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HEAVEN: We can talk about it Now: GOD SAYS IT IS THAT TIME .....in the Days of Abraham (236 hits)


What is Heaven to you ? it is said a state of mind. Or after you die and found good. But what is that...That provides no better formulation in your mind. What heaven really is ..is a place. If you have no place then what state of mind is there but to find a place. Say your landlord kicked you out of your place...you would begin to have a state of mind to think about your next place....OR you would be out of doors. Little Abraham is only trying to reason with you..knowing that Black Americans have so many differant religions and spiritual ideologies. But, Heaven is a place that puts you in a positive state of mind. Now that, completes the thought and we can talk intelligently. OK...as black people who likes the cold.....You, brother ? ....you, sister ? NO you don't....OK so heaven for Black Americans is a place that puts them in a positive state of mind and is warm to hot most of the time. But, not too hot....rather, tropical. Allah (God) has inspired me to deliver Black Americans to just such a place.

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Saturday, February 13th 2010 at 11:13PM
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Irma..the honor is mine to be your friend (smile)

My position is that information more like sunlight....that shines on the good, the bad and the ugly...sort of speak. It will effect each type differantly....to say that...there are those that seriously want to go to Heaven...It is always on their mind. Certainly this is not the case for the husler on the streets of cleveland or Oakland that may only have a casual thought of Heaven. But, if there was an actual place call heaven and not just some religious metaphor for describing reason for doing good, then this blog is one of many attempts of mine to reason it out.

But, no, I have not read a blog of yours heaven or hell. To me, merely speaking your mind of honesty and truth does not set up the parameters for going straight to hell. Acting on evil thoughts and consequently DOING evil things is another thing.
Sunday, February 14th 2010 at 8:14AM
jamal Abraham
Another thing about Heaven for black people is confinement. Black Americans do not like confinement. We have been locked, chained, suppressed and oppressed long enough for any people. So, Heaven need to offer mobility or in otherwords freedom.
Sunday, February 14th 2010 at 1:05PM
jamal Abraham
We, Irma...your reasoning is understood but, as we have not touched on the emotions of sadness and happiness. And both are very important. This blog is about Heaven as OPPOSE to hell. They are distinct and separate after all. Sending your children off to college and they will embark on the journey of intense educational development will stir sadness emotions much like they stir them in America. These are human emotions that are important to our well being as you already made vividly clear in your remarks. What will be remarkably differant is the oppression over us disguised as red apples like exist in America. Black Americans have only a vague clue of how the American regime continues to oppress them in ways of socialology, economic and motion pictures industries. In short, my divinely inspired plan displaces Black Americans from America into choice lands in Africa that has everything going for it ecologically but when it comes to civilization and moderization, they are hundreds of years behind. In some ways that is good but in so many other ways....it points to the reason so many civil wars still plague many countries in Africa, why political leaders can not implement a smooth process in power changing from one leader to another and the prevailing presence of starvation in so many African nations due to the shifts in population including population growth.

But, to provide a model government based on the best principles having learned from the mistakes in the American and European system of government. A Black ruled government characteristic of a distribution of power form of government is what the One God declares to you and me. It is the application of science technology coupled with the natural beautiful African terrain and natural resources that make for it to be HEAVEN. Though, the emotions that make us human which are creatures capable of hating and loving yet rationalizing makes for the "free will" allowing us to choose good. Though we could choose otherwise. That makes heaven much better in hell for who would want to be in misery continued and wanting to die but cannot. Not me (little Abraham)
Sunday, February 14th 2010 at 5:22PM
jamal Abraham
Hello my brand new site friend.(smile)

Your new friend has never so far fit into any of your out looks on life of there is no such thing as an individual or individual actions in the Black race, ect....like some people do not rent, nor owe the bank any thing that can have them be able to throw them out of their place of dwellings...and, you probable did not see my blog about some of the reasons I don't mind going straight to hell...(smile)

It was about no longer having any fear of going straight to hell for speaking the truth and being in control of my own ability to think for my own self...you see Jamal even when I was a Christian, "I" never wanted to go to heaven..I would have never have said this out loud for fear of someone reminding me how "I" would go straight to hell for that kind of forbidden thinking much less saying it out loud...

"I" was this way because I knew that "I would never be satisfied with behaviors like always smiling in a person's face while at the same time stabing them in the back...I believe that wrong was wrong no matter who did it even the religious leaders, ect. Jamal, I still do, only I do it without fear of going to heaven or hell...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Now, more to what your blog may be about, you selling your book...some people would be more interested in what some one has to say, or sell if they have less of a feel that they are being told what is best for them...as Mozell says, "Just Think" as an adult not in need of being led by the hand to do what they are TOLD to do like a mindless child...(smile)or, because of the color of their skin is maybe even a worst way to look at this issue...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Jamal to me heaven is a place that people want to go to but are not willing to DIE enorder to get there...have you ever heard that expression??smile???


I am one who can not stand sameness...to be happy all of the time (on the rules and regulations not set by me)and never being able to be unhappy with not being able to get away from people you are so uncomfortable being in the same room with seems more like a nightmare than "heaven" to me, Jamal. (smile)

I love dislikeing some people even some members of my own family.LOL
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
NOw my brother Jamal, you and I are on the same page.(smile) Which if you ever pay attention to the "Idea" of heaven / hell it is based on a form of reward or punishment and even worst your must give up respect for so many other fellow human rights to get to this point. example, The Muslims who will kill with the belief that this will get them into heaven......to me is no different than the members of the KKK using hanging a Black, Catholic, gay or Jew will get them into heaven no questions asked...But, I so respect this as being their truth and therefore their right to do what makes them the best persons they can be...

In my Buddhist practice heaven is a state where we are when ...

"HEAVEN (or RAPTURE)-This is a state of intense joy stemming from example, from the fullment of some desire, a sense of physical well-being or inner contentment"and this I can fit into my daily life...The religion of rev. T.J. Jakes says that all of the ansestors of the African-Americans who were never put into slavery will never get into heaven!!!!!!Now you can not deny that Jakes is not an African-American now can you? It is just my choice to not be able to use this in my daily life...MY CHOICE, AND MY CHOICE ALONE...

ME. I AM NEVER EVER GOING TO TURN OVER CONTROL OF MY UNLIMITED POTENTIALS TO BE THE BEST IRMA I CAN BE OVER AGAIN TO ANY MAN, WOMAN OR CHILD UNDER THE GUISE OF IT IS BEST FOR ME b-y A GOVERNMENT, RELIGION, OR MONEY society OR LIFE ITSELF...IN OTHER WORDS I AM GOING TO BE THE DECIDER OF WHAT IS BEST FOR ME, no ifs and or conjunctions.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
First of all I used the death of my child to try and illustrate that sadness, regrets and living in the happy days of the past when she was alive can become an oblicle especially when placing blame or point the finger ...My life is dedicated to over coming obsticle that stand in my way when it comes to not being Stuck on Stupid by way of blame, excuses for my not being happy, because this is my fault not "out there's" fault...


Jamal, I look at life as I do every thing else...it exist for a reason some like my youngest daughter believe it is to please her Christian God, but as she was born in sin she can never be able to do this...again this is her legal and moral right.

My other daughter is a Jehovah Witness. She will have blood given to her as she would have her children if they had needed it while in her care...again this is her legal and moral right...What my oldest daughter does I can use in my daily life...my youngerst daughter I can not. I can not, will not because I will not obey blindly on another presons words that I am less than in any way form or fashion, because i love and respect my own judgment about my self worth!!!!!!

Jamal, from where I sit you are too wrapped up to tightly in what is best for who, what and whom and according to skin color and not individuality...to me (and I always speak only for me on issues like this)one of the many reasons that mind control works no matter what label it is used under...I know you and I are on the same page when it comes to recoginizing something called HUMAN BEHAVIOR...and when it comes to human behavior "I" believe that survival of the fittest is the first and most basic behavior be it race, creed, gender of social classifications / acceptances)...example, it is only the two legged creature who are CIVILIZED therefore says mine is the best and if you do not agree then I will kill you, take you freedoms, lands, distroy your culture, ect!!!!!!!!

Me, Jamal, I believe tha civilization as a difinition exist for one reason...MY RIGHT TO KILL AND DISTROY IS MORE ADVANCED THAN YOURS, BECAUSE MY GOD IS BIGGER AND BADDER THEN YOUR GOD and even you must admit that humans of all colors start wars on their fellow humans and do so with the blessing of their God as on their side) Or my brother Jamal is this my calling a red apple an orange even by your reasonings...these kinds of human behaviors I can not use in my daily life...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Jamal, I do love diloguing with any and all people with an open mind. but, even before becoming a N.D. Buddhist, or having ever heard the word reicardnation(misspell)I believed in this.I have no fear of death nor heaven or hell because of this belief...but, my mind is not restricted by any form of mind control that has me not being able to respect others for their coice to believe different than I do.(smile)

I love learning, priod...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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