a human life. What good citizen would prefer shooting a person vs. retreating if possible?
Saturday, July 20th 2013 at 12:14PM
Steve Williams
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I called them before when they put Glen Beck up as a spokesman. They'll be hearing from me again on this issue. This is not the same NRA I first joined when I was in my early 20s.
Saturday, July 20th 2013 at 12:18PM
Steve Williams
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Stand Your Ground Laws again have ONE purpose allow an olde, slow, American population to defend their lives and property from The Lawless americans.
steveyWonder --- its LAW in 33 STATES----AND if voted for I WOULD VOTE for it in Minnesota..........
you and the other stevieWonder will have to search in the dark for places to Sing.............
Saturday, July 20th 2013 at 10:15PM
powell robert
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I'll see if I can find them Irma.
Sunday, July 21st 2013 at 5:16AM
Steve Williams
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Robert,
I've had concealed carry permits in the past, and it made me more, not less cautious about confrontation. Stand your ground came into effect in 2005. But true self defense has always been allowed. That is until now, because stand your ground will backfire and more, it gives one more argument for gun control.
Sunday, July 21st 2013 at 5:21AM
Steve Williams
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Bottom line, the NRA's defense/promotion of stand your ground is detrimental to my interests as a gun owner.
Sunday, July 21st 2013 at 5:26AM
Steve Williams
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You know Irma, I'm still not clear on the instructions to the jury. Were they instructed to consider stand your ground, or just the opposite, specifically not to consider it?
Sunday, July 21st 2013 at 12:37PM
Steve Williams
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Of course my Father had olde WW2-Korean machine guns, rifles, shot guns and revolvers.......
But they were in the basement or attic or closet
When I saw the Panthers holding, and walking down the street....I fell in love with that 2nd Amendment right..
get over it---offSUBJECT sweetIRMA
---- I cannot respond to all your stuff, cannot READ it
-- 350 Million Americans have guns and NO ONE will EVER take them...unless they kill a lot of them.....
--- had Trayvon Benjamin Martin had a gun "he probably would be alive today"
Sunday, July 21st 2013 at 1:17PM
powell robert
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@ Robert. Liberty will be dipped in blood if there is ever a mandate that law-abiding citizens must relinquish their weapons. I as well love that 2nd Amendment as a gun owner.
Sunday, July 21st 2013 at 2:23PM
Earl Brown
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EXAMPLE GERALDO REVIER SAYS TRAVON DESERVED WHAT HE GOT FOR THE WAY HE WAS DERSSED IN THAT HOODY HE DISAPROVE OF...HAVE YOUR CHILDDREN EVER BEEN BULLIED/ REJECTED BY THEIR PEERS FOR THE WAY HE SRESS AND LET US ALL KNOW JUST HOW POEASING IT WS FOR YOU FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH THIS JUST AS YOU ARE SO PLEASED AT THOSE MUSLIMS BEING KILLED, AND MURDERED IN THEIR MOTHERS BODIES ON A DAILY, MONTHLY AND YEARLY AND HUNDREDS OF YEARLY PROCESS...LETS CELEBRTE ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY COME AND BURNDOWN YOU PLASDE OF WORSHIP AS THERE IS NOT A CRIME IN DOING SO AS TE H CHRISTIANS ARE ONLY DANDING THEIR GROUNDS AS HTEY BURN THE KORAN IN TIS VERY STATE OF FL. AFTER ALL' FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS LEGAL IN AMERICA. AND FOR THEM THIS IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS IT NOT, ROBERT?!?(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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@ROBERT THAT IS IF YOU MEAN LAWLESS AS IN YOUR FAITHIS LAWLWSS IN A CHRISTIAN NATION AND HELL IN COME CASED ISN'T IT ILLEGAL BY YOUR CONSERVATIVES LAW MAKERS IN DC LIKE MCCAIN IN EGYPT LETS SAY DON'T HTE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD PRACTICE THE MUSLIM FAITH, ROBERT OR IN IRAQ. IRAN, SAUDIA ARABIA, TURKEY...OH WELL I AM SURE YOU AND I DON'T SEE EYE TO I ON THE 'ENGLISH LANGUAGE'S DEFINITION OF 'LAWLESS AMERICANS" NOW DO WE BECAUSE THE MUSLIM FAITH IS ILLEGAL IN FL. OR SOMEONE WOULD HAVE GONE TO JAIL FOR BURNING TOSE KORANS AS A JOB DISCRIPTION AS ANY EMPLOYER WITHOUT A LISCENS IS CONSIDDERED AS BEING ILLEGAL OR LAWLESS IN AMERICA...BUT S I ALREADY SAID YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT DIFINITION THEN AMERICAN FEDERAL LAW YOURS MUST BE STATE LAW IN YOUR STATE BUT NOT IN FL.LOOOOOOOL. ...
EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!! (S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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@STEVE, THERE WERE TOW BEAUTIFUL DOCUMENTARYS ON CHANELL 13 KOVR IN SACRAMENTO TODAY...ONE WAS " WE HAVE A DREAM' ABOUT A BLACK FEMALE WHO AS A BLACK FEMALE CHILD SAID SHE WANTED TO BE A COMMERCIAL ARTIST WHEN SHE GREW UP...AT THE TIME SHE WAS ADVISED TO NOT GO THERE AS SHE OWULD BE DISAPOINTED...
THE OTHER IS ALES SCOTT: A STAND FOR HOPE...A BOUT A 4 YEAR OLD CANCER PATIENT THAT STARTED THE ALES SCOTT LEMON AIDE STANDS THAT HAS NOW BEEN TAKEN UP BY THE RICH AND FAMOUS HELPING TO RAISE MONEY FOR CILDREN WITH CANCER AS SHE DID...SHE DIED OF CANCER AT 8 YEARS OLD. BUT THE CHILDREN NOW CONTINUES IN HER NAME HER PROJECT...IT WAS ON I BELIEVE FROM 1 OT 2 PM TODAY...IT WOULD BE NICE VIDEOS FOR THE SITE...(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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@ROBERT TOO BAD YOU CONSERVATIVES CAN'T MAKE UP YOUR MINDS ON WHAT STAND YOUR GROUND IS IN THE FIRST PLACE, EXAMPLE, DR. KING DID NOT DIE A NATURAL DEATH NOR DID MACLOM X OR TOSE CHILDREN IN NEWTOWN NOT THOSE MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS IN THE MIDDLE-EAST FOR TEN YEARS AND COUNTING...THESE PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE SOMEONE FELT DOING SO WOULD PLEASE THEIR CREATOR...GET OVE IT AND JUST ADMIT TOSE MUSLIMS IN HE MIDDLE-EAST SHOULD BE NO MORE ACCEPTED THAT YOU AE OF THE PEOPLE WH OFOLLOW THE KORAN AS YOU DO AND YOU SAY THEYARE NOT WANTED TO EXIST BECAUSE THEY AER NOT PLEASDING TO YOUR CREATOR!!! ...BE HAPPY AS YOU YOUR SEFL AGREE THINGS ARE JUST FINE SO LEAVE IT AS IT IS.(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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BROTHER RABBIT THIS POST HAS MADE MY DAY...THE NRA IS THE BABY OF COLOR OF CHANGE LIKE YOU AND SO MANY OTHERS THAT NAME GLEEN BECK CREATES A BAD TASTE IN THEIR MOUTHS....
THE NRA ARE STREET FIGHTERS AND SO IS COC...BUT COC IS DIVERSE AND ARE NOT ONE TRACKED MINDED...AS IN IF ONE IS NOT WILLING TO EVOLVE WITH THEIR ENVIORNMENT THEY WILL BECOME EXTINCT. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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IT IS TOO BAD WE TEND TO NOT ALLOW TRUTH FACTS INTO OUR DAILY LIVES...
STAND YOU GROUND IS A LAW THE SAYS , "KILL SOME ONE SAY YOU WERE STANDING YOUR GROUND AND YOU WILL NOT EVEN BE ARRESTED/ INVESTIGATED AT ALL ...THIS CASE IS A STAND OUT BECAUSE IT IS THE FIRST TO GO TO TRIAL...
OOPS, AGAIN WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT TO BE BRAIN DEAD VIA BRAIN WASHING...TIS WA NOT A STAND YOUR GROUND TRIAL IT WAS A SELF DEFENSE TRAIL...
MORE FACTS...IF THIS HAD BEE A STAND YOUR GORUND TRAIL THE FBI AND DOJ WOULD NOT NOW BE ABLE TO GO AT IT / CONTINUE THEIR ORIGINAL INVESTIGATION ON...
WHY NO ARREST IN THE KILLING OF TRAVON FROM THE BEGINNING. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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@STEVE THE MORE I WATCH AGAIN THAT INTERVIEW WITH THAT JUROR WH O TOUGHT SHE WAS PROMOTING HER BOOK SALES...THE MORE I BELIEVE SHE NEEDS TO RREMEMBER THE, BECAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY AS IT CAN COME BACK TO BE USED AGAINST YOU...
TIS WOMAN IS LEAVING HER SELF WIDE OPEN TO BE CHARGED WIT H JURY TAMPERING...SHE SAYS ONE OF THE MAIN TINGS TH EJUDGE TOLD THE JURY TO IGNORE SHE PRESSED ON IN HEPING TO GET THE JURY'S VOTES...THISIS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF A COURT ORDER AND CAN BE TAKEN SERIOUS AS WELL AS VIOLATING TRAVON'S RIGHTS TO A FAIR TRIAL BY HIS PEERS AND A ZILLION OTHER CHARGES THAT CAN BE THROWN AFTER YOU IN LEGAL OR CIVIL LAW SUIT S... (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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steve this is why those high priced aTTORNYS ARE BEGGING TO GET IN ON THE CIVIL RIGHT CASE...I BELIEVE IT WAS RACHEL MADDOW THAT POINTED OUT THE JUDGE VERBAL AND ON CAMERA INSTRUCTIONS TO THE JURY TO JUDGE ON 'SAND YOUR GROUND' AND IT IS IN WRITTEN INSTRUCTIONS THAT THEY JUDGE ON IT AS WELL...AND REMEMBER THE CLAIMS OF NOT RACE INVOLVED WHEN THE DEFENSE SAID ZIMMERMAN AND EVEN HAD THE LADY ON THE SAND SAYING HOW HE FORMED HIS WATCH BECAUSE BLACK MALES HAD ROBBER THIS WHITE WOMAN...DUH...BUT IF IT WORKS USE IT JUST BE PREPARED WHEN IS COMES BACK AND BITE YOU IN TH EASS...
NOT TOMENTION WHY THEY MUST ONLY BEGIN WITH TRAVON BEATING HIS HEAD ON THE CEMENT BECAUSE THIS WAY THEY CAN AVOID SAYING ZIMMERMAN WAS ON HIS WAY TO SHO AT ARGET UNTIL HE SAY THIS BLACK YOUTH, SUSPCETED ROBBER IN A NEIGHBOHOOD HE DID NOT BELONG...
ANY ONE REMEMBER THE WHITE ONLY, BLACK ONLY DAYS IN AMERICA AND WHAT HAPPENED IF BLACKS WERE FOUND 'OUT OF THERI PLACE"?...(NUP)
SO SURE IF YOU BEGIN AT THE CEMENT BEATING PART AND LEAVE OUT THE REST INCLUDING ZIMMERMAN SAYING TRAVON WAS RUNNING FROM HIM THEN YOU HAVE NOT CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS OF TRAVON'S RIGHTS IN THIS ALONG WITH GOING AGAINST OUR PRESIDENT FOR TALKING ABOUTHIS EXPERIENCES...I WONDER WHY WHEN JOHN MCCAIN WAS NOT BORN OF AMERICAN SOIL AND OBAMA WAS WHY IS MCCAIN SEEN A LEGAL AND OBAMA IS NOT??? AGAIN BEGINING AT THE CEMENT BASHINGS AND NOT ZIMMERMAN'S REASONS FOR FORMING HIS WATCH AND TAKING A VOW NOT TO BE ARMED NOR TO FOLLOW ANYONE...OH AND TH BIGGY...IT IS ILLEGAL FOR A POLICEMAN TO DO WHAT ZIMMERMAN DID TO TRAVON FROM START TO THE BULLET IN HIS HEART!!!!!!!!! IS WHAT THE JUSTICE FOR TRAVON DAY WAS ALL ABOUT. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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BVBOE...JUSTICE MUST BE EQUAL ACROSS THE BOARD SINCE FEDERAL TRUMPS STATE...IT IS ILLEAL T OKILL CHILDREN IN SANDY HOOK AND IN FL. AND N.Y. AND CA.
JIM CROW SAYS , SEPRATE IS EQUAL AND STATE TRUMPS FEDERAL..WE SHOULD NOT SEE TODAY AS THE 1S TYEAR SINCE THAT ARM BABY IN THE THEATER IN COLO WAS FILLED WITH AK47 BULLETS SHOULD GO FREE AS MENTAL EITHER BUT SEEN AS A VIOLENT, TERRORIST ACT!!!(NUP/SMILE)...DAMNDE TH EGOV. OF FL. CALLING FOR A DAY OF PRAYER TO SAVE HIS OWN AS AND FORGET ABOUT THAT ARM BABY'S DEATH ONE YEAR ABO TODAY...THESE AER ALL OF OUR CHILDREN JUST AS THEY ARE ALL GOD'S CHILDREN OR AT LEAST THER ARE TO US 'ATHEIST' (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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"JESUS WAS TRAVON 2000 YEARS AGO ...DR KING WAS TRAVON...J.F.K. WAS TRAVON...TOSE THAT DIED IN TAHT THEARER ONE YEAR AGO TODAY WERE TRAVON. EVER RELIGIOUS SERMON TODAY THAT SAID , S-I-N' WAS TRAVON MARTIN TODAY...EVERY WORD THAT SAID "I", "WE" "THEM", "THEY", "THOSE PEOPLE" , "THAT KIND" TODAY AND ALL OF NEXT WEEK UNTIL NEXT WEEKEND'S RALLIES WILL BE ... TRAVON MARTIN ...
(SMILE)
(S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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