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Which one of these stories is true?? Genesis 1:1 thru Genesis 2:3 or Genesis 2:4 that runs to the end of the chapter at Genesis 2:25 If one of the story is true, then which one and who was the eye wittiness all these things that happen?
Posted By: Sylvainy R
Friday, June 20th 2014 at 4:10PM
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Brother SoSo,
I would say both of them are correct, WHY? Genesis two compliments Genesis 1. Both talks about god's creation of man and woman. Genesis two is more geared to God's creation of man and then woman and where God placed placed his creations.
Friday, June 20th 2014 at 4:46PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Greetings,
Mr. Gray you are wrong to answer which Genesis is correct because you don't know since you are not a Jew. You don't know the circumstances and the mindset of the Jewish people when they wrote the two different Genesis.
Mr. Soso's question can only be answered by descendents of the Biblical Jews. It is their story and the understanding and spiritual aspirations are confined only in the hearts and minds of the Jewish people and no of the people.
So you Mr. Gray adequately answer the question. All that you are doing is making up a story which means you are lying. The end result is confusion! Every one who is not a Jew and is reading the Bible must see the Bible academically. In other words, see the Bible as a regular book, but to the people whose stories are in the Bible the Bible is special to them and not academic.
When we Black Americans write our book it will be special to us because it is our personal story but to everyone else it is academic. The Bible is not the spiritual guiding book for Black Americans. We need to stop arguing and discussing the spiritual books of other people as though it was our spiritual book.
Friday, June 20th 2014 at 10:42PM
Harry Watley
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Greetings,
Why should I shut up Steve? Is it because I'm telling the truth? I shouldn't have to fight you to gain Mr. Gray since Mr. Gray and I are the same race. You are not one of us Steve. I told you this a few years ago that I shouldn't have to fight you for my own people. You are going to lose and you will not forget the pain you going to incur on yourself.
Friday, June 20th 2014 at 11:48PM
Harry Watley
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Harry grow up Be a man and apologise to Deacon Ron Gray
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 12:39AM
Sylvainy R
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Harry,
This is not about race, it's about the creation accounts in the bible. And I was not speaking for Deacon I was speaking for myself. Every time I think you could not possible get more inane you prove me wrong.
Now how long did you persist in that foolishness about make and create based on these very passages?
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 7:27AM
Steve Williams
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You don't define me, I do. If I say that I am a contractor, then that's what I am. I am a Black Hebrew Jew living in America, as a Black Jew, Black American, That follows the teachings Of The Holy Bible.
I to agree with Brother SoSo and Brother Steve, be a man, confess your sins of you wronging me and apologize. Stop running and share in the wisdom, love, belonging of understanding that you too apart of the greatest story ever told.
Apologize now and ask me to forgive you and set yourself free.
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 8:46AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Steve,
The question I asked you is why I should shut up. Give me an answer to that, that and I can understand. Show me something I said that was wrong! I said that prophets are racially different. Is that wrong? I said that Black Americans are a new race of people. Is that wrong? I said that nobody but the Jewish people can interpret the Bible because it is their story and they know everything about. Is that wrong?
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 10:03AM
Harry Watley
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Yes Harry, I'm talking about your statement that only the Jews can interpret the biblical creation stories. Anyone who can read and study can interpret these stories. Even someone who doesn't study (you Harry) can interpret these stories. Even though your interpretation is inane.
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 10:26AM
Steve Williams
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Mr. Deacon,
You said this, "You don't define me, I do. If I say that I am a contractor, then that's what I am." Mr. Deacon being a contractor is one thing and knowing whether you are a Black American is another thing. Contracting is an occupation. Knowing who you are is a matter of intelligence. I can define you because I know how you got here and where you came from; Black Americans came into existence from the systemic organize breeding process between the old slave master and the slaves during plantation slavery.
You are just conveniently saying stupid things and can't prove it like I have proven who we Black Americans are. Black Americans are not to be associated with anything before our existence. By associating names like Jew, Hebrew and Israelites that existed long before plantation slavery is wrong since plantation slavery is the timeline Black Americans came into existence.
You don't know who you are, but as your prophet I know who you are! Is there a good reason for you to not know who you are? Of course there is; plantation slavery! Since God did not create Black Americans in the conventional way then who is to say who we are except it be God when God comes to redeem us. We don't know who we are. We were made and bred like animals, but we are human beings with a soul and spirit. It is incumbent upon God to redeem us. It was just a matter of time before our cries would reach the ears of God. In other words, we had to initiate the reaching out to God. Likewise, the children of Israel had to initiate the reaching out to God for help.
Anyway, I can define you! All prophets know that people. God educates the prophets. There has never been a stupid prophet and there never will be a stupid prophet!
What I saying all the pieces fit together, but what you are saying the pieces don’t fit together!
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 10:32AM
Harry Watley
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Steve,
Let us analytically reason this out. I say that the stories in the Bible are personal. Those stories are as personal as an average family today decides to go camping. Videos are taken up the family fishing and swimming and everything else reasonable to imagine a family would do on a camping trip. This outing no one else can share. Everything that happened that day on that camping trip the family members know what because it is personal to them.
When three or four on lookers comes along and review the video and a discrepancy arises between the onlookers who best can resolve the discrepancy except it be one of the family members on the camping trip.
The fact that Mr. Soso ass presented all question of two creations says that an accurate interpretation can only be given by the Jewish people since they know what they wrote and what was happening at that precise moment in time.
A stranger looking at someone's family album can do what so much interpretation that is why a family member is always there explaining to the stranger or friend what is going on am I right.
I am doing the right thing to get my Black American people out of the Jewish/European gentile Christian Bible.
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 10:50AM
Harry Watley
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@ Harry
Now be a man and apologize to Deacon Ron Gray
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 11:48AM
Sylvainy R
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To continue your analogy Harry, if you had pictures of your dead ancestors camping and fishing you would not be able to interpret those pictures, just because you are a descendant, any better than I who am not a descendant.
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 12:14PM
Steve Williams
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Brother SoSo,
I have to apologize to you for taken your topic off course to jump in this old man as* for his attempt to define me as a Black Man, A black Jew and a Black American.
Please accept these words as my heartfelt apology.
Deacon Ron Gray
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 12:39PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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@ Brother Deacon Ron Gray
No prob
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 12:59PM
Sylvainy R
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@ Brother Deacon Ron Gray
I understand Harry is a repugnant computer software that has malfunction
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 1:03PM
Sylvainy R
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Mr. Deacon,
I did not define you as a Black man. I did not define you as a Black Jew. But, I did define you as a Black American. A Black American is a new race of people born out of the ashes of plantation slavery when the old slave-masters bred themselves with their slaves for 300 years.
The labels Jew, Israelites and Hebrew precede Black America’s existence. Therefore, you cannot connect these labels to Black Americans. You are making up stories about Black Americans to fit your warped concept of who you think Black Americans are!
You are trying to bend and erase the truth to keep your skewed concept alive that Black Americans are somehow biblical Israelites/Jewish people. You are very dishonest man and your dishonesty is mainly against yourself. You know that your concept is wrong and to grow you must abandon the wrong and take hold of the truth that I say that is necessary to correct you.
Why I say you are dishonest is because I had asked you that if you believe Black Americans are the true descendents of the biblical Jewish people then who are the people in the state of Israel today. If things were reversed and you asked me a tough question I would be glad to answer it. You have not said who you believe the people in the state of Israel today. I am asking you to account for who those people are since Black Americans you say are Jewish people.
A big change has started to benefit Black Americans to become free of Christianity, Islam, other people’s prophets and other people’s religious books. Black Americans are on our way to becoming a sovereign people in a country of our own. This is more than what Christianity could have ever given us Black Americans.
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 1:27PM
Harry Watley
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HARRY,
Sorry, this blog is not the venue for this off topic or this subject of yours. Now, if you want to comment on the subject matter presented in the his blog, please feel free to do so. I have address this topic. This blog is not about me and I will not engage with you about me here... Is that understood...
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 3:08PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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@ Harry
Now be a man and apologize to Deacon Ron Gray
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 3:14PM
Sylvainy R
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How is it Harry you deny your ancestors and at the same time say you have a connection to them? I refer to your African ancestors of 4000 years ago Harry.
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 3:18PM
Steve Williams
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Brother Steve,
Good question... I got to see his reply...
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 3:55PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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@ Deacon Ron Gray
You can't tell Harry he is an itot he is not going to understand what he is
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 4:26PM
Sylvainy R
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Brother SoSo,
That Brother understands what he has done and what he continues to do.
Saturday, June 21st 2014 at 4:35PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Steve,
First of all who are my ancestors? Then what or which ancestor am I denying?
Sunday, June 22nd 2014 at 12:28AM
Harry Watley
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You deny your African ancestors Harry.
Sunday, June 22nd 2014 at 12:49AM
Steve Williams
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Stupid-ass Steve,
How can you say that I am denying my African ancestors when I've told you that Black Americans are a new race of people! Are you fu*king stupid! You must not comprehend well. I've been saying for the past four years idiot that Black Americans are a new race of people! Where have your dumb-ass mind been for the past four years?
Sunday, June 22nd 2014 at 11:00AM
Harry Watley
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Everyone has ancestors going back at least 4000 years ago, even if you are a creationist. You claimed to know your ancestors better than I, but you don't even acknowledge them. It looks like you are wrong Harry when you claim only Jews can understand the creation stories.
Sunday, June 22nd 2014 at 12:14PM
Steve Williams
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Brother SoSo,
Have you notice the SILENCES from that Brother.
Wednesday, June 25th 2014 at 5:04PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Harry tells so many lies he can't keep track of them all.
Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 8:09AM
Steve Williams
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Steve,
show me how Black Americans can be traced back past 500 years!
Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 8:36AM
Harry Watley
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“As for Priscilla, we know that within ten years of her arrival in South Carolina, she married another slave named Primus and had one child, Peter, and by 1763 married another slave named Jeffrey with whom she had nine children, the last born in 1786. Did she do the oppressive work in the rice fields, suffering in the heat, murky water, and endless plagues of insects? Or did she work closer to the plantation house—perhaps washing clothes? We do not know how she spent her days, but we can be sure that she proved extremely hardy or lucky, as a slave in rice country bearing so many children and living until 1811, about age 65. What makes her story so fascinating is that we can not only document her enslavement from the start, but identify some of her descendants that still live in the region today, discovered by Edward Ball while researching his popular book. They represent a tiny handful of American families who can without breaks trace their roots directly back to Africa.41”
“41 Ball, Slaves in the Family, 450–51.”
Excerpt From: Jr. Henry Louis Gates. “The African Americans.” Hay House, 2012-04-30. iBooks.
This material may be protected by copyright.
Check out this book on the iBooks Store: https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStor...
Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 9:00AM
Steve Williams
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@ Steve Williams
Hence a liar has no memory
Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 9:27AM
Sylvainy R
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Brother SoSo,
Wow!!! So true. I could have said it better.
Thursday, June 26th 2014 at 9:50AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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