A question to the Black Christians and the Black Muslims.

Harry, Hello
We have had that type of person in a Black American in the Hon. Elijah Muhammad. He was born in Georgia, to my recollection. Georgia is a state of America. But, there are differances from him to you. Elijah Muhammad would speak, then there would be schools and mosque; Elijah Muhammad would speak, then there would be brothers on the streets and sisters baking goods at restaurants; there would be sisters covered yet stylish; Elijah Muhammad would speak, then there would be world champions and famous orators like Malcolm X; Elijah Muhammad would speak, then there would be farmland, cattle and fish imported from Peru; and I could go on ! But, with you, Harry.......Harry Watley speak, there is smoke; Harry Watley speak there is nothing; Harry Watley speak, there is emptiness; Harry Watley speak, there is nothing you can see, smell or taste. All we get is your mouth on a blog.

Hello Abraham,

You said this, “Elijah Muhammad would speak, then there would be schools and mosque;”

I understand the point you are making. However, I know that when Elijah’s teacher, Dr. Fard Muhammad left Elijah it took some years before the first school was established and many more years to have acquired as many followers, am I right.

Now, on the down side of things if Elijah was anointed of God and not a man as Dr. Fard Muhammad was I am pretty sure Black Americans would have been a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way, am I right.

Tell me what you think.

The Nation of Islam suffers from what most Black African nations suffer from. Self Grandisement at the top ahead of the interest of the people and lack of interest in math and science technology. Blacks seem more interested in putting on a show. So, I see more putting on a show from the Nation of Islam of today instead of getting down and implementing what the Hon. Elijah Muhammad had in mind. This has provided purpose for my work.

The 2 Billion Muslims in the World, and those who have died since 1430 years ago; do not use paganChristian codes of identification of 'black', 'red', 'yellow', or 'white'.

Our identification is with the First Man Created, Adaam, and that all of his Monotheistic descendants know that we are all Men.................

nation of islam, kkk, pat robertson, rev. jesse, little abraham, harry whatley, etc. suffer from Ignorance of Monotheistic Thought, self grandisement and above all disBelief in the Way of Life of Adaam and all those from Nuh, through Ibraheem, through Musa, through IsaIbnMaryam and many others thru Mohamed(as).

Hello Abraham,

You said this, “I see more putting on a show from the Nation of Islam of today instead of getting down and implementing what the Hon. Elijah Muhammad had in mind. This has provided purpose for my work. “

Well, let me first ask you if you believe that God anointed Mr. Elijah Muhammad as Moses, Prophet Mohammad and I?

Secondly, it seems that Elijah Muhammad is the source of why you feel you are Black America’s new leader to march Black Americans down the same Islamic road as Elijah did, am I right.

Unlike you, no man has provided a purpose for my work. God constantly inspires and guides me.

So, do you believe that God anointed Mr. Elijah Muhammad as God anointed Moses, Prophet Mohammad and I?

Tell me what you think.

Hello Robert,

You said this, “Our identification is with the First Man Created, Adaam, and that all of his Monotheistic descendants know that we are all Men................. The 2 Billion Muslims in the World, and those who have died since 1430 years ago; do not use paganChristian codes of identification of 'black', 'red', 'yellow', or 'white'. “

This is not true Robert since humanity is made up of many different races. The different races must be recognized and not lumped into one race as though humankind is defined as one race, the race of Adam.

Al Quran says that Allah rose up prophets from among their own kinds. Kinds means different races in humanity and that Allah rose up prophets from, am I right. For instance, Prophet Mohammad was Arab. Prophet Jesus was Jewish. Prophet Moses was Israelite. Prophet Harry is aBlack American. Consequentially, prophets are risen up from among their own kinds by Allah, am I right.

You are out of touch and blind because you want to hold on to Al Islam and Prophet Mohammad when in fact I am your genuine prophet, am I right.

Tell me what you think.

The source of my inspiration comes from almighty God Allah. It is the source that was behind the work of the Hon Elijah Muhammad. Harry, your sense of reason is flawed. The Same God, anointed Muhammad of Arabia, Moses and Jesus to name a few. But, this day...is the day of Abraham...And Allah is in charge of my Affairs.

Bro. Robert is so far off with this Adam crap....its hard to pick him up out of the ditch. The Hon. Elijah Muhammad taught us that Adam was the beginning of the White Race.....not the beginning of the Black family of the earth which was before ADAM ...obviously. And as far as Al Islam versus Islam......When I open my Holy Quran and go to Chapter 5 The Food: verse 3 .....it reads

" This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favour on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion",......

Since that is what it says in the Quran...its good enough for me....It clearly says ISLAM

In biology, a RACE is any inbreeding group, including taxonomic subgroups such as subspecies, taxonomically subordinate to a species and superordinate to a subrace and marked by a pre-determined profile of latent factors of hereditary traits.

hereditary traits are based on geography.

The idea to take this and classify the Descendants of Adaam, was Divisive and Incorrect. It was launched by paganChristians to justify their Manifest Destiny of theft, rape and genocide................ONLY

My touch is still good and in 7+ months we should have grown the Family of Adaam in this household. My scoring touch is also very good as I am on my way to schooling some youngsters at the gym.

now as for yourMind ideas, defined only in yourMind---
I AM BLIND, out of touch, and Amazed that you can stay on point this long, kudos to you.

Hello Abraham,

I am not trying to split hairs with you or whole youth to anything, but you did say that Mr. Elijah Muhammad was the purpose of your life. It is understandable to me that you would say that since from a child and going to Muhammad University you were taught to see Elijah as a Messenger of God, which he was not. Everything you are today including your beliefs and perspective of the world is Elijah’s beliefs and perspectives as well.

But now, you are saying that Almighty God Allah is your inspirer. You still drag along the word Allah, which is Arabian, inspired and you got that from Elijah. You need to sit down and take a deep breath and make up your mind whether God or Elijah is inspiring you.

As for me, there is no doubt God constantly inspires and guides me. You have never known me to put anyone between God and myself. God directly came to me the same as when God directly came to Moses and Prophet Mohammad.

Yes, Robert is a very confused man about Al Islam, paganChristian nonsense that he is always saying in the Adam nonsense as well.

The first people that God created were dark skinned people. For these people for hundreds of thousands of years did nothing to advance the quality of their lives and the conservation of the earth. This angered God big-time that God safety net (evolution) kick in, and the rest of the different races came forth and Caucasian people being the last race did what was expected of the dark skinned people to have done.

Your point about Al Islam versus Islam is very well taken. No one can refute you on that since that is the way it is actually translated in the Holy Quran.

Now, I am impressed with your sound thinking. So, let me ask you this question. Do you believe that Master Fard Muhammad came in the person of Allah God?

Tell me what you think.

Hello Robert,

Because you are on your way to the gym to school some youngsters does not make you right. What you are doing is adding to the confusion of these children.

You need to confront the challenges that are presented to you by Abraham and myself and overcome them. For example, one of my challenges is that Allah rolls of prophets among their own kinds. Since you are not an Arab man, why are you embracing Prophet Mohammad when Prophet Mohammad is not of your kinds? As far Abraham what I see as one of his challenges to you is Al Islam versus Islam. Could you overcome these challenges up for us?

Tell me what you think.

Harry,

Almighty God Allah has many affairs of which He is in charge. As God, he has to sustain this universe composed of planets, asteroids, stars and a host of civilizations. There there are the insects and other animals of which He is in charge. Then there is the living cell of which all matter is made of......of which He(Allah) is in charge of.......Then there are individual affairs on Earth. A boy lost his mother and he needs help. A young girl clinging to life needing a kidney. Then muslim are praying in Iraq....muslims are praying in Malaysia....muslims are praying in Britain and Russia that needs help. In fact muslims are praying all over the planet that Allah has to deal with. But though almighty God Allah has many affairs, He took the time to deal with the one lost sheep, Black Americans that had been kidnapped from their homeland. But, he still had to keep in charge of all the universal affairs. So Yes, it is my belief that Allah came to North America as Master Fard Muhammad to leave behind one of our own kind, who knew us, who could talk to us in our own language......Messenger Elijah Muhammad. The rest is history. That knowledge has been very successful for me. It has worked and continues to work. when you deal with me you are dealing with a blessed black man. And I am thankful to almighty God Allah.

Hello Abraham,

So, in short you believe that God changed into a human jumpsuit and appeared as Mr. Master Fard Muhammad to Elijah, am I right. Consequentially, I have the same equal rights as you to say that God changed into a human jumpsuit and appeared as Jesus to Pontius Pilate who sentenced him to be crucified, right. Therefore, this type of irrationality could go on with out ending, am I right.

Now let me switch tracks for a moment. The difference in Islam versus Al Islam I believe is translation. In Arabic it is Al Islam or The Islam and when it was translated into English the Al or The was not necessary. Does it mean the same thing? Absolutely, it does. Thus, your argument as to what you read in the holy Quran verses Al Islam is moot.

However, you presented a good point to Robert and I took the opportunity to clarify your understanding. I hope you would love me for that, okay.

Anyway, what you believe about Mr. Master Fard Muhammad that others have the right to believe things about God as ridiculous as you believe that Mr. Fard Muhammad could be God, am I right. For instance, I could believe that a particular pig on a pig farm could be God in disguise, am I right.

Abraham, the Quran says that Allah begets not, nor is Allah begotten and there is nothing likened unto Allah. I agree 110% with this definition and you ought to as well. Therefore, stop being silly to believe that a man could be God. Abraham, no man could be God neither would God be a man. God chooses a prophet and communicates with that prophet mentally. Each of us prophet describes how God came to us, which is never witness by another human being. Moses described his encounter as a burning bush experience. Prophet Mohammad describes his encounter with Angel Gabriel. I describe my experience mentally.

Nevertheless, God begets not, nor is God begotten and there is nothing like unto God, okay.

Tell me what you think.

The Bridge: Black Thought or African Thought?
By Darryl James

Darryl James
*For Black History Month this year, African descendants all over the world have something to celebrate—the actual making of history.

An historic event many of us thought we’d never see has actually come to be. Barack Obama was sworn in as the forty-fourth President of the United States.

The question that has yet to be answered, and rarely asked, is whether or not this event will change our lives.

I believe that it can only change our lives if we first change our minds.

Instead of discussing some great achievements by Black men or Black women, I’d like to discuss the great achievements that lie ahead of Africans in America. Those great achievements can only occur after we define ourselves with some practicality and foresight.

For example, some dead-brained Negroes claim that Barack Obama is not as important to us since he is the product of a white American mother and an African father. To them, he does not share the history we have, so he is not us.

To them I say, go straight to hell. And if any of their tiny little brains can process the thought, I ask what history do you think Africans have?

When it comes to Black History, most Africans in America start studying sometime around the beginning of the slave trade and bring it through to about the middle of the twentieth century. That’s a very short history for a people with such a rich background.

The problem is that we either define ourselves based on our attachment to America, or based on our attachment to Africa. As a people, we become fragmented, because some of us want no attachment to Africa and some of us want no attachment to America.

Further compounding the problem are two facts: One, that racist Americans (including some self-hating Negroes) want to deny us the birthright to this nation purchased by the blood, sweat and tears of our slave ancestors. Two, that some confused and self-hating Africans want to deny us the birthright to the African continent based on our “impurity,” after being mixed with other races over the centuries.

The argument really comes down to consciousness, because perception is reality. Whatever we perceive ourselves to be comes into existence. Our perception of ourselves does not have to be based on what the Devil’s children in white or black face deliver to us. Our perception of ourselves must be based on whatever we deliver to ourselves.

Personally, I believe that nearly every ethnicity in America except Blacks have it right. Italians are still Italian even if they speak no Italian and have never seen Italy. There are Polish people in this nation who define themselves as such even though the original Polish person in their family came to America four centuries ago.

But what of the African American? We are the only people in this nation who continue to redefine ourselves based on things outside of our consciousness.

Now, I already know that we are not a monolithic people. Some of us will go one way and some will go another. That having been said, if you are not with me, I’d like you to turn away, because I will not be speaking to you or for you.

I split African people from Black people in consciousness only. This is because they have two different ways of thinking. The Black man across the planet has embraced such titles as Negro, Colored, Afro-American, African American, Haitian, Jamaican, West Indian, Brazilian, etc. All of these titles are basically false, because travel to a land named “whatever” does not make you a person of “whatever” culture, or alter your cultural identity to “whatever.” There is a physiology, a psychology and a spirituality that Africa delivers to the African across the globe whether you embrace it or not.

From nation to nation, we can feel the same musical rhythms, we can feel the same history of attack, oppression, separation and confusion and we can feel the same spirituality if we embrace these things. No matter where you happen to be born on the planet, there are things within you that make you the physical and spiritual manifestation of Africa. You can reject this ideology and become American, Canadian, or whatever, but reality is not your friend and you will continue to be confused while failing to evolve.

Black people who define themselves based solely on their land of residence are defining themselves based on self perception, which is sad, because all of the lands outside of Africa continue to reject us, even as many of us attempt to embrace them.

People argue that we built America, and it is a great nation, so we should claim it as our own. I agree with that to a point, but because of the beautiful, rich and lengthy history of Africa, I would rather align myself with the history that begins on that continent than any nation.

As an American, Black history begins with slavery.

African history begins with civilization.

The first human civilizations sprung up off the coast of river valleys in the eastern region of Africa, such as the Nile. Africa became the center of mathematics and science, as well as religion. Our legacy has been obfuscated and stolen, but it is still there for us to claim.

The invasion of so-called Western Civilization brought confusion, including the confusion centered in our very definition of self.

We can embrace being Black, but only with the understanding that the most fundamental portion of being Black is being African. The most fundamental portion of being African is being balanced. Balance comes to us based on where we start our study.

Some people start studying history as Africans, and others start studying as Blacks. In both groups, many seem to concentrate on Black and/or African achievements without proper perspective. Without proper perspective–which involves an understanding of how an African or Black person arrived at their achievements–one can only marvel at the end result without having adequate information as to how these people arrived at the achievement.

We can trace many great inventions as well as math, science and art to Black people, but we will still have only a cursory attachment to those achievements as long as we fail to fully embrace an understanding of who those people were and how we are connected to them. That is why it is extremely important to embrace and celebrate the original consciousness of the African people, as opposed to focusing only on the achievements of these people after they arrived in America.

We should eventually free ourselves from titles and move toward consciousness, but the evolution has to begin somewhere. Black History Month, which began as Black History week is a great concept, but it should continue to evolve as our consciousness evolves.

African History Living should be year round, and the celebration must be a constant inward journey of our self to the root of our existence, beginning with the re-evaluation of the modern African under Western thought.

Yes, Black people, it is time for us to plan on creating Black History. That begins with defining ourselves.

Hello Robert,

Robert you have made a distinction between consciousness and reality. However, reality overrules consciousness. You are saying that if you could consciously believe that you are Arabian when biologically you are a Black American then it is okay to think of yourself as Arabian. Robert that is foolishness. The backlash is psychologically self-hating. Foolishness and ignorance is as much evil as a man raping an eight old girl. God intended that all humanity strive to be intelligent and not foolish and ignorant.

You know that God rose up prophets from among their own kinds and Prophet Mohammad is not of your kinds. You cannot trick your mind into believing Prophet Mohammad is your prophet since I have told you the truth of what your own kind’s means.

I am your genuine prophet. You must let Islam go as well as Prophet Mohammad to embrace my divine task, our own religion, and me, which is, “The Salvation of God for the Sovereignty of Black Americans Who Are Descendents of Slaves.” In short, the name of our religion is, “LIFE”.

Now, if I am wrong about anything that I have said point out! If not, you need to forget about what Daryl James article is talking about, am I right. Mr. Daryl James does not know the difference between his left and his right foot. All Black Americans will eventually come to follow me as all Arabian people eventually came to follow Prophet Mohammad.

I am the way.

Tell me what you think.