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Rachel told us about the AMI deal but she should have read it first.
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 9:08AM
Steve Williams
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From what I see from your link in my opinion is a agreement at AMI admitted that they made a payment of $150.000 payment in connection with the candidate for a presidential campaign in order to ensure that the women did not come out with a damaging allegation to TRUMP before the 2016 presidential election." It looks like AMI played a very important to shut up those allegation and a get out of jail plea, Steve.
Now what did you get from your link?
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 12:06PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The first thing that jumps out at me Ron is point 3, about that first meeting in August 2015.
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 12:12PM
Steve Williams
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That is great Steve but what did Rachel in her report?
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 12:21PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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She referenced parts of this Statement of Admitted Facts but missed this very important date: AUGUST, TWO-THOUSAND FIFTEEN.
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 1:07PM
Steve Williams
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So, you agree with is report up in till this very important date of AUGUST, TWO-THOUSAND FIFTEEN?
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 1:31PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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This report does not go in order Ron. You need to look at the entirety, including where the Cohen tape fits in, and the details the SDNY tried to hide. Have you figured out where the Cohen tape goes in the timeline?
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 3:52PM
Steve Williams
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The tape was recorded some time during the campaign, if memory serves Steve, I would say some time in September 2016.
BREAKING News confirms sometimes in 2015 talking about fixing these matters. long before the Hollywood tapes.
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 5:12PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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NBC claims "Trump was in the room." Now Cohen's tape was made after August 10, when AMI paid McDougal, and September 30, when Pecker signed the assignment of rights document to Cohen's company. Why did Pecker immediatel after, tell Cohen the deal was off? Cohen never did pay Pecker.
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 5:30PM
Steve Williams
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Do you think their was a batch deal, a reneging of a deal between Cohen and Pecker?
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 7:09PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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More likely this is what changed Pecker's mind.
On October 7, 2016, during the 2016 United States presidential election, The Washington Post published a video and accompanying article about then-presidential candidate Donald Trump and television host Billy Bush having "an extremely lewd conversation about women" in 2005.
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 8:11PM
Steve Williams
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So Ron, the criminals in this case were only AMI and Cohen. AMI was let off because they gave up evidence against their co-conspirator, Cohen. Donald Trump had nothing to do with it. Donald Trump said to Cohen, "We won't pay with cash?" because paying with cash would have been the expected means of dealing with the situation. The candidate himself can spend whatever he wants on his own campaign, whether to fly all over the country in his own plane, which no one has thought to call a crime, or to pay a woman to stay quiet about an affair.
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 8:22PM
Steve Williams
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Did you here today’s breaking news, that Trump was in the room giving Cohen orders to pay his girlfriend CASH. Sounds like Trump was involved and knew about the payments to me.
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 8:31PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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It could have been that Trump was the third person in the August 2015 meeting. It makes no difference if it was or it wasn't. As far as paying cash, that was the way it should have been done. Cohen's "financing" through his shell company was a shady deal and candidate Trump's surprise at Cohen's suggestion confirms it. Your people can try to spin it all you want, there is no crime on Trump's part. The sad thing is SDNY is just as shady as Cohen.
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 9:13PM
Steve Williams
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Don't you understand that if he was that third person in the room, then that proves that he was LYING to the American people and he did not want his wife cheating known to you and the people that supports him known before the election. Don't you feel that you have been LIED too or do that make any difference neither to you Steve?
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 9:49PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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He may have been in the room or not, but what was the lie, you mean on the plane? I have the same opinion I did when Clinton was impeached. I expect anyone to lie about affairs, it's normal behavior, AND IT'S NONE OF MY DAMN BUSINESS. Oh I forgot Ron, you are one of those moral exemplars, like any number of MSNBC hosts, or James Comey I guess.
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 10:10PM
Steve Williams
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Since you haven't posted this news that conveniently broke in time for Deadline White House, I guess I will Ron:
The "statement of admitted facts" says that AMI admitted making a $150,000 payment "in concert with the campaign," and says that Pecker, Cohen and "at least one other member of the campaign" were in the meeting. According to a person familiar with the matter, the "other member" was Trump.
Trump was first identified as attending the meeting by The Wall Street Journal.
A spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York, which investigated Cohen's hush-money payments to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, declined to comment.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-d...
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 10:28PM
Steve Williams
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By Joe Palazzolo, Nicole Hong, Michael Rothfeld, Rebecca Davis O’Brien and Rebecca Ballhaus
Nov. 9, 2018 1:03 p.m. ET
As a presidential candidate in August 2015, Donald Trump huddled with a longtime friend, media executive David Pecker, in his cluttered 26th floor Trump Tower office and made a request.
What can you do to help my campaign? he asked, according to people familiar with the meeting.
Mr. Pecker, chief executive of American Media Inc., offered...
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-...
Thursday, December 13th 2018 at 10:35PM
Steve Williams
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MY QUESTION: Don't you understand that if he was that third person in the room, then that proves that he was LYING to the American people and he did not want his wife cheating known to you and the people that supports him known before the election. Don't you feel that you have been LIED too or do that make any difference neither to you Steve?
YOUR REPLY: I have the same opinion I did when Clinton was impeached. I expect anyone to lie about affairs, it's normal behavior, AND IT'S NONE OF MY DAMN BUSINESS.
MY RESPONSE: This is the man you put your trust in to run the country and that is "NONE YOUR DAMN BUSINESS," WOW!!! Would you have voted for Trump if the truth got out before the election?
Now for this comment: Oh I forgot Ron, you are one of those moral exemplars, like any number of MSNBC hosts, or James Comey I guess.
MY REPLY: No Steve, I am a God fearing man and was taught cheating on your spouse is not the right thing to do, even TRUMP knew that and that is the reason why we are talking about this subject NOW, It is all about the cover-up and the LIES told to me, you and the American people.
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 9:00AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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That explains it then Ron. I am not a "God-fearing man". God is correct that faithfulness is better but he also is well aware of the foibles of his human creatures.
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 10:03AM
Steve Williams
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And NONE of our politicians are such moral exemplars as you Ron.
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 10:14AM
Steve Williams
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MY COMMENT: No Steve, I am a God fearing man and was taught cheating on your spouse is not the right thing to do, even TRUMP knew that and that is the reason why we are talking about this subject NOW, It is all about the cover-up and the LIES told to me, you and the American people.
YOUR REPLY: That explains it then Ron. I am not a "God-fearing man". God is correct that faithfulness is better but he also is well aware of the foibles of his human creatures.
MY REPLY: So, you don't fear God, WOW!!! No wonder you don't mind being LIED too in effort to protect the wrong doings of this administration.
YOUR COMMENT: And NONE of our politicians are such moral exemplars as you Ron.
MY REPLY: We will soon see after Jan 3rd if our politicians will right this WRONG and hold this Administration accountable for these actions. Time will tell if you are right or not. Stay Tune!!!
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 10:38AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I'm a buddhist Ron. I follow the phenomenal law, not some fiction.
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 11:07AM
Steve Williams
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I know that you are a buddhist but do you really think and believe that your religion condones cheating on your pregnant wife with hookers and then LYING about that to the American people is phenomenal qualities?
Steve, Adultery and LYING is hard to believe is apart of the Noble Eightfold Path or is it?
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 12:24PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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My practice is more philosophy than religion. That's the first thing you need to understand Ron. It is the observation and contemplation of all phenomena. I neither condone nor condemn Trump's s*x life because it doesn't have a thing to do with his Presidential qualifications. The same was true of Bill Clinton.
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 2:24PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, My question is: is Adultery and LYING apart of the Noble Eightfold Path or is it?
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 2:35PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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The Noble Eightfold Path (Pali: ariyo aṭṭhaṅgiko maggo; Sanskrit: āryāṣṭāṅgamārga)[1] is an early summary of the path of Buddhist practices leading to liberation from samsara, the painful cycle of rebirth.[2][3]
I'm not a practioner of this form of Buddhism so I don't know the answer. I do know that "Adultery and LYING" have nothing to do with Presidential qualities. ALL humans lie Ron, including you and I. Some of us commit adultery and we PAY FOR IT.
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 3:09PM
Steve Williams
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Why did you say this: “I do know that "Adultery and LYING" have nothing to do with Presidential qualities?
I never asked you such of a thing, I never asked you that.
What I did asked was: is Adultery and LYING apart of the Noble Eightfold Path or is it? Since you don't know about this form of Buddhist
Right understanding (Samma ditthi)
Right thought (Samma sankappa)
Right speech (Samma vaca)
Right action (Samma kammanta)
Right livelihood (Samma ajiva)
Right effort (Samma vayama)
Right mindfulness (Samma sati)
Right concentration (Samma samadhi)
What form of Buddhism do you practice?
What do your form of Buddhism Has to say about “Adultery and LYING?"
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 4:58PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Ron, I follow the great vehicle known as the Lotus Sutra. It doesn't say anything about "Adultery and LYING". It teaches about "the true aspect of all phenomena".
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 6:10PM
Steve Williams
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Thank you for your reply Steve: Quick question, since you say that Lotus Sutra doesn't say anything about "Adultery and LYING" Do you think that Adultery and LYING" manifest your Buddhahood, to achieve a life state of supreme victory?
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 6:27PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Adultery NO. Lying, it depends whether you are lying for a beneficial cause.
Friday, December 14th 2018 at 8:02PM
Steve Williams
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What beneficial cause is Trump LYING for Steve that you would support such a man?
Saturday, December 15th 2018 at 10:48PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I don't always know for what reason Trump lies. I was answering for myself Ron. It's something the Lotus Sutra does talk about, for example:
At that time the Buddha said to Shariputra, “Did I not tell you earlier that when the buddhas, the world-honored ones, cite various causes and conditions and use similes, parables, and other expressions, employing expedient means to preach the Law, it is all for the sake of supreme perfect enlightenment? Whatever is preached is all for the sake of converting the bodhisattvas.
“Moreover, Shariputra, I too will now make use of similes and parables to further clarify this principle. For through similes and parables those who are wise can obtain understanding.
“Shariputra, suppose that in a certain town in a certain country there was a very rich man. He was far along in years and his wealth was beyond measure. He had many fields, houses, and menservants. His own house was big and rambling, but it had only one gate. A great many people—a hundred, two hundred, perhaps as many as five hundred—lived in the house. The halls and rooms were old and decaying, the walls crumbling, the pillars rotten at their base, and the beams and rafters crooked and aslant.
“At that time a fire suddenly broke out on all sides, spreading through the rooms of the house. The sons of the rich man, ten, twenty, perhaps thirty, were inside the house. When the rich man saw the huge flames leaping up on every side, he was greatly alarmed and fearful and thought to himself, I can escape to safety through the flaming gate, but my sons are inside the burning house enjoying themselves and playing games, unaware, p.92unknowing, without alarm or fear. The fire is closing in on them, suffering and pain threaten them, yet their minds have no sense of loathing or peril and they do not think of trying to escape!
“Shariputra, this rich man thought to himself, I have strength in my body and arms. I can wrap them in a robe or place them on a bench and carry them out of the house. And then again he thought, This house has only one gate, and moreover it is narrow and small. My sons are very young, they have no understanding, and they love their games, being so engrossed in them that they are likely to be burned in the fire. I must explain to them why I am fearful and alarmed. The house is already in flames and I must get them out quickly and not let them be burned up in the fire!
“Having thought in this way, he followed his plan and called to all his sons, saying, ‘You must come out at once!’ But though the father was moved by pity and gave good words of instruction, the sons were absorbed in their games and unwilling to heed him. They had no alarm, no fright, and in the end no mind to leave the house. Moreover, they did not understand what the fire was, what the house was, what danger was. They merely raced about this way and that in play and looked at their father without heeding him.
“At that time the rich man had this thought: The house is already in flames from this huge fire. If I and my sons do not get out at once, we are certain to be burned. I must now invent some expedient means that will make it possible for the children to escape harm.
“The father understood his sons and knew what various toys and curious objects each child customarily liked and what would delight them. And so he said to them, ‘The kind of playthings you like are rare and hard to find. If you do not take them when you can, you will surely regret it later. For example, things like these goat-carts, deer-carts, and ox-carts. They are outside the gate now where you can play with them. So you must come out of this burning house at once. Then whatever ones you want, I will give them all to you!’
p.93“At that time, when the sons heard their father telling them about these rare playthings, because such things were just what they had wanted, each felt emboldened in heart and, pushing and shoving one another, they all came wildly dashing out of the burning house.
“At this time the rich man, seeing that his sons had gotten out safely and all were seated on the open ground at the crossroads and were no longer in danger, was greatly relieved and his mind danced for joy. At that time each of the sons said to his father, ‘The playthings you promised us earlier, the goat-carts and deer-carts and ox-carts—please give them to us now!’
“Shariputra, at that time the rich man gave to each of his sons a large carriage of uniform size and quality. The carriages were tall and spacious and adorned with numerous jewels. Railings ran all around them and bells hung from all four sides. Canopies were stretched over the tops, which were also decorated with an assortment of precious jewels. Ropes of jewels twined around, fringes of flowers hung down, and layers of cushions were spread inside, on which were placed vermilion pillows. Each carriage was drawn by a white ox, pure and clean in hide, handsome in form and of great strength, capable of pulling the carriage smoothly and properly at a pace fast as the wind. In addition, there were many grooms and servants to attend and guard the carriage.
“What was the reason for this? This rich man’s wealth was limitless and he had many kinds of storehouses that were all filled and overflowing. And he thought to himself, There is no end to my possessions. It would not be right if I were to give my sons small carriages of inferior make. These little boys are all my sons and I love them without partiality. I have countless numbers of large carriages adorned with seven kinds of gems. I should be fair-minded and give one to each of my sons. I should not show any discrimination. Why? Because even if I distributed these things of mine to every person in the whole country I would still not exhaust them, much less could I do so by giving them to my sons!
“At that time each of the sons mounted his large carriage, p.94gaining something he had never had before, something he had originally never expected. Shariputra, what do you think of this? When this rich man impartially handed out to his sons these big carriages adorned with rare jewels, was he guilty of falsehood or not?”
Shariputra said, “No, World-Honored One. This rich man simply made it possible for his sons to escape the peril of fire and preserve their lives. He did not commit a falsehood. Why do I say this? Because if they were able to preserve their lives, then they had already obtained a plaything of sorts. And how much more so when, through an expedient means, they were rescued from that burning house! World-Honored One, even if the rich man had not given them the tiniest carriage, he would still not be guilty of falsehood. Why? Because this rich man had earlier made up his mind that he would employ an expedient means to cause his sons to escape. Using a device of this kind was no act of falsehood. How much less so, then, when the rich man knew that his wealth was limitless and he intended to enrich and benefit his sons by giving each of them a large carriage.”
Saturday, December 15th 2018 at 11:58PM
Steve Williams
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Steve I would be a fool to ask you why Trump LIES, I never ask you that at all. Now what I did ask you was: What beneficial cause is Trump LYING for you Steve that you would support such a man?
Sunday, December 16th 2018 at 12:25AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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This is what you asked me Ron. There is NOTHING in your question OR my answer, about President Trump.
"Do you think that Adultery and LYING" manifest your Buddhahood, to achieve a life state of supreme victory?"
Sunday, December 16th 2018 at 9:19AM
Steve Williams
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ALL DAY LONG Ron, I listen to MSNBC LIES. Anyone who counts someone elses LIES, tells me they have counted 6000 LIES, is a MASTER LIAR!
Sunday, December 16th 2018 at 9:22AM
Steve Williams
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Quick question, since you say that Lotus Sutra doesn't say anything about "Adultery and LYING" Do you think that Adultery and LYING" manifest your Buddhahood, to achieve a life state of supreme victory?
YOUR REPLY: Adultery NO. Lying, it depends whether you are lying for a beneficial cause.
Then I asked you this: "What beneficial cause is Trump LYING for Steve that you would support such a man??
YOUR REPLY: I don't always know for what reason Trump lies.
MY REPLY: Steve I would be a fool to ask you why Trump LIES, I never ask you that at all. Now what I did ask you was: What beneficial cause is Trump LYING for you Steve that you would support such a man?
YOUR REPLY: This is what you asked me Ron. There is NOTHING in your question OR my answer, about President Trump.
"Do you think that Adultery and LYING" manifest your Buddhahood, to achieve a life state of supreme victory?"
STEVE: You had already answer that question when you said this: Adultery NO. Lying, it depends whether you are lying for a beneficial cause.
Now back to answering my question: Now what I did ask you was: What beneficial cause is Trump LYING for you Steve that you would support such a man?
Sunday, December 16th 2018 at 3:31PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I'm not talking about Trump's lying Ron. Trump is not a person who desires to "manifest your Buddhahood, to achieve a life state of supreme victory?"
Sunday, December 16th 2018 at 3:52PM
Steve Williams
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There is no reason to be obsessed with lying Ron. In December of 2018 there is hardly anyone NOT lying.
Sunday, December 16th 2018 at 3:55PM
Steve Williams
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Steve, now that you know that Trump The leader of the free world has been LYING to the American people on his dealing with Russia, having this elaborate scheme to shut down reports of having Not ONE but TWO adulterous affairs on his then pregnant wife and their are more stories out their, Why do you still support that man?
Sunday, December 16th 2018 at 4:35PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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Obviously, I'm not such a moral EXEMPLAR as you Ron. Do you approve of this lie, started by Cohen and now spreading all over MSNBC, that Trump made these payments because of the Access Hollywood tape coming out?
Sunday, December 16th 2018 at 5:37PM
Steve Williams
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YOUR STATEMENT: Obviously, I'm not such a moral EXEMPLAR as you Ron.
MY REPLY: So now you are telling the people here on Black in America that you can't do any better for yourself or you don't want to do any better for yourself, that is the reason why you support Trump?
Why not strive to better yourself and stead of settling for being at the bottom of human existence Steve? WOW!!!
So you are tell us that you have to be that low to be a supporter of TRUMP? I am sorry you think that way.
Sunday, December 16th 2018 at 10:04PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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I said nothing about you being a SUPERIOR moral exemplar Ron. I have pointed you to the superior way, the Great Vehicle Sutra Called the Lotus Flower of the Wonderful Law.
Sunday, December 16th 2018 at 10:24PM
Steve Williams
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I still would like to know, "Do you approve of this lie, started by Cohen and now spreading all over MSNBC, that Trump made these payments because of the Access Hollywood tape coming out? "
Sunday, December 16th 2018 at 10:26PM
Steve Williams
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No!!! What I do support is the FACT that Trump had this elaborate scheme to shut down reports of having Not ONE but TWO adulterous affairs on his then pregnant wife.
Tuesday, December 18th 2018 at 6:20PM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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There was nothing elaborate about it Ron. He planned ahead for it, he knew these women were opportunists, as were the media. That's exactly what we want and need in a President.
Wednesday, December 19th 2018 at 12:03AM
Steve Williams
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We need a President to set an example to the rest of the Free World that having this elaborate scheme to shut down reports of having Not ONE but TWO adulterous affairs on his then pregnant wife is not acceptable to the American tradition and The American Way of Life.
Tell me something Steve, if you would have know about the pay off to, Not ONE but TWO adulterous affairs on his then pregnant wife before the 2016 presidential election, would you have voted for Trump?
Would you have a adulterous affairs on your wife, if not WHY?
Wednesday, December 19th 2018 at 9:51AM
Dea. Ron Gray Sr.
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