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Black Americans are in a sad condition in America. We are divided by religion, class, skin color and education. Some scholars of academia have pointed to complex reasons for our predicament. Actually, the answer is very SIMPLE. It is so much easier to blame our brother for ourown misfortune. It is so much easier to take our anger for the way American society is treating us on our own brother. He is closer..right next door....and our sentencing at court is shorter. Our brother is an easy escapegoat. Many sisters have almost given up on us brothers. Look at Diana Ross and Halle Berry to name just a few. There are all of these black women helping black women groups. Irregardless, until the Black male address our problem, the Black race is going nowhere. Oprah Winfrey opened up a school in South Africa wanting to help the black women there. But, if you forget the black male, then there is violence in the home and the educated black women suffers. It is the Black male that has to reform. The Black American male must change his attitude for his fellow brother or no positive change can come about.
Posted By: jamal Abraham
Sunday, January 10th 2010 at 4:57PM
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When Barack Obama was the democratic nominee agains Sen John McCain for president....the only blacks that dominated the TV screen against him were other black male. The Black female almost unanimously were for Barack Obama. I have 4 sisters...and all of them were for Barack Obama. In other words, Sisters saw a handsome, intelligent, educated black man running for president and apparently did not want to be the group that kept him out of office. So yes, Irma, us Black male in America must get ourselves together.
Sunday, January 10th 2010 at 5:45PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Mr. Jamal,
I recognize from your blog that you are crying out to God to help Black Americans as the Hebrew people did approximately 4000 years ago and Allah sent them Prophet Moses.
I have repeatedly told you that God has heard our cry and have risen me up as Black America’s first genuine Prophet. God have inspired me to know that our only permanent solution is to desire to become a sovereign people or have complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own God-given way. I have said that we are going to inherit a portion of this continent. I said that everything I say is going to happen.
You need to support our cause of sovereignty and find it within your intelligence and heart to unite with me. Otherwise, your crying out is only in vain, am I right.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, January 10th 2010 at 6:16PM
Harry Watley
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It makes me sad, Irma, that the Black Male does not hone in our gender problem, and allowing our entire race to suffer. To make the Black Female head of the house, is only temporary....HOPEFULLY....But please realize...this is not a fight for head of household....it is a problem of jelousy and envy among us brothers that we must correct. How many educated black female, due to all types of circumstances marry nice uneducated inept men. Then the male gets upset because he is so incapable and not making the income like his wife so resort to violence. Instead of getting his self together with skill or education so he can contribute and be the man and head like he should.
Sunday, January 10th 2010 at 6:34PM
jamal Abraham
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Clark, Hello
Yes, of course....what you say is true. But, only the black race in America use these differances as an excuse to disconnect their brother from their circle. If a white male has a PhD and he is speaking to another white male with a certificate from a Junior college. The one does not put the other down like he is nothing. If a white is a Baptist and another is a Catholic...who knows and who cares. If a white male lives in a classy high society neighborhood and another white lives in an average neighborhood, they still can go golfing, biking and skiing together. It is only us Black male in America that use our differances as an excuse for one to think they are better than another. If one black brother is a Christian and another black brother is a Muslim, does that mean that they cannot go on a picnic together ? My point.....we use our differances as a crutch to not get along...to not respect....to not be friendly to each other though when the European brought us here from Africa whether we were rich, coptic, muslim, orphan...it did not matter...we were all black Africans about to become a slave.
Sunday, January 10th 2010 at 6:59PM
jamal Abraham
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Irma, when the smoke clears with life's processes....us Black Americans remain a disunited, back bitting race of people. There is something wrong with us in particular. Some say we are dumb and spoiled....others say that we need to forget about being black and become colorblind to who we are and pretend to be white or something differant then we are. But, the problem currently is the continued hatefullness black brothers have for each other....Almighty God will not allow one black male to rise above the condition of his race though many have tried. This blog is about my race of people...though my quality of life is very good....I'm sad because Black people is pitiful as a race.
Sunday, January 10th 2010 at 7:09PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello to Clark and Jamal,
The answers that you all are giving are a bunch of crap. Black Americans has always been on the bottom and that deserves explaining. In other words, why sometimes Whites are not on the bottom for a time?
Clark seems to feel that every race has the same equal problems and that is a bunch of crap since the only people that have ever been on the bottom since the beginning up to this day is Black people. Black people have the worst healthcare. Black people pay the highest interest rate on all loans. Black people have the highest incarceration rate. Is it because we have a natural criminal DNA gene that other races do not have? You all had better stop being foolish.
Even a Hebrew in the days of Moses would not have bought into such a silly premise that they are Egyptian dropouts as there are Hebrew dropouts. Then why the hell was the Hebrew people rescued by God that Prophet Moses is so revered by Jewish people in the State of Israel today?
What say you?
Sunday, January 10th 2010 at 7:29PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Clark,
The general understanding of your entire comment is that all the races have the same problems as Black Americans. I take an exception to that thought since Black Americans has always been on the bottom. Black America’s problems of being on the bottom is inherently systematic and institutionalize by White America before Chinese, Japanese, Germans etc. immigrants arrive in this country. We want to be free. We want to be free as the Hebrew people wanted when they were in bondage in Egypt.
Now, you used education as an example. You said, “Education? Same thing. You have black Ph.Ds and white high school dropouts, Latino lawyers and Chinese high school teachers.”
Consequentially, what are you saying is that all races shares in the same problems while I am saying that is not true since Black Americans has always been on the bottom and have less of what everybody else has accomplished.
Black Americans needs to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity. Therefore, there will be no one to blame thereafter for our presently dire situation, am I right.
Therefore, sovereignty is our only permanent solution as God has inspired me to know.
What say you?
Monday, January 11th 2010 at 3:19AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Clark,
What I clearly know about our people, Black Americans is that they complicate everything because they see everything complicated. What I see you trying to do Clark is fit a square peg into a round hole.
What I understand Jamal is saying is that Black Americans do not help each other. You come on board saying that Jamal’s statement is not true of all Black people. Jamal then says that you are riding on the exception and not the general rule.
Now, in trying to justify your self you mentioned how individual Blacks have helped you. However, your problem is that you cannot see the forest for the sake of the tree. Jamal is trying to show you the forest and you are showing him a few trees. The general rule supports Jamal since we are on the bottom and has always been on the bottom. One of the reasons we have always been on the bottom is that we were taught and trained always to be against each other.
He is right because we do, do everything negative, hurtful and harmful to our own kinds. However, unity is just one of our problems. But, it is not the silver bullet. The silver bullet is our sovereignty that God has offered us. The responsibilities to be sovereign wrap a heavy chain around us to achieve and maintain sovereignty. Am I making any sense with you?
Now, is the brightest statement that you made, “Jamal’s point is that black’s use these different classifications to further divide themselves and set up walls etc amongst them, rather than not allowing these differences to come between them, as other races do, which is his premise. I don’t agree with that.”
Clark we have not done this to ourselves. This was done to us going all the way back to slavery. Some say the Willie Lynch letter is false even with the history behind it. Nevertheless, we are everything in that letter that was advised to the slave owners by Mr. Lynch.
We need the help of God and when we know we have, the help of God is by a prophet whom God inspires and guides that is in our midst as Moses was in the midst of his people. This is necessary because we do not have the wherewithal, brains included to figure out how to get out of this sad situation that Jamal is referencing.
The crux of your argument Clark is that things are not as sad as Jamal makes them out to be. But, you are absolutely wrong because our situation is more than sad. Actually, there is no adequate word to describe it.
Consider Robert, he thinks that the silver bullet is President Barack Obama and much of us feel the same way. However, I have told you what our permanent solution is.
What say you?
Monday, January 11th 2010 at 10:04AM
Harry Watley
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Hi Jamal: Black Americas {males as mentioned from per titled of your blog} have the same opportunities that all Americans do. Which means they have the opportunity to get it together. Many black males may NOT taking the opportunity sounds more like it to me. It's never easy, and I think especially with younger black males seeking opportunities lose hope quickly and find themselves giving up hope. I think it's one of causes of their dispair. I don't think that this will necessarily mean black females will follow, but if you looking from a standpoint black males are losing their interest with black females --it could very well be a factor. There was once a time where males were leaders of the households, families and the sole provider of his family. We know that's changed today. A large number of men and women are independent. I think it's a problem of men taking on independence. All else will follow, including women. A lot of women feel men want to be taken care of. Not all men are this way. Many men carry the load. Women are enjoying a new independence, and have learned they can do it alone. No, not all women will follow men, but at least they'll feel men are more capable of holding their own. Those a my thoughts.... There are so many ways to look at it.
Monday, January 11th 2010 at 11:29AM
MIISRAEL Bride
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Hello Ms. Shields,
Let me provoke your mind by asking you if you sanely believe that 500 years of slavery has no lasting affects on Black Americans that you could casually say that Black males have the same opportunities as all Americans do, but don’t take advantage of the opportunities? Is this what you are really saying?
For example, you are telling me that Black males have the same opportunities as White males in White America.
Please bring me on the same page that you are on if that page exist at all. I am all eyes, ears and mind for you and that means I am anxiously awaiting your reply.
Anxiously waiting.
Monday, January 11th 2010 at 12:15PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Clark,
You cannot use my line against me,…… complicate things because they see everything complicated then walk away as if you made a touchdown. That is not right. You have to use your own ingenuity as I have used mines.
Clark this is the point that you made. You gave three categories. Firstly, classes, as in lower, middle and upper class. Secondly, you gave religion. Thirdly, you gave education. Now, of all three categories, Black Americans are F… up people and White Americans are responsible, am I right. So, it baffles me that you would say I honestly refuse to acknowledge your point. You point is moot.
The bottom line Clark is that Black Americans has always systematically been on the bottom. Therefore, whatever the reasons to be on the bottom does not matter because no other races have shared the bottom with Black Americans. Incidentally, I do not believe Black Americans wants to be on the bottom because we are simply crazy and love being abused. Now, notwithstanding Black Americans being psychologically crazy there are legitimate, sophisticated and cunning reasons why we are on the bottom and no one else has ever been on the bottom with us.
Consequentially, your premise that other races in this country have the same problems as Black Americans, that is absolutely not true.
Therefore, I will repeat, Black Americans only permanent solution is to desire to become a sovereign people or have complete independence on the portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. God has intervened and granted us sovereignty on the portion of this continent. Everything that I tell you is one happening because I am right.
Am I right?
Monday, January 11th 2010 at 1:31PM
Harry Watley
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Harry it's my opinion. That's what I've written. Black men have the opportunities in America. I did however, say IT'S NOT ALWAY EASY. Meaning there will be difficulties because of their skin color, or race and or education. Making it difficult does not make it impossible. For example; every American has the opporutunity to become president, and because we had a black man who took the opportunity he was elected. There are many Black men who take on opportunities, small or large and there are others who feel they have no chance who give up. Yes, I know there are thousands of opportunties. I know too, there are thousands of blacks who think they have not chances and give up quickly.
Any way Harry Dear, I am entitiled to my opinion.
Monday, January 11th 2010 at 5:04PM
MIISRAEL Bride
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Hello Ms. Shields,
I would like to click on a few quick points before I get to the main point of my issue about your way of thinking.
Yes, it is your opinion that Black males have opportunities in this dire situation of ours and you are entitled to your opinion. However, most opinions are based on unrelated facts scattered here and there that makes the opinion rational.
I tend to believe that because Black males are in an unnatural or subjugated in White America that where ever he could fit in is what you see as an opportunity for him to do better. I believe that your way of thinking is subliminally subservient to White America and is sadly wrong.
You said that every American has the opportunity to be president. Perhaps, but these opportunities lies in the hands of White American people.
I feel that what you tend to see, as opportunities in White America for Black males are obstacle courses. However, if Black Americans were sovereign and free people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way is where neither you nor I would have an argument.
To be free and completely independent on a portion of this continent is a natural law of nature for Black Americans when we know we had different people from White America, am I right.
Likewise, I believe what I am explaining to you was precisely the same situation with the Hebrew people and the Egyptian people that God intervene and rose up Moses to resolve the issue between the two different people, am I right.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, January 12th 2010 at 4:22AM
Harry Watley
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Harry Dear: I am wishing you blessings in your journey and that opportunities you are seeking lies in the hands of God and not in any man's hand.
Bless you Watley.
Tuesday, January 12th 2010 at 7:21AM
MIISRAEL Bride
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There is no getting to GOD if one does not believe in man. After all, it is man that does God's work. Sometimes when a woman is living alone, divorced and scorned or just ignorant...she may think she can skate around God. But, When you say God...you say HE, HIM .....so forget about discounting MAN. This is why Black males must get it together....not in asking the female to help us to get it together...for no Woman can help man with this. We as Black males must want to get it together and together we can accomplish what we want.
Thursday, January 14th 2010 at 9:11PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Ms. Shields,
Yes, you are right about our change lies in the hands of God. The same as the children of Israel change of life from bondage and slavery to the Promised Land lied in the hands of God.
However, you as a part of Black America are needed, just as Moses needed the help and participation of all the children of Israel to make the Exodus a reality. In other words, Black Americans do not need other Black Americans on the outside looking at the rest of us journeying into our sovereignty. I do realize that not all the children of Israel left with Moses. Some indeed stayed back in Egypt and they perished in Egypt, am I right.
God being with me will cause you to change your way of thinking and be a help to the cause of our Exodus.
Tell me what you think.
Friday, January 15th 2010 at 4:15AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
The gist of your comment is troublesome because you are playing man against God and God against man, which eventually confuses your audience and nothing is accomplished. We believe in God and God only. Before there was man, there was God. We give no credit to man and man grateful to God that God created him, man.
I have conclusively shown you that Mr. Elijah Muhammad unintentionally and inadvertently misled us. In addition, I believe that Dr. Fard Muhammad had good intentions as well and was a wise man. However, Black Americans were misled and that is just the plane reality of the NOI and its teachings about the Asiatic Black man. Consequentially, we must be resilient enough to recover that we may continue on our journey of becoming a sovereign people or have complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.
I am Black America’s first genuine Prophet. I am the real deal.
God have equipped me to take on and defeat the wisdom that Mr. Elijah Muhammad had and left as well as Mr. Farrakhan and Imam Warith D. Mohammed’s followers. But, realize I am a single man up against huge organizations proclaiming to have supreme wisdom. Since I could do this, what could be with me, but God?
You need to abandon your old ways and mindset and follow me.
Okay.
Friday, January 15th 2010 at 4:38AM
Harry Watley
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Jamal, actually if you are a member of the Black community some how you have either missed on this or you are like prophet Harry who does not believe in the "individual" as a reality...and, please try very hard to remember that I am black and you have not said anything that even come close to any thing about me or any male in my circle of people in my life as friend, extended family or some like I know Clark to be and I have never evern met him is person ...only connected by common sense and his ability to not avoid reality/truth to suit his purpose for being on this site...
even White people that I associate with on an inside of my life level show more respect for Black males than you and more acceptance of our race as UNIQUE and worthy of value, respect as fellow human beings...sorry so please stop putting me under your private label/value of your discription of African-American male or female as my husband is male and so are my brothers...(smile) and Peace...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Actually Clark, I now have just realized something...Harry is getting a lot of compatition on this site in the past few weeks.LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOl
I know that i will not waste any more of their valuabe space on any of their blogs again(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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sorry Jamal, I meant in taht church in NY and how many were for HC and not for Obama...
do you notice how "I" use the "I"????????????????????????????????????????this is what "I call self-esteme and refusing to project my responisbliltys or failuare on to others..my purpose on this site as my life is to try and get a look at the other person's points of views and to accept their having the same rights as "I" do...to educate and to be educated by others by dialogue.(smile)
I see life as a process of ups and down, rights and wrongs and it is only by our mistakes can we grow in all things even spiricually/scientifically...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Jamal, to help you maybe better able to face raality...I am Black female and am able to vote for who I believe it the best candidate...I ma also a regristered Democtat,but my vote was to write in the name R-O-N P-A-U-L as my choicce for president of the United States..I did this because "I" took persoanl responsiblity to vote for some one who knew he would never become president for saying unpopular things nor appearing in Black churhes when the Obama family could not do this...wake Up...
let see how many of our females in Congress or even on this very site was not for Hillary Clinton and not Obama...truth/reality, pick you choice on this matter my black male...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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something I would like to point out to you...do you remember that news conferense of Hillary Clinton's in front of the Black church...the news shots showed so less mambers ther for this news conference that they could do only a small shot of the gathering...at any rate there was not one female member there at all...and something else and why we need to get our BIA from more sources than CNN, example
susan B Anthony got an american coin made for her because she led the fight for the votes to be taken away from the Black man ang given to the White female...
not only do we not know about the many, many appearances before our Congress by Ida B. Well in her successful bid that the votes should not be taken from the Black male, because the Black female forcing them that putting theri lives on the line to vote that they could be able to carry on raising the children...
You see Jamal to me trying to prove that our men are worthless because of their mother being taught into us by way of replacing our mother -centered cultrue with the male head as in the White race/ culture ,as the head of the family of us as it always has been is being lost with your help...
is my goals which is just the opposit of yours and is personal to me.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Acutally it was the insult to me as a female (of limitless self-esteme)on a personal level that drew me to this blog...it was looking for self responisbility in the form of the "I" that kept me reading your words...
but, as per usual all "I" found was more finger pointing and blame or as those who are experts in human behavior calls it, PROJECTING on to others and away for ones own self.(smile)
I did love this blog though Jamal...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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