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SEN. SCOTT BROWN SAYS: “STIMULUS DID NOT CREATE ONE NEW JOB”. POLITIFACT CALLS IT A “PANTS-ON-FIRE” LIE. (493 hits)

IT’S PERFECTLY REASONABLE TO QUESTION WHETHER THE $862 BILLION WAS WELL SPENT AND WHETHER IT IS GOOD ECONOMIC POLICY. BUT THAT MONEY HAS CLEARLY RESULTED IN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS THAT WOULDN’T EXIST OTHERWISE. IT IS PREPOSTEROUS TO CLAIM THAT NO NEW JOBS CAME OUT OF IT.

Politifact.com. St. Petersburg Times, Feb. 4, 2010


A major theme in Republican complaints about the $862 billion stimulus program is that it didn't deliver enough jobs. Republican Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts took that view to an extreme, claiming that it didn't create any new jobs. Here's what he said during a Feb. 4, 2010, press conference, shortly after he was sworn in.


“The last stimulus bill didn’t create one new job, and in some states the money that was actually released hasn’t even been used yet,” Brown said.


ABC's Jonathan Karl immediately followed up. “It didn’t create one new job?” Karl asked.


“That’s correct. We lost another 85,000 jobs again, give or take, last month,” Brown responded. “And in Massachusetts, it hasn’t created one new job and throughout the country as well. It may have retained some, but it hasn’t created any new jobs."


There are two ways to analyze this question -- looking at jobs created directly by the stimulus, and looking at jobs created in the broader economy since the stimulus bill took effect.


We'll look first at jobs funded directly by the stimulus.


According to Recovery.gov -- the Obama administration's Web site that tracks the stimulus effort -- the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act created or saved 634,042 jobs between Feb. 17, 2009, and Sept. 30, 2009, and it funded 595,263 jobs between Oct. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2009. The data come from reports filed by the primary recipient of stimulus funds such as state and local governments and private-sector companies.


These numbers aren't perfect. They meld bits and pieces of part-time jobs into "full-time equivalent" jobs, and the two periods use different criteria for job counting, due to a change dictated by the Office of Management and Budget in December 2009. (For the earlier of the two periods cited above, the number refers to jobs created or saved; for the later of the two periods, it refers to the number of jobs funded by the stimulus without reference to whether that funding created or saved a job.) Also, the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, concluded in November 2009 that "there are a range of significant reporting and quality issues that need to be addressed" in this reporting system.


So these statistics may overstate the actual number of jobs created. But not by enough to make Brown's zero-jobs claim accurate.


So there's strong evidence that the stimulus has created lots of jobs directly through federal spending. What about the economy as a whole?


Economists have been estimating the impact of the stimulus on jobs by comparing two numbers: current employment statistics and an estimate of what those employment numbers would have looked like had there been no stimulus.


In a report released on Jan. 13, 2010, the president's Council of Economic Advisers estimated that between 1.77 million jobs and 2.07 million jobs were created or saved by the stimulus through the fourth quarter of 2009.


Separately, the council's report cited four independent analyses of the same question. These estimates were by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, as well by three private-sector economic-analysis firms. Here's what those groups found:


• CBO: Between 800,000 jobs (low estimate) and 2.4 million jobs (high estimate) saved or created.


• IHS/Global Insight: 1.25 million jobs saved or created.


• Macroeconomic Advisers: 1.06 million jobs saved or created.


• Moody's economy.com: 1.59 million jobs saved or created.


A couple of caveats: These estimates are based on economic models that vary somewhat from study to study, and not everyone buys the idea that it's possible to measure how the economy would have fared in the absence of a stimulus.


Indeed, some economists, including many conservatives, believe that the multiplier effect from the stimulus is small or nonexistent. "Every dollar Congress injects into the economy must first be taxed or borrowed out of the economy," writes economist Brian Riedl of the conservative Heritage Foundation. "No new purchasing power is created; it is merely transferred from one part of the economy to another. ... Removing water from one end of a swimming pool and pouring it in the other end will not raise the overall water level -- no matter how large the bucket. Similarly, borrowing money from one part of the economy and redistributing to another part of the economy will not create new growth -- no matter how big the stimulus bill."


We acknowledge that there's some dispute on this question. Still, the independent estimates we've seen have credibility, and they all agree that at least 1 million jobs have been created or saved. That, in combination with the hundreds of thousands of jobs cited on recovery.gov as being funded directly by the stimulus, contradicts Brown's assertion that the bill "didn’t create one new job."


But if Brown had chosen his words more carefully, he could have scored better on the Truth-O-Meter.


He's right that the economy as a whole has been losing jobs almost every single month since January 2008. According to a chart prepared by the Obama White House, there has been positive job growth in only one month during that period -- November 2009. (In his press conference comment, Brown actually underestimated the net job losses in December 2009, which was the most recent month for which data was available before he spoke; it was about 150,000, rather than 85,000.)


So if Brown had said that the national economy hasn't seen any net gain in jobs since the stimulus bill was passed, he would have earned himself a True.


A spokesman for Brown, Eric Fehrnstrom, made that point to us in an interview. "The fact is that we have lost jobs every month since the stimulus passed," Fehrnstrom said. "No amount of political spin can change that fact."


But that's not what Brown said. He said the stimulus bill "didn’t create one new job" and, when asked to clarify, he said it "hasn’t created any new jobs." It's perfectly reasonable to question whether the $862 billion was well spent and whether it is good economic policy.


But that money has clearly resulted in tens of thousands of jobs that wouldn't exist otherwise. It's preposterous to claim that no new jobs came out of it. We find his claim Pants on Fire!
Posted By: Richard Kigel
Friday, February 19th 2010 at 12:21PM
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If any of you finds yourself is a dispute with one of your conservative friends on the issue of whether the stiumuls legisltation created jobs, here is some actual data to support the claim that--yes, it has created many jobs.


Friday, February 19th 2010 at 12:23PM
Richard Kigel
You are so right, Irma.

The opposition is angry and passionate--but it is all based on delusions, distortions and lies. They do not have actual facts to support their ridiculous claims.

You know the old saying: A LIE CAN TRAVEL AROUND THE WORLD THREE TIMES BEFORE TRUTH PUTS ON ITS PANTS.

There is only one remedy--and that is spreading the truth.

EDUCTION!! EDUCATION!!! EDUCATION!!!


Friday, February 19th 2010 at 4:27PM
Richard Kigel
Rich, all of this that is happeing like this today is CHANGE that "I" can believe in and yet have fear of the unknown future of my conutry at the same time.examples,

1. We now are witnessing and exodus of career politicans on a scale never seen before!!!!

2. Even long standing political name recognitions seem good enough to get someone like even Evan Byha (whose wife sits on the board and does noting but physically SIT there that guarentees him lobby monies unlimited from that maga business )to be left out of the checks and balances of lobby influnces,...

and lies and campaing promises that has always in teh past keep the public automatically casting emotional and uneducated votes for them!!!!

I am as in shock and unprepared as the next person for this major and it seems just getting started CHANGE and the reality that we can take our government back out of the hands of THE BEST CONGRESS THAT MONEY CAN BUY, quotes.(smile)

Rich, I could be wrong but, I believe the problems now being uncovered at Toyota and these coming law suits are going to lead right back to the lobby controled BEST CONGRESS THAT MONEY CAN BUY...thanks so much for these two much needed blogs, Richard my brother...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Rich, as i write this the CPC convention is introducing senater Ron Paul..right now the Senator is praising the movement of the Tea party...as you know I so admire Senator Paul therefore I must go listen to his speech, because I am about being educated from all sides.(smile)

More about this later and why I spend hours watching C-span's coverage of this convention along with the sound bites of Olbermann and Madow and those on FOX.(sile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
RICH, ALL I CAN SAY HERE AT THE END OF THAT RON PAUL SPEECH IS, "'GOD BLESS AMERICA FOR HAVING A RON PAUL REPRESENTING THE COUNTRY"!!!(smile)

THAT SPEECH WAS THE WORDS THAT NO OTHER POLITICAN IN (MAYBE THE HISTORY OF THE U.S) WILL EVER DARE TO MAKE AND STILL RUN FOR A PUBLIC OFFICE OR IN SOME CASES A JOB...(those conservative would not have ever, ever expected that lecture of Paul's even from President Obama or even Olbermann or Maddow.LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH THE RERUN OF THIS CAPC CONVENTION OF 2-19-10, PERIOD...

REP. R P ENDED HIS SPEECH WITH WORDS LIKE THESE AS A REBUTE OF THOSSE YOUTH THAT WERE THE FOCUS OF today's S PART OF THIS CONVENTION. ..
before the spech of RP one of the youths representing the STUDENTS FOR LIBERTY had talked about our freedoms come all at once and we do not need to try and get it piece meal..

therefore REP.RON PAUL'S REPLY TO THIS WAS " IN AMERICA WE DO NOT HAVE FREEDOMS BECAUSE WE ARE INDIVIDUALS, WE HAVE FREEDOMS BECAUSE WE _______ - AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "I" jumped out of my chair giving praise, allegance still to this man who dares speak the truth...and, also as those at this Tea party backers stood giving this great man a standing ovation...as his speech went on the whole time the people at that convention were giving him applaudes all of the time or just not being able to hide the disgust and regrets they were now having for having allowed this man there in the first place...

and, by the way at the end he reminded all that he does not accept lobby funds to run his campaing yet he still sets contrabution records. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL(smile)

and, Rich, I know this is just dressing for what president Obama is going to deliver next week to those 'conservative Republicans, oh Paul talked about them also.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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