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FOR THE RECORD MOSES never existed in my book but for the sake of dialog lets see who can come up with the right answer ,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Friday, December 20th 2013 at 8:48PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Hello David,
You asked the question, “FOR THE RECORD MOSES never existed in my book but for the sake of dialog lets see who can come up with the right answer ,,,,,,,,,,,,,”
Such a stupid statement to make that the Jewish Moses did not exist and since you are not a Jewish person you have no credibility to make such a statement.
What stands out about this stupid statement is that you made it clear that it is your personal opinion when you said, “….in my book….”
What you are doing is scrambling your personal feelings (in my book) with four thousand years of facts to say such a stupid thing.
Of course, Moses had to exist since Moses was responsible for instituting the ritual Passover that the Jewish people in the State of Israel is still practicing today the same way that Moses instituted it 4000 years ago. What lie are you going to tell to cover over the ritual Passover or are you going to say the Passover don’t exist either?
David, you are an uneducated man and that is why your reasoning is irrational. You are a hindrance to the progress of Black Americans and you are a Black American your self! It seems like you have curse on you!
I don’t want to dialogue on your stupid personal feelings (in my book). Instead, I want the dialogue to be backed-up my facts and you have no facts to honestly say that Moses did not exist.
Friday, December 20th 2013 at 10:20PM
Harry Watley
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FOR THE READERS i want to lay the foundation ,,the bible and only the bible is where you will find the story of Moses or is it
The story of the infant Moses being set adrift in a basket bears remarkable similarities to an old Babylonian myth about a great King called Sargon who was discovered as a baby in a basket in a river. hum lets look ,,,,
Between 600 and 300 BCE, Jewish scribes in Jerusalem set out to record all the old tales of their people, handed down from generation to generation. What if the scribes had wanted to add a bit of spice to their tales to make them more interesting? Could they have used the myth of Sargon and made up the tale of Moses? It's certainly possible as we know the Jews were captured by the Babylonians in 587 BCE and held in exile in Babylon (modern Iraq) for some time. They could have picked up the Sargon legend there.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 1:15AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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The basket case is a plagiarism from the Babylonian legend of Sargon; correct
The rest of Exodus is mostly from Egyptian tales; the burning bush which burns and burns represents knowledge from Ra. The God you can't see until he has passed is the Sun (Ra), the flight from Egypt is the Hyksos expulsion etc.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 1:20AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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who was this Moses >>> ??? Moses was a Hebrew,raised in Egypt,you must contend with the fact that in the framework of the story Moses' literary education was purely Egyptian "He was learned in the ways of the Egyptians'/black.. therefore the only written language he could have received anything in would have been... Egyptian/black. Hence the 'commandments' he 'gave' would have come directly from the admonitions of the netert Ma'et, ie the moral code of ancient Egypt.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 1:28AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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My favorite story in the Bible was about Moses because of our history in slavery. My faith was that whatever God did in the past he could do again.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 1:45AM
Helen Lofton
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how does the Exodus COMPARE to other stores ???? .......the whole Exodus story, never happened. It's a distortion of the story of the Hyksos people and their actions during the intermediate period of the Egyptian dynasties.the Hyksos expulsion etc.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 1:48AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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lets look at that ,,,,,,
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 1:49AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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But first i want to make it clear the exodus from Egypt, presented as historical fact. In truth this story is neither historical nor factual.
After hundreds of years of research by people who really wanted to prove this story true, it is completely clear that this story could not have possibly happened. There is no evidence Jews were never enslaved in Egypt. There are no records, no archaeological evidence. There is a remarkable lack of signs that any large number of people traipsed through the desert for 40 years. There is no fire remains or trash.
Now that we have the ability to study genetics, we are getting an even better picture of the history of the people now living around Israel. They simply started out as the same people with the same ancestors.
But this story, from the slavery in Egypt to the Killing of the firstborn to the parting of the Red Sea to the 40 years wandering in the desert is all just a myth.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 1:55AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Hello David,
You said this, “OUT SIDE of the bible what is the historical record that proves Moses ever exited ? OUT SIDE of the bible what is the historical record that proves Moses ever exited ?”
Well, I am not willing to just give the Bible. If I come up with something else you will ask to give that up and if I give that up and come up with more evidence of Moses’ existence you will ask to give that up. So, what I see from the jump is some of your dishonest tricks you are trying to employ to get from under my squeeze. So, no I am not giving up the Bible.
You said this, “There is no evidence Jews were never enslaved in Egypt.”
Sure, there are lots of evidences. Let’s start with the ritual Passover that happened the night of the next day the Children of Israel left that the Jewish people still practices today the same way it went down 4000 years ago. How did the new generation get to re-enact the Passover the same way if it wasn’t passed down?
Lastly, you said this, “But this story, from the slavery in Egypt to the Killing of the firstborn to the parting of the Red Sea to the 40 years wandering in the desert is all just a myth.”
Well, it is always easy for some one to criticize another when you haven’t walked a mile in their shoes.
Moses existed because of the ritual Passover which had nothing to do with Hyksos.
You don’t know how to interpret evidence.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 2:46AM
Harry Watley
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the Hyksos expulsion im sure you ask what is this ??
Hyksos
From Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos#Origin...
The Hyksos first appeared in Egypt c.1800 BC, during the Eleventh Dynasty, and began their climb to power in the Thirteenth Dynasty, coming out of the second intermediate period in control of Avaris and the Delta. By the Fifteenth Dynasty, they ruled Lower Egypt, and at the end of the Seventeenth Dynasty, they were expelled (c. 1560 BC).
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 3:05AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Although most Hyksos names seem Semitic, the Hyksos also included Hurrians, who, while speaking an isolated language, were under the rule and influence of Indo-Europeans.[
Europeans
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 3:09AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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In recent years the idea of a simple Hyksos migration, with little or no violence, has gained support.[23] According to this theory, the Egyptian rulers of 13th Dynasty were preoccupied with domestic famine and plague, and they were too weak to stop the new migrants from entering and settling in Egypt. Even before the migration, Amenemhat III carried out extensive building works and mining, and Gae Callender notes that "the large intake of Asiatics, which seems to have occurred partly in order to subsidize the extensive building work, may have encouraged the so-called Hyksos to settle in the Delta, thus leading eventually to the collapse of native Egyptian rule."[24]
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 3:10AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Hello David,
You said this, “the Hyksos expulsion im sure you ask what is this ??”
The Hyksos is irrelevant because they are talking about Moses and the Jewish people.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 3:17AM
Harry Watley
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Harry while your picking and choosing ,,,pick on this for a while
The story of the infant Moses being set adrift in a basket bears remarkable similarities to an old Babylonian myth about a great King called Sargon who was discovered as a baby in a basket in a river. hum lets look ,,,,
Between 600 and 300 BCE, Jewish scribes in Jerusalem set out to record all the old tales of their people, handed down from generation to generation. What if the scribes had wanted to add a bit of spice to their tales to make them more interesting? Could they have used the myth of Sargon and made up the tale of Moses? It's certainly possible as we know the Jews were captured by the Babylonians in 587 BCE and held in exile in Babylon (modern Iraq) for some time. They could have picked up the Sargon legend there.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 3:24AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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SEE IF YOU CAN DIGEST THIS TO HARRY ???
OR YOU JUST WANT TO PASS UP THE HISTORICAL RECORDS AND BELIEVE What Harry has to
say with out a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out ''NO REAL DATA TO PROVE NOTHING
,,,you choose Harry FOR yourself ,,im sticking to the records so I dont end up like you
,,,trying to prove something for 10 years and got nothing to show for it ! not a damn thing !
and you trying to build credibility on me that is a battle you will never win ,,one your not
smart enough to find the evidence to support your clam
your history speaks for your future 10 years is a long time to waste saying the something
over and over writing and rewriting the same thing only to end up like you started
no followers not one person believing in what you got to say ,,not one !
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 3:35AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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HARRY can you answer the question ???who was this Moses >>> ??? Moses was a Hebrew,raised in Egypt,you must contend with the fact that in the framework of the story Moses' literary education was purely Egyptian "He was learned in the ways of the Egyptians'/black.. therefore the only written language he could have received anything in would have been... Egyptian/black. Hence the 'commandments' he 'gave' would have come directly from the admonitions of the netert Ma'et, ie the moral code of ancient Egypt.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 3:36AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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hurry up Harry ,,,
Harry did you know In his famous book, Moses and monotheism, Sigmund Freud concluded that monotheism was not a Jewish but an Egyptian invention, descending from the cult of the Egyptian sun god Aten. Moreover, upon applying his psychoanalysis to the myths/stories of the Hebrew bible, Freud not only argued that Moses was an Egyptian priest but he was also perplexed by how the whole story of Moses/Exodus, according to the oedipal pattern of analysis, was inverted and didn’t make sense the way it had been told. In other words the Hebrew myths/stories didn’t seem original.
Had he lived longer, delved deeper into the mythology of the ancient Near East, Freud would have reached the same startling conclusion about the origin of the Hebrew bible stories, as he did monotheism.
What Judaism actually added to the world’s religious thinking is something totally different and, at the same time, inherently harmful. Through their tribal and somehow shallow collective mentality, the Hebrews had planted the root of religious dogmatism and fanaticism when they allowed for the absurd idea of God’s chosen people to flourish and permeate the religious thinking from then on.
Unfortunately that religious extremism passed on to Christianity, which was supposed to act as a counterbalance to Judaism’s tribal vulgarity, until it reached its worst case in Islam.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 3:42AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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hARRY THIS IS REAL historical data ,,,the records man ,,,,what you got what are you bring to the table to refute these facts ,,,your gibbers is not going to work ,,you got to bring the facts only ,,,,
where are the facts ,,,,,,show me the facts or ,,,STFU !
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 3:46AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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IM going to open the eyes of the dead and raise the dead minds with these next few comments ,,,get ready get ready get ready !!
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 7:29AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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deut ,,34 ;5-6 the death of Moses ,,read it talks about Moses died in Moab RIGHT, AGAINST BETHPEOR..but no man knows the sepulshre unto this date ,,they dont know where the body is ,,,,,because Moses never existed ,there is not one caractor in the bible where you can show me there grave site because the bible is a mith ,,from David to Jesus its all a lie its all a made up story ! loke the easter bunny and xmas its all made up !
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 7:45AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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deut ,,34 ;5-6 the death of Moses ,,read it talks about Moses died in Moab RIGHT, AGAINST BETHPEOR..but no man knows the sepulshre unto this date ,,they dont know where the body is ,,,,,because Moses never existed ,there is not one caractor in the bible where you can show me there grave site because the bible is a story stolen from Egypt let me show you more !
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 7:47AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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All that i am showing you is back be scholarship and historical records this is what i have studied not no damn copy and paste check for yourself every word is based on facts not this bull**** floating around bur REAL TALK YOU CAN TEACH YOU KIDS !
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 8:20AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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I can show you grave sites of kings of Africans dated back 9,000 10.000 15.000 years
http://www.historvius.com/ancient-egyptian...
http://www.ancientegypt.co.uk/
but you cant show me one grave site of one person in the bible ! and it is dated back only 4.000 6.000 years back and not one,,, now what does that tell you ,,,where the hell is Moses ,the bunny rabbit man Harry's chief reason to beleive in the Easter bunny ,,??
Harry believes more in the white jews then his own black African people but he wants somebody to trust in him to be a prophet from GOD If anyone had a smiget of a thought Harry was from GOD he would have a following bigger then any pastor because black people are some true worshipers of GOD ,,,everyone Harry has talked to for the last 10 years knows HARRY IS FULL OF **** !
WHERE is MOSES ill tell you where he is at ,I can show you his grave site
tomb of THUTMOSIS III
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmose_III
THIS IS the real Moses they the bible tried to copy
He is Thutmose III (sometimes read as Thutmosis or Tuthmosis III, Thothmes in older history works, and meaning Thoth is born) was the sixth Pharaoh of the Eighteenth Dynasty. During the first twenty-two years of Thutmose's reign he was co-regent with his stepmother, Hatshepsut, who was named the pharaoh. While he is shown first on surviving monuments, both were assigned the usual royal names and insignia and neither is given any obvious seniority over the other.[3] He served as the head of her armies.
After her death and his later rise to pharaoh of the kingdom, he created the largest empire Egypt had ever seen; no fewer than seventeen campaigns were conducted, and he conquered from Niya in North Syria to the Fourth Cataract of the Nile in Nubia.
this is the real Moses THE AFRICAN MOSES !
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 8:32AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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this Moses is a black man a African !
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 8:36AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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The ancient Egyptians believed that it was important to record and communicate information about religion and government. Thus, they invented written scripts that could be used to record this information.
The most famous of all ancient Egyptian scripts is hieroglyphic. However, throughout three thousand years of ancient Egyptian civilisation, at least three other scripts were used for different purposes. Using these scripts, scribes were able to preserve the beliefs, history and ideas of ancient Egypt in temple and tomb walls and on papyrus scrolls.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 8:39AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free however some people need to be enslaved because that is the only way they can fiction,,,,
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 8:59AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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no Jews before the 6th century Ad can be found Jews are on the late ship !
prove me wrong !
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 9:03AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Jews are only about 1100 years old ,the Jews have fooled the world into believing something that is not true /truth is the Jews dont know where they come from .they dont know their true origin they made up a history and the world believe them ,so Harry your not the only bad egg in the book ,,not only did the Jews make up a history but the LIE they made up shows them as GODS chosen and blessed people above all the other races !
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 9:25AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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David and all others,
The people that Moses came to save are Abrahams' seed, also known as God's chosen people. According to theologians and biblical scholars, Moses authored five books: Genesis, Exodus, Deuteronomy, Leviticus, and Numbers. We do find early in Genesis 15:13-14, it reads:
Verse 13:"And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them..."
Verse 14 "And also that Nation whom they shall serve, will I judge said God..."
Now we have the prophecy of the people Moses is to save, for it is known that he goes to save the slave children from a strange land.
"Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt." (Exodus 11:40-41)
Is it conceivable that we are the actual chosen people of God and the recipients of a prophesied Moses, after serving under a prophesied Pharaoh (wicked government)? We know that Pharaoh had the slave children worshipping his concept of God. We know further that Moses was from the slave people. And after meeting with God, Moses changed the religion of the slave people from Pharaoh's religion back to the religion of their fathers. Under Moses, the children of Israel went from believing in Pharaoh's God back to believing in their own God. Did this happen with Black people in America? Yes!
African Americans do not speak their ancestral language; it was systematically taken away during slavery. We do not practice our ancestral culture, it too was destroyed during our tenure as slaves. We were not allowed to worship in our ancestral religion. We were forced to serve America and America's God without freedom of choice. Our ancestor's worked for free, and received the worst treatment ever placed on a human family, under this system of chattel slavery in America. By now it should at least be conceivable that we do match closely the description of that people prophesied in the scriptures.
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 4:12PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Hello Siebra,
Don’t complicate things because you see things complicated. The question was asked who Moses came to save.
You said this, “The people that Moses came to save are Abrahams' seed,”
Moses came to save the Children of Israel since the Children of Israel produced him and God anointed Moses, period!
Then you going to suggest that because of the close similarities of the Children of Israel and Black Americans it is conceivable that Black Americans are the people prophesied in the scriptures.
The plight of the Children of Israel and the plight of Black Americans are two separate and distinguish event, period! The Children of Israel and Black Americans are two racially different people. Just because of the close similarities we must one confuse one for the other. The Exodus of the Children of Israel happened and the Exodus of us Black Americans will happen in my life-time as well.
In addition, since Black Americans are a new race of people and that is because White people bred themselves with their slaves for 300 years and made a new race of people who are Black Americans we never had an ancestral culture to practice or a language to speak. Our original language is the King’s English since White made us we speak the language White people speak and that is not big-deal.
Since we are a new race of people with our own first genuine Prophet Harry everything we embrace shall and must be new to us and the world.
For example, the religion of Islam is not new and it belongs to the Arabian people Siebra. Our religion LIFE is new to us and the world. Prophet Harry is new to us and the world. We don’t want anything that is not new, period.
When we come into our own country that too will be new to us and the world and that will happen before I pass-away.
Siebra, you are doing from a different angle what the so-called Hebrew Israelites are doing and that is stealing the birth-rights of the Jewish people and saying you are them. You need to stop it and soon!
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 6:16PM
Harry Watley
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David,
You said this, “Jews are only about 1100 years old”
How can the Jews be 1100 years old when the Passover is 4000 years old? We know that 2000 years ago the Jewish Jesus when to Jerusalem to celebrate the Passover and 2000 years is still more than the 1100 years you say the Jews been around.
You would make a terrible lawyer!
David do you really think that you are smarter than I am?
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 6:24PM
Harry Watley
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back to DELETING the TRUTH, little bay bay boi
you deleted
Musa(as) WAS the son of pharaoh..................
Musa(as) WAS made by the Creator of Adaam(as) a Prophet
Musa(as) WAS sent LIKE all the Prophets of the Creator of Adaam(as) to ALL MANKIND......to believe in Monotheism............
and 1100 years ago------? are you that IGNORANT............
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 9:48PM
powell robert
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siebra ,that is all good but these people never exited they are made up,,,,, the bible is plagiarized book a good book that has fooled many ,,,''i sent you a link i want you to ck out'''
all ancient Egyptian scripts is hieroglyphic. However, throughout three thousand years of ancient Egyptian civilisation, at least three other scripts were used for different purposes. Using these scripts, scribes were able to preserve the beliefs, history and ideas of ancient Egypt in temple and tomb walls and on papyrus scrolls.
where is the history of the bible where are the tombs of the dead in the bible if you took the bible off the table and open the historical records there is no history of Jesus,david,,,,Moses,Sampson ,,,no grave sites nothing !@!
lets weigh in on it a lil deeper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7b8UWfi8m...
Saturday, December 21st 2013 at 10:50PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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SEE HARRY your IQ has showed up again ,,dummy ,,remember I am not like you or robert ,WHEN
I MAKE A CLAM YOU CAN BEST BELEIVE THERE IS DATA TO SUPPORT WHAT IM SAYING !!!
IT WOULD BE LIKE SAYING IM THE BLACK PROPHET CALLED BY GOD AND I TALK TO GOD EVERYDAY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS BUT I DONT OG 1 GOT DAMN FOLLOWER
WOULDENT YOU WONDER WHO WAS THIS GOD I WAS TALKING TO
WOULDENT YOU WANT SOME FACTS INSTEAD OF ME JAWJACKING FOR 10 YEARS AND END UP
LOOKING LIKE A DAMN FOOL ! RIGHT
Sunday, December 22nd 2013 at 12:35AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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There is a complete lack of available physical evidence that a population of Israelites Hebrews,Jews ,hell anybody ever wandered the Sinai peninsula (let alone Mt Sinai), or was enslaved by the Egyptians, or that Moses ever existed.Harry if you got some real proof please bring it to share with all of us If you believe in this, you’ll believe in God without a shred of evidence. This, therefore, is what I need to address.In my search for ultimate truth, I delved into the mysteries of Judaism. I too, had come to the conclusion that, in truth, Judaism and Jews are simply ideas. If you look closely, there is no foundation to them. But I have also learned that everything else that we hold dear to be true is too, simply ideas. Most will never be able to come to this for it negates even the sense of individuality for who we take ourselves to be is founded upon an idea, a thought, we will never give in to the thought that the bible and all other books are just storys fairy tales faith based religion ,,,faith based ,,just believe ,,and you will receive ,,,
False Identification is the root of all of our miseries, not just the Jews,Christians ,Muslims ,etc etc We think that we are this or that, something or somebody...but these are also just ideas. The ultimate truth is so simple; it is nothing more than being in one's natural, original state. It is a great wonder that to teach such a simple truth a number of religions should be necessary, and so many disputes should go on between them as to which is the God-ordained teaching. What a pity! Because people want something elaborate and mysterious, so many religions have come into existence. Only those who are mature can understand the matter in its naked simplicity. Because people love mystery and not the truth, religions cater to them,,,,
Sunday, December 22nd 2013 at 1:31AM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Hello Robert,
You said this, “Musa(as) WAS the son of pharaoh.................. “
You are wrong! The names of Moses’ biological parents are written in the Bible.
You don’t know what you are talking about!
Sunday, December 22nd 2013 at 7:22AM
Harry Watley
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Hello David,
You said this, “IT WOULD BE LIKE SAYING IM THE BLACK PROPHET CALLED BY GOD AND I TALK TO GOD EVERYDAY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS BUT I DONT OG 1 GOT DAMN FOLLOWER”
My authenticity to be a prophet comes directly from God and not from followers. It was God that anointed me and not followers.
What makes me our prophet is because I said something that was grand because no one else have ever said it in the history of mankind and that was prophets are racially different. Making this grand revelation sets me aside from all other iconic leaders of the past and the present am I right.
Then you said this, “……was enslaved by the Egyptians, or that Moses ever existed.Harry if you got some real proof please bring it to share with all of us If you believe in this, you’ll believe in God without a shred of evidence.”
The proof that I offered was the ritual Passover that Moses instituted the night before the day break of the next day the Children of Israel left Egypt and this Passover ritual is still practice today the same way it went down 4000 years ago.
The Passover celebration was passed down through the Jewish generations for 4000 years and still counting.
We Black Americans have such a celebration awaiting us and our celebration is called resurrection day. The Jews have theirs and the Muslims have Ramadan and we Black Americans have resurrection day. So, our stars has lined up facing God as did the Jewish people and the Arabian people stars did to receive a visit from God.
Sunday, December 22nd 2013 at 7:47AM
Harry Watley
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SUBJECT kids,
Musa(as)
who raised Musa(as)-------PHAROAH
who was to be PHAROAH at the death of his FATHER ---- Musa(as)
Sunday, December 22nd 2013 at 9:58AM
powell robert
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Harry WHAT IM ABOUT TO SAY PROVES YOU FULL OF **** ! OR AGAIN YOU CAN PROVE IM WRONG ,,,,,YOU HAVE YET TO DO SO ,,,,,
the Bible contains more than 400 contradictions, not to mention that it reflects the Bronze-age morality of the time.
Well, here comes science to kick religion in the nuts once again: the Jews were never slaves in Egypt!
- It turns out that there is no archaeological evidence of any kind relating to a separate settlement of religious people in Egypt during that time. There is also no evidence of any kind relating to a mass migration across the Sinai Peninsula.
If things did indeed happen as it says in the Bible (and the Torah), there would have to be some archaeological evidence. But there is none.
Further, there is no evidence of any kind that Egypt even used slaves, and certainly no evidence that they enslaved an entire nation. The workers that built the pyramids are known to be well payed Egyptians. The pyramids weren’t even built in the right time period, being 800 to 2,000 years older than the supposed “Exodus”.
The same techniques used to track the migration patterns of ancient humans by examining DNA also show that there was absolutely no procreation between ancient Egyptians and ancient Israelites during the time that the story was supposed to have taken place. Not to put too fine a point on it, but if an entire nation was enslaved for hundreds of years, surely there would have been some inter-breeding.
In short, this story never happened.
And this isn’t even “news” – of course, the scientific community is across the subject, but even conservative Jewish sources admit that there is no evidence (but they still have faith! And some stuff about metaphors and such…)
To drive the point home, I’m even providing sources for you (although, a quick Google search could give you dozens more…)
Basically, everyone in the know admits that what is written in the Bible and Torah simply didn’t happen, not at all, not even the non-supernatural, core plot…
So next time you hear someone tell you the Bible is infallible (or anything about Passover whatsoever) send them one of these links:
- See more at: http://www.religiouscriticism.com/bible/th...
Sunday, December 22nd 2013 at 6:23PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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miseducated 'negroes' don't change their miseducated spots so I'm sure that even if Moses himself walKed up to you and told you it never happened... you'd tell him he was crazy, stupid and ignorant. That's how crazy, stupid, ignorant people do THERE IS YOUR PROOF HARRY !!
NOW DONT REPEAT YOU 10 YEAR OLD LINES BRING SOMETHING NEW TO THE TABLE W IF YOUR TRYING TO PROVE ME WRONG ,,,OR JUST BOW DOWN TO THE FACTS !
Sunday, December 22nd 2013 at 6:32PM
DAVID JOHNSON
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Hello David,
You made a few claims about the Bible am I right. You said this, “…..your using the the bible ,the whitemans religion as the foundation for your clam to be a prophet for black people……”
You are absolutely wrong. But, I am giving you a break by not forcing you to show how I am using the Bible as my foundation to clam I am Black America’ first genuine prophet. So, I will explain how I use the Bible and the Quran to show I am Black America’s first prophet. What I do is put side by side the first thing that God does when God comes into the affairs of a people and you see that the same thing has happened already with us Black Americans.
The first thing that God always did was to anoint the people a prophet. When God visited the Children of Israel God anointed Prophet Moses am I right. When God visited the Arabians the first thing God did was to anoint Prophet Mohammed. The first thing that God did when we were visited was to anoint me Prophet Harry. Notice that all of us racially matches our own race. So, all of what I’ve been teaching you can see is true.
My credential that prove that I am our prophet happened when I said that prophets are racially different. That is something no one in the history of mankind ever said. So, that puts me a cut above every one else am I right.
So, I use the Bible and Quran as comparative guides that you all will know that I am on the level.
Then you said this, “the Bible contains more than 400 contradictions,…..”
Please don’t concern your self with their contradictions. You know that the Bible is a written testimony of the Jewish people to the world how God helped them in their times of trouble with other people.
We know the Bible is their experience they had with God and who are we to contradict them when we were not the ones to have experience with God their experience they had with God.
I don’t why you are so obsess with their Bible since we are going to write our own spiritual BOOK since God visited us and anointed us Prophet Harry.
About the EXODUS, we know that the Exodus happened because the ritual Passover that was instituted then is still practiced today the same way it went down 4000 years ago. So, when you talk about there is no archeological evidence we don’t need any since we have the ritual Passover that is still practice today the same way it went down 4000 years ago.
You keep saying the same thing and I have to keep giving you the same reasons and evidence why it is true.
Sunday, December 22nd 2013 at 7:22PM
Harry Watley
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SUBJECT bay bayMammy
and the Question from yourSON was:
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QUESTION FOR HARRY AND ANYONE ELSE ??
WHO DID MOSES COME TO SAVE ??
Posted By: David Johnson
Friday, December 20th 2013 at 8:47PM
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I ANSWERED the QUESTION----the author bay bays...... around another 'research'.....
LIKE---------"the Bronze-age morality"
WHAT IS ---------"the Bronze-age morality"?
sweetIRMA when someone pastes and CANNOT or REFUSES to READ their pasting THEY DO NOT HAVE anyIDEA what they are writing
------that is called NONSENSE........proudFamily momma
Monday, December 23rd 2013 at 12:03PM
powell robert
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F-A-C-T...PROPHET HARRY...
MOST OF THE 'PHARAOHS OF YOU ACCETPED 'FALSE' TEACHINGS AND PREACHINGS ARE NOT EGYPTIANS AT ALL BUT ARE ACTUALLY GREEKS PUT THERE BY ALAXANDER THE GREAT WHO WAS A KNOWN HOMO!!!...
EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!LOL!!!(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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P-R-O-O-F-S AS OFFERED RIGHT HERE ON BAY, BAY'S SON'S BLOG...
BOTH HARRY AND ROBERT ARE HERE COMPLAINGING...
1. HARRY'S IS OVER HE HAS BLOCKED MY SON...
2. ROBERT'S COM'PLAINT IS HARRY HAS BLOCKED MY SON SO HE CAN'T OFFER ANY MORE OF HIS 'FACT' BACKED COMMENTS BUT HAS NOT BLOCKED HIM. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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...MY BEAUTIFUL ALMOST PERFECT DAUGHTER, THEN YOU NEXT GOING BEHIND THE WOOD SHED FOR PICKING ON O-U-R PROPHET HARRY LIKE THIS. (OTFLMAO)(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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THANKS DAVID FOR THE WED SITE , I SHALL GO TO IT SOON...
I WATCHA LOT ON H2 WHERE SCIENTIST GO TO DIGGINGS TO FIND PROOFS OF WHAT IS IN THEBIBLE...AND AS THEY ARE OBJECTIVE AND DEPEND ON THINGS LIKE TANGABLE PROOF ALONG WITH PEOPLE EXPLAIN THIENGS AS THEY KNOW THEM TO BE IN THEIR WAY OF EXPLAINING IT...LIKE TODAY SCIENCE CAN PROVE THAT A COMET HIT ..THE ARK SOULD NOT HAVE BEEN MADE OF GOLD OR AS THEY COULD NOT HAVE HAD IT THERE WITHTHEM AT TAHT TIME. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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"NEVEER ALLOW OUR HISTORY TO BE DISTROYED, TAKEN, DENIED...examples...
THE NEXT TIME YOU...
KNOCK ON WOOD...
GET BAPTIZED...IS PRE THE BIBLE AND TAKES US BACK TO OUR EGYPTIAN ROOTS...
BELIEVE WE WERE PUT INTO SLAVERY, BECAUSE SLAVES WERE NOT CONSIDERED AS "PROPERTY FROM BIRTH TO DEATH(WAS ACTUALLY DISPROVED AS THEWORDS OF G-O-D...AFTER WE WERE BROUGHT TO 'CHRISTIAN AMERICA..OR ARE YOU STILLINSISTING WE ARE STILL CONSIDERED AS 'PROPERTY' SO WE CAN GET SOULS AND BE ABLE TO ENTER HEAVEN???????????????????????...???????????????...
OH, BY THE WAY , EGYPT IS ACTUALLY IN MOTHER AFRICA. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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OOPS...A COMET HIT S&G...SCIENCE IS LOOKING FOR THE ARK AS A BOX WITH POSSIBLE WRITINGS ON IT ABOUT THIS STORY ON TI FROM THAT PERIOD IN TIME(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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@HARRY, WHER CAN I BUY YOUR 'BOOK'????????????????????????(SMILE)...
OR IS ITLIKE YOU NATION, NOT READY FOR SHOWING OUT SIDE OF PLANET STUCK ON STUPID?..
OR AS DAVID CALLS IT 'NEVER, NEVER LAND...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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@MY SON, I AM GOING TO TAKE YOU OUT BEHIND THEWOOD SHED FOR FORCING PROPHET HARRY TONOW SAY HE IS NO LONGER USING MOSES AS HIS R-O-L-E MODLE AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS OF SAYING THIS...
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON YOU FOR SLAPING HIM SO HARD.MAMMY BAY, BAY DID NOT RAISE YOU LIKE THIS.LOL!!!(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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MORE OF NEVER ALLOW OUR PROUD BIA HISTORY OR OUR TIES TOMOTHER AFRICA TO DIE...
IF YOU HAVE A RELIGIOUS ITEM IN YOUR HOME...MOTHER AFRICA...I KNOW IN N.C. WE SAY MANY 'AFRICAN WORDS..."I" BELIEVE ONE AFRICAN WORD WE IN THE DEEP SOUTH STILL USE IS 'CHUNK' NOT 'THROW'...CHUNK IS AN AFRICAN WORD UNCHANGED...
PLEASE TRY TO ACCEPT WE HAVE SOMETING CALLED, "ORAL HISTORY' TO TEACH US THENGS NOT ALLOWED TO BE TAUGHTINOUR PRBLIC SCHOOLS. (S-M-I-L-E)...
LOV YA A-L-L
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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SON, WHAT A GREAT QUESTION...CAN'T WAIT FOR OUR FIRST BLACK AMERICA PROPHET TO TEACH US...
BECAUSE IF IT WAS TO TEACH HOW TO SAVE THE ONLY SON OF HIS G-O-D...HE FAILED 110% TO DO IT...IN FACT IT WAS ONE OF MY FAVORTE MEN IN THEBIBLE THAT LED THEPEOPLEOF MOSES TO'THE PROMISED LAND'(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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