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Read the main book by Messenger Elijah Muhammad, "Message to the Black Man of America". There is a major theme.....that eventually the lost tribe of Shabazz referred to as the lost sheep would become a major cornerstone and become rulers in land of their own. The NOI speak of crisis in Haiti, networking of consumerism and continued racism in America. What does that do for the Black children of slaves who are out of work, out of hope, highly spirited and 80 years since Islam in this country. When will the Rah Rah turn into movement toward the objective. Where is this Nation....and how will just a bunch of ministers and fancy speeches bring about a nation. For their to be a nation, it takes land, industry, government,and other resources to grow and sustain itself. Instead we get speeches, DVDs, and Rah Rah.......What are we Black Americans going to Do.....Please don't say just build up Chicago....Messenger Elijah Muhammad said that the Savior came to give us a flag, knowledge of self and an example of how to rule a nation of our own. What is the Nation of Islam doing in your city that you live....Where is the Real Estate that defines the NOI......TALK DOES NOT MAKE A NATION.....THE Savior did not come to America merely for Black Americans to open a mosque or temple......WHERE IS THE NATION ? This Saviors day...sure, there will be music....there will be speeches.....But, where is the BEEF....Where is the Nation that the Savior spoke about.....that the Messenger Spoke About.....After the basket is passed and $400 per booth is collected.....When do Black Americans get the Nation that the NOI has proclaimed......Shall the Black Americans not ask the serious question of the leadership of NOI like they ask in President Barack Obama. There are checks and balances that question the track record of accomplishments of the President of the United States and call him to account. Is it time to call to account the accomplishments of the Nation of Islam. In your city and state, where is the Nation of Islam felt.Is there evidence of an eventual nation. At Saviors Day 2010 what kind of music shall we hear--will it be Jazz, Calypso or Raggae.....We buy the paper....we now have to pay for Saviors Day......Who's fooling who. Black Americans continue to pay.....But where is the NATION ?
Posted By: jamal Abraham
Saturday, February 6th 2010 at 1:19AM
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Hello Abraham,
You referred to Elijah’s book, “Message to the Black Man” and quoted this, “that eventually the lost tribe of Shabazz referred to as the lost sheep would become a major cornerstone and become rulers in land of their own.”
Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. Black Americans never existed before slavery as we are today. Therefore, Black Americans could not be this lost tribe of Shabazz. Do you understand my point? Furthermore, we do not have a name yet for ourselves except Black Americans who are descendents of slaves. When we become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent, we will then have the opportunity to say who we are that the world will respect when we say who we are, am I right.
Mr. Elijah Muhammad said many things out of confusion. He did not understand he himself was a Black American man rather than an Arabian man. If he understood that, he was a Black American man he would have wanted from God his own and not merged himself into what belongs to the Arabian people. We are not Muslims. The only real Muslims in this world are people of Prophet Mohammad’s kinds since Prophet Mohammad coined the name Muslim. Prophet Mohammad needed to distinguish those of his people that were converted from paganism to Al Islam and he called them Muslims, am I right.
In other words, since God gave the Arabian people their own Al Islam, Al Quran and Prophet Mohammad then certainly if Elijah had enough common sense he could have seen that he as well is worthy of having our own from God especially when our time came. Instead, Elijah saw the world out of the eyes of Dr. Fard Muhammad a follower of Prophet Mohammad himself. Consequentially, Elijah became a product of Dr. Fard Muhammad a common person without anointing of God. Dr. Fard Muhammad was a very intelligent man as indicated by his title (Dr.), but neither God nor a prophet was he as ignorant Elijah believed that he was, am I right.
A genuine prophet is a product of God and God only. For instance, Prophet Mohammad was a product of God. Prophet Moses was a product of God. Project Harry is a product of God. Do you see my point? None of us a man could lay claim. However, Dr. Fard Muhammad could claim Elijah. Therefore, Elijah was nothing more than what Dr. Fard Muhammad made of him. Likewise, Prophet Mohammad was no more than what God made of him as well. See the differences?
Follow me Abraham and I will make you wise. I am wiser than Dr. Fard Muhammad is and Elijah could ever have been.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, February 6th 2010 at 1:49PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, Hello
Comments you make are so beyond real and true it is almost laughable. There is nothing wrong with the doctrine of the Nation of Islam...the problem is the people running it at present. the word impotence comes to mind because nothing is being done but rah rah and clapping of hands and fancy smiles.....but there is no substance. Messenger Elijah Muhammad was God last messenger....You Harry are a false prophet. You are neither Christian, Muslim or Jew....what are you, but ignorant ?
Saviors Day 2010 approaches and the birth of Master Fard Muhammad is celebrated. Muslims need to hear from NOI chief engineer on the progress of nationhood....we want to hear of when will be the ground breaking ceremony and cutting of the ribbon....in celebraing of the land we were promised...Instead of more empty rhetoric.
Saturday, February 6th 2010 at 2:09PM
jamal Abraham
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Harry:
I remember having a discussion about this on Yahoo groups. First of all I would like to acknowledge the fact that I have been an NOI member since birth and although I don't know everything that goes on in the Nation of Islam, I don't know whether all the accusations concerning the corruption are true or not BUT what I do know is that the Honorable Louis Farrakhan is more than "just talk".
I'm my own self savior, I'm in a Nation were there are no leaders but that doesn't mean I don't have any people that are good examples for me. I can hardly think about a better example than Louis Farrakhan. The majority of our people are Christians and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught us to speak the language of the people...that's exactly what he is doing, he can speak the language of a Christian minister but also the language of a great Muslim, he is extremly versatile!
The Final Call is a great newspaper just like Muhammad Speaks is a great newspaper. The improvements of the Muhammad farms is a great way to employ and feed our people, he shows and prove every time he is being interviewed. No other black man could draw almost two million black men to Washington D.C! He is very wise and internationally respected, it feels really good to have a brother on our side that is so multitalented!
The Mosque here in New Orleans is very well respected, I know for a fact that he has inspired some of my friends to be better men and women, how many Lost and Founds hasn't he attracted? Where are your works Harry? What can you show for yourself Harry? He gave up his music career for the work to save our people, he gave everything and recieves so little from all sorts of haters like you!!!
Lets say (just as an example) all he do is talk, his "talk" has moved thousands of thousands of people, what HAVE YOU DONE Harry? You are talking about how great Malcolm was but what are you doing "soldier", you are sitting and dissing a person on the web that isn't here to defend himself. I don't see him sitting on the web and badmouthing, spreading rumors because he is on a godgiven mission to "get our people". If you were to ever post your trash on our site www.NOINewOrleans.com, there is no doubt in my mind that your writings would definitely be torn to pieces.
Harry, instead of talking about how weak the Nation of Islam of today is, how corrupt it is, HELP HIM REBUILD IT THEN, DON'T BE A BYSTANDER THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING BUT SPREAD VICIOUS RUMORS, REGARDLESS IF THEY ARE TRUE OR NOT!!!
Saturday, February 6th 2010 at 6:13PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “There is nothing wrong with the doctrine of the Nation of Islam...the problem is the people running it at present. the word impotence comes to mind because nothing is being done but rah rah and clapping of hands and fancy smiles.....but there is no substance.”
Jamal, something has to be wrong with the doctrine of the Nation of Islam and not the people. Was not Mr. Louis Farrakhan one of Elijah’s students as well as most of the elites and present leaders were astute followers of Elijah? So, how then could you say there is nothing wrong with the doctrine Elijah left them?
Furthermore, for the many years that Elijah ruled over the Nation of Islam until his passing are Black Americans any closer to sovereignty or complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way than we are now from when Elijah was alive? The answer is emphatically no! We are not a sovereign people, am I right? However, what the Nation of Islam increased in were businesses and farmlands. These items are not a substitute for sovereignty or complete independence, even though I find nothing wrong having these items.
Consequentially, the Nation of Islam under Elijah’s administration was just as impotent as it is today under Louis Farrakhan’s administration and it is understandably so, since Elijah was not anointed of God. Remember as I said before, Elijah turned out Louis Farrakhan. Therefore, Louis Farrakhan is no more than what Elijah made of him, am I right.
You said this, “Saviors Day 2010 approaches and the birth of Master Fard Muhammad is celebrated. Muslims need to hear from NOI chief engineer on the progress of nationhood”
I have a couple of questions here. Firstly, are you a member of the NOI and a follower of Louis Farrakhan? Secondly, was Mr. Master Fard Muhammad your Savior? Thirdly, an engineer does not give progress reports on nationhood. Black America’s nationhood is in the hand of God Chosen One, the first genuine prophet for Black Americans. Black America’s situation is as divine as the children of Israel’s situation were and it took a prophet, Prophet Moses to lead the children of Israel out of bondage. Likewise, it will take a prophet, Prophet Harry to lead Black Americans into sovereignty or complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. Chief engineers cannot do these things. A chief engineer comes behind the prophet. Am I making any sense with you?
Now, as far as what I am. You are correct that I am nothing except Black America’s first genuine prophet. To be a Christian is to be something that I am not. To be a Muslim is something that I am not and to be a Jew is something that I am not either.
Since I am Black America’s first genuine prophet and Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery what I am must be new as well. Christianity, Muslims and Jews are not new things. Therefore, none of your choices would be applicable to me.
Abraham, everything that I say is going to happen and that is the purpose of a prophet that what he says God will back it up since God rose me up to lead Black Americans out of subjugation and into sovereignty.
I hope that I have cleared up your confusion.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, February 6th 2010 at 9:48PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, What !
There is nothing wrong with the doctrine of the Nation of Islam. Messenger Elijah Muhammad was God's last messenger..we need not look for another...There is no need. Messenger Elijah Muhammad was the perfect example of how a unlearned man could grow a nation of people to be upright and and respectable citizens in this strange land. He taught us how to build an economy based on the strenths we had among us.....since we had the truth....obviously came the Muhammad Speaks Newspaper.....we learned how to eat......Muslims made a business out of cooking the right food and making it available for disbelievers.
My blogs are not to defame Min. Farrakhan and if you check very seldom is his name brought up. This is do respect one Muslim has for another Muslim. It turns out that the brotherhood of Islam is the strongest brotherhood on the planet. What is spoken in this blog is issue.
But, you Harry belong to nothing....you rule nothing....you are a prophet of nobody but your own foolish self. This blog deals with issue not personal attacks. Do you not see my picture when a little boy growing up in the Nation of Islam. I have been a Muslim believer ever since. Since you don't know about Islam, you should shut your mouth about what you don't know. In the Quran, it speaks of believers and non believers....it speaks of the righteous and the unrighteous.....it does not separate the Muslims into those for Sunni, and those Shiite, Min Farrakhan, MANA, Muslim World Community.....this is what man has done......He has divided the universal religion of Islam.....But, being a believer all my life and studied the teachings in depth.....came to realize that Allah teaches unity and respect and love for our brothers. If little Abraham has a issue with the rate of progress of the Nation of Islam, then my goal is to put pressure on the Nation of Islam and with the help of Allah....that pressure may be felt. But, no need to disrespect any one individual Muslim brother.
Saturday, February 6th 2010 at 10:42PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Siebra,
Before I begin, I must compliment you on the intelligence structure of your comment. In other words, there is no criticism and emotion in your comment and I appreciate that since it does not happen too often from you.
Okay, the first point that you are making is that Mr. Louis Farrakhan is more than just talk. That is understandable because Elijah Muhammad already made what he took over. Mr. Louis Farrakhan is continuing Elijah’s work, which is not taken us where we need to be. We need to be a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. What Elijah Muhammad done throughout the life of the NOI was to buy farmlands and chains of businesses, which is not a substitute for our sovereignty? Mr. Elijah Muhammad could not bring our sovereignty into being since it would take a divine person anointed by God. Compare our situation to that of the Hebrew people when they were in bondage in Egypt. The Exodus took a divine person anointed by God, which was Moses. Not any person could have done, likewise not any person could lead Black Americans into sovereignty. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become real people in this world among other real people. Have I made my point clear?
You said this, “I'm my own self savior, I'm in a Nation were there are no leaders”
This is not true! You are not your own savior. God is your savior and I am your prophet. Furthermore, the Nation of Islam does have a leader and his name is Mr. Louis Farrakhan.
You said this, “The majority of our people are Christians and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught us to speak the language of the people...that's exactly what he is doing, he can speak the language of a Christian minister but also the language of a great Muslim, he is extremly versatile!”
Mr. Louis Farrakhan cannot speak the language to our Christian people since he is not anointed of God and neither was Elijah Muhammad. None of them understands that the Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people to the world of how God has helped them in their times of trouble with other races as well as personally help them. They know nothing of the Bible. Furthermore, the only like incident in the Bible as a comparison and contrast to Black Americans is Moses and Farrakhan do not talk about Moses as much as he talks about Jesus and other nonsense. Neither the Bible nor the Holy Quran is religious books that govern Black Americans. Our religious book is forthcoming since Black Americans presently have a genuine prophet anointed of God to lead our subjugation and us into sovereignty.
You said this, “Where are your works Harry? What can you show for yourself Harry?”
My work is to communicate to Black Americans of our impending sovereignty and get you all to understand not to put stock in what you have now, but to prepare to become a sovereign people and then what you do will be ours. My divine responsibility is to lead us into sovereignty and once that happens the best minds from among us will take over an established the best democratic government the world has ever seen. We will have more integrity that any people have ever seen. Everything I say is going to happen. At this point, my task is over. What Elijah and Mr. Farrakhan have is an organization called the NOI. This organization of Minister Louis Farrakhan lives off the blood money of our poor Black people. Sovereignty should not cost our people anything if Farrakhan was truly anointed of God. The Exodus did not cost the Hebrew people any monies. Black Americans do not want an organization. We want a country and to be a sovereign nation among other sovereign nations.
You said this, “You are talking about how great Malcolm was”
I never said that Malcolm was great. Malcolm was just as confused as Elijah and Farrakhan are since they all follow the Arabian people in spite of knowing that God rose up prophets from among their own kinds. Prophet Mohammad is not of our kinds since we are Black Americans who are a new breed a race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. We have no business being Muslims in embracing the Holy Quran. These are assets of the Arabian people. Have you not noticed that all prophets racially match their own people? So why are you all Black Americans hugged up on Arabian people? Have I made myself clear?
Lastly, you said this, “Harry, instead of talking about how weak the Nation of Islam of today is, how corrupt it is, HELP HIM REBUILD IT THEN, DON'T BE A BYSTANDER THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING”
I told you before that Mr. Farrakhan and all of you are going to follow me. Only one man could lead us where we need to be since our situation is divine this one man is divine as well. I am that one man. God has inspired me to know that our only permanent solution is to desire to become a sovereign people or have complete independence on a portion of this continent and it is going to happen. There is no other solution including farmlands in a chain of businesses.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, February 7th 2010 at 1:43AM
Harry Watley
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Harry, Hello
"My work is to communicate to Black Americans of our impending sovereignty and get you all to understand not to put stock in what you have now, but to prepare"
In other words your work is to just talk.....talk....and talk....America is not built on talk...Rome was not built on talk.....Timbuktu was not built on talk.....but with people skilled with the mindset relevant for nationhood like metal working, institutions of higher learning, irrigation, governing body.....all we get from you Harry is talk.....my book...www.trafford.com/06-29722 took me 10 years to write...but Black Americans are not valued enough to you for you to write a book. Seem like you are stuck on yourself....and what a shame....cause that makes you stuck on ignorance.
Sunday, February 7th 2010 at 2:37AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Abraham,
I will bypass the criticism that I am stuck on myself and respond to your complaining that all I do is talk.
Well Abraham, that is how all great things begins from talking and then actions, am I right.
For instance, do you doubt that Elijah Muhammad did not start out talking? Do you doubt that Moses did not start out talking as well? So, does you complaint that all I do is talk has any merits? I do not think so.
My talking is to get you all to see the truth and the good sense in all the things I say that you would join me sooner rather than later to make our sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity a reality.
Furthermore, you suggest that I write a book, however, there is a saying that if you want to hide anything from Black Americans put it in book because they do not read. So, how smart would I be to follow your advice? I do not think I would be very smart at all, am I right
I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that black Americans could ever become a real people in this world among other real people. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. So, what do it prophet do more of than talk, you tell me, okay.
A prophet’s responsibility is to move his people from A to Z, am I right. So, why do you criticize and complain about me so much?
Show me that the things I say or wrong, okay.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, February 7th 2010 at 3:53PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Abraham,
Abraham, my words have never changed. The gist, essence, and essential words of a genuine prophet do not change since what I say typically comes from God. The essentials of what I have always said is that we are going to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way, am I right.
Now, Allah could not have inspired you with anything because you are not Arabian. Allah inspired Prophet Mohammad since Mohammad was Arabian. The title Allah is associated with Arabianism. You are a Black American who is a descendent of slaves, which makes you a new breed or race that has emerged from the ashes of slavery. Consequentially, if a divine entity were going to inspire you it would have to be God since you were born speaking the King’s English as your mother and her mother spoke, am I right. To use the title Allah would indicate that you are a mentally lost Black man. Black Americans know the Creator as God and not Allah am I right. Therefore, if the Creator were inspiring you you would be speaking the language of your people. Black Americans understand the Creator to be God and not Allah, which is the language of the Arabian people, am I right. Therefore, you need to make a switch over from the Arabian people to your people, and I right.
Abraham, the vast majority of Black Americans even if they be no damn good they are still our people. Likewise, Moses knew that after 400 years of Egyptian rule the vast majority of his people were no damn good as well. However, the Hebrew people were his people. I am sent for my people as Moses was sent for his people. The task of all genuine prophets is very difficult and they rely constantly on the help of God since God anointed them and I am no different.
I came to get the good, the bad and the ugly of my people. I want all those in jail and on death row. I want the mentally insane, I want the homos*xuals and lesbians, I want the skill and educated ones and I want the dumb ones as well. In fact, I want all my people. We are responsible for each other and you ought not to cherry pick through our people arbitrarily deciding who is better and who is not, okay.
Genuine prophets are merciful, understanding, compassionate, intelligent and physically aggressive as well. They are not foolish and emotional people. They rely on the help and guidance of God constantly as I said.
You said this, “The vast majority of Black Americans sad to say are no damn good. That is why it was only predicted a small percent would see the hereafter.”
Now, who is doing the predicting that you are following? Are you getting this prediction from the Bible? Have I not told you before that the Bible is not the religious book that decides anything about Black Americans? Furthermore, books do not guide Black Americans. A live person must guide Black Americans and that I am. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. Is not the contents of the Bible and Holy Quran that you read was due to a live man to begin with, am I right. Have I not told you before that the Holy Quran is not a religious book that guides Black Americans? Have I not told you before that these books govern and guide the people of those books? For instance, the Holy Quran speaks of Arabian people. The Bible speaks of Jewish people. So, how did you come up with the Bible predicting anything about Black Americans who are a new breed or race of people?
You said this, “that that must be separation prior to nationhood.”
Of course, there must be a separation and that separation is our unity under the umbrella of our desire to become sovereign or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way that we would then become a viable nation.
Lastly, you said this, “What my mission is about talented, mature, skilled, spiritual and responsible Black Americans "leaving" America to land of our own….”
I understand and accept that your mission is about the talented and mature. However, my task is recovering all Black Americans. So, you and I are divided. Your education and emotions guides you. My inspiration from God guides me. As a result, there is a profound difference between your wisdom and mines. You have the desires of an ordinary man for some of our people. I have the desires and anointing of God for all of our people.
Black Americans are going to leave White America, but we are not leaving the continent where our ancestors were born, suffered and died. We, as Black Americans have no other land except a portion of this continent that we will inherit that we could call our very own country with borders. I have explained to you why a portion of this continent is our homeland.
Many of Moses people challenged Moses for his Prophethood as you are challenging me. However, genuine prophets do not fight to keep their position. Since God is the entity that anointed me God will handle all those who challenge and oppose me as was done with Moses challengers and adversaries, God wasted them.
I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world among other real people.
Tell me what you think.
Monday, February 8th 2010 at 9:49PM
Harry Watley
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The angels from God came to Abraham of Old and told him that they were to go to Sodom and gomorrah where the evil is great....bunch of gays and lesbians. Abraham of old asked the Angels...that what if he could find 100 good...could God spare the city....they said YES.....But, there was not 100 good ones....then Abraham of old asked what about 50....there was not 50 good ones......He asked for 20 would God spare the city from destruction....but there was not even 20....it got down to 10....there was not even 10 that was any good. Only Lot and his daughters. Harry, you are rediculous to think God will tolerate the millions of Black Americans that will not do right due to the slavemasters conditioning. No, my divine work is for 144,000 or 1 in about 300. And the Bible made it very clear that one in the field would be taken and one would not. My divine work is supported in holy scripture where your work is found in comic books. You have no basis for nothing you say....Islam is a universal religion reaching every corner of the Globe. persons on the North Pole pray to Allah. Persons in India, Madagascar, Indonesia pray to Allah. Your reasoning is fallacy for what do you say to muslims in Russia praying to Allah. How silly you are. Muslims in Mexico, Peru, Venezuala pray to Allah....what do you say to them. Black Americans that pray to Allah join the billions of other persons on earth that pray to the one God. While your god is no god. It is only you taking a trip to disneyland.
Tuesday, February 9th 2010 at 12:18AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Abraham,
Okay, let me shed some light on Sodom and Gomorrah. I have said to you before that homos*xuals and lesbians are a mishap of nature. I explained to you that their mishap is sought of the brain wiring itself wrongly. In other words, supposedly the brain for a male is to wire itself to be attracted to females. Instead, the brain makes a mishap and wires itself that the male is attracted to one another male. The fault of this mishap is purely due to nature. Every race has homos*xuals and lesbians.
Another example, supposedly the brain is expected to wire itself to be right-handed, since this world is a right-handed world. However, every now and then a left-handed person is born. This left-handed person is also a mishap in nature as homos*xuals and lesbians are since he or she is functioning in a right-handed world.
I was fortunate to see two male children born homos*xual. They did not decide to be homos*xuals they were born this way. I saw it when they were about four or five years old from their actions and in deed, they grew up to be homos*xuals. These two children were members of my biological family. So, they grew up in my presence. Incidentally, there are studies that substantiates a person could be born homos*xual or lesbian. Churches and people who thinks as you thinks as foolish parents who thought that by tying their child’s left hand behind his back believe that they could make the child right handed. It is all foolish since the mishap it is in the brain.
Lastly, the Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people concerning how God helped them. The Holy Quran is the testimony of the Arabian people concerning how Allah (God) helped them as well. Likewise, Black Americans will get our opportunity to give the world a testimony how God helped us out of slavery, oppression, suppression, racism and subjugation in White America into sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. However, most importantly we are being given the divine opportunity to brave and overcome the natural obstacles of nature. Such an experience must be learned firsthand; otherwise, we will always be followers of White American people.
You said this, which is a very good point, so I will give you insight, “Harry, you are rediculous to think God will tolerate the millions of Black Americans that will not do right due to the slavemasters conditioning.”
There were millions of Hebrew people that died in the desert because they could not change from the Egyptian’s way that only two were left, Joshua and another to enter into the Promised Land. However, they all have an opportunity and 40 years to change their ways. You will have an opportunity to change your way from the Arabian people as well and if you do not you will perish. The same will be for Black Americans as a whole. God have made me intelligent, compassionate, understanding, merciful and aggressive as well. I am well balanced since I am inspired and constantly guided by God. My goal is always to be right rather than to be wrong.
Next, you said these things, “You have no basis for nothing you say...While your god is no god. It is only you taking a trip to disneyland.”
It appears that I do not have a basis for anything and what you fail to understand is that where I am coming from is all-new and that is why you believe that I do not have a basis for anything. You, Elijah and Black Americans have never been this way before, am I right.
Again, since Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery everything that God has for us will be new and you do not seem to grasp this understanding. But, where you are coming from is not new. No one before me has ever presented anything new to us. Consequentially, I should be a sign to you that I am from God since what I am presenting is new. Elijah was not sure whether Black Americans would stay here all going elsewhere. God have inspired me to know that our only permanent solution is to desire to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Undoubtedly, this permanent solution is going to happen.
Islam is not new. Furthermore, you know that God rises up prophets from among their own kinds. Since I am Black America’s first genuine prophet God has risen me up from among my own kinds. Consequentially, I would not follow the way of other kinds such as Prophet Mohammad in the Arabian people. Just as God inspired and led Prophet Mohammad and Prophet Moses who were from their own kinds, God is constantly inspiring and guiding me to lead my own kinds, which is Black Americans who are a new race or breed of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. Have I made any sense with you Mr. Abraham?
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, February 10th 2010 at 9:44AM
Harry Watley
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Harry, Again there are no more prophets according to scripture. For Black Americans to believe in you, they must abandon all scripture, they must give up on their ancestry in Africa, they must give up on their race, they must give up on logic and common sense. On top of that they must give up on reason...all things considered, you can be described as dillusional and not worthy of being taken serious.
Wednesday, February 10th 2010 at 12:19PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “Harry, Again there are no more prophets according to scripture.”
It cannot be from our scriptures since we do not have scriptures yet. Therefore, the scriptures that you are quoting from do not govern or speak for Black Americans who are descendents of slaves, and I right. What you are presenting to me to back up your thinking is the Arabian people’s scriptures, am I right. You are using other people’s scripture to say what you are saying to me, and that would make you wrong and a mentally lost Blackman.
Common sense would tell you that since there is more than one scripture or religious books that would indicate that different people or races of people have their own scripture. In other words, God had visited other people in the past as God have since visited us. We should not confuse what God gave to other people since God has given us our own today. Does that make any sense to you Mr. Abraham?
My divine task is to make sense with my people and raise them up out of ignorance in an effort to prepare them to become real people in this world among other real people. It was also Moses divine task to make sense with his people since they were blind, deaf and dumb to the ways of the Egyptians. My people is blind, deaf and dumb to the ways of the Arabian people when it is genetically clear that we are Black Americans and descendents of slaves, am I right. The notion that we cannot adjust to the fact that we are Black people and not Arabian should clearly indicate to all so call Muslims they are blind, deaf and dumb. Right!
Now, how a people gets scripture is by first having a genuine prophet raised up in their midst by the Creator, God. For instance, the Arabian people have Quran scriptures since they had a genuine prophet, Prophet Mohammad who was an Arab man. Consequentially, since we are not Arabian people you do not seem to be very smart quoting Quran scriptures to me when we are Black Americans. Does that make sense to you Mr. Abraham?
You said this, “For Black Americans to believe in you, they must abandon all scripture, they must give up on their ancestry in Africa,”
Yes, what you have said here is true. Now, let me draw a comparison and contrast with Moses to back myself up. Did not the Hebrew people have to come to believe in Moses and abandon the scriptures of the Egyptians? Of course, they had to abandon the scriptures of the Egyptians. However, they found it so difficult to abandon the Egyptian scriptures that all of them in the desert died except Joshua, Kaylyn, and a few others. In addition, Joshua told them that they must choose this day whether they are going to believe in God that brought them up out of bondage in Egypt or will they continue to hold on to the ways of Egypt? In other words, it was unacceptable that they should take the ways of the Egyptian people into their Promised Land. Likewise, I have told you in many Christians that neither Islam nor Christianity will be our religion in our sovereign country. We have our own religion that God has given to us.
In addition, Black Americans do not have any ancestry in Africa and if you think that we do then we must have ancestry in England. I told you before that we are a new breed a race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery when the White slave masters bred themselves to the African slave woman, we, Black Americans came from this breeding. We are neither Africans nor Caucasians. We are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. We have no holdings toward any one and we need a country that God will provide for us.
I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. God had inspired me to know that our only permanent solution is to desire to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way am I right.
Lastly, you said this, “you can be described as dillusional and not worthy of being taken serious.”
You know that what I am saying is true and all you want to do is criticize me the same as how other prophets have been criticized by their own people. Prophet Mohammad was criticized by his Arabian people. The children of Israel told Moses he was delusional also. They told Moses that Pharaoh would never let them go. The Hebrew people had more fear for Pharaoh than they did for God and Moses. It is understandable because they were ignorant people and Moses came to redeem them as I have come to redeem you and the rest of our people. Have I made any sense with you Mr. Abraham?
Do you believe that our only permanent solution is that we become a sovereign people?
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, February 10th 2010 at 9:24PM
Harry Watley
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Sis. Siebra...ASA
"One HYPOCRITE among the Muslims, is worse than one hundred disbelievers, who have never sought to come among the believers".
This is what make Harry so dangerous to Black people and why is is so GREAT that you have pointed this out so others may not be deceived. Thank you Sister
Friday, February 12th 2010 at 3:31PM
jamal Abraham
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WS my brother, you are quite welcome. That article was from Muhammad Speaks, April 30, 1971. BTW, if you all want further clarity on the hypocrites, refer to page 255 of the Messenger's book "Message To The Blackman In America". THANK YOU!!!
Friday, February 12th 2010 at 6:23PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Harry, you need a shower...you stink bad...LOL!!!
Saturday, February 13th 2010 at 8:20PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Saviors Day 2010 approaches and this is a special time of the year...as well as in February. If the great and powerful One God ....Almighty God Himself.....wanted to communicate with me there is a number of ways. Perhaps pass a falling star before my view.....Maybe a flock of birds all of a sudden take off from the ground. Or a spiral of dust..almost dancing in the middle of the road. But, If God needed to raise the dead...that might take some concerted attention...So, He came in the person of Master Fard Muhammad only to communicate directly and He communicated with Elijah Muhammad (PBUH). He(Allah) made this unlearned man wise enough to mobilize ex junkies, winos, thugs, hoodlums, scumbags, prostitutes and 2 bit huslers into productive American citizens...upright in every way....along with a sisterhood deserving of respect marveled by foreign nations. In God's infinite wisdom, should He elect to project himself in accordance with one of His creations....whose choice is it but HIS......Not yours Harry......Almighty God is an independent God and he does what He wills........He merely say Be...and it is.
Saturday, February 13th 2010 at 10:24PM
jamal Abraham
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What comes to my mind is a time when a young child. Living on a farm, we raised chickens raised from baby chicks. My mother would upon occasion go out to the henhouse and take me with her. There was 7 of us total. Anyway she would have me catch one of the chickens and she would take it and before I knew it, she had that chicken across this stump and she would chop of the head of the chicken. Seems like may have turned my head at the sight but remember watching the chicken flap around on the ground for sometime with no head. Remember the headless chicken jumping around and flapping ferociosly fate certain. This reminds me of you, Harry. Your teachings of soverignity has failed. You have failed...would call it being slain. Nothing do I hear from you is adding any value. It is like you cast your rod and liken to Moses, little Abraham has cast his backed by the power of Allah. My wisdom is greater than yours, though I remain grateful.
Saviors Day 2010 approaches and what about it. Will we hear what the Savior would have us do. Will He have us meet the same fate as the Haitians ? This is what that should be spoken about during this Saviors Day. Then, where are we at with the promised land to us. How long can the Nation of Islam get away with saying they are the Nation of Islam and there is no "Nation". When is it said that the Nation of Islam is guilty of dragging its feet ? Should there be new leadership in the Nation of Islam ? Lets talk about it. They vote in America every 4 years. How long should black leaders serve as leaders ? Could that be part of the problem ?
Monday, February 15th 2010 at 1:30AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
You drew a comparison and contrasted my concept of sovereignty as a chicken behaved when your mother cut its head off. You went on to say that I have failed as much as the fate of the chicken is death.
Well, it baffles me how you could reach such a conclusion so quickly. Millions of Black Americans has yet to hear our permanent solution, which is the concept of sovereignty. Many Blacks has yet to hear that we are going to inherit a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. I do not have to deceive Black Americans to give me their monies then buy farmlands and start a chain of Shabazz’s restaurants across the country fooling Black Americans of having complete independence from White America. Is this not what Mr. Elijah Muhammad and the NOI did over the past 80 years of their existence? Please tell me if I am right or wrong.
So, the real failures are Mr. Elijah Muhammad and the body of the NOI that you have been raised in from a little boy, am I right. I know that I am right because you are very discontented with the NOI over the years that they have been in existence.
You are still confused about who is your savior. You believe that this man, Mr. Master Fard Muhammad born in Mecca is somehow your savior. How could your thinking be on the target when Mr. Fard did not come through the same channels that you and our ancestors came through?
Mr. Fard did not experience slavery. Moses experienced slave. We know that God always rose up prophets from among their own kinds and I am of our kinds. Unless you actually believe, that Mr. Fard Muhammad is God in person. If so, then that goes against the Quran’s definition of God. The Quran says that God begets not nor is God begotten and there is nothing liken unto God. The definition means that God is not a man neither could man be God. It is said that Mr. Fard’s father was Black and his mother was White. Well, what sort of Black man was his father? What sort of White woman was his mother? However, was his mother a Black African slave that was purchased from the slave traders in Jamestown, White America by the slave masters? Was his father White English?
Well, the two people that bred were African female slaves and White English slave masters on this continent of America, which however is not Mecca. What is wrong with you thinking? So, who is the savior that the blind, deaf and dumb so-called Muslims embrace? Could you shed some light on this for me as well as all those who reads my responses?
Tell me what you think.
Monday, February 15th 2010 at 12:29PM
Harry Watley
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harry, little abraham and siebra are Mushrikeen----paganWorshipers
harry is not recognized by ANY christians
little abraham and siebra are not recognized by ANY of the 2 Billion Muslims in the world.
Monday, February 15th 2010 at 12:38PM
robert powell
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Hello Robert,
You are absolutely correct about me. I am not recognized by the Black Christians because I am not a Christian. Black Christians are mentally dead and I am not.
Likewise, his people did not recognize Moses since his people were worshipers of the Egyptian religion. The Hebrew people were mentally dead, but Moses was not.
I came to get my people as Moses came to get his Hebrew people and only God could have assigned us to this tremendous task, am I right.
Robert, in addition I am not recognized by so-called Black Muslims. I came to get my people out of Islam as well. As long as Black Americans is worshiping God through another people Black Americans psychologically will always be spiritually inferior to those people whose religion they use to worship God, am I right. For this reason is why the religious leaders were sent along with the explorers to convert the indigenous people they met into their religion. The Muslims use this tactic of conquering people and land as the White explorers did.
However, Black America’s time has come since God rose me up that Black Americans must worship God directly now and not through Islam or Christianity. Does that make sense to you Robert?
Tell me what you think.
Monday, February 15th 2010 at 1:15PM
Harry Watley
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Robert,
It is to the benefit of the Middle Eastern Muslims to recognize the Americans Muslims in the United States. Just because white considered Black Americans as a bunch of "ngrs", thats no reason to disavow us...after all there are about 40 million of us and we are certainly more educated and intelligent then they are. At least there is no war going on between the differant sects of Islam in this country. The only muslims experiencing the due protection for the ONE GOD is those under the teachings of Allah's Last Messenger Elijah Muhammad. Take for instance Luqman Ameen Abdullah A Sunni Muslim Leader operating in Detroit, Michigan. He apparently thought he knew better than the Messenger regarding carrying guns.
Abdullah, 53, was killed Wednesday at a warehouse in Dearborn, shot multiple times by the FBI for resisting arrest it was allegedly reported. This is no way to die as a Muslim. Those that follow the last prophet of God does not meet with fate as this. Messenger Elijah Muhammad died a natural death...no one gunned him down....no one shot the Messenger while handcuffed....NO.....Allah (God) protects his messenger and followers of the messenger much like almighty God has been protecting me since birth. All praises are due to Allah.
Monday, February 15th 2010 at 2:04PM
jamal Abraham
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Harry:
You wrote: Mr. Karim of Seventh Family Website is a very hostile person and blocked me within two weeks. I told him that he was behaving as a schoolyard bully would.
First off, the pot cannot call the kettle black. How can you call Bro. Karim hostile and you are doing wrong. Now the lies and the plot thicken and now we see from the mouth of you Harry that you are the exact opposite of Truth. Everything that you post about the Muslims has all been lies. And you are lying and making it seem as though the Muslims are the one threatening you. You want to claim that the Muslims are insulting and disrespecting you when you did it to us first. Now you find it offensive to be called a pervert or you still want to claim that you are here on BIA to combat ignorance while you have been siding with Satan by going from post to post writing made up gossip about the Nation. And now you want people like me and Bro. Jamal to feel sorry for you? I say to you in the immortal words of Judge Judy, you must think I have STUPID written on my forehead...LOL
What kind of selfish thinking is this for you to encourage the Muslims to agree with your claims? I would never turn to you for salvation. Liars make horrible friends; I am praying for the day when you Harry bear witness to your ugly ways. It is those same ugly ways that Elijah Muhammad would not accept from his people which justified the need for you to merge with satan so that you could become one, or in harmony with his thinking. That's what this whole thing is about, you trying to make right look wrong to justify your wrongs.
It seems that every time that you lose at what you have attempted to do, the best that you can come up with is to spew out a bunch of lies hoping that there are plenty that hates the Muslims when in fact, that is almost impossible to find. So you start a hate club, and persuade the members to support you in your outright defiance for what the Muslims are doing for the liberation of the whole the people. And another thing, if there is one thing that is known about the Muslims, is that we are not hostile and hate-filled as you project us to be. We are not afraid of you or anyone else, so we never resort to using tricks or lies to fool or manipulate anyone and remember, silly rabbit, tricks are for kids...LOL
It appears as though you are banking on me not exposing you anymore because you know what I am sharing is the Truth. Well, I am not Bro. Karim from SeventhFamily.com nor am I Allah either and I'm responding. When you bring in the negativity that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and Min. Farrakhan is very fond of with the attempt to create doubt in so many others is a display of selfishness on your part that was unbelievable until now. The Messenger taught that the Whiteman is the Devil and now you put your faith in the Devil by spewing lies about a people who you have no personal knowledge of. Who is really evil?
No one's interested in you. You keep putting it out there as though you are afraid for your life so much that you have to put out more lies as though the Muslims are bullying you. When in fact, it is the opposite. This doesn't have nothing to do with religion. This is because of the lies that you're caught up in and your refusal to apologize in a sincere way.
You may think that the administration doesn't monitor this site but you know that I keep everything in the open so now the members on BIA are seeing that you are bull****ting them like you attempt to bull**** the Muslims. They are finding YOU out to be a liar of tremendous proportions who is only using them. What do you think that anyone of intelligence (be it Muslim, Christian, or other) is thinking of you based on YOUR actions. So WHO is bullying WHO. So everything that you put out there about the Muslims being hate-teachers and no good, to get back at us because you want it your way, it will come back to haunt you. May not haunt you in the physical Harry, but it will definitely be mentally and spiritually.
It is a damn shame that you are putting out these lies and deceit directed towards the Muslims and the members of this forum. So it looks like what you sent out is now coming back to YOU. Your history of attacking the Muslims on the world wide web is astonishing and for you to attack your Muslim Brother or Sister, the only thing that you can expect to receive is failure from that effort. Now I know what it feels like to experience Wallace Muhammad a.k.a. Imam Warith Deen Muhammad putting out lies against his Father Elijah Muhammad the Messenger all because Wallace couldn't have it his way all of the time.
Monday, February 15th 2010 at 5:12PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Hello Siebra,
Let me briefly explain myself when I use the word bully. Mr. Karim of SevenFamily.com threatened to remove me from the site if I did not stop questioning and challenging the beliefs of the so-called Black Muslims. So, that is why I said to him that he was behaving as a schoolyard bully would.
Furthermore, blocking me tells me that none of you can defend your faith and if you cannot defend your faith, your faith is worthless, am I right. I could never delete or block any one that challenges me because I am that confident in God, my inspiration, my intelligence and myself. Remember, when I come to take your faith from you I am also bringing my faith with me that you all can take a swipe at my faith. So, what is the big problem? Back in the days, we had a saying that to get my ass you have to bring your ass. So, why is the NOI and you so-called Black Muslims afraid of me?
It is a strange story that you all would delete the comments that I make on your blogs instead of chopping me up. In other words, if you have to delete what I say as a way of defending your self you are a weak and sorry individual. Likewise, when you have a blocked me from comment on your site as a means of defending your self the entire site and NOI are a weak and sorry organization.
Now, what lies have I told on the NOI?
I am but one person and I have declared that God is behind me. So, if all you sorry Muslims block me from your websites, then I must be who I say that I am. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet.
I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become real people in this world among other real people. Our time has come and it is through me. The same as when the Hebrew people’s time had come it was through Moses that God was working through, and I right.
In other words, it is not through Mr. Farrakhan or any present and past Black leaders. It is only through me.
Black Americans will inherit a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity within our own way. If you Negroes thinks that we are going to have it easy when we become sovereign at you are sadly mistaken. We are going to become the most intelligent and prosperous people through the natural resources of the earth that the world has ever seen. Everything that I say is going to happen. As time comes, I know more.
What say you?
Tuesday, February 16th 2010 at 2:30AM
Harry Watley
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SAVIOR'S DAY,1967
Reprinted from the March 17, 1967 edition of MUHAMMAD SPEAKS
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said:
GOD HAS RAISED ME IN THE MIDST OF YOU TO INTERPRET FOR YOU
GOD HAS RAISED ME IN THE MIDST OF YOU TO INTERPRET FOR YOU
But false prophets like Harry love to think they can do it..........the Honorable Elijah Muhammad told Min. Farrakhan our people are so dumb they would follow the beating of a drum. And it show with some of the foolishness this false prophet puts on this message board.....it's comical!
I guess the Minister wasn't lying when the talked about how the Antichrist people make you laugh sometimes...LOL
Tuesday, February 16th 2010 at 7:28PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Harry, Hello
The reason some of your comments are deleted because they bear no merit to the subject. Merely slandering divine leadership does not make you courageous....rather ridiculous instead. Islam is a universal religion that transcends continental boundaries. There are the five principles that all muslims must practice. There is fasting which all muslims must practice. There is Ramadan which all muslims must practice. There is recital of the Holy Quran which all muslims must practice. Then, there is the diet, cleanliness and prayer. Every year, millions of Muslims from around the world make the journey to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, for the annual pilgrimage (or Hajj). Dressed in the same simple white clothing to represent human equality, the pilgrims gather to perform rites dating back to the time of Abraham. Thus, it is not easy to be a Muslims......to say, it is a whole more than just belief.....it is a lifestyle.
Almighty God Allah inspires me to make good on one of HIS promises. He described me as the FATHER of a new world made up of Black Americans. Now a 3rd grade child can understand that....though, you seem to have trouble, Harry. Never, have I said to be a prophet...because the wise on the planet earth know there are no more prophets. So everytime you make a comment on one of my blogs that you don't know my role in the 21st century, I merely delete your comment.....because if you cannot understand the word FATHER....then there is nothing to converse about.
You slander the holy scriptures but have not produced no writings of your own. You slander Islam and Christianity but have no religion for us to reason for ourself. ......More and more you are no more than a ball of "nothing" about nothing doing nothing yet you want to critize the most powerful spiritual force on the planet, ISLAM......There is only so much ignorance a person can take in one day so rather just laugh along with Sister Siebra at your folly.
Tuesday, February 16th 2010 at 8:37PM
jamal Abraham
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Again, I believe that the BIA site was developed to shatter stereotypes.
In 1977, I visited the Muslims, in then, communist, Yugoslavia---
One very close brother of mine, He would become my brother in Law, had been studying Arabic and AlQur'aan with me in Egypt and He invited me to his Home. He was physically blond hair(now gray) and green eyes.
All of his relatives and the majority of the Muslims in his home were blond and blue, or green eyed. The Masjid, places of worship, in Sarajevo and other areas were beautiful and the Muslim leaders there were of the strongest Muslims I had ever met.
In 1986, my brother in law, took me to southern Russia and there I again met Muslims; that little abraham, solomon, siebra, steven and the madoffFarrakhan would disparage because of the color of their skin, hair and eyes and envy for their Worship of Allaah.
It should be quite clear that the silliness of Racialism Thought is not a part of AlQur'aan and AlIslaam, ANYONE that disparages My Muslim Brothers, Sisters and Wife because of Racialist paganEuropeanChristian Thought is not in AlIslaam but follows Division of the Family of Adaam.
And, these on this site, are just using the old negro---lazy to read, lazy to study, and lazy to think intellectually stereotype to mislead those that have a Thought for understanding AlIslaam and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as). These simple lazy individuals are upset that a person that is blond, blue-eyed is their Superior in Knowledge of Allaah, AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as).
As for this Blog, the Muslim Family of Elijah Muhammad do not recognize "saviours day" nonsense.
Tuesday, February 16th 2010 at 9:29PM
robert powell
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Saviors Day Approaches when our Savior was born, master Fard Muhammad. Almighty God Allah personified as a man to impregnate one of our kind...a so-called Negro...a nothing people. When HE left, Messenger Elijah Muhammad had the wisdom of no other and you knew it by his works. That is how anyone is judged. For the first time Allah raised up a prophet that was a Black American. I love black people and particular black Americans and am so honored that Almighty God did not raise up an Arab this time or a Jew or a Russian or a Chinese but a Black American. But, due to our conditioning during slavery....and made to hate one another....and made envious of each other...we will accept anyone as a prophet but a once negroe.....That is why Wallace was a master hypocrite because he hated his own and loved other than his own....he hated his fathers teachings but would accept the white man's teachings....so Wallace died a dumb fool.
Tuesday, February 16th 2010 at 11:06PM
jamal Abraham
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TEACH HARD BROTHER JAMAL! TEACH HARD! EAT THEM UP LIKE A BOWL OF BEAN SOUP AFTER A RAMADAN FASTING.
Wednesday, February 17th 2010 at 2:28PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Hello Jamal,
You have deleted my comment, which shows I am who I say that I am. What you are doing to me is what the Arabian people did to Mohammad as well. You cannot grow if you cannot legitimately face those that disagree with you. You are a fool. I will e-mail this comment to all those who comments on your blog.
Jamal you are such an idiot that you even delete the comments I made to others and not just to you. I am indeed Black America’s first genuine prophet. Your actions confirm that I am God chosen one for Black Americans.
Jamal, the Arabian people tried all their evil tactics they could to block Prophet Mohammad. You are among the disbelievers while pretending that you are a believer.
What say you?
Wednesday, February 17th 2010 at 3:34PM
Harry Watley
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"I" on my own chose Minsiter Farrakhann as my Black leader a long, long time ago and after learning that Rev. J. Wright teaches us to never give up our ties to the Mother land or pride in who and what we are no matter what, I added Rev. Wright as another of my Black leaders.I will follow president Obama as long as he follows rev. Wright and Wright follows the same guide lines as the NOI's basics as I under stand them with what little I do know...
Thank you Jamal for all of that information I just learned from you...even someone like Harry I can put up with if it gets me learning more about some of the basic things that we must go through to learn about our race and culture from our point of view by any means necessary.(smile)
Siebra, you r first comment on this blog is the kinds of faith i have always had in my own powers as a person, as a member of this Black race that no person, place or thing can take from me.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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And, before I leave...have you noticed how no matter where you see harry trying to put others down all over every where how those he is trying to put down are able to say, "I have done", "I am doing", while Harry never, never ever say any thing about himself in the first person, beyond I am the first Black American prophet??????????????I will have a nation, a language, a bible,etc in the future if anyone comes to help me do it...does this mean he is ignoring God or just refusing to do what God has INSPIRED HIM TO DO UNTIL SOMEONE DOES IT FOR HIM??????? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL(smile)
Yes, the prophet of those Black people who have no ansestors so how did they come into existance in the first place?????!!!!??? Like you said Jamal it is all in Hary's mind.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Siebra, reading what you just said started me thinking about when harry and co. came on to this BIA site, and which of them started to attack you first....Thinking back these open and constant attacks on you did not start right away...the higher you got on the top blogger list, the more vicious the attacks...and, after a few could not put up with this and left those attacks got more and more...
Thanks lov and I will be making special notes on this, beause if this is going from network social sites with the intent of attacking Muslims this is much bigger than this site!!!!!!
Thanks also to you Jamal...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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