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BLACK CHRISTIANS: Why only use HALF the Bible....NO>>>must use all the BIBLE in the days of Abraham ! (547 hits)


From a child was taught that the Bible was sent to the Black Americans. It was intercepted by white people;;;;;some people say Jews;;;;;;;but this is not my point. Now in America when Black Amricans friends invite me to their church...they just want to preach from the New Testament. What is this ? When they sent me to college and grad school; they made us read the entire book. In Physics, they made me read the entire book; in Electromagnetic Fields and Waves, they made me read the entire book. In an elective Ecology....they made me read the entire book. But the white people have Black Americans going by only half of Gods word not all of it. Fie on that..In the days of Abraham..If you are a Christian, then be a good Christian and read all of the Bible. If you say that your religion is Jehovah Witness, then read all of the book and be a good Jehovah Witness...Because you will find the name Abraham all through the book. But, you will not find the name Jesus all through the book. But, please check it out for yourself...Abraham is not one you should not take serious. It is the Black Americans time to have some of this land for our homeland...and we are looking at 5 countries in Africa. To set up as a model kingdom of God.
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Tuesday, March 16th 2010 at 8:00PM
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Hello little Abraham,

Let me help you out since you do not know. The reason the Christians is interested in the New Testament is that they believe Jesus to be their Lord and Savior.

In other words, to the Christians the Old Testament is incidental to the New Testament. Abraham to the Christians carries no weight next to Jesus. Any simple-minded person could have figured that out, Abraham.

Next, your name is Abraham because your mother or somebody liked the name Abraham for you. In other words, your name being Abraham has nothing to do with the patriarch Abraham of the Hebrew people in the Bible. You are just as nutty as a fruitcake.

Furthermore, the Bible is not the religious guiding book of Black Americans. Our religious book is forthcoming since we are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. In addition, in our 500 years of existence God have just recently visited us. Therefore, everything that divinely comes to us will be new as well. Our religion is also new. Our religion is, LIFE. It carries the same blessings from God as when God blessed the Arabian people with Prophet Mohammed and Islam.

God also blessed Black Americans with the religion of Life and rose up a genuine prophet for us, Prophet Harry. Am I making any sense with you, Jamal?

The fact that Black Americans wants and clings to other people’s things is an indication that we are still followers of others. We are still a slave minded people to want other people’s things and not desire to have our own, am I right. Our mentality indicates inferior thinking. All this means that those, as Elijah Muhammad, Mr. Fard Muhammad, Dr. King, Mr. Noble Drew Ali and Mr. Marcus Garvey who came before me were as ignorant and inferior as you all behave today. Consequentially, I am here to correct all that. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet.


In other words, just as the Exodus was done through Prophet Moses our sovereignty will be done through Prophet Harry.

So, please stay out of the Bible and the Quran, okay.

Tell me what you think.

Tuesday, March 16th 2010 at 11:05PM
Harry Watley
The Bible is and will always be an important book to the black Americans when properly understood. Black Americans can find themselves in the stories of the ancients. Many of the similar issues facing past civilizations are facing us today, only in a more advanced technologically form. When you speak of lazerus at the rich mans table begging for just a crumb from the master ..that is absolutely the Black man and woman of the United States.
Tuesday, March 16th 2010 at 11:24PM
jamal Abraham
Hello Jamal,

Black Americans born into slavery could think no other way than to follow the beliefs and ways of other people. In other words, Black Americans will always believe that everything in life is important to them except themselves, am I right.

For instance, look at what you said, “The Bible is and will always be an important book to the black Americans when properly understood.”

But, what about Black Americans having a religious book as the Bible and the Quran is to the Arabian people?

So, I am led to ask you this question little Abraham. What is the Bible? What is the Quran? Let me give you my answer and you tell me if I am wrong.

The Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people to the world over of how God helped them in their times of troubles as well as personally helped them. The Bible speaks of events, incidences and circumstances directly concerning the Hebrew people, am I right. God rose up many prophets from among the Hebrew people such as Moses being one of them.

Now, the Quran is the testimony of the Arabian people to the world over of how Allah (God) came into their lives and resolved their paganism. The Quran speaks of events, incidences and circumstances directly concerning the Arabian people, am I right. God rose up Prophet Mohammed from among the Arabian people such as Prophet Mohammed.

Okay, why then Black Americans not have our own religious book of guidance since God have visited us and rose up Prophet Harry. Is this not following the same path as what happened in ancient times?

In other words, why Black Americans have to follow and accept the things of others to be so important to us over what God has for us?

Tell me what you think.


Wednesday, March 17th 2010 at 10:10AM
Harry Watley
Harry, get off this post you are BIAS so your opinion don't count.
Wednesday, March 17th 2010 at 5:00PM
Siebra Muhammad
Brother Jamal, peep this excerpt from an article written by Brother Silis Muhammad:

For In Isaac Shall Thy Seed Be Called (PART 1)

There are so many untruths told today, that it is difficult for many of my people to distinguish which is truu and which is false. The Bible is just so mixed up with falsehood. Man, a human being, is tampering with the Books, trying to change prophecy, trying to keep the Truth hid from the people. The time is extremely short. In the short time that we have left in America, I would like to see all of my people arise from their spiritual sleep, but some, who hear the Truth and know it, will not be able to live it.

That is the distinction which our forefathers, many years ago, sought to bring about in the Earth-the distinction between those who could live the life of a righteous Muslim and those who lip-profess that they are Muslims. This article centers around Abraham, Sara, Hagar, Ishamel and Isaac-more specifically, Ishmael and Isaac.

Abraham was the last messenger between the two worlds, the world of good, and the world of evil. At that time, we wanted to bring an end to the confusion; we wanted to establish peace in the Earth. So, we wrote prophecy, foretelling events to come. We projected that through Abraham, the good Seed(the good Child), would fall into a spritiual death or the grave-not a physical, literal grave: and that in the Last Day that good Seed would be resurrected from a spiritual grave

ABRAHAM'S SON

Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac. The Old-World teachers generally follow the path of Isaac through Jacob and afterwards they derive or come to Jesus of 2,000 years ago. Rarely ever do the Old-World teachers follow the path of Ishmael to learn which direction did his Seed take and what is to become of his Seed. Today, it is time for that knowledge to be revealed. My topic is FOR IN ISAAC SHALL THY SEED BE CALLED. Could it be that the Preachers, the Imams and the Popes misunderstood that prophecy? What does it mean?

First, let us understand that this Abraham conversing with Abraham's God. God said to Abraham, "For in Isaac shall thy (your) seeed be called." What does it mean? Does it mean that Abraham's Seed (which is in Isaac) shall give rise to the ultimate Holy Nation? There is to come about a Holy Nation that is to rule the Earth forever.

If you do not examine it and just accept what the Old-World teachers have to say about it, then you man conclude that they are correct exactly.Or, does that statement mean that Abraham's Seed (which is in Ishmael) who was cast out, after a process of time, would be called by Abraham's Seed (which is in Isaac)... and that, thereafter Ishmael's Seed would give rise to the ultimate Holy Nation?

The issue will turn upon the word "called." That word carries the meaning of having an inner urge towards a certain action, or profession, or religious vocation, divinely inspired. Can we conclude correctly that Abraham's God, through Isaac, is going to divinely inspire Isaac such that Isaac is going to be called to establish the ultimate Holy Nation? In Genesis 17:19 Abraham's God, with the intent to establish His Covenant with Isaac, said to Abraham, "Sara, your wife, shall bear a son indeed and you shall call his name Isaac."

Can the alleged religious vocation correctly be stated as that Covenant which Abraham's God intends to make with Isaac? Where in the Scrpitures does Abraham's God promise to do or to forebear from doing an act, for the benefit of Isaace...in exchange for the forbearance of an act by Isaac.

Where did God promise Abraham or Isaac that He is going to benefit Isaac, and that Isaac should stop doing something or start doing something? In Genesis 22:12 Abraham's God did tell Abraham "Lay not your hand upon the lad," when Abraham attempted to slay Isaac for a burnt offering. A ram was provided in place of Isaac. Is that a promise made to Isaac by Abraham's God, or is that apromise made to Abraham's God? You will conclude, after reading it, that it is a promise made to Abraham concerning Abraham's Seed. It is not a promise made to Isaac asking Isaac to forbear from doing this or that, or to do this or that. (Rather) it is a promise requiring Abraham to do this and not to do that-to lead a clean life, to walk in the ways of God. In the Bible, we refer to is as circumcision and that too had been mistaken. All that we had reference to is cleaning yourself-live a clean life, Abraham, and at the time that the commandment was made, Abraham commenced to live the clean life. We asked Abraham to circumise all of the males, including himself, and he did so at the age of 90.

On the other hand, when Abraham's God said to Abraham in Genesis 22:18, "In your seed shall all the nations of the Earth be blessed," a covenant might have arisen between Abraham's God and Abraham's Seed since Abraham did do what God asked him to do. But (at the point in time) that Covenant is upon Abraham's Seed not Abraham, for Abraham's Seed Isaac is not yet born at the time of the statement, "For in Isaac shall thy seed be called." Isaac was not yet born. Through which Seed would all of the nations be blessed? Is it Abraham's Seed in Isaac, or is it Abraham's Seed in Ishmael? Is it Abraham's Seed in Isaac after the Seed in Isaac cooperates with the Seed in Ishmael, or is it the Seed in Isaac independant, totally and completely, of and Seed in Ishmael? I want to teach you the truth of the Scripture.

[b]KINDRED NATIONS

The Convenant that God makes with Abraham concerning Abraham's Seed (specifies) that this Seed would be of such nature that, in it, all the nations of the Earth would be blessed. Do not get confused by that word "all." If you look closely at the Bible, it means all kindred nations. We do not mean all nations of whatever color, for the white man nation, in this day, is not to be bllessed. (Rather) all Black, Brown, Yellow and Red nations will be blessed as a result of this covenant. There is something that Abraham's Seed should do, or forbear from doing, such that through Abraham' Seed, all kindred nations shall be blessed. Which one of Abraham's sons is to fulfill that particular promse? Is is Ismael or is it Isaac? Abraham had to sons, Ishmael, the first-born and Isaac, the second born. You don't hear much about Ishmael, but you hear a lot about Isaac. Isaac had twin sons, Esau and Jacob. There the Reverends leave off the talk of Esau and they follow the line of Jacob, and from Jacob, they come to Jesus of 2,000 years ago.

From Jacob, the son of Isaac, you have the Jewish people coming into the picture with their untruth, claiming that they are Jacob's seed and that they are that particular Holy People that is to establish the ultimate Holy Nation.

Another line went out through Esau, Jacob's brother. Esau left Canaan (today called Palestine and Israel) and went into Mecca, Arabia, to marry amid his uncle's family. And from this union between Esau and his uncle Ishmael's family, the Arabs now claim to be the offspring of Ishamel. The Jewish people now claim to be the offsprings of Isaac. Here you have the Arabs to your left, claiming to be the Seed of Ishamel through Isaac's son, Esau. Then you have the Jewish people to your right, clamimg to be the Seed of Jacob, Isaac's son. Both of them are attempting today to occupy one piece of real estate-based upon the claim that "In Isaac shall thy seed be called." The Jewish people claim that they are God's Chosen People and the Arabs claim that they are God's Chosen People. Both groups claim to be the benefactors of that prophecy.


Wednesday, March 17th 2010 at 5:09PM
Siebra Muhammad
You made my day, Sis Siebra.As Salaam Alaikum...It bears witness to the inspired drive of mine from Allah to carry out HIS work. While in Egypt in a vision, Allah inspired me of being a offspring of Ishmael with a purpose. And that a new nation of God is destined for Black Americans. That as father of this new nation must transition a number of truthful and righteous black Americans from America to Africa. But this piece by Bro. Silas Muhammad goes into the history of Abraham and it is so clear that Isaac is one of the characters of the Bible inserted to replace Ishmael as inheritor of the Holy nation. This passage zeroes in on the role of Abrahams seed to God's Chosen People. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad proclaimed us the Chosen People to rule Gods nation and according to scripture, it must came by the seed of Abraham.

Thanks Sis. Siebra....
Wednesday, March 17th 2010 at 7:01PM
jamal Abraham
Hello Siebra,

You said this, “Harry, get off this post you are BIAS so your opinion don't count.”

Now, really Siebra, you could show more intelligence than just to say, Harry you are BIAS, am I right.

I laid out in detail my argument and all you could say is that I am bias? You need to do a lot better than that, intellectually speaking.

Black Americans have been an ignorant people for all of our existence and it is about time that we change and intelligently tackle the challenges that come to us, right.

Now shifting gears to Mr. Silis Muhammad’s article.

Mr. Silis Muhammad said this, “Could it be that the Preachers, the Imams and the Popes misunderstood that prophecy?”

Now, could it be that Mr. Silis Muhammad has mis-understood the Bible as well, since the Bible has nothing to do with Black Americans? The Bible is the Jewish people’s testimony to the world of how God had helped them in their times of trouble as well as personally helped them so that their descendents would appreciate there is a God that helped them, am I right. They celebrating the Passover for the past 4000 years is evident of how God has helped them in their times of trouble, am I right.

Furthermore, Black Americans are not the same people as was Abraham, Isaac and Ishmael. Black Americans are entirely a different people. Why is that so difficult for you all to understand? You all have this slave mentality of wanting to be a part of everybody else’s thing and not having any desire to have your own. God is giving us our own as God has given others their own thing. I am living proof that God is giving us our own when I tell you that we are going to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. Now, what is wrong about what I just said?

So, Mr. Silis Muhammad does not know what he is talking about, he is just extrapolating on what others have said. Mr. Silis Muhammad does not understand he is not a real Muslim since he is not Arabian born. This man as all Black Americans is mentally dead.

Now, show me that I am wrong about anything I have just said and please leave all of the criticism, okay.

Tell me what you think.






Thursday, March 18th 2010 at 12:15AM
Harry Watley
Hello Abraham,

You need to have more intelligence than you show. Your name is Abraham because your mother or someone like that name and gave it to you. The name Abraham has no inherent divine power for you. After you understood from my posts that I am Black America’s first genuine prophet you decided you could be little Abraham in the Bible, am I right. I know this because you would never be linking yourself to anyone in the Bible since the Bible is the testimony of the Jewish people to the world of how God has helped them in their times of trouble, am I right.

Secondly, since the Bible is the Jewish people’s testimony Isaac and not Ishmael is the preferred son. You Negroes are entirely out of control about the Bible.

I have repeatedly been saying to you all to get out of the Bible except for the book of Exodus. The book of Exodus is only to be use as a comparison and contrast to our plight in White America. Fundamentally, it assures us of a way out of our plight, am I right.

Tell me what you think.

Thursday, March 18th 2010 at 12:27AM
Harry Watley
Harry,

It turns out that there is a direct blood line from Ishmael to myself as conveyed by God during my trip to Egypt. This is the entire point of my divine mission. Not knowing...happen to be born to both African American muslim parents. Now, what is the chances of that. Both my mother and father, African Americans had converted to the teachings of Elijah Muhammad by the time that I was born. Then went to a Muslim school, the first in the United States. So when it comes to Islam, you have not a clue what you are talking about. Islam in a universal religion fit for human beings all over the planet earth. You do not have to be an Arab to be a Muslim. You are so off base that it sometimes waste my time just to respond. But, I respond for the sake of other readers.
Thursday, March 18th 2010 at 10:59AM
jamal Abraham
This blog is about black Christians using only half of the Bible. How would the Christians like it God only hears their prayers half of the time. Or what if God only responded to the Black Christians plea half of the time. It is bias and wrong to believe and accept only Half of a book just because some layed off black worker now saved says to do so.
Thursday, March 18th 2010 at 7:42PM
jamal Abraham
Seems pretty arrogant for Christian Pastors and Preachers to change Christian dogma that has already been changed enough.
Sunday, March 21st 2010 at 9:09PM
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