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Black Americans can argue until blue in the face about which religion is best as God word. Having experienced ghetto and black neighborhoods in America with blacks of differant religions as neighbors....can Black American Muslims live along with Black Christians, Jehovah Witness, Buddhist, Atheist and others. There are some that claim that only their religion should be accepted as worthy in the kingdom of God. So many religious wars have been fought putting families against each other. Jesus spoke to "do unto your brother that which you would have him do unto you ". that should work for any man. A man wanting good done to him would then only do good to his brother. That does not work in America because one brother is denied for whatever reason and the other brother is accepted. The discrimination practices puts brother against brother. There is little that can be done in America about it. But, in land governed by Black Americans, equitable legislation can be passed that allows for each brother to share in the wealth. The divine plan calls for black Americans to united behind the establishment of the nation. Let the land unite us. The land can transcend differances but each citizen will have a equal stake into its prosperity. Being truthful and righteous should prevail over subtle differances in beliefs. Where there are major differances...then the Father can iron out matters with both parties....since all the religions revere Abraham, the friend of God.
Posted By: jamal Abraham
Friday, April 2nd 2010 at 8:00PM
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According to paganChristianThought, there was no beginning, just like the paganChristian felt that there was nothing in New World, Africa, Asia---that only HisStory was important to his version of The Children of Adaam.
But AlIslaam as defined by AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as) has been the source of knowledge of the Believers for 1431 years and the 2Billion Muslims of 2010.
Best English Transliteration and Meaning of Original Arabic of AlQur'aan--I ask only Allaahs forgiveness if I have made a mistake.
Bismi Allâah
ArRahmaan IrRaheem
Sûrat Al-Ikhlâs TaHa
1. Tâ-Hâ.[These letters miracles of AlQur’âan, and none but Allâah knows their meanings].
2. We have not sent down AlQur’âan, Muhammad Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã to cause you distress,
3. But only as a Reminder/Admonition to those who fear Allâah.
4. A revelation from He Who has created the earth and high heavens.
5. The Most Gracious Beneficent firmly established on (Istawâ) the Throne, in his manner that suits Him.
6. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and on the earth, and all that is between them, or beneath them.
7. And if you Mohamed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã utter this invocation aloud, then Truly, He knows the secret and that which is yet more hidden.
8. Allâah! Lâ ilâaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He)! To Him belong the Greatest Names.
Sûrat Al-Ikhlâs or At-Tauhîd
(The Purity)
1. Say Mohamed Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã: "He is Allâah, the One.
2. "Allâah-us-Samad (ÇáÓíÏ ÇáÐí íÕãÏ Åáíå Ýí ÇáÍÇÌÇÊ) [Allâah the Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, (He neither eats nor drinks)].
3. "He begets not, nor was He begotten.
4. "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."
Sûrat AlBaqara
255. Allâah! Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (The Ever Living, The One Who sustains and protects all that exists). Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. There is nothing that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to His creatures in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. His created will never grasp anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursî extends over the heavens and the earth. He feels no fatigue in guarding, protecting and maintaining them. And He is The Most High, The Most Great. [Ayat-ul-Kursî]
Sûrat Al-Anbiyâ
30. Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
31. And We have placed on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them, and We placed therein broad passages for them to pass through, that they may be guided.
32. And We have made the heaven a roof, safe and well guarded. Yet they turn away from its signs (sun, moon, winds, clouds,).
33. And He it is Who has created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit floating.
Sûrat As-Sajdah
4. Allâah has created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them in six Days. Then He rose over Istawâ; the Throne, in a manner that suits Him Alone. Mankind have none, besides Him, as a Walî (protector or helper) or an intercessor. Will you not then remember?
5. He manages and regulates every affair from the heavens to the earth; an affair will go up to Him, in one Day, the space which is a thousand years in our belief of world’s time.
Sûrat Al-‘Alaq
1. Read! In the Name of your Rabb, Who has created all that exists.
2. He has created man from a clot, a piece of thick coagulated blood.
3. Read! And your Rabb is the Most Generous.
4. Who has taught by the pen.
5. He has taught man that which he knew not.
6. No! Truly, man does transgress in disbelief and evil deed.
7. Because he considers himself self-sufficient.
you little may continue your belief in paganChristianThought, but as a Muslim, I choose AlQur'aan as my source of Belief.
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I have backed up to AlHayy, AlQayyum, AlKhalq, AlWahid, AlSamad, AlAliyy, AlKhabeer, AlRaqeeb, AlHakeem, AlMuhyii, AlMuakhkhir, AlAwwal, and more........
I gave you AlQur'aan.
I Believe LaIllaaha Illaahau wa Mohamed RasulAllaah
you dribble, "A scientist must define all conditions with the tools and definitions available at the time"
So Belief in AlIslaam is not a tool or definition that little can use?
your understanding is why Our Father Elijah, referred to negroSlaves as The Dead.
Al Qur'aan is the --- Word--- of The Creator, AlHakm.
you say, "you grew up as a baby eating pigs feet"
Science and Reality
1. babies do not eat lamb or pig feet
2. i was born in Europe and my mother was treated as a queen by my father, who only fed us vienerSchnitzel, and a variety of North Sea Delicacies.
3. i did not arrive in usa until 6; and my mother never served pork--
4. she did smoke a lot so you can insult me by saying; "robert grew up with second hand smoke"
5. you do not have to LIE and get mad at Truth ALL the Time little guy
6. what a sickIgnorant puppy you are showing us now.
Well,
1. little guy; all my comments on BIA can be researched.
2. i do think you have an issue with observing, comprehending Truth and AlIslaam
3. i am, like 2 Billion Muslims worldwide, a Believer in AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed---AsShadullaahillah Illallahu wa AsShaduannaMohamed Rasul Allaah.
4.Fard Muhammad is someone I knew and prayed to Allaah with, I was present at the marriage of 1 of his sons. one of his grandsons is presently in America and is looking to get married and he and I will testify that NO one in his Family ever made a statement that he was divine. 100s of members of the Family of Elijah Muhammad in 2010 do not think of him as divine and He, before His death asked the forgiveness of Allaah if his pressence led DISBELIEVERS to Hell.
5. I loved Our Father Elijah Muhammad and LOVE his family---we have made Haj or Umra many times.
6. little is just mad at the Truth, I give him AlIslaam and AlQur'aan and He is just angry that he is not able to understand.
7. I did call a Deleter, anal excrement.
8. farrakhanMadoffs Saviours day was Attended by HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY OF ELIJAH MUHAMMAD???????????????????????/
Saturday, April 3rd 2010 at 7:48PM
robert powell
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Irma...how are you..so nice of you to drop by(smile)
Black Americans can live together with each other of mixed religion under the right conditions. Unity has been preached from the pulpit at mosques, temples, and churhes since the start of the 20th century. Here we are over 100 years later and no real unity to speak of. The people is that there has never been the "thing" to unify around. But "land of our own"...is that very thing. Think about it if a black christian and black muslim living in Africa on their own land....of which that land is related to their involvement in the host countries industrial development...that each brother wants their mutual efforts to be successful. It would be like at work at professional corporations. No one worries about the others religion....but share in the need to get the job done.
As far as religion of Harry, Robert and Solomon....My thinking is that Robert and Solomon are Muslims...but Harry....who knows ? or in other words who cares...you would have to ask him. I really don't carry the distinctions of sects like most Muslims do....some are Shiite, some are Sunnah, some are this and some are that....who cares...certainly I don't nor is the distintion made in the Holy Quran. Much like Christianity...with all their denominations. ....the Bible do not speak of 1 denominations over the other...it is only man.....that make these distinctions so prevalent.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 10:34AM
jamal Abraham
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Robert, there are many things outside of the scope of the Holy Quran...for example it speaks about Paradise with gardens and rivers and the raised couches..but does it say what the homes in paradise will look like ? NO, it does not....man home is his castle and there will be homes for man in Paradise or Heaven which is the new World. Also, it does not mention "all" of the food we will eat in Paradise. Just because it is not within the confines of the Quran cover, does not make it to not exist. And that is why so many of the Muslims of 1400 years ago teachings are so far obsolete....because there are things out side of the Quran that exist. There was a time when there was Nothing of this universe....it is out of nothing that something was self created ....which defines the creator....He created HIMSELF out of NOTHING. If there was something..anything here at the time of the so-called creator....then he was not the creator but the original MAKER....because by definition a creator starts from scratch. Again...robert my wisdom proves to by about 1400 years superior than yours.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 1:30PM
jamal Abraham
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little thought,
you say?, "Again...robert my wisdom proves to by about 1400 years superior than yours."
i do not understand the words that are coming out of yourMind!
again little guy your struggle is not with robert, it is with AlIslaam and Alqur'aan.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 3:03PM
robert powell
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Robert, Robert, Robert...(shaking my head):
Based on your response to Bro. Jamal, I take it that you reject that part of the teachings of Islam. Jamal only cited the very words of what Islam, Christianity, and Buddhism is about (peace). It is clear that you don't believe in peace otherwise you would not have responded to this blog in the foul, devilish manner that you did.
Jamal started a blog that addresses the topic of Black Americans of mixed religions living together in peace and unity and all you do is come with DISUNITY. Irma, Clark and I are of the same thinking as Jamal, even though we are of mixed religions, we could still unite behind a common denominator, LAND, because none of us have any.
See brother you can't cherry pick from the teachings of Islam and represent yourself as a true believer, you have to believe in all of the teachings, it is clear you don't. You don't believe in Black Americans coming together on a common square, you don't believe that we should seek a home land that we can call our own.
If you did you wouldn't have responded with so much hostility in a blog dedicated to peace and unity. You're a half a believer, you believe in some of the teachings and not all of them, which means you're really not a believer at all. I'm going to keep complaining, belly aching, and doing other things until we have land of our own.
P.S. You're lucky today is the anniversary of the Dr. King assassination or I would have chastised you a lot worse.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 3:44PM
Siebra Muhammad
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As-Salaam Alaikum Brother Jamal:
Below is a quote from Elijah Muhammad's book "The Fall Of America" (Ch.1):
We must unite at all costs. Once united, we must stand fully packed as a wall against injustice. If your brother does not want to unite with you, then you must teach him, cajole him, urge him, and persuade him by all methods available until he realizes that he, too, must give his all on the altar of justice. For what if ten million of us die in the process, the remaining seven million or more of us will enjoy freedom, justice and equality!
CASE CLOSED!!!
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 3:51PM
Siebra Muhammad
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Absolutely correct, Sis. Siebra.................you brought very interesting point. What kind of black persons would that that unity and peace is not possible with his people.....when he claims to be a worshipper of the religion(Islam) of peace? Sounds like someone(robert) is fooling themselves.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 6:46PM
jamal Abraham
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Again, again for the less comprehensive negroMind,
The Creator did not make a "blackAdaam", "whiteAdaam", "redAdaam", "yellowAdaam";
Allaah, AlKhalq made Adaam the Father of all Men.
yourRacialist arguments are NOT in AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as).
yourRacialist Thought is your Belief in paganChristianity as taught to the negro by Europeans to Divide the Family of Adaam on physicalFeature lines.---
Thats Demonic by Definition.
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 9:45AM
robert powell
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Irma...Are you kidding
If there were not significant differances between Buddhist and N D Buddhist...you would not make such a big point of it....Do you have evidence that both can get along together peacefully...And there is always some old grouch mad at the world like robert in every religion don't you think ?
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 10:22AM
jamal Abraham
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After hearing the news about what just happen in South Africa, I would think that a lot of secret killings might be going on to discourage and put fear into the minds of Black people, because a couple of Blacks murdered a White supremist.
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 1:16PM
Helen Lofton
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Irma...can you stop your bull**** for one second
What I said is that I am not up on the differances between Buddhism and ND Buddhism....If you want someone to appreciate the subtle differance that state them...as for me....Buddhism is not a serious interest of mind....but I am aware of Buddhism and what the practices are......just as you are not aware of all the subtle differances between the differant sects of Islam....
So if you want to make someone aware of differances...that state them...but don't try to split hairs with me on buddhism....In America....with the Asian population increasing, I'm sure we are going to hear more about the Buddhism ideology...but as for right now...Buddhism is relatively quiet on the world stage.....
Tuesday, April 6th 2010 at 11:39AM
jamal Abraham
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Irma, no matter the sects...there is only one Islam. Most sects have to do with which prophets a people want to delete from their honor listing. But, the religion is based on the same principles. Islam as an instrument for salvation is differant when used in peacetime....That is where one may think it is differant because of the conditions prevalent in the nation the people are in..
Tuesday, April 6th 2010 at 1:56PM
jamal Abraham
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Irma, have you EVER dealt with an educated black man in the sciences...Sure does not sound like it....if you have a question...then ask one(1) not 10 in one sentence. I will answer 1 of your questions.
By a differant sect in Islam is meant : Shi'a, Sufism, Ahmadiyya, Sunni, World community of Islam and Nation of Islam.............Remember, it is much easier to criticize than find answers....
Wednesday, April 7th 2010 at 7:21AM
jamal Abraham
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FOR ALL WHO TALK ABOUT 'LAND OF OUR OWN' HOW WILL THIS COME ABOUT...WILL YOU BE BUYING THE LAND (as "I" have and have a deed of proof) OR IS THIS LAND TAHT HAS BEEN CHOSEN FOR YOU AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TAKE POSESSION OF IT OR WAHT????
WHERE IS IT...
WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO HAVE ALREADY MADE CLAIM TO IT ALREADY...
...is there any way to get something specific other then the run around...one like me only expect to complete the fact that death is a natural part of living...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Jamal, as usual your logic is all over the emotional chart. example, Are you saying taht a sect and A Religion are the same thing and the Islam religion can change it meanings at will...do you mean when at peace as amoung the Muslims on this site or when at war with another country / religion?????Or is it what you say it is and this is it??? (smile)
But, you really don't have to answer me Jamal, because you will only change it all again so I have moved on as I usually do when I get bored with this going in circles with you as I know you will have it in otherblogs as you always do....
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Jamal, I will just throw this out there as someting taught in Critical Thinking classes on the subject of the use of the word A-L-L...
THERE IS NO WAY TO KNOW "ALL" BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT TO GET TO KNOW A-L-L IS TO ACTUALLY PROVE THAT YOU CAN EVEN MEET A-L-L ...
BECAUSE OF A LITTIL THING CALLED LIFE IS A BALANCE OF DEATH THEREFORE BEFORE ONE PERSON CAN GET TO KNOW ALL SOME OR EVEN ONE OF THE ALL WOULD HAVE DIED AND ANOTHER WILL HAVE BEEN BORN WHICH WILL CHANGE THAT A-L-L THAT ONE STARTED OUT WITH.(smile)
Plus, in my belief of treating others as I want to be treated, demands my respecting the other's choice of all of the freedoms that "I" want and need for my self. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Jamal, you have just proven that the prEmise of your argument for this blog is only something that as always you must keep changing your main point. example,
YOU JAMAL JUST SAID THAT YOU HAVE NO KNOWEDLEGE OF THE PRACTICES OF BUDDHISM AND YET YOU TRUN RIGHT AROUND AND SAY YOU QUALIFY TO TEACH ME ABOUT HOW I AM A BUDDHIST AND NOT A N.D. BUDDHIST...
I IN TURN HAVE SAID TAHT AFTER EXPERIENCING YOU AND ROBERT AND A FEW OTHERS ON THE SITE, MY ANSWER WAS A NO...I DID NOT SAY I HAD TO EVEN KNOW ANY THING ABOUT THE MUSLIM FAITH OR PRACTICE...I USED ACTUAL PROOFS OF 'MY' EXPERIENCE BECAUSE JUST GOING ON COMMON EVERY DAY COMMON SENSE I REALIZE THAT THEIR MUST BE DIFFERENT OUT LOOKS, AS RELATED TO THE MUSLIM FAITH, PRACTICE, BELIEFS ANND FAITH IN SAID RELIGION (S)BECAUSE "I" BELIEVE IN INDIVIDUALS ALONG WITH THEIR RIGHTS TO PRACTICE THINGS THAT MAKES LIFE BETTER AND SAFER AND SECURE...AND THAT IT IS NOT MY PROBLEM NOR MY DESIRE TO IVE THEIR LIVES IN "MY" OWN IMAGE AS YOU SEEM TO DO OR TO ACTUALLY BE OBSESSED WITH DOING. (smile)
PS
jAMAL IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THIS COMMENT THAT i HAVE MADE COUNTLESS TIMES ON THE SITES OR IF YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO DISREGARD MY SAYING IT...THERE ARE 142 DIFFERENT BUDDHIST PRACTICES IN AMERICA ALONE...ANOTHER REASON I USE N.D. BUDDHIST AND NOT BUDDHIST...AGAIN FREEDOM OF CHOICE...BUT, I DO GO OUT OF MY WAY TO NOT ONLY STUDY A RELIGION BEFORE I CHOSE TO TALK ABOUT THEM, BUT I ALSO STUDY THE HISTORY AS TO WHY AND HOW THEY CAME INTO BEING OR THE REASON THEY CHOSE TO BREAK OFF INTO DIFFERENT NAMES/ LABELS UNDER SAID RELIGION'S BASE NAME OR ORIGINAL NAME. (SMILE)
tHE BASE OF THE noi IS NOT THE SAME BASE AS THOSE IN TEH MIDDLE-EAST AM I CORRECT, JAMAL??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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I agree with Clark, but as far as living in peace the way "I" take it Jamal is making the religion the main focus and not the individual person themsleves as "I" believe that this is how Clark and "I" are seeing this. example,
It seem that me the N.D. Buddhist can get along with the Muslims on the site better then the MUSLIMS can get along with each other. My focus in on the individuas and not one how they have chosen to be the best person they can be. I see each individual as the only expert on themselves and not me.(smile)
But, then life is a process of change and maybe one day a lot more of us will be able to not be blinded by those "mine is the right and yours is the wrong" as stated by brother Clark...and truely be able to have PEACE ON EARTH...but will we be willing to do this???? M-E, "I" ALREADY HAVE.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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As someone who likes to go by a lot of what I experience for my self...if "I" had been asked a question like this before becoming a member of this BIA site, my answer would have been YES...but heving seen the Muslim relationship between you and robert and solomon and Harry, right now my answer is NO! (smile)
I AM ONLY GOING BY THE HEADLIND COME ON LINE OF THIS POST IF SOMEONE DECIDES TO TRY AND CAHNG WHAT "i" JUST SAID INTO A PERSONAL ATTACK" i AM ONLY COMMENTING ON THE MESSAG E (received) AND NOT THE MESSANGER...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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