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The Birth of Jesus Luke 2 In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. 2 (This was the first census that took place while[a] Quirinius was governor of Syria. 3 And everyone went to their own town to register. 4 So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. 5 He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. 6 While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, 7 and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no guest room available for them. 8 And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people. 11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. 12 This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.” 13 Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying, 14 “Glory to God in the highest heaven, and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests.” 15 When the angels had left them and gone into heaven, the shepherds said to one another, “Let’s go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has happened, which the Lord has told us about.” 16 So they hurried off and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby, who was lying in the manger. 17 When they had seen him, they spread the word concerning what had been told them about this child, 18 and all who heard it were amazed at what the shepherds said to them. 19 But Mary treasured up all these things and pondered them in her heart. 20 The shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things they had heard and seen, which were just as they had been told. 21 On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived. Jesus is the reason for this season.
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Monday, December 25th 2017 at 6:29PM
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Christmas is about the winter solstice.
Tuesday, December 26th 2017 at 12:25AM
Steve Williams
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Maybe for you but not for me. The birth of Jesus is the reason for the season. for me and my family.
Tuesday, December 26th 2017 at 2:59AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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“We All Know That Christmas is About The Birth of Jesus,”
SUBJECT
".....Luke 2
In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world.
11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
reason for this season.
Posted By: Deacon Ron Gray
Monday, December 25th 2017 at 6:29PM
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So the latinRoman Colonizing Emperor from paganRome.....DECREED
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ok---- for the paganRoman Colonizers......2000+ years ago
BUT
1. for the African Asian, northSouthAmerican, Oceanic Populations ........................... 0-2017
... the season is a change of Sun's direction for north And south Hemisphere's
2. for the African Asian, northSouthAmerican, Oceanic Populations of Belief in Creator ....0-2017
... the season is a change of Sun's direction for north And south Hemisphere's
3. for euroPagan Believers .... Roman Empire OK....SAME as 'blackHebrewIsraelite' and family
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your kingJames euroDocumentation also reads.....
"........2 (This was the first census that took place while[a] Quirinius was governor of Syria.
3 And everyone went to their own town to register....."
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is that CENSUS of European paganRomans or paganGreeks were in Syria-Africa Asia OR where?
Tuesday, December 26th 2017 at 9:25AM
robert powell
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The town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, Jerusalem and Bethlehem is situated among the hills which constitute the south ridges of Lebanon, just before they sink down into the plain of Esdraelon.
The Middle East is a historical and political region of Afro-Eurasia.
Tuesday, December 26th 2017 at 10:24AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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“We All Know That Christmas is About The Birth of Jesus,”
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---Sorry I think of Santa Claus, reindeer, pineTrees, presents and blueEyed Mangers with sheep/Camels
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".....The town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, Jerusalem and Bethlehem is situated among the hills which constitute the south ridges of Lebanon, just before they sink down into the plain of Esdraelon.
The Middle East is a historical and political region of Afro-Eurasia...."
Tuesday, December 26th 2017 at 10:24AM
Deacon Ron Gray
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---- jesus is a LATIN word.....used in the Romance languages of Europe...for 2000+ years....
TODAY... 12/26/2017
.... no TORAH, or BIBLE used by Israeli residents of Judea, Nazereth, Bethlehem, Jerusalem, Galilee,
deaconEsdraelon OR the 'blackHebrewIsraelite'...region of Afro-Eurasia
----- NONE of them USE the latin/Latino term.....jesus........!
BUT the POPE and the kingJames Versionists......DO...........!
Tuesday, December 26th 2017 at 5:16PM
robert powell
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Robert, o keep it simple, “Jesus” is a very poor Roman translation from Latin, that was also poorly translated from the Greek, which IN NO WAY resembles His Hebrew name, “Yahushua.”
Tuesday, December 26th 2017 at 8:19PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Did you hear Ron, the SPLC is tracking this tweet as right-wing white supremacist hate speech?
I must confess I’ve often scoffed at the idea that there was a “War on Christmas,” much less that anyone attempting to wage such a war had any hope of victory against the biggest holiday celebrated in America (and much of the world). But then here comes the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), with their new project: a “hate tracker” that is monitoring Twitter trends of “extremists,” including topics like “Christmas.”
The SPLC Hate Tracker launched a few months ago with a website (hatetracker.io) and a Twitter account (@splchatetracker). According to the website, the project’s purpose is to “detect trends in a community of far-right Twitter users…a range of extremists — from the conspiratorial fringes of mainstream conservatism to outright white supremacists.”
https://www.redstate.com/sarah-rumpf/2017/...
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 3:27AM
Steve Williams
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It won't happen to this blog Steve. your attempt to change this subject to some “War on Christmas,” will not work here. That attempt has failed. This subject is about “We All Know That Christmas is About The Birth of Jesus,”
Excuse Me.
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 10:55AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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“We All Know That Christmas is About The Birth of Jesus,”
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---Sorry I, a Minnesota native, think of snow, ice fishing and 20 BELOW ZERO......
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Thank you 'blackHebrewIsraelite' for PROVING my Point of a latin/LATINO jesus ONLY
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"......Robert, o keep it simple, “Jesus” is a very poor Roman translation from Latin, that was also poorly translated from the Greek, which IN NO WAY resembles His Hebrew name, “Yahushua.”
Robert, o keep it simple, “Jesus” is a very poor Roman translation from Latin, that was also poorly translated from the Greek, which IN NO WAY resembles His Hebrew name, “Yahushua.”
Tuesday, December 26th 2017 at 8:19PM
Deacon Ron Gray
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'simple' would mean kindergarten...NO, no and NO NO
I am a BIA African American Family membership signing SHATTERER of oldeStereotypical Misconceptions
--- the African American Family has been American 'simple' since 1776-1864-1964
I am a grownMan.....and an Educator of k-12+....I KEEP it Intelligent, educated and Scholastic
AND
The Hebraic People of Misr, Musa(as) and 2000+ years ago had NO thought of latin/LATINO jesus
----- SO THAT BRINGS the Educated, the Intelligent, the Historical AfricanAsian Monotheistic Believers
of the Creator of Adaam(as), the judeoIslaamic Tradition....to ask ....?
1.............WHAT IS the deaconRonGray...........Yahushua?
2.............WHAT IS the 'blackHebrewIsraelite'....Yahushua?
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I, a Muslim, Believer of Torah, Adaam/Nuh/Ibraheem/Yusuf/Musa/(sawm)....Like all JudeoIslaamic Thought
........SAY nothing to the African Asian Monotheistic Belief of the Creator of Adaam(as)
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AND.....Wiki-Dictionary write........
Yahshua
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yahshua is a PROPOSED transliteration of Hebrew/Aramaic name of Jesus in the Sacred Name Movement.
The English spelling Yahshua originates at least as early as 1950
with Angelo Traina's The New Testament of our Messiah and Saviour Yahshua.
The form Yahshua is used in some Sacred Name Bibles, including the Sacred Scriptures Bethel Edition.
It cannot be found used prior to 1950, however, with that spelling.
--------- Etymology and claimed Hebrew origins
Yeshua or Yahshua
Main article: Names and titles of Jesus in the New Testament
BUT
Three TRANSLITERATED spellings of "Joshua" found in the Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible:
(i) Yehoshua, (ii) Yehoshua, (iii) Yeshua
The Hebrew Bible uses Yehoshua (éÀäåÉùËÑòÇ) for Joshua,
which means "Yah is Salvation."
Christians, historians, and linguists outside the sacred name movement REJECT the term Yahshua (éäùò)
in favor of Yeshua (éùåò) as the original pronunciation.
Aramaic form Yeshua among many names containing Yah derived from YHWH.
An additional variant:
Yahshuah (Hebrew: éäùåä), is found in Christian Kabbalah or occult speculations.
Like Yahshua, this variant is not found in the Hebrew Bible-TORAH
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Let's in 2018 christianEuro Calendar
...Learn Something, sometime of African Asian Monotheistism
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 12:39PM
robert powell
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Yeshua is a name which means ‘Salvation’ in Hebrew.
Yeshua is the same as Jesus Christ of the New Testament Bible, and the same as the Messiah which was prophesied to come through the Jewish people over and again in the Old Testament Bible which is known as the Tanakh to the Jews.
Robert, have you asked yourself Why do people call Yeshua ‘Jesus’?
The name “Jesus” comes from the Latin Iesus, which comes from an Anglicized form of the Greek name Yesous. What this means is that the Greek name Yesous was altered as it was adopted by the English language. In the 1st century the Greek name Yesous represented the Hebrew name Yeshua, which was a shortened form of the Hebrew name Yehoshua. Despite claims to the contrary, there is no historical or linguistic basis in any biblical texts for other modern forms of the name Yeshua, such as Yahshua, Yahushua, Yeshu, or Y’shua. The name ‘Jesus’ did not yet exist during the the time that Jesus Christ was on Earth, approximately 4 BC to 29 or 34 AD. It did not come into existence until it was configured by the Council of Nicea of the Roman Catholic Church in the 4th century.
Now let us keep in mind that the translation of Yeshua from Hebrew to Jesus translated by the Greeks don not make Yeshua any less valid.
Did you read Luke 2 LOCATED THAT THE TOP OF THIS BLOG?
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 1:29PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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It is happening here Ron. You tweet this blog to your fellow twits, your friends at the southern poverty law center record it.
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 2:47PM
Steve Williams
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“We All Know That Christmas is About The Birth of Jesus.” Did you read Luke 2 LOCATED THAT THE TOP OF THIS BLOG?
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 5:28PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The reason Matthew and Luke have so many parallels is because they both are based on the Gospel of Q.
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 6:38PM
Steve Williams
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I do not ask you about the parallels Matthew or Luke. I asked you did you read Luke 2 LOCATED AT THE TOP OF THIS BLOG?
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 6:51PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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LOL to two comments from TWO I have socialized on the Cloud with for awhile
It is happening here Ron. You tweet this blog to your fellow twits, your friends at the southern poverty law center record it.
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 2:47PM
Steve Williams
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Robert, have you asked yourself Why do people call Yeshua ‘Jesus’?
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 1:29PM
Deacon Ron Gray
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southern poverty law center !!!!!!!
-------- Hoorah
"Why do people call Yeshua ‘Jesus’? "
-------- HOOrah
1950...is like 1950 years after the Virgin Birth in Africa Asia......
Its a Misconception, or a LIE.............................................
-------- The English spelling Yahshua originates at least as early as 1950
-------- Yahshuah is found in Christian Kabbalah or occult speculations.
Like Yahshua, this variant is not found in the Hebrew Bible-TORAH
------- Yeshua yahsuah, yahYAH, youRAH, HOOrah.....PLEEZE.....
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 7:31PM
robert powell
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What happen Robert, I asked you did you read Luke 2 LOCATED AT THE TOP OF THIS BLOG?
Wednesday, December 27th 2017 at 8:46PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, you seem to have a preference for anonymous sources. I wonder why that is.
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 4:00AM
Steve Williams
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I asked you did you read Luke 2 LOCATED AT THE TOP OF THIS BLOG?
This is the best you can do. YOUR WORDS: "Ron, you seem to have a preference for anonymous sources. I wonder why that is."
You call The Holy Bible, The Book of Luke 2, anonymous sources?
Steve, did you know that The annual sales figures for The Holy Bible are so high, averaging between $425m and $650m, repeatedly – year after year – that it dwarfs the sales of all other books. The best any other book can hope for is second place and a very distant second place at that.
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 7:05AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I know the question you asked me Ron. As far as bible sales I find it mind boggling that in 2017 so many still believe we know who its specific writers were.
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 9:25AM
Steve Williams
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“We All Know That Christmas is About The Birth of Jesus,”
SUBJECT
I, at BIA, an African American Family site....know that
----- 'blackHebrewIsraelite' is not always the most researched, read or truthful blagger.....
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I would for sake of stereotypical Misconceptions.....Need More information is needed to verify your..
"....Steve, did you know that The annual sales figures for The Holy Bible are so high, averaging between $425m and $650m, repeatedly – year after year – that it dwarfs the sales of all other books......"
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 7:05AM
Deacon Ron Gray
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Now is that:
1. WITH pictures?
2. Fiction or nonfiction?
3. in oldeEnglish, latin OR Hebrew?
4. Published....or Sold?......
...I understand Some Books are So Loved they are GIVEN away...Or stored in Memory of Men/Women
BUT
According to Guinness World Records,
YES.....the Bible is the best-selling book of all time with over 5 billion copies sold and distributed.
-------However, the Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung, also known as the Little Red Book,
has produced a wide array of sales and distribution figures — with some sources claiming
over 6.5 billion printed volumes,[3] others claiming the distribution ran into the "billions,"[4] and
others citing "over a billion" official volumes between 1966 and 1969 alone as well as
"untold numbers of unofficial local reprints and unofficial translations."[5][6]
The Qur'an is also widely reported to be one of the most printed and distributed books worldwide,
[7][8][9] with billions of copies believed to be in existence.
Excluding non-copyright works such as the Bible (with an estimated 6 billion copies sold) and the Koran,
the world's all-time best-selling book is Guinness World Records.
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Exact print figures for all books may also be missing or unreliable since many kinds of books
may be produced by many different and unrelated publishers..... cases over many centuries.
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 10:05AM
robert powell
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I notice how you brought those other books into play. I have to thank you for my best laugh of the day, when you used :Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung, also known as the Little Red Book. (LOL)
Come man, you already confirmed my point. WOW!!!!
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 11:07AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I notice how you brought those other books into play. I have to thank you for my best laugh of the day, when you used :Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung, also known as the Little Red Book. (LOL)
Come man, you already confirmed my point. WOW!!!!
Now let us get back on topic of “We All Know That Christmas is About The Birth of Jesus,”
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 11:08AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Two of the three commentators here know, Christmas is not about the birth of Jesus.
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 11:58AM
Steve Williams
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Choice of December 25 date
In the 3rd century, the date of birth of Jesus was the subject of both great interest and great uncertainty. Around AD 200, Clement of Alexandria wrote:
“ There are those who have determined not only the year of our Lord's birth, but also the day; and they say that it took place in the 28th year of Augustus, and in the 25th day of [the Egyptian month] Pachon [May 20] … Further, others say that He was born on the 24th or 25th of Pharmuthi [April 20 or 21].[49] ”
In other writing of this time, 20 May, 18 or 19 April March 25, 2 January November 17, and November 20 are all suggested.[9][50] Various factors contributed to the selection of December 25 as a date of celebration: it was the date of the winter solstice on the Roman calendar; it was about nine months after March 25, the date of the vernal equinox and a date linked to the conception of Jesus.
Solstice date
December 25 was the date of the winter solstice on the Roman calendar.[51][52] Jesus chose to be born on the shortest day of the year for symbolic reasons, according to an early Christmas sermon by Augustine: "Hence it is that He was born on the day which is the shortest in our earthly reckoning and from which subsequent days begin to increase in length. He, therefore, who bent low and lifted us up chose the shortest day, yet the one whence light begins to increase."[53]
Linking Jesus to the Sun was supported by various Biblical passages. Jesus was considered to be the "Sun of righteousness" prophesied by Malachi: "Unto you shall the sun of righteousness arise, and healing is in his wings."[54] John describes Jesus as "the light of the world."[55]
Such solar symbolism could support more than one date of birth. An anonymous work known as De Pascha Computus (243) linked the idea that creation began at the spring equinox, on March 25, with the conception or birth (the word nascor can mean either) of Jesus on March 28, the day of the creation of the sun in the Genesis account. One translation reads: "O the splendid and divine providence of the Lord, that on that day, the very day, on which the sun was made, March 28, a Wednesday, Christ should be born.[9][56]
In the 17th century, Isaac Newton argued that the date of Christmas was selected to correspond with the solstice.[57]
According to Steven Hijmans of the University of Alberta, "It is cosmic symbolism ... which inspired the Church leadership in Rome to elect the southern solstice, December 25, as the birthday of Christ, and the northern solstice as that of John the Baptist, supplemented by the equinoxes as their respective dates of conception."[58]
Calculation hypothesis
The Calculation hypothesis suggests that an earlier holiday held on March 25 became associated with the Incarnation.[59] Modern scholars refer to this feast as the Quartodecimal. Christmas was then calculated as nine months later. The Calculation hypothesis was proposed by French writer Louis Duchesne in 1889.[60][61]
In modern times, March 25 is celebrated as Annunciation. This holiday was created in the seventh century and was assigned to a date that is nine months before Christmas, in addition to being the traditional date of the equinox. It is unrelated to the Quartodecimal, which had been forgotten by this time.[62]
Early Christians celebrated the life of Jesus on a date considered equivalent to 14 Nisan (Passover) on the local calendar. Because Passover was held on the 14th of the month, this feast is referred to as the Quartodecimal. All the major events of Christ's life, especially the passion, were celebrated on this date. In his letter to the Corinthians, Paul mentions Passover, presumably celebrated according to the local calendar in Corinth.[63] Tertullian (d. 220), who lived in Latin-speaking North Africa, gives the date of passion celebration as March 25.[64] The date of the passion was moved to Good Friday in 165 when Pope Soter created Easter by reassigning the Resurrection to a Sunday. According to the Calculation hypothesis, celebration of the quartodecimal continued in some areas and the feast became associated with Incarnation.
The Calculation hypothesis is considered academically to be "a thoroughly viable hypothesis", though not certain.[65] It was a traditional Jewish belief that great men lived a whole number of years, without fractions, so that Jesus was considered to have been conceived on March 25, as he died on March 25, which was calculated to have coincided with 14 Nisan.[66]
A passage in Commentary on the Prophet Daniel (204) by Hippolytus of Rome identifies December 25 as the date of the nativity. This passage is generally considered a late interpellation. The manuscript includes another passage, one that is more likely to be authentic, that gives the passion as March 25.[67]
In 221, s*xtus Julius Africanus (c. 160 – c. 240) gave March 25 as the day of creation and of the conception of Jesus in his universal history. This conclusion was based on solar symbolism, with March 25 the date of the equinox. As this implies a birth in December, it is sometimes claimed to be the earliest identification of December 25 as the nativity. However, Africanus was not such an influential writer that it is likely he determined the date of Christmas.[68]
The tractate De solstitia et aequinoctia conceptionis et nativitatis Domini nostri Iesu Christi et Iohannis Baptistae, falsely attributed to John Chrysostom, also argued that Jesus was conceived and crucified on the same day of the year and calculated this as March 25.[69][70] This anonymous tract also states: "But Our Lord, too, is born in the month of December ... the eight before the calends of January [25 December] ..., But they call it the 'Birthday of the Unconquered'. Who indeed is so unconquered as Our Lord...? Or, if they say that it is the birthday of the Sun, He is the Sun of Justice."[9]
History of religions hypothesis
The rival "History of Religions" hypothesis suggests that the Church selected December 25 date to appropriate festivities held by the Romans in honor of the Sun god Sol Invictus.[59] This feast was established by Aurelian in 274.
An explicit expression of this theory appears in an annotation of uncertain date added to a manuscript of a work by 12th-century Syrian bishop Jacob Bar-Salibi. The scribe who added it wrote: "It was a custom of the Pagans to celebrate on the same 25 December the birthday of the Sun, at which they kindled lights in token of festivity. In these solemnities and revelries the Christians also took part. Accordingly when the doctors of the Church perceived that the Christians had a leaning to this festival, they took counsel and resolved that the true Nativity should be solemnised on that day." [71]
In 1743, German Protestant Paul Ernst Jablonski argued Christmas was placed on December 25 to correspond with the Roman solar holiday Dies Natalis Solis Invicti and was therefore a "paganization" that debased the true church.[72] It has been argued that, on the contrary, the Emperor Aurelian, who in 274 instituted the holiday of the Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, did so partly as an attempt to give a pagan significance to a date already important for Christians in Rome.[73]
Hermann Usener[74] and others[32] proposed that the Christians chose this day because it was the Roman feast celebrating the birthday of Sol Invictus. Modern scholar S. E. Hijmans, however, states that "While they were aware that pagans called this day the 'birthday' of Sol Invictus, this did not concern them and it did not play any role in their choice of date for Christmas."[58] Moreover, Thomas J. Talley holds that the Roman Emperor Aurelian placed a Sol Invictus on December 25 in order to compete with the growing rate of the Christian Church, which had already been celebrating Christmas on that date first.[75]
In the judgement of the Church of England Liturgical Commission, the History of Religions hypothesis has been challenged[76] by a view based on an old tradition, according to which the date of Christmas was fixed at nine months after March 25, the date of the vernal equinox, on which the Annunciation was celebrated.[69]
With regard to a December religious feast of the sun as a god (Sol), as distinct from a solstice feast of the (re)birth of the astronomical sun, one scholar has commented that, "while the winter solstice on or around December 25 was well established in the Roman imperial calendar, there is no evidence that a religious celebration of Sol on that day antedated the celebration of Christmas".[77] "Thomas Talley has shown that, although the Emperor Aurelian's dedication of a temple to the sun god in the Campus Martius (C.E. 274) probably took place on the 'Birthday of the Invincible Sun' on December 25, the cult of the sun in pagan Rome ironically did not celebrate the winter solstice nor any of the other quarter-tense days, as one might expect."[78] The Oxford Companion to Christian Thought remarks on the uncertainty about the order of precedence between the religious celebrations of the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun and of the birthday of Jesus, stating that the hypothesis that December 25 was chosen for celebrating the birth of Jesus on the basis of the belief that his conception occurred on March 25 "potentially establishes 25 December as a Christian festival before Aurelian's decree, which, when promulgated, might have provided for the Christian feast both opportunity and challenge".[79]
Introduction of feast
As Christmas was unknown to the early Christian writers, it must have been introduced sometime after 300. Irenaeus and Tertullian omit it from their lists of feasts, and Origen writes that in the Scriptures sinners alone, not saints, celebrate their birthday. Arnobius can still ridicule the "birthdays" of the gods.[9] The first recorded Christmas celebration was in Rome in 336.[45][46] The feast was introduced to the Eastern Roman Empire after the death of Emperor Valens, who favored the Arian heresy, in 378.
In 245, Origen of Alexandria, writing about Leviticus 12:1–8, commented that Scripture mentions only sinners as celebrating their birthdays, namely Pharaoh, who then had his chief baker hanged (Genesis 40:20–22), and Herod, who then had John the Baptist beheaded (Mark 6:21–27), and mentions saints as cursing the day of their birth, namely Jeremiah (Jeremiah 20:14–15) and Job (Job 3:1–16).[80] In 303, Arnobius ridiculed the idea of celebrating the birthdays of gods, a passage cited as evidence that Arnobius was unaware of any nativity celebration.[81] Since Christmas does not celebrate Christ's birth "as God" but "as man", this does not necessarily show that Christmas was not a feast at this time.[9]
The fact the Donatists of North Africa celebrated Christmas suggests that the feast was established by the time that church was created in 311.[82][83] The earliest known Christmas celebration is recorded in a fourth-century manuscript compiled in Rome.[45] This manuscript is thought to record a celebration that occurred in 336. It was prepared privately for Filocalus, a Roman aristocrat, in 354. The reference in question states, "VIII kal. ian. natus Christus in Betleem Iudeæ"[46] translated as "[a]Birth of Christ in Bethlehem, Judea.”[84] This reference is in a section of the manuscript that was copied from earlier source material.[85] The document also contains the earliest known reference to the feast of Sol Invictus.[86]
In Eastern Christianity the birth of Jesus was already celebrated in connection with the Epiphany on January 6.[87][88] Epiphany emphasized celebration of the baptism of Jesus.[89] December 25 celebration was imported into the East later: in Antioch by John Chrysostom towards the end of the fourth century,[88] probably in 388, and in Alexandria only in the following century.[90] Even in the West, January 6 celebration of the nativity of Jesus seems to have continued until after 380.[91]
In the East, early Christians celebrated the birth of Christ as part of Epiphany (January 6), although Christmas was promoted in the Christian East as part of the revival of Nicene Christianity following the death of the pro-Arian Emperor Valens at the Battle of Adrianople in 378. The feast was introduced at Constantinople in 379, and at Antioch in about 380. The feast disappeared after Gregory of Nazianzus resigned as bishop in 381, although it was reintroduced by John Chrysostom in about 400.[9]
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 12:29PM
Steve Williams
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Two of the three commentators here know, Christmas is not about the birth of Jesus.
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 11:58AM
Steve Williams
AND I would agree More with research of the 1 of the 3 commentators at this blag are the BIA, #1,
in Latin....I numero ... researcher and probably English Reader.....
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Subiectum
Class aptent de hoc quod natus est Iesus
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Evangelium secundum Lucam II
In diebus illis exiit edictum a Caesare Augusto ut describeretur universus orbis.
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Europa universalis est, Romana paganus fantasy Iesu Christo
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 2:38PM
robert powell
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Class of the fact that Jesus was born
BUT
Luke 2
In the days that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world.
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European, the Roman pagan fantasy of Jesus Christ
Do you really think by using the Latin language I was not going to understand what you said?
Come on man, you already confirmed my point. WOW!!!!
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 8:02PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Try again for subiectum.
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 8:39PM
Steve Williams
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What do you think subiectum means Steve? In English subiectum means subject which is accurate in my post, this is far to easy.
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 10:28PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I'm talking about the subject, not the meaning of subiectum. To start with, is aptent a noun or a verb?
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 10:34PM
Steve Williams
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Is that all you think is wrong with my translation of what Robert posted?
What do you think subiectum means Steve?
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 10:40PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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"APTENT" Is this what you think subiectum means to you Steve?
Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 11:54PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I think that subiectum is not:
"Class of the fact that Jesus was born"
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 12:43AM
Steve Williams
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It was not suppose to be.
Steve, did you read Luke 2 The Birth of Jesus, found in the beginning of this blog?
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 3:49AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Sure Ron. Luke said nothing about the season Jesus was born in. The season has nothing to do with the nativity.
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 8:48AM
Steve Williams
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WOW!!!! That was a very dim answer if you read Luke 2 because that passage clearly mentioned of The Birth of Jesus.
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 12:01PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I'm talking about the season. For me the meaning of the season is different. It's about rebirth. It's about my son Andrew.
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 12:45PM
Steve Williams
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Stay focus Steve, The topic of this blog is “We All Know That Christmas is About The Birth of Jesus.” As a father, you provide gifts to your son, just like our Father in Heaven, The Most High provides gifts and the form of Blessings to all that is his. The Birth of Jesus is a gift to all that believes.
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 1:44PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You said Ron:
"Jesus is the reason for this season"
The solstice is the reason for the season. The solstice is the reason for Jesus.
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 5:58PM
Steve Williams
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Explain, what are you talking about?
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 6:04PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The symbolism of Jesus is rebirth.
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 7:47PM
Steve Williams
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No onw here is talking about some Jesus is rebirth. Point out this so-called Jesus is rebirth on this blog, can you do that?
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 8:16PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I AM SAYING IT RON. Or are you saying I must agree with your assertion that Jesus is the reason for this season?
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 8:44PM
Steve Williams
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Why are you here Ron? Is it to talk to yourself?
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 8:45PM
Steve Williams
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The symbolism of the latin/LatinoJesus, romanPagan rebirth in the Holy Roman Empire EAST.....
January (in Latin, Ianuarius) is named after Janus,
--the god of beginnings and transitions; beginnings from Roman mythology
OR more accurately
--the god of beginnings and transitions; beginnings from Roman mythology Holy Roman Empire greekSTYLE
Friday, December 29th 2017 at 8:47PM
robert powell
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Why are you here Ron? To share the love of Jesus Christ of birth to others.
Saturday, December 30th 2017 at 11:30PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Did you know Ron, there are Christians that don't celebrate Christmas? Who don't believe that Jesus is the reason for it. These Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus everyday and think Christmas is a crass display. Aren't you a liberal that embraces all faiths? Right, except for Buddhists, Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses and untold others.
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 2:23AM
Steve Williams
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Sorry Steve, this blog is not about Buddhists, Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses and untold others, don't you understand that?
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 9:27AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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My point exactly. It's about your arrogance to tell the rest of us what this season is about.
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 9:32AM
Steve Williams
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It's about your arrogance to tell the rest of us what this season is about.
It's the arrogance to make/Force the Family of Adaam(as) --- to Disbelieve in the Creator of Adaam(as)
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 9:39AM
robert powell
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Robert, did you read Luke 2 found at the beginning of this blog? If you did, point out the arrogances in those words, can you do that for the People on Black In American?
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 10:14AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The Gospel According to Luke (Greek: Ôὸ êáôὰ Ëïõêᾶí åὐáããÝëéïí, to kata Loukan evangelion),
also called the Gospel of Luke, or simply Luke, is the third of the four canonical Gospels.
It tells of the origins, birth, ministry, atonement, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ.
YES.... in your oldeEnglish...... BUT not in the Original Greek Language
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 2:22PM
robert powell
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READ MY LIPS.... I 'am talking to my people in English and not in the Original Greek Language. SORRY!!!
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 4:20PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Luke 2:1-52
2 ᾿Εγένετο It happened δὲ butἐν inταῖς theἡμέραις daysἐκείναις thoseἐξῆλθεν went outδόγμα decreeπαρὰ besideΚαίσαρος CaesarΑὐγούστου Augustusἀπογράφεσθαι to be getting registeredπᾶσαν allτὴν theοἰκουμένην· inhabited [earth]; 2 αὕτη this ἀπογραφὴ registrationπρώτη firstἐγένετο occurredἡγεμονεύοντος being governorτῆς of theΣυρίας SyriaΚυρηνίου· Quirinius; 3 καὶ and ἐπορεύοντο they were going their wayπάντες allἀπογράφεσθαι, to be getting registered,ἕκαστος each (one)εἰς intoτὴν theἑαυτοῦ of himselfπόλιν. city. 4 ᾿Ανέβη Went up δὲ butκαὶ alsoἸωσὴφ Josephἀπὸ fromτῆς theΓαλιλαίας Galileeἐκ out ofπόλεως cityΝαζαρὲτ Nazarethεἰς intoτὴν theἸουδαίαν Judeaεἰς intoπόλιν cityΔαυεὶδ of Davidἥτις whichκαλεῖται is being calledΒηθλεέμ, Bethlehem,διὰ throughτὸ theεἶναι to beαὐτὸν himἐξ out ofοἴκου houseκαὶ andπατριᾶς father [place]Δαυείδ, of David, 5 ἀπογράψασθαι to get registered σὺν together withΜαριὰμ Maryτῇ the (one)ἐμνηστευμένῃ having been given in marriageαὐτῷ, to him,οὔσῃ beingἐνκύῳ. pregnant. 6 ᾿Εγένετο It occurred δὲ butἐν inτῷ theεἶναι to beαὐτοὺς themἐκεῖ thereἐπλήσθησαν were fulfilledαἱ theἡμέραι daysτοῦ of theτεκεῖν to give birthαὐτήν, her, 7 καὶ and ἔτεκεν she gave birth toτὸν theυἱὸν sonαὐτῆς of herτὸν theπρωτότοκον, firstborn,καὶ andἐσπαργάνωσεν she swaddledαὐτὸν himκαὶ andἀνέκλινεν made reclineαὐτὸν himἐν inφάτνῃ, manger,διότι becauseοὐκ notἦν wasαὐτοῖς to themτόπος placeἐν inτῷ theκαταλύματι. loosing-down [place].
8 Καὶ And ποιμένες shepherdsἦσαν wereἐν inτῇ theχώρᾳ countryτῇ theαὐτῇ veryἀγραυλοῦντες living in the fieldsκαὶ andφυλάσσοντες guardingφυλακὰς watchesτῆς of theνυκτὸς nightἐπὶ uponτὴν theποίμνην flockαὐτῶν. of them. 9 καὶ And ἄγγελος angelΚυρίου of Lordἐπέστη stood uponαὐτοῖς themκαὶ andδόξα gloryΚυρίου of Lordπεριέλαμψεν gleamed aroundαὐτούς, them,καὶ andἐφοβήθησαν they fearedφόβον fearμέγαν· great; 10 καὶ and εἶπεν saidαὐτοῖς to themὁ theἄγγελος angelΜὴ Notφοβεῖσθε, be YOU fearing,ἰδοὺ look!γὰρ forεὐαγγελίζομαι I am declaring good newsὑμῖν to YOUχαρὰν joyμεγάλην greatἥτις whichἔσται will beπαντὶ to allτῷ theλαῷ, people, 11 ὅτι because ἐτέχθη was bornὑμῖν to YOUσήμερον todayσωτὴρ Saviorὅς whoἐστιν isχριστὸς Christκύριος Lordἐν inπόλει cityΔαυείδ· of David; 12 καὶ and τοῦτο thisὑμῖν to YOUσημεῖον, sign,εὑρήσετε YOU will findβρέφος infantἐσπαργανωμένον having been swaddledκαὶ andκείμενον lyingἐν inφάτνῃ. manger. 13 καὶ And ἐξέφνης suddenlyἐγένετο came to beσὺν withτῷ theἀγγέλῳ angelπλῆθος multitudeστρατιᾶς of armyοὐρανίου heavenlyαἰνούντων of (ones) praisingτὸν theθεὸν Godκαὶ andλεγόντων saying 14 Δόξα Glory ἐν inὑψίστοις highest [places]θεῷ to Godκαὶ andἐπὶ uponγῆς earthεἰρήνη peaceἐν inἀνθρώποις menεὐδοκίας. of well thinking.
15 Καὶ And ἐγένετο it occurredὡς asἀπῆλθον they went offἀπ’ fromαὐτῶν themεἰς intoτὸν theοὐρανὸν heavenοἱ theἄγγελοι, angels,οἱ theποιμένες shepherdsἐλάλουν were speakingπρὸς towardἀλλήλους one anotherΔιέλθωμεν Let us go throughδὴ actuallyἕως untilΒηθλεὲμ Bethlehemκαὶ andἴδωμεν let us seeτὸ theῥῆμα sayingτοῦτο thisτὸ theγεγονὸς having occurredὃ whichὁ theκύριος Lordἐγνώρισεν made knownἡμῖν. to us. 16 καὶ And ἦλθαν they cameσπεύσαντες having made hasteκαὶ andἀνεῦραν found upτήν theτε andΜαριὰμ Maryκαὶ andτὸν theἸωσὴφ Josephκαὶ andτὸ theβρέφος infantκείμενον lyingἐν inτῇ theφάτνῃ· manger; 17 ἰδόντες having seen δὲ butἐγνώρισαν they made knownπερὶ aboutτοῦ theῥήματος sayingτοῦ theλαληθέντος having been spokenαὐτοῖς to themπερὶ aboutτοῦ theπαιδίου little boyτούτου. this. 18 καὶ And πάντες allοἱ the (ones)ἀκούσαντες having heardἐθαύμασαν wonderedπερὶ aboutτῶν the (things)λαληθέντων having been spokenὑπὸ byτῶν theποιμένων shepherdsπρὸς towardαὐτούς, them, 19 ἡ the δὲ butΜαρία Maryπάντα allσυνετήρει was preservingτὰ theῥήματα sayingsταῦτα theseσυνβάλλουσα throwing togetherἐν inτῇ theκαρδίᾳ heartαὐτῆς. of her. 20 καὶ And ὑπέστρεψαν turned underοἱ theποιμένες shepherdsδοξάζοντες glorifyingκαὶ andαἰνοῦντες praisingτὸν theθεὸν Godἐπὶ uponπᾶσιν all (things)οἷς whichἤκουσαν they heardκαὶ andεἶδον sawκαθὼς according asἐλαλήθη it was spokenπρὸς towardαὐτούς. them.
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 4:29PM
Steve Williams
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This is the original language Ron.
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 5:06PM
Steve Williams
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This is the Greek translation from Hebrew Steve.
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 5:56PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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This is the language that King James translated from. The language of the Edomites.
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 5:59PM
Steve Williams
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Don't you think that The Most High has the power to make his word clear to all nations and tongues?
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 6:56PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The most high is not a person, not a "he". What we know comes from observation of the natural world and all humans have the power to observe, if they choose to exercise that power.
Sunday, December 31st 2017 at 11:30PM
Steve Williams
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In the Bible, God is indeed spoken of in masculine terms. Before we think about why this is the case, there needs to be two clarifications. Firstly, the Bible is clear that God is spirit (John 4:24) and thus should not be thought as a flesh and blood being.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:24King James Version (KJV)
The question still stands Steve. "Don't you think that The Most High has the power to make YAH'S word clear to all nations and tongues?
Monday, January 1st 2018 at 9:54AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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