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Morning Joe 4/2/18 President Trump vents about immigration in tweets In a new round of Monday tweets, the president sounded off again on immigration, border laws, and he called on Congress to pass 'Border Legislation'. The panel discusses. Duration: 4:15
Posted By: Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 10:34AM
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As the WAR between Republicans continues...
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 12:13PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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"DACA is dead because the Democrats didn’t care or act."
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 1:13PM
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The President had an opportunity to get his wall, at least a lot of it from congress, and he has been unable to negotiate that compromise, even had the prospect of getting Mexico to pay for it with the imposition of a border adjustment Tax and that wasn’t satisfactory to HOUSE.
This is just more of the war between Republicans as it continues on.
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 2:57PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You and the Democrats don't care about DACA. For some dumb reason you think your failure on DACA will work in your favor in 2018.
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 3:07PM
Steve Williams
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You know Steve, President Trump appears to be realizing what the rest of Washington has already come to terms with: A deal to protect “dreamers” from deportation is dead.
I believe that the president is recognizing that hundreds of thousands of sympathetic young immigrants could be deported under his watch, he's on a tear to blame Democrats for a deal's falling through. Trump has declared the deal dead and then blamed Democrats for it at least three times in the past 24 hours.
A question was asked: “Which party would Americans hold responsible if Congress can’t protect ‘dreamers’ in time?
The survey says The Republican Party at 56% would be blamed for not protecting The Dreamers.
26% of The Democrats would be held if Congress can’t protect “DREAMERS”
16% Don’t know.
Trump, people like you Steve and the Republican Party will go down in history for not taking the responsibility for not protecting the Dreams.
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 5:51PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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DACA is President Obama's baby. That makes it the Democrats baby and Democrats will suffer the consequences for throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 6:19PM
Steve Williams
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Let me ask you this question Steve, "Is The House, The Senate and The White House in Republicans control at this present time?"
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 7:38PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The House and the Senate seem to be under control of the Big Four.
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 7:53PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, I did not ask you, what it seems like, now did I? All you are describing is The War Between The Republicans.
For the second time The Question is: "Is The House, The Senate and The White House in Republicans control at this present time?"
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 8:20PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Steve, did this not happen: One of the proposals, by a bipartisan group of senators, offered a compromise that would have shielded Dreamers, financed Trump’s demands for money to build his coveted border wall with Mexico, and tightened restrictions on legal immigration in general. Eight Republicans joined most Democrats in backing that plan, but it fell short after the White House threatened a veto and GOP leaders opposed it.
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 8:24PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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That's correct Ron. The Democrats didn't give the President what he wanted, because the DACA kids are just pawns to them. The DACA kids now understand this.
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 8:39PM
Steve Williams
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Don't you see that the White House threatened a veto and GOP Grand Old Party (Republican Party). leaders opposed it?
I know that you should get the answer right after this, For the third time The Question is Steve: "Is The House, The Senate and The White House in Republicans control at this present time?"
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 8:59PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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What did the GOP leaders oppose? The Democrat bill?
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 9:19PM
Steve Williams
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WOW!!!! How in the HELL did you get this answer wrong Steve or you can't acknowledge the out come of revealing the truth.
That is the way heathens act.
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 9:28PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Explain your question Ron. What the hell are saying? Opposed WHAT!
"Don't you see that the White House threatened a veto and GOP Grand Old Party (Republican Party). leaders opposed it?"
Monday, April 2nd 2018 at 10:05PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, did this not happen?: "One of the proposals, by a bipartisan group of senators, offered a compromise that would have shielded Dreamers, financed Trump’s demands for money to build his coveted border wall with Mexico, and tightened restrictions on legal immigration in general. Eight Republicans joined most Democrats in backing that plan, but it fell short after the White House threatened a veto and GOP leaders opposed it.
How soon do we forget this material, when you have nothing to say on the behalf of The wrong doing and LIES from this Trump Administration.
Do you remember NOW?
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 10:06AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I can think of two possible interpretations of your question Ron. 1) the GOP leaders opposed the Democratic proposal, or 2) the GOP leaders opposed the President's veto. It's up to you Ron to explain your meaning.
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 12:35PM
Steve Williams
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I only presented one prospective to concert Steve and that is the proposals, by a bipartisan group of senators.
I trust you do know what bipartisan means, right?
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 2:23PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I know what YOU mean by bipartisan. 8 Republicans on a Democrat bill doesn't make it bipartisan, by anyone's understanding of "bipartisan".
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 3:48PM
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The definition, meaning and durability of partisan identification is the subject of continued academic debate and is frequently at issue among political pollsters, but there is general agreement that partisan attachments are basically stable, although voting choices can vary over time.
While those who call themselves independents now may not have always done so, or continue to, they do represent a distinct group in American politics today, with demonstrable attitudinal and behavioral differences with those who embrace a "Democratic" or "Republican" label. In this poll, six in 10 independents said they have always thought of themselves that way.
And how many independents are there?
Through the 1950s and 1960s, about a quarter of adults identified themselves as independents in the NES. That percentage first hit 30 in 1968 and averaged about a third throughout the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s. This decade, the NES estimate of the number of independents has crept toward four in 10, with 39 percent calling themselves independents in the 2004 study.
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 3:54PM
Steve Williams
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This is what I mean by bipartisan of or involving the agreement or cooperation of two political parties that usually oppose each other's policies.
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 4:35PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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“A lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of DACA,” Trump told the traveling press pool. “They had a great chance. The Democrats blew it.”
Wasn't the cut off dates that defines what a dreamers means as children born here in the U.S. by Mexican parents was meant for the children born before June 15, 2007?
If that is the case, what is Trump talking about: "A lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of DACA." THAT IS THE LIE RIGHT THERE.
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 4:47PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I don't share your delusions of bipartisanship Ron. FOUR votes were taken, NO solution was agreed to, and DACA is still in limbo, because Congress, not the President, has failed to do their job.
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 6:53PM
Steve Williams
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“A lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of DACA,” Trump told the traveling press pool. “They had a great chance. The Democrats blew it.”
Wasn't the cut off dates that defines what a dreamer means as children born here in the U.S. by Mexican parents was meant for the children born before June 15, 2007?
Can you refute what I just said?
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 10:16PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Your video doesn't answer that question.
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 11:40PM
Steve Williams
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You know Steve, I know that you feel that you are on the wrong side and can't explain your support for this administration, with that said. this Quote: "A lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of DACA,” Trump told the traveling press pool. “They had a great chance. The Democrats blew it.” --- Donald J Trump
That was found in this video report Steve, so stop that LIE NOW!!!
Now Steve, here's the answer to, Who are the Dreamers?
Those protected under Daca are known as “Dreamers” – by the time Trump announced his decision to rescind the program, 787,580 had been granted approval. To apply, they must have been younger than 31 on 15 June 2012, when the program began, and “undocumented”, lacking legal immigration status. They must have arrived in the US before turning 16 and lived there continuously since June 2007. Most Dreamers are from Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras and the largest numbers live in California, Texas, Florida and New York. They range in age from 15 to 36, according to the White House.
So Trump told you another LIE. Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (Dream) DREAMS are already here and they are not running to American to join The Dreamers Status, That too is a LIE.
Now supporter of Trump, can you refute what I just said?
Wednesday, April 4th 2018 at 10:20AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I never disputed what was reported about what Trump said. YOUR LIE.
I don't care about the details of DACA that are not mentioned in your video. YOUR LIE.
What I and others want is for there to be NO MORE CHILDHOOD ARRIVALS. You don't want to deal with the ones already here AND you want more of them to keep coming here.
Wednesday, April 4th 2018 at 2:13PM
Steve Williams
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Then why did you tell that LIE that this Video doesn't answer that question. Now when I point out to you, the content information that supports my findings then you want to say: "I don't care about the details of DACA that are not mentioned in your video. YOUR LIE.
Steve, what I did was to show you that Trump LIED to you, his supporters and The American People with this statement: "A lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of DACA,” THAT IS THE LIE.
STEVE, A wall wont stop CHILDHOOD ARRIVALS or DRUGS with a wall, when their are two oceans on both sides of the border. What our leadership, here in the United States needs to do, is to start building bridges because we are not in this world all by ourselves and big business along the southern border can continue to make profit using illegal migrant works.
Wednesday, April 4th 2018 at 4:00PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Here's the exchange Ron. I answered the first question truthfully. I ignored the second question truthfully, because it makes no sense to refute unverified data.
“A lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of DACA,” Trump told the traveling press pool. “They had a great chance. The Democrats blew it.”
Wasn't the cut off dates that defines what a dreamer means as children born here in the U.S. by Mexican parents was meant for the children born before June 15, 2007?
Can you refute what I just said?
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 10:16PM
Deacon Ron Gray
Your video doesn't answer that question.
Tuesday, April 3rd 2018 at 11:40PM
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Wednesday, April 4th 2018 at 4:30PM
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Beneficiaries of the proposed DREAM Act would have had to meet the following requirements:
They were younger than 18 years old on the date of their initial entry to the United States
Have proof of having arrived in the United States before age 16[4] (Dream Act of 2017, S.1615, Sec.3(b)(1)(B), and HR3440, Sec.3(b)(1)(B)).
Have proof of residence in the United States for at least four consecutive years since their date of arrival
If male, have registered with the Selective Service
Be between the ages of 12 and 35 at the time of bill enactment
Have graduated from an American high school, obtained a GED, or been admitted to an institution of higher education
Be of good moral character.
That was to easy to look up, Steve. WOW!!!
Wednesday, April 4th 2018 at 6:52PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Okay, now tell me why you want to continue deferring action for these childhood arrivals?
Wednesday, April 4th 2018 at 8:02PM
Steve Williams
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I have shown you that Trump told you LIE about DACA Being killed by The Democratic Party.
Wednesday, April 4th 2018 at 9:12PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The voters will pass judgement in November.
Thursday, April 5th 2018 at 3:27AM
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Don't you see that Trump has been LYING to you Steve? Can't you see that?
That is right and this administration is worried about the blue wave and the lost of The Senate. I agree, The voters will,. pass judgement in November.
Thursday, April 5th 2018 at 5:40PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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And you are worried the Trump train will roll on.
Thursday, April 5th 2018 at 9:30PM
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If I were you Ron, I'd get involved and campaign for your chosen candidate. I plan to do whatever I can to help defeat the Democrat running in my district, who wants to take away my AR.
Thursday, April 5th 2018 at 9:35PM
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Don't you see that Trump has been LYING to you Steve? Can't you see that? YOUR REPLY: And you are worried the Trump train will roll on.
LIES AND ALL. We will soon see.
Thursday, April 5th 2018 at 10:00PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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It's half a year away Ron. Half a year of Democratic blunders and fecklessness to go.
Thursday, April 5th 2018 at 10:23PM
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The Republican Party is losing seats right now and they will lose more, like the lost of The Senate and The House because of the LIES of the administration. That is a FACT and you can fell the weakness in the war between the Republican Party.
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 12:35AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Well Ron, you and your MSNBC Gods DID accurately predict the 2016 Presidential election, right?
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 4:49AM
Steve Williams
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As the Republican war continues...
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 5:01AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Remember Ron, 40% of Americans reject both the Republican AND Democrat labels.
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 7:32AM
Steve Williams
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The republicans has the power to come together over a Republican agenda but the Republicans can't even do that RIGHT.
As the war between the Republican Party continues.
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 10:55AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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As your obsession with the Republicans continues...
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 11:52AM
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Everyday you wake each morning their is chaos brewing with the Trump Republicans are at WAR with the main steam Republicans.
Now do you want to talk about President Trump vents about immigration in tweets NOW or what?
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 12:08PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Trump apparently broke up the caravan.
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 12:44PM
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Trump broke up nothing and he has no plan what he will do with the military either.
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 3:41PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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President Trump is doing just what we elected him to do. The caravan is finished and the National Guards are there to meet those that think they have as much right to America as its citizens do. I know that makes you sad Ron, for some sad reason.
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 4:45PM
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Steve, you can’t even stay on topic and you have shot your own credibility with those damn LIES you tell. You are truly a Trump supporter.
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 7:57PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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So what's the topic Ron? Trump venting but not WHAT he's venting ABOUT?
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 8:15PM
Steve Williams
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Why don’t you review This video material and you wouldn’t know without a doubt what the subect is.
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 9:05PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The first tweet was about the caravan. The president put an end to that.
Friday, April 6th 2018 at 9:38PM
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Hey Steve, don't you see that Trump got the solution, looking for a problem. Border Crossings has been fewer and fewer each year.
Saturday, April 7th 2018 at 12:20AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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11 million illegal aliens are in the U.S. and you want to pretend there's no problem.
Saturday, April 7th 2018 at 12:39AM
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What kind of problem do 11 million make Steve?
What is your solution, a wall?
Saturday, April 7th 2018 at 5:28AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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11 million persons that jumped the line and bypassed the security procedures of the United States, is the problem Ron. The solution is the Four Pillars, the National Guards, the Executive Order the President signed yesterday, et al.
Saturday, April 7th 2018 at 7:13AM
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HEY STEVE, these 11 million people are here already and no National Guard Unit would address that problem. You and people like you have been LIED to on this subject.
"A lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of DACA,” Trump told the traveling press pool. “They had a great chance. The Democrats blew it.” --- Donald J Trump
That Steve is what Trump said and now you are all over the place trying to change the subject but even you can't change what Trump has said.
Now Steve, here's the answer to, Who are the Dreamers?
Those protected under Daca are known as “Dreamers” – by the time Trump announced his decision to rescind the program, 787,580 had been granted approval. To apply, they must have been younger than 31 on 15 June 2012, when the program began, and “undocumented”, lacking legal immigration status. They must have arrived in the US before turning 16 and lived there continuously since June 2007. Most Dreamers are from Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras and the largest numbers live in California, Texas, Florida and New York. They range in age from 15 to 36, according to the White House.
So Trump told you another LIE. Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (Dream) DREAMERS are already here and they are not running to America to join The Dreamers Status, That too is a LIE.
Now supporter of Trump, can you refute what I just said? Do the research to find out the results.
Saturday, April 7th 2018 at 6:30PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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How are you going to stop NEW childhood arrivals Ron, or don't you WANT to?
Saturday, April 7th 2018 at 6:54PM
Steve Williams
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At this point Steve, I am focus on this damn LIE that was said by this president.
"A lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of DACA,” Trump told the traveling press pool. “They had a great chance. The Democrats blew it.” --- Donald J Trump
Was that a LIE or what Steve?
Saturday, April 7th 2018 at 8:07PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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No Ron, it was the truth. 300,000 illegal aliens were apprehended last year crossing the border. They brought their children with them, knowing that their children will get to stay, because it was "no fault of their own". That's the precedent that Obama set with DACA. As long as Congress fails to act on immigration, illegal children will continue to brought. BECAUSE OF DACA.
Saturday, April 7th 2018 at 9:19PM
Steve Williams
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If you think that Trump was telling you and people like you the truth about this:
"A lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of DACA,” Trump told the traveling press pool. “They had a great chance. The Democrats blew it.” --- Donald J Trump
Then why are you over looking the requirements for the DACA program.
Here it is again for your review:
Who are the Dreamers?
Those protected under Daca are known as “Dreamers” – by the time Trump announced his decision to rescind the program, 787,580 had been granted approval. To apply, they must have been younger than 31 on 15 June 2012, when the program began, and “undocumented”, lacking legal immigration status. They must have arrived in the US before turning 16 and lived there continuously since June 2007. Most Dreamers are from Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras and the largest numbers live in California, Texas, Florida and New York. They range in age from 15 to 36, according to the White House.
Steve, you they must have been younger than 31 on 15 June 2012, not in 2016, 2017, or Today, that my friend is the LIE Trump told you and the die hard Trump supporters like you.
Let me ask you this question. Do you understand this brief definition of what is a DACA requirement to who is DACA recipient?
Saturday, April 7th 2018 at 9:46PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The illegals are taking advantage of DACA because it worked under Obama and Congress has left it in place. That's the precedent that gives them the advantage of illegals. They know that people like you will ALWAYS support the lawless.
Sunday, April 8th 2018 at 12:26AM
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So Steve, you don't care about the rules and regulations to be a DACA recipient. If you do, then you know the you can’t take avantage of the DACA, that is the LIE you and people like your brilliant personally is promoting.
Sunday, April 8th 2018 at 4:38PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The President also knows the DACA rules and he knows that the Democrats don't give a **** about the current DACA recipients OR preventing another DACA under a future administration.
Sunday, April 8th 2018 at 6:26PM
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If you say that the President knows about the rules and regulations to be a DACA recipient and then tells you this: ""A lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of DACA,” Trump told the traveling press pool. “They had a great chance. The Democrats blew it.” --- Donald J Trump. Then you should know that what Trump has said, could not be the truth.
Sunday, April 8th 2018 at 8:10PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You've missed the meaning of "take advantage of".
Sunday, April 8th 2018 at 9:07PM
Steve Williams
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Clear the record then Steve since you say I missed the meaning of this term "take advantage of".
Here's what I do know: "They (DREAMERS) must have arrived in the US before turning 16 and lived there continuously since June 2007. Breaking News Steve, it is now April 2018 and the deadline was set in June 2007.
Don't drink that cool aid Steve, drop this LIE NOW.
Monday, April 9th 2018 at 10:26AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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DACA is not just an Executive Order, it's a 2018 election issue. The meaning of "take advantage of" is like this: Can the Democrats successfuly TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DACA to win the House in 2018? If they win the House in 2018 will DACA prove to BE AN ADVANTAGE to illegal aliens in 2019?
Monday, April 9th 2018 at 11:25AM
Steve Williams
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You must did not understand the requirement of being a DACA recipient, do you?
The meaning of "take advantage of. Steve, you can feel the pressure of this war between The Republicans and you can't do anything to stop this Blue Wave, that is going to take back the country and make the world a safer place to live "LIFE."
Monday, April 9th 2018 at 11:47PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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You all do love your safe spaces, but we all want no part of your woosie world.
Tuesday, April 10th 2018 at 4:25AM
Steve Williams
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Later steve... I can not explain the actions of The Trump Administration neither.
Tuesday, April 10th 2018 at 4:31PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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That's never stopped you from trying.
Tuesday, April 10th 2018 at 6:46PM
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