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Should we write to the administrators of BIA as to the slander that these two blogger have issued against the Black Muslims in America. In some countries, words used by these individuals would lead to serious problems. But, in America they are allow to sling their dirt against Islam. Now they cry like babies because I delete their insults and slander and personal attacks to steer one away from your blogs. Harry is a full time blogger...he has no time to do anything else but to blog and email you to cry about someone deleting his crap. When does he have time to do anything that he is about. Apparently, like Irma so beautifully said...Apparently I have the power to stop Harry...Where does that leave the importance of his God and mission...its obviously a bunch a crap. I am able to take him away from all of his work...Thanks Harry and Robert, for giving me more credit than I knew I had. As for me, I have work to do...My divine work keeps me busy and have no time for entertainment of silly comments to my blogs. If BIA would not give bloggers the right to delete comments made to them, then quite simply..I would not be on BIA. Because No one has the right to deliberately insult me personally....My life has been very blessed and the internet should not be a source of stress but to conduct business and that is just what I am doing.
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Friday, April 2nd 2010 at 9:03PM
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"No one has the right to deliberately insult me personally."
You are absolutely correct. Personal insults are out of bounds .
Friday, April 2nd 2010 at 10:19PM
Richard Kigel
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yes, Irma first Robert makes personal attacks against me. Then he directly insults Master Fard Muhammad, who millions in this country regards as Allah in Person. In Africa or in the middle East this is the equivalent of war but America is a democracy...and we allow this total disregard for a major faith in the world, when it is not necessary. I can speak to a Christian without attacking Christ as nothing. Why does the Nation of Islam have to take the attacks from someone the likes of Harry or Robert. There was just the Saviors Day 2010 held in Chicago at the Convention Center.......Let me say that they were packed wall to wall in there to see Minister Louis Farrakhan.......Whether you, me or anyone like him or not...He deserves our respect...that so many black Americans came out to hear what he had to say.....so why should people on BIA slander him......or the Nation of Islam ?
Saturday, April 3rd 2010 at 2:46AM
jamal Abraham
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And Mr. Jamal Abraham, a man who I call a CHILD OF GOD AND MY BROTHER IN THE HUMAN FAMILY...
How can honeslty say that: "No one has the right to deliberately insult me personally." when on another blog you insult ME personally?"
Doesn't your rule apply to ALL--or does it only apply to certain groups of people?
Saturday, April 3rd 2010 at 9:25AM
Richard Kigel
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When did I ever personally deliberately insult you ?
Saturday, April 3rd 2010 at 9:34AM
jamal Abraham
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Dear Jamal:
You ask: “When did I ever personally deliberately insult you?”
First, I would like to thank you for having the common decency to be concerned enough to ask.
Here are the ways you have personally insulted me.
1. On your blog titled: “WHITE PEOPLE A RACE OF DEVILS ACCORDING TO NOI: CAN THIS BE TRUE?” you explored that question in great detail.
In your explanation you told us that: “My neighbors growing up were white, my neighbors at present are white.... White people pay me well and treat me very well.”
That’s fine. No insult there.
There you say: “It’s an irony...though they are a race of devils.”
You have called me the most evil, insidious, blood libel in the history of name-calling. You have called me a DEVIL! You called me a DEVIL even though we have never met and we have not had any personal contact and I have done nothing to you that would give you any reason to believe that I have any part of a DEVILISH nature in me.
It is an unfair judgement. You have pre-judged me based on some criteria you hve set up that has nothing to do with me personally.
2. Then you doubled the insult by comparing me to a dumb creature capable of no intelligence, self awareness and no conscious thought. So now you think I am evil as a devil and as dumb as a horse.
3. Your third insult was to distort my words and my meaning to give people the impression that I said something I didn’t say. It is an insult because you have mischaracterized my contribution to this Intelligent and Respectful BIA community.
4. Your fourth insult was to have the audacity to complain about being on the receiving end of a series of insults (NOT BY ME!!!). You correctly stated that:
"No one has the right to deliberately insult me personally." Or anyone.
It is a gross insult to me that you did not include your own insults in your sweeping righteous prohibition of insults. So nobody is allowed to insult you but you can insult the white folks?
So there you have it.
You have insulted me seriously. In violation of your own professed value that people should not insult each other!
So be true to your values!!!
Unless…unless…you really do believe that is ok to insult white people.
If you believe that—it would be the greatest insult of all.
Saturday, April 3rd 2010 at 11:20AM
Richard Kigel
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Hello to All
As a common decent person with an IQ of 68, I would love to respond especially since my name has been mentioned.
However, the blogger have not the intelligence to discern insults from straightforwardness. Jamal has a psychological problem coupled with low self-esteem that when someone presents better wisdom than he did he feels that he has been personally attacked an insulted, when that is not the case at all.
All arguments should be viewed as how a court of law views innocence and guilt. But, in this situation innocence and guilt is substituted for wisdom versus deleting someone’s comment.
In the scale of justice, each party is to put in each cup his argument and naturally, the argument that has the best wisdom will out weigh the lesser wisdom, am I right. But, if the blogger has the option to delete his opponent’s argument and make, the excuse that he was insulted which may not be true then how is that justice? How is that right? It is not right even to the other responders on the blog who may be interested in reading what was deleted. The entire dialogue begins to look as a slice of Swiss cheese all because the blogger’s feelings are hurt.
No intelligent person wants to deal with this type of foolishness from the blogger or Jamal, am I right. If you are an intelligent, then defend your self or ignore the comment.
For instance, the point Richard is making as a White man being insulted by Jamal that Richard is a Devil is clear. Now, is Jamal to default and delete Richard’s post? Or, should Jamal intelligently respond with an apology since there is no feasible explanation for his insult to Richard. Jamal tries to avoid giving an apology by saying that the so-called Mr. Master Fard Muhammad said that White people are devils. However, he [Jamal] defends his master’s claim. So, Jamal is just as guilty and insulting as his master was since Mr. Fard Muhammad has passed away, am I right.
The truth of the matter is that Jamal is a very confused individual and his education asked to his dilemma. In other words, his neck cannot balance his head.
I could say and substantiate more, but more than likely my comment will be deleted. So, let me get off this blog.
Saturday, April 3rd 2010 at 1:25PM
Harry Watley
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Well,
1. little guy; all my comments on BIA can be researched.
2. i do think you have an issue with observing, comprehending Truth and AlIslaam
3. i am, like 2 Billion Muslims worldwide, a Believer in AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed---AsShadullaahillah Illallahu wa AsShaduannaMohamed Rasul Allaah.
4.Fard Muhammad is someone I knew and prayed to Allaah with, I was present at the marriage of 1 of his sons. one of his grandsons is presently in America and is looking to get married and he and I will testify that NO one in his Family ever made a statement that he was divine. 100s of members of the Family of Elijah Muhammad in 2010 do not think of him as divine and He, before His death asked the forgiveness of Allaah if his pressence led DISBELIEVERS to Hell.
5. I loved Our Father Elijah Muhammad and LOVE his family---we have made Haj or Umra many times.
6. little is just mad at the Truth, I give him AlIslaam and AlQur'aan and He is just angry that he is not able to understand.
7. I did call a Deleter, anal excrement.
8. I did call little abraham a sickPuppy for called a Dead Man a Hypocrite.
9. little, siebra, s.muhammad; farrakhanMadoffs Saviours day was Attended by HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THE 100s of Biological FAMILY OF ELIJAH MUHAMMAD???????????????????????
Saturday, April 3rd 2010 at 7:24PM
robert powell
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Fascinating conversation!!!
And Jamal, I am still waiting for you to answer the question I put to you on your WHITE PEOPLE A RACE OF DEVILS blog.
Are you judging me by the color of my skin OR by the content of my character?
Saturday, April 3rd 2010 at 9:03PM
Richard Kigel
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Richard...Just as I thought...have never personally insulted you deliberately...what you recited is my reference to all white people as a race of devils. That is not personally speaking to you.
As far as Irma....I'm ignorant of the differance between Buddhist and ND Buddhist...so there is nothing done intentionally....Clark...thats up to you ..but that does not apply to me.....If "I" choose to delete...it is purely "my" choice. Which I will continue if a person deliberately attacks and continuously....But, no one wants to be a "whinnor" ...weeping at every little thing. '
Sure, many times have had to retaliate and will throw some insults...but, we are talking about a constant point of personal attacks.
Saturday, April 3rd 2010 at 10:46PM
jamal Abraham
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Dear Jamal:
So now you have left me completely confused about what you think you meant by what you attempted to say. Since you referred to ALL white people, this does include me. Unless you are granting me some sort of exemption from your blanket accusation...
So please let me try to understand you. Please will you answer one more question.
Am I a DEVIL?
Saturday, April 3rd 2010 at 10:55PM
Richard Kigel
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As salaam alaikum
The Holy Quran teaches us that that no one can alter what Allah has created.
I find that to be interesting. Europeans, who were at one time Original people,
were grafted using science.
One might conclude then, that which Allah created was altered. But this is not
the case.
All that took place was the removal of melanin, from a specific group of Original people, the soul however remains as Allah created it. Having a will. Freedom to
choose.
Therefor Allah's creation was not altered.
With that said....
We NOW have races of people. People became races due to the
acts of White people.
White people were considered Original people, however, their choice to
commit evil, spread slander, murder and catagorize humans that Allah created
equal and are known as Original, into Black, Red, Brown, Yellow and White is a
wicked act that teaches members of this planet that anything darker than White
is sinful.
That in and of itself is evil.
Put a " D " in front of evil you get DEVIL.
Are white people a race of devils?
Absolutly Not!
Why, anyone can be a devil. Anyone can sat that they are superior because
of the color of their skin.
so white people are not a race of devils.
White people are SATAN!
for they are the makers of devil.
thank you for your attention.
Saturday, April 3rd 2010 at 11:35PM
Dion X
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Richard....please look up the word personally in the dictionary....then go from there
You had claimed that I personally insulted you and that was my concern because I said to myself...why would I do that...when you never personally attacked me. And I was right...I never personally attacked you.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 12:18AM
jamal Abraham
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Dion, Wa Alaikum Salaam
I like what you speak of the "d " in from of evil....making devil. Only thing, I would point out is that when I speak of "original"....from a science point of view it is from origin or the first and in this case the first man....now by all archeological finding account...the oldest known fossils are from a skeleton of a black anatomy. So science supports that the original man had to be a black man. this blog treats specifically how the races came about using genetic engineering control procedures. It is the point of scientist to ask "why" and "how" to reality then we study and research for answers....The races cannot occur by accident but must have been a calculated process since the races remain this day.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 12:24AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Mr. Dion X,
Firstly, you need to get out of the Holy Quran as the Black Christians need to get out of the Holy Bible and this is why.
The Holy Quran is the testimony of the Arabian people how God helped them to overcome their paganism to be converted to Islam by Prophet Mohammed, am I right.
In other words, God always matches the race of the prophet to the race of his people. For instance, out of common sense you would not expect God to send a Chinese prophet to Japanese people, right. So, Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and his people were Arabians. Likewise, Jesus was Jewish and his people were the house of Israel. Consequentially, your prophet must be a Black American as you are, am I right.
Now, let me in part this wisdom to you. God only created dark skinned people. Scientifically speaking, this we know since dark skinned people has dominant genes. However, for hundreds of thousands of years dark skinned people did nothing to improve the quality of their lives as well as the conservation of the earth. As a result, evolution kicked in to make the change. That change brought about the different races that we see today and the last were Caucasian people. Caucasian people did what all the other races failed to do, which is to improve the quality of living as well as the conservation of the earth.
For instance, for thousands of years the Native American Indians lived as the Africans did. The living was a bit higher than animals but much lower for a human being. I believe that if European people did not come to North America, perhaps Native American Indians would still be living in teepees and wigwams without indoor plumbing, am I right.
However, when it comes to Black Americans as opposed to Africans or dark skinned people the dynamics changes and this is why.
Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. In other words, Black Americans are a made people since White people bred themselves to the African slaves they purchased from the slave traders and so, Black Americans were born into slavery.
Nevertheless, Black Americans are neither Africans nor Caucasians. Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery.
Consequentially, only God could free us and make us a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Therefore, anything that we get must be from God and we will know it because it will have nothing to do with other people.
For instance, we know that Islam belongs to the Arabian people since Prophet Mohammed brought Islam to the Arabian people and not to Black Americans. Do you see my point?
We know that a foreigner [Mr. Master Fard Muhammad] taught Mr. Elijah Muhammad, am I right.
For example, if a Chinese man by the name of Mr. Master Ping-Pong born in the holy city of Beijing, China as Mr. Fard Muhammad was born in the holy city of Mecca, Arabia was first to Mr. Elijah Muhammad with the same teachings it would not have made any difference since both men are foreigners to Black Americans. Does that make sense to you, Mr. Dion X? In other words, Mr. Fard Muhammad was not one of our kinds, right.
So, the NOI must come out of Islam since Black Americans have a genuine prophet of God, as Prophet Mohammed was a genuine prophet of God to the Arabian people. Therefore, what you and Jamal learned in the NOI is obsolete and entirely wrong.
I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become a real people in this world. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. Everything that I say is going to happen. That is what a genuine prophet is all about, right.
I will e-mail this to you since Jamal may delete it, okay.
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 6:47AM
Harry Watley
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Bro. Dion...
Once I just moved into a used home in Cincinnati...That same night, I heard noises in the kitchen....discovered it to be a rat. What I did was I got rid of the rat that very night...From then on, slept very well in my home....The point....watch out for Harry.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 11:42AM
jamal Abraham
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As salaam alaikum
Mr. Harry
Please think about all that you have written.
" Now, let me in part this wisdom to you. God only created dark skinned people. Scientifically speaking, this we know since dark skinned people has dominant genes. However, for hundreds of thousands of years dark skinned people did nothing to improve the quality of their lives as well as the conservation of the earth. As a result, evolution kicked in to make the change. That change brought about the different races that we see today and the last were Caucasian people. Caucasian people did what all the other races failed to do, which is to improve the quality of living as well as the conservation of the earth."
And the rest.
Since you and I can agree that all races have evolved from the ' Dark skinned people ' then you must understand that those dark skinned people INVENTED science. And since you agree that the 'Dark skinned' people are the elders of the earth, the parents of civilization,
then you aught to understand then that this planet has not ever been subjected to pollution, ozone depletion and disease as it is today.
This is not because of out Native American brothers and sisters or any of the 'dark skinned' people. This is due to white people and those who follow them.
Now about the Bible and Holy Quran.
It was a Black person who revealed those books to Moses, Jesus, and Prophet Muhammad.
We have been civilizing the lighter races for thousands of years and we continue to do so
with the Teachings of given to the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 12:22PM
Dion X
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Hello Jamal,
Jamal, God hand is on me as much as God hand was on Prophet Mohammed and Moses.
Black Americans are a floating people in humanity as the Children of Israel were in Egypt 4000 years ago in a sense of speaking. As God rose up Moses from among his own kinds anchor his people in their Promised Land so God raised me up to anchor Black Americans in our Promised Land, which is the portion of this continent that we are going to inherit to become our country.
A situation is going to come about that is going to bring us together under the umbrella of sovereignty and by then all of you will have no doubt that I am Black Americans first genuine prophet. Am I making any sense with you, Jamal?
Do you understand me, Jamal?
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 12:25PM
Harry Watley
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Sure, Harry...understand your claim is unbased and unfactual. America like Babylon has had plenty of time to change her ways. Now men marrying men and kissing other men on TV, closing of public schools, naional debt mounting, crime out of control, higher unemployment....handwriting speaks to America's demise...in other words a sinking ship....Why should Black Americans go down with a sinking ship that is now ours. You speak of sovereignty around what....A bunch of disunited black people of all religions cackling like hens...then white people continues oppression and keeps blacks disunited with Hollywood and mass media....There could never be sovereignty in America.....Blacks would never come together but away from the fox....away from the snake.....away from the beast.....then blacks could united around "land".....It is one thing that All Black Americans could come together around and embrace each other over some LAND....And America would not give the once black slave jack "****" or he would have already done it with the claim of reparations.....It is not going to happen.....So this should not stop the show and that is what little Abraham is all about.
Again, Robert if you call me out of my name,,,,,your blogs will be deleted
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 1:02PM
jamal Abraham
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richard, little and dion are 'white'-----In my opinion-----they think, read, comprehend and communicate in European English language.........
all of your Thoughts have the ORIGIN in paganChristian Belief.
AlIslaam is the Evolution of the Thought of the Creator given to Adaam at the Creation of Man. Adaam in Arabic means mankind..........
noi was an american phenomena from 1930-1975---when Our Father Elijah Muhammad died, it died.
2010......age of Change.....age of Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama
clark, harry and all are Scholastic enough, worldNews knowledgeable to understand fully; that little, siebra, XXX, are NO MORE Muslim than KKK are Christian.
BIA preamble asks that we smash, shatter stereotypes of BIA that have permeated American culture and Change to Modern, Truthful, Intellligent Thinkers.
I insult no one, miisrael posted a great blog on writing on Internet and how one is perceived----
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 3:27PM
robert powell
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From the look at Saviors Day 2010 and the way some 20 to 30 thousand pack into a center in Chicago....evidence is that nation of Islam is alive and generating.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 10:37PM
jamal Abraham
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Dear Jamal:
I did just as you suggested and looked up the word “personally” in my Dictionary. I found that it refers to the personal presence or action of a specific individual.
I am deeply relieved that you understand that I never personally attacked you. Apparently, you feel that because your comments do not pertain to me personally then it is not a personal insult.
It is amazing to see the tremendous agility of your verbal gymnastics as you take a flying leap into your argument and land with a thud because you missed the mark.
Your statement: “WHITE PEOPLE A RACE OF DEVILS” is so large, broad and all inclusive that it is aimed at every individual white person. If you were born into the “white race” there is no escape according to your formula.
So you are right—you did not insult me personally. And you are man enough to admit that I have never done or said anything to you to harm you in any way.
But by including me in your assessment of who is a devil, I FEEL hurt and insulted. Your declaration refers to me and everyone in my family except my daughter in law and now I don’t really know where my two beautiful grandbabies come out in your cosmic scheme of things because they are exactly half black and half white.
So, yes, you have insulted us all because we are all included in your blood libel.
The Devil is pure evil. The Devil embodies all that is terrible in the universe. I have done my own personal battles with the Devil and I know there is nothing good in it.
It is the most insidious name one person can give to another.
But you have taken great pains to wiggle out of this so you can avoid answering my question. How about having the courage of your convictions. How about standing behind your words.
How about finally answering my question:
Am I a devil?
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 10:38PM
Richard Kigel
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Richard, you do not understand
It it was not for your people, we black people would not have learned how to value time more better. Almighty God Allah taught me that He wanted to teach the Black original man how to become more conscious of time. So by making white people and giving the a limit of time....it translated into a people that does things fast. I personally have studied white people....they take their coffee breaks but when it is time to work...white people work. This is something my people needed to learn. This is the one positive thing that comes out of the American Experience. White people have taught black people how to work more "efficiently". And it is the increase in efficiency that translates to more productivity. So while you speak of the bad of white people...the good is that you demonstrated to Black Americans how to not just build but how to build quickly....not just how to construct ...but how to construct more efficiently.,.......not just how to engineer......but how to engineer from design to manufacture more expedient.
Sunday, April 4th 2010 at 11:52PM
jamal Abraham
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All,
To those that defame the Nation of Islam in the West......should receive the curse of Allah......the Great One God.
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 12:18AM
jamal Abraham
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I credit you with being a deceiver of AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as)
again, dear noble seer, How many of the 100s of Blood Family Members of Our Father Elijah Muhammad did you see in the crowd of '30K' and the 'Millions' of "So-called NOI"?
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 9:36AM
robert powell
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Hello Dion X,
I believe that you are missing the essence and spirit concerning the story I gave you when God created dark skinned people because you said this, “dark skinned people INVENTED science.”
I will repeat what I said about dark skinned people. I said that dark skinned people for hundreds of thousands of years did nothing to improve the quality of life as well as the conservation of the earth. Since this is the case how then could just say that dark skinned people invented science?
The object was that dark skinned people were supposedly to have the crown from God as being the good steward of the earth. But, since they could not improve the quality of their lives how then could be improved the conservation and of the earth? Dark skinned people failed and as a result, evolution kicked in that other races came forth to do what dark skinned people neglected to do. The last of these races [Caucasians] did what dark skinned people fail to do, am I right. Am I making any sense with you?
Lastly, you made this point, “this planet has not ever been subjected to pollution, ozone depletion and disease as it is today…..This is due to white people”
Dion, the price of progress comes at a cost. Presently, as more is learned steps are taken to correct these errors. Likewise, lives were lost exploring outer space. That is the cause White America pays to advance and the more they learn obviously the less lives will be lost.
On the other hand, if it were dark skinned people they would not have done anything and that is why God was very disappointed big-time with dark skinned people from the beginning.
For instance, when White people explored the continent of Africa dark skinned people were naked or almost naked and barefooted. When White people explored this continent, the native Indians were naked or almost naked. When White people explored the continent of Australia, the aborigines were naked or almost naked. Am I right to say these things?
However, Black Americans will be the first dark skinned people to re-calibrate and advance the compass needle of dark skinned people. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. All that I say is going to happen.
While the NOI and others are still looking for answers, God have inspired me with our only permanent solution. We are going to inherit a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. While White America will be hard-pressed, they will be glad of our sovereignty.
Tell me what you think.
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 11:04AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
The 20 to 30,000 that packed the center in Chicago only means that 30,000 Black Americans are extremely blind, deaf and dumb.
Why? Is because after 80 years of Black Americans giving billions of dollars to Mr. Elijah Muhammad and the NOI to procure what the Muslims say that they want and believe the NOI has nothing to show for it, am I right. One thing that is certain is that the elites are very rich off the blood money of our poor people.
Moses never charged the Children of Israel to Exodus Egypt, am I right.
Black Americans are neither sovereign people nor have complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders, am I right. So what has the NOI done to procure Black Americans sovereignty? Mr. Farrakhan neither promotes nor advocates Black America’s sovereignty or complete independence, am I right.
So, 30,000 only shows 30,000 extremely blind, deaf and dumb people being taken advantage of, am I right.
However, Robert wanted to know of this 30,000 how many were of Elijah Muhammad’s family? I would also like to know the answer as well.
Tell me what you think.
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 11:22AM
Harry Watley
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Dear Jamal:
Thank you for your response. As usual, it was thoughtful and composed with care.
HOWEVER--once again, you danced around my question and avoided answering it directly. You responded by expounding at length on a different issue and made some valid points--but again, you did some neat twisting and turning to wiggle away from the simple question I asked you.
Once again, you avoided my question like it was the plague. I think it is because you really don't have a satisfactory answer.
OK. I will take note of your inability to respond to uncomfortable questions and I won't bug you any more.
However, even though you have characterized me and every white person I know as a devil, (wrongly and unfairly) I will still call you a CHILD OF GOD, and my brother in the family of man.
I wish nothing but the best for you--ALL GOD'S BLESSINGS BE UPON YOU AND THOSE YOU LOVE!!!
BE IN PEACE
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 11:23AM
Richard Kigel
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FYI,
It is surprising to me that Richard does not understand Jamal personally called him a Devil since he is White that he would directly ask the question of Jamal is he a devil.
I believe that the dictionary has clouded his rationale. Let me explain.
Suppose there are 10 White people in the world and Jamal say that all White people are devils. Now, if you take one White away from the 10 would not Jamal be attacking an insulting that one lone White person? Of course, Jamal would be attacking an insulting that lone White person.
Let us go a little bit further. Suppose we label that one lone White person as A and put him back among the 10 White people. Then we take another White person and label that person as B. Would not jamal statement also be a personal attack on person B as well? Of course, it would be a personal attack on person B. So, let us repeat the same process for the other eight White people. Would you not say that Jamal has attacked the 10 White people personally? Of course, Jamal have attacked them personally.
What the problem is is that neither Richard nor Jamal can apply the dictionary’s definition to the intent of Jamal’s statement. It would seem that neither one of them has the Wisdom of Solomon as I do.
The rational thinking of Richard baffles me. Richard’s thinking is not algebraic or mathematical.
So, with a big, big yes, Jamal has called you a devil because you are White. I am answering what Jamal is not answering.
Okay.
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 11:50AM
Harry Watley
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Did you notice how quickly Richard checked a reference of definition....namely the dictionary.....There was no arguments because two(2) rationale persons can always find a reference of truth. So Richard checked the dictionary on personally...the case was concluded.....based on definition and definition alone.....
Now, poor ignorant Harry talks mumbo jumbo...about if this and if that...when it is very simple.....To personally attack and attack a group are differant simply by definition.
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 12:55PM
jamal Abraham
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Richard, you asked me a direct question which I do not have enough information to answer. For example, if the picture that is displayed is your picture....you look white and a member of the caucasian race. But, I'm not sure.....Then, I'm not sure whether your great grandmother was Black or a member of the black race.....things like that...So, I am no way able to pass judgement on you individually with what little information that I have.....But, if you are caucasian and your family tree 3 generations deep on both sides are caucasian than chances are you are caucasian and would be a member of the white race or caucasian and considered "devil".
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 1:02PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
What you are not using as I reference is the Wisdom of Solomon. Furthermore, I think I did well in explaining myself by the examples that I use.
I am a scientist and a judge as Solomon was. We resolve problems by applying the questions, if this or if that so that when I reach a conclusion, that conclusion is sound and cannot be overturned. Am I making any sense with you?
What say you?
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 1:03PM
Harry Watley
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Dear jamal:
Well, thank you! You had to go deep into my genetic background for that one.
Since my family on both sides came to the US from Russia at the beginning of the 20th century, that makes me an actual Caucasian, since my family actually did come from the Causassus area.
That would be unlike folks who orginated form Italy, Ireland, Europe or other geographic areas not associated with the Caucassus. They are by definition, not Caucasians. That is why it is such an inadequate term. Modern science long ago gave it up as archaic and meaningless.
It makes about as sense as talking about the Soviet Union or Rhodesia.
So now you have determined that I am a devil, according to your value system--even though you admit that I have done nothing to earn the title--except, of course, be born with a certain skin tone.
Here is my next question. Let's see if you are willing to answer this one directly without making any effort to avoid it or dance around it.
Since you have decided by your criteria that I am a devil:
Are you judging me by the color of my skin OR the content of my character?
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 1:24PM
Richard Kigel
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you entitle a Blog about Robert, but you do not address Robert.
you delete me again, what a twerp!
what are you too little?
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 7:22PM
robert powell
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Richard, skin color is one of many factors that define the white race.
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 7:23PM
jamal Abraham
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Dear Jamal:
Of course! Kind of obvious, isn't it!
But you left out the part about being a race of DEVILS.
And again, you failed to answer my question.
So I would love to know: Are you judging me by the color of my skin OR the content of my character?
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 7:51PM
Richard Kigel
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OK, Robert...what makes you so bent on denying black Americans. Don't hand me your pagan jargon...You can call us African American, Bilalians or whatever...but, why are you so bent on praising Arab but condemning black Americans. Why must Allah only choose non-black Americans for his prophets and messengers....Where is all this self hatred coming from....What makes hat a man(your father) so much when so many loved him....have you not ever read of famous white families like the Rockefellers....there sons did not condemn their father. What is your problem ?
Monday, April 5th 2010 at 8:10PM
jamal Abraham
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NEVER TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT ANYTHING....FROM BILL ROCKEFELLER IN 1849 TO THE BIRTH OF jOHN D. ROCKEFELLER IN 1874 THEY GREW THEIR FAMILY. When they moved to New York in 1883....the family moved....The family stayed in the oil refining business....Sure, they had their problems....But, no rockefellar tried to destroy their father.
Tuesday, April 6th 2010 at 9:30AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Robert,
Any replies that I would make to this blog of Jamal’s would be on Gregg’s blog, “Dying to When God’s Love? Prove your faith like Abraham did.” Therefore, frequent Greg’s blog often.
Robert let me take a moment to correct some of the things you said on this blog. I will also e-mail you this comment as a precaution to Jamal’s stupidity when it comes to deleting comments.
I believe that what is wrong with you, Robert is that you refuse to recognize the different races of people, which makes up humanity. Any person that chooses to be racially blind is an idiot, since race does exist. The functioning, personality, behavior and attitude between the different races are what make this world go around.
All the different races should be jockeying for God crown of who is best qualified to be the, “Good Steward” of the earth. Presently, Caucasian people have that crown. So, race differences are very important in humanity.
Lastly, you said this, “Americans of slaveOrigin from Africa had a choice in 1865 to be African, Muslim, Indian or paganChristians---- “
This statement is inaccurate and here is why. Black Americans who are a new breed or a race of people who are also descendents of slaves had not a choice after the Civil War in 1865 to be Africans, Muslims, Indians or pagan Christians. The kind of slaves Black Americans were then and are today is not mentally capable of making a choice of any kind since our kind of slavery left us ignorant people.
Black Americans need the help of God as the Children of Israel needed the help of God after their ordeal in Egypt after 400 years of bondage and slave. It took 40 years, Moses and God to get these Hebrew people straight while they were in the desert because they were mentally ignorant and stupid as Black Americans are today.
Jamal Abraham’s behavior is a perfect example of what I am talking about, am I right. He is a descendent of slaves and he is ignorant. Elijah and the NOI have not done anything good for him. Jamal and Siebra are my reasons why I say the negative things about Elijah and the NOI. Elijah, the NOI and Mr. Farrakhan are a useless organization for Black Americans.
As I said, will post this comment on Greg’s post as well as e-mail it to you, okay.
Tell me what you think.
Wednesday, April 7th 2010 at 5:05AM
Harry Watley
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Irma, countless times said have mentioned that Black Americans may have mixed religions as part of their homeland in Africa.
Wednesday, April 7th 2010 at 7:13AM
jamal Abraham
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Monday, April 5th 2010 at 6:22PM
you entitle a Blog about Robert, but you do not address Robert.
you delete me again, what a twerp!
what are you too little?
Tuesday, April 6th 2010 at 6:22PM
I have offered to take you and siebra to a number of Muslim Nations at My Expense; and Hajj in The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia!
but little has not replied, cause little must be the little red chicken
Wednesday, April 7th 2010 at 7:39AM
robert powell
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Robert....I heard you about your proposal and thinking about it....that is the problem with many black Americans they react with thought....I am thinking ..it is a very generous proposition and my feel is that you are serious...Thats why am taking my time and considering.
Wednesday, April 7th 2010 at 11:05AM
jamal Abraham
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The earliest that I would be able to spend a week or 2 in the Middle East would be in year 2012. It is so far away that will have to refrain. When closer to year 2012 and things are close to as predicted will see whether your offer still stands...Then we can revisit with this matter.
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 12:58PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal,
I lost the train of thought between you and Robert at the point deleted. It was unexpected since the blog is about Robert.
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 1:25PM
Steve Williams
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Steve,
For some strange and dumb reason, harry will address a comment to someone other than me but slander me by name on it....Not going to happen on my blog. Perfectly fine to address anybody....but then talk to them. leave me out of it. If will put me in it...then should address me appropriately.
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 4:53PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
Show me that I am wrong about anything I say about you! Do not delete what I say, rather show the audience that I am wrong about you.
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 6:02PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Steve,
Steve, you have made an excellent point. That stupid Jamal is something else.
Yes, the blog is about Robert and the knucklehead [Jamal] initiated the blog yet he deleted Roberts comment. So, how could anyone follow the train of thought when that idiot [Jamal] deletes our comments?
This same knucklehead says that he is the father of a new nation [Black Americans] to be taking to five African countries and at the same time, he cannot deal with Robert’s wisdom.
Sure, this blog resembles a slice of Swiss cheese.
I applaud you Steve.
I will post this comment on the blog entitled, attention since the knucklehead [Jamal] will delete it.
Incidentally, Steve I have come to understand that many BIA members follows these dialogues even though they do not comment on the blog themselves. These people are quite taking back by Jamal’s stupidity and his inability to respond intelligently to challenges.
Jamal is a liar when he said that he deletes comments that personally insult him. Jamal deletes any comment that makes him look as a fool.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 6:03PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, I see you had to make this comment twice. Nothing is in order therefore cannot make scientific sense. Jamal I doubt your Science.
Saturday, April 10th 2010 at 10:17PM
Steve Williams
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Harry, you have a nasty mouth....should use mouthwash and rinse.....than use more mouthwash and rinse....then use more mouthwash and rinse.....then get a tongue scrapper and scrape your tongue......then use more mouthwash and rinse...then scrape your tongue again.....then use more mouthwash and rinse....then put your hand in front of your mouth and say "ah"....if it no longer smells like the toilet bowl, then proceed.
Sunday, April 11th 2010 at 9:09AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
Jamal I do not believe that I have a nasty mouth. What I see is that the glare from my wisdom and insight blinds you, which causes you to put on a welder’s helmet by deleting my glaring wisdom and insight. Do you understand what I am saying?
I know that I am right since I do not delete anything that you say since you have no wisdom and insight that would illuminate a glare.
Anyway, I am not interest in discussing the personality differences we have. I am interested in you showing me rationally, analytically and scientifically that the things I say are wrong as I rationally, analytically and scientifically show you that the things you say are senseless.
Therefore, let me switch gears and shine a glaring light in your eyes. You said that Prophet Mohammed was a universal prophet. That is not true and rationally, analytically and scientifically I will show you why.
Every man born into this world is born into a race. For instance, the man is Chinese, Japanese, Nigeria or Arabian as Prophet Mohammed was Arabian, am I right. Consequentially, every man born into this world is bound within the perimeters of his race.
There is no such thing as a universal man therefore, there is no such thing as a universal prophet. Each prophet is bound within the perimeters of his race. Consequentially, the message given to any prophet by God is strictly for his people and his people only. That is common sense and should not be difficult for any prudent man to understand.
One of my most important task as Black America’s first genuine prophet is to get Black Americans to think rationally and intelligently. Have you noticed that no one has been able to trump anything that I say, right? That is because I think rationally and intelligently. God guides me and I must be wiser than all Black Americans are and our adversaries in order to successfully make it into our sovereign country on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own to begin a life of our own as a people. Am I making any sense with you?
Likewise, the message that I have that God has endowed me with is strictly for Black Americans only. Am I making any sense with you?
Tell me what you think.
Sunday, April 11th 2010 at 9:47AM
Harry Watley
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Harry, you are using my words in the wrong context. What I said is that Islam is an universal religion. It is practiced my other muslims of differant culures all over the world. Meaning across the planet earth.
That translates to a muslim in Australia or a muslim in Russia or a muslim from China or a muslim from America all believe in the same religion. Non-Muslims have no idea what this means....they can only talk from the outside like yourself. You are a non-muslim and a non-believer and that is obvious. But, lets get back to the point. In Islam God only sends a prophet or a warner is if their is a emanate danger of a nation to their ways. So God sent Moses only because of an impending danger facing Egypt and Pharaoh. God did not send Moses just to preach to the Hebrews with no other point. God sent Lot because of the impending doom facing Sodom and Gomarroh. God sent prophet Mohammad of Arabia because of the impending danger facing Mecca and the holy lands. Thanks to Prophet Mohammad Gods children strengthened their stand on Mecca, the Middle East and half of AFrica. Then God sent Messenger Elijah Muhammad to warn of an impending destruction facing America. And that is what Messenger Elijah Muhammad done for 45 years.
So we have no need for you Harry. You, are about 80 years too late and present no point for honest consideration. Black Americans have no positive use for you, Harry.
Sunday, April 11th 2010 at 10:18AM
jamal Abraham
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of course, in fact I can open an escrow account now and the escrow will inform me when you pick up your tickets and money and I will meet you in Jeddah.
but you do understand little, that I have told you I will bring along your quotes, like the last, "Then God sent Messenger Elijah Muhammad to warn of an impending destruction facing America. And that is what Messenger Elijah Muhammad done for 45 years."
but in the meantime I can help you with understanding AlQur'aan.
Sunday, April 11th 2010 at 12:19PM
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WOW!!! As a new comer to this site; I expected informative and cordial dialect regarding growth, leadership, self awareness, educatio, ideas for our youth, and other issues of great importance regarding Black Americans/ African Americans. Needless to say, I have found much of this to be a bit discouraging.
I know everyone has opinions, and that as a people we should be able to agree to disagree. Bashing and insulting is not going to get a productive entertaining, knowledge based dialog going. I'm reading personalities, egos, personal attacts, defensive responsives... And yes, debatical arguements.
I thought Black In Aamerica was geared towards building up, providing information, strengthing awareness of political, social, environmental issues which may have some profound affect on Americanas as a whole, especially black/african americans.
If im wrong, then I am definitely on the wrong site....
Sunday, April 11th 2010 at 3:49PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Hello Jamal,
Let us focus on what you said for a moment. You said that Prophet Mohammed was a universal prophet. Am I correct? I would also encourage Robert to join in with you since he too believes that Prophet Mohammed was a universal prophet.
Anyway, am I correct that you believe Prophet Mohammed was a universal prophet?
I would love to straighten the issue of Prophet Mohammed being a universal Prophet out immediately, okay.
I do not believe that Prophet Mohammed was a universal prophet. So, this would be a good intelligent dialogue between us. You and Robert are on one side of the table while I am on the opposite side.
Do you care to present your argument first or would you prefer that I present mines first?
What say you?
Sunday, April 11th 2010 at 4:36PM
Harry Watley
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Cynthia,
Here is a blog by Clark, which should easily be getting the number of hits this one is, certainly more in fact. An issue of crucial importance, concerning the very means by which we are holding these conversations.
http://blackinamerica.com/cgi-bin/blog.cgi...
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 9:28AM
Steve Williams
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Hello Steve,
Why do you suppose that this blog have begotten more hits than Clark’s blog about the politics and the Internet?
Tell me what you think.
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 4:02PM
Harry Watley
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Any blog put out by Abraham is important and I do not waste my time. Blogs cover an array of topics. There is no way a person new to this site can pick all the venu's possible; from business topics, social science issues, political matters, racial discussions to black nationalism. But, my blogs are divinely inspired and guided by Allah the One God.....they all help in bringing out points relevant to Black Americans and our transitioning to the continent of Africa. In addition, you deal with a practicing engineer with an income from a multi-billion dollar employer. So, when contention is developed the weight of applied engineering science, the Bible, the Quran, and the Torah is used in my defense.
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 4:30PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal... are you questioning my intelligence? I am very much aware of social issues, political issues, economical issues, environmental issues.... and yes... even religious issues.... Don't underestimate my abilities.... nor my knowledge.
With that, I hope this is not a personal attack on my abilities to to pick up issues which are very much relevant to all of us...
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 8:45PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Clark... I agree with you.... and I would very much like to move on to topics which are more enlightening... So with that.... I would like Jamal... to refer me to some of his blogs in which I may be able to grasp some knowledge bases on what's going on... I am curious about Lil Abraham and his opinions.
I by no means am fragile or weak... I can hang with the best of you all.... Also, I am not so puffed up that I cannot ask for an explanation for things I don't understand.
However, I am learning with Jamal I am going to have to get tough!!! Thank you Jamal..
Steve has recommended one of your sites for me to check out.... and I am going to do just that.... I'll stick to the issues and I will be very tactful with my opinions....
All of you are just great... and thank you so much for taking time out to help soothe me thru this transition.
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 8:57PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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cynthia,
little entitled this blog to me, in particular, harry in general.
if you are a happy camper then maybe the guys on this venue are not your cup of tea. but BIA is producing Spectacular, Informative, Artist and Heart Felt dialogue in the Majority of the Blogs.
so it is for All Americans under the Leadership of President Baraka Hussein Obama.
welcome, dear lady
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 8:57PM
robert powell
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Steve... Im going to check out this blog now.... Thanks... (I Hope).. .:-)
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 8:58PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Cynthia......you come on "my blog" and say " As a new comer to this site; I expected informative and cordial dialect regarding growth, leadership, self awareness, educatio, ideas for our youth, and other issues of great importance regarding Black Americans/ African Americans. Needless to say, I have found much of this to be a bit discouraging. "
I did not take that personal....but I explain to you that all of my blogs are important and you say I am getting personal......Please
This blog has over 340 hits and counting....If a personal gets no information from this blog, then why are they here. (dah)
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 9:12PM
jamal Abraham
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Clark, As a result of this blog.....personal insults against me has leveled off somewhat.....so yes, maybe a trainwreck....but well worth it.
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 9:15PM
jamal Abraham
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Jamal I am so sorry, I never meant to be offensive.... BUT since you have an issue.. Let me be straight forward I came to "your blog" since you take ownership, to gather information and then "You BEING THE AUTHOR OF "YOUR" BLOG" lost your control and you began to entertain in non progressive dialect.... YOU LOST THE PURPOSE OF YOUR BLOG.... Your blog has hits because it became a "side show" (DAH!!!! DDAH!!!)
It becomes personal... when you start name calling.... But Jamal... I am not going to allow you to take me out of my element... I am above this... If you want to insult people, attack people.... Then you go right ahead... I am about harmony, and respect.... So, I will say this to you..... Do not comment about me... and there will be no need for me to "come onto your blog"
You say you are God's Engineer???? PLEASE!!!
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 9:38PM
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Brothers lets have a cease fire. I hate to see this going on.
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 9:52PM
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Thank you Robert.... I better get of of this "Blog Site" The Author of this one doesn't want my presence here.... So, Im certain we will be able to discuss other issues.... Oh, Trust me, I can handle any man and his opinions. But I'm going to be a LADY!!! for now.... Enjoy your evening...
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 9:59PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Again, This blog has served its purpose.....AND THAT IS ALL THAT COUNTS IN LIFE
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 10:18PM
jamal Abraham
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Cynthia....Little Abraham never looses control......My last 3 jobs were titled "electrical controls engineer". Our job is to provide design and process automation to design strategies be it in Manufacturing, process refining, energy or assembly plants. Then implement control electronics in hardware and software to maintain proper operation of equipment within the boundaries of a specification.
This blog is to point out that if those wish to challenge wit, knowledge, wisdom with little Abraham, then come on....but keep it on the blog......keep it on the subject....if you get personal....and deliberately insult Little Abraham ..I WILL DELETE THAT PERSON....WHOEVER....AND THAT IS WHAT THIS BLOG ABOUT. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT...WHETHER HARRY, ROBERT....OR WHOEVER.....MY FIRST NAME IS JAMAL.....MY LAST NAME IS ABRAHAM......AND I LOVE MY NAME......IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.....THEN DON'T ADDRESS ME AT ALL.....OR LITTLE ABRAHAM TO KEEP ME HUMBLE SINCE GOD MADE ME THE FATHER OF A NEW WORLD
There is a very good dialogue that went on between one blogger Richard....he is a white person. Him And I were back and forth commenting to each other....never insulting the other.....challenging each other viewpoints......but sticking on the issue. Then, he thought that one day, I , little Abraham may have insulted him. So I challenged him that no......It turns out I was right. My point is that they prepared me to be a statesman. You are welcome to challenge me on anything.....on any blog....but if I give a reason.....then check out the reason....OR you are discounting reason.
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 11:05PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello to All,
I suggest that we get back on track, okay. This blog is entitled, what should we do concerning the defamers of the Nation of Islam, am I right.
Circling around the theme of this blog is this so-called engineer [little Abraham] who has linked himself to the Jewish people’ as patriarch Abraham who was the husband of Sarah and the father of Isaac. Jamal believe that somehow he is part of the Jewish people’s prophecy even though he is a Black American and a descendent of slaves here in America. Jamal is a little nutty, yet holds an engineering degree from Michigan State University.
Already you could see Jamal has psychological issues since he believed he is a descendent [seed] of Abraham who by race Jewish and Jamal is clearly a Black American. Two different races yet Jamal believe he is a descendent of Sarah’s husband because Jamal’s surname is Abraham. Now, if that is not irrational and illogical then I do not know what is. Jamal is a little on the nutty side.
Therefore, I would give credence to want Cynthia said when she said Jamal’s blogs are interesting yet a sideshow. Am I making any sense?
I know that I am right in my assessment since Jamal deletes many of the things I have said that overshadows what little wisdom and understanding that Jamal has. Am I making any sense? When Jamal defaults to deleting my responses it clearly shows his inferiority and at the same time my superior wisdom. I had explained that since I am Black America’s first genuine prophet God has made me to be wiser than all Black Americans and White Americans are. Remember that I am anointed to lead Black Americans into sovereignty or complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Naturally, I would have to be made wiser than my own people and my adversaries. No one has trumped my wisdom. Does that make sense to you all? So, being wiser then Jamal is not a negative but a plus for Jamal and all Black Americans.
We all know that Moses was made to be wiser than all Hebrews as well as Pharaoh and the Egyptians were in order to lead the Children of Israel out of Egypt [The Exodus], am I right. So, it would not make any sense that there would be a Hebrew wiser than Moses would while Moses was a God chosen leader for the Children of Israel, right.
So, with that said, why should you leave the blog, Cynthia? You are not taking Jamal’s attack personal, are you?
You need to stay and voice your opinion as the dialogue continues, okay.
Incidentally, when Jamal feels that he is insulted that is a subjective opinion. But anyway, since this blog has my name [Harry] he has to be a fool to delete anything that I say and at the same time accuse me of being insulting or attacking him. Am I making any sense?
Now, I have a 68 IQ. An IQ of 68 is just barely pass the threshold of retardation, yet this fool [Jamal] find it necessary to delete my comments and use the excuse that I had insulted him. What he needs to do is defend himself of the idiotic notion that he is a descendent of Abraham going through the lineage of Ishmael when it is clear that Jamal is a Black American and a descendents of slaves. In addition, he needs to defend himself as to why he is sucking up to the Arabian people by patronizing their religion of Islam and practice their customs, ways and rituals when he is not racially Arabian.
What I have just said is what Jamal and Robert needs to straighten out since both of these knuckleheads are wannabe Arabians.
I will post this comment on my blog entitled, “Attention” in case Jamal delete this comment.
Anyone could tell me what he or she think.
Monday, April 12th 2010 at 11:33PM
Harry Watley
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Harry,
He has a high school diploma and is upset that my choice was to go on learning. His profile has him working 40 years in trades. But no degree. He says that he is a prophet...but no book....he has no people.....he has no professed religion....but he is upset that there are educated black men. Then he wants to challenge the validity of the Bible. So lets talk about it.
Abraham of old was married to Sarah and had a maid named Hagar. Abraham wanted a son and Sarah was unable so she asked Hagar to carry her husbands child. Hagar agreed and Hagar bore Abraham of old his first son. This was a new life and he was named Ishmael. When Sarah was able to carry Abraham's child, she bore him his "second" son named Isaac. Friction between the boys and Sarah created a situation for Abraham of old to decree Hagar to leave with his first son, Ishmael. They journeyed to Africa. Ishmael bore children incuding the sons; Nebaioth; Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, Mishma, Dumah, Massa, Hadad, Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedamah. They migrated from Egypt both west and south. Their geneology got caught up in the American Slave trade. One of the direct descendents of Ishmael survived slavery and escaped via the underground railroad from north to Canada where he was made free. By revelation while visiting Egypt, the one God Allah advised my lineage to Abraham of old. Further that to fulfill a promise that deliverance must be made of 144,000 choice Black Americans from America to 5 distinct countries in Africa.
Harry has an idea he is a prophet. My point is that all the prophets that were suppose to come has come. So Harry says throw away your bible. Then we go to the Holy Quran....all the prophets that were suppose to appear has appeared.....Harry wants us to throw away our Qurans....even so the Torah....Harry says no use......But he has no book......no structure....just a shaky mouth.....In life there are those like Harry......he has been scorned by dozens of bloggers already......my point is that he helps me to convey my message to "you" the reader as long as he does not get personal.....But because he is so uneducated....it sometimes is hard for him to realize that he is acting like an idiot....and that is when I just have to delete him and his comment...Otherwise...if there is some meat in it for me to explain to the reader, then will choose to deal with it.
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 12:45AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Abraham,
Let us go through this systematically, analytically and rationally, okay.
My first question to you is this. Have you noticed that Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and his people were Arabians, right? Am I right to learn from this that God matches the prophet and his people racially?
Answer that question for me, okay.
My aim is to show you that you are a confused individual to have embraced the religion of Islam while you are a Black American and not Arabian.
So, answer my question about God racially matching the prophet and his people before we move on to the next phase, okay.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 2:59AM
Harry Watley
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Ishmael, a muslim, helped in the spread of Islam in Africa. The influence of Islam through almost 3/4 of Africa was a positive one; libraries, schools, business, trade, research and much more. To the extent a country managed to embrace Islam, it mean't uniting with a strong allegence and partner of Asia.
So my embrace of Islam is no more than what millions of blacks in Africa had already done. If I would find a flaw or conflict in ideology with natural science, then I would abandon it but not so. The marriage between black people on the planet earth and Islam has engulfed great leaders, teachers, inventors, builders and much more.
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 6:56AM
jamal Abraham
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again, little you entitled your Blog interest, importance as Defamer Robert.
I Loved with All My Love Our Father Elijah Muhammad and the movement that He called THE Nation of Islam--1930-1975.
No member of the 100s of Members of the Personal Family of Our Father Elijah Muhammad is associated with the farrakhanMadoff version of little neoNoi--1978-2010!
In Fact most have publically commented, as Our Father would comment , this neoNoi is "Foolishness"!
neoNoi is not near AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as).
So all these hits and your intellect has not answered the 'purpose' of your Blag.
thats what falsehood is, diversion from the Truth.
oh little one do learn something.
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 9:04AM
robert powell
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Hello Jamal,
I regret to say that you have not answered my question.
My question was this, “Have you noticed that Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and his people were Arabians, right? Am I right to learn from this that God matches the prophet and his people racially?”
Your answer should be either a yes or a no!
Instead, your answer was an explanation of how Islam spread over ¾ of Africa. How Islam was a positive religion, and you go on and on.
However, there is no answer whether you understood that God racially matched Prophet Mohammed as an Arab man to his Arabian people.
So, again, would you please answer my question, definitively?
FYI, I as Black America’s first genuine prophet, I am commanded by God to answer all questions in an honest and up right way as well as straightforward. It is forbidden for me to dance around a question.
Since God has made me wiser than all Black Americans and White Americans there is no need for me to be jiving and shucking like the Negro slaves used to do.
My question was this, “Have you noticed that Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and his people were Arabians, right? Am I right to learn from this that God matches the prophet and his people racially?”
What say you?
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 9:46AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Robert,
You said this to Jamal, “So all these hits and your intellect has not answered the 'purpose' of your Blag. thats what falsehood is, diversion from the Truth.”
Even though you are right, it is amazing to me how you could accuse how you could accuse Jamal of falsehood and diversion from the truth when you have done the same.
I repeatedly asked you why you have embraced the religion of Islam when you know that you are a Black American and Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man.
You never answered my question, which amounts to falsehood and diversion from the truth, am I right.
So, what makes you right and Jamal wrong?
Please, answer my question. Why have you embraced the religion of Islam when you know that Prophet Mohammed was Arabian and you are a Black American man? Why do you want to serve the Arabian people when they are racially different from you? Do you not feel inferior to them?
Prophet Mohammed said in his last sermon that Arabian people are not superior to Black or White people and Black or White people superior to Arabian people, am I right. So, why are you religiously patronizing Arabian people by using their religion, Islam? So, why are you not looking to God for a religion and genuine prophet from God as was done with the Arabian people?
The religion of Black Americans is, “LIFE” and not Islam.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 10:08AM
Harry Watley
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Clark, how are you...No, not a personal insult if they insult NOI which is a body of people, not just one person. . Harry and Robert has insulted both Nation of Islam as well as me personally. So I am aware you are going with this....but they did both. This blog is heading for 400 hits...it is so remarkable how so many people are concerned about defamers of NOI. This is information to me. Thanks people, keep em comin.
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 10:23AM
jamal Abraham
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Harry, Islam is no more a religion for just Arabs than Christianity is a religion for just Europeans. What about the Australians for example that believe in Christianity. For some strange reason, have a hit a brick wall with you understanding that Islam is a universal religion for Chinese, Russians, Jamaicans, British, Haitians, Japanese, Blacks (America or Africa) and Arabs. That's why it would be good for you perhaps to GO BACK TO SCHOOL.
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 11:07AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
You still have not answered my question. Here is the question again.
Have you noticed that Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and his people were Arabians, right? Am I to learn from this that God matches the prophet and the people racially?
Another example, Prophet Moses was an Israelite and his people were the children of Israel [Israelites]. Am I to learn from this that God matches the Prophet and the people racially? Of course, by default of common sense I am to learn that the prophet and the people are always racially matched. Consequentially, the message that God has given to that specific prophet is only for his people.
Your answer should be either a yes or a no! In other words, yes, you have noticed that God have always matched the prophets and people racially. Or, no, you have not noticed.
It is baffling to me that with all your education I had to ask this question twice and this is the third time and you are unable to answer my question. When I experience this sort of stupidity, it encouraged me to say that you are an idiot, which is not insulting because I have every analytical and sensible right to say so.
As for me, no one could ever put me in a vice as I has put you, am I right.
In other words, you have not answered my question. What you have attempted to do is explain to me that Islam is a universal religion since Jamaicans, Chinese, Russians, Japanese and other races has embraced Islam as your certification that Islam is a universal religion. Not so, Jamal! My answer to your idiotic premise is that these different races you mentioned are as ignorant as you are since the same question I am putting to you they will also have to answer since they are not Arabian people.
So again, Jamal, Have you noticed that Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and his people were Arabians, right? Am I to learn from this that God matches the prophet and his people racially?
Are you continuously going to avoid answering my question?
FYI, when I had put the Christian pastor on the spot by asking him questions as devastating as I am asking you about your faith and religion, the Christian pastor politely asked me in privacy not to come back to Bible study or church. I also had put Farrakhan’s student minister on the spot in their study group over a year ago and the Muslim minister too politely asked me not to come back to the Muslim study group here in Winston-Salem North Carolina on 5th St.
When they try to dance around and avoid answering my question, I embarrassed them as I am now doing to you.
Again, would you please answer my question? Have you noticed that Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and his people were Arabians, right? Am I to learn from this that God matches the prophet and his people racially?
There are people that silently follows me and not necessarily your blogs. They follow the things I say and how you and others respond to me. Many of them hope that someone could trump my wisdom and they have not seen any to do so, so they could mock and ridicule me for claiming that I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. Am I making any sense with you? Perhaps, that is why this blog has as many hits as it does. Am I right to think so?
This past Sunday I was invited on the Brother Marcus radio show. Many BIA members avoid me. Some adamantly said they do not want to communicate with me. All the Muslim sites blocked by membership or thrown me off their sites. They all know and fear me. Who then could I be except what I have told you that I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. So of cause things are on the move. A change is coming and I am anointed to bring about that change. Black Americans are going to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.
I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way.
You, Jamal and Robert must let go of the religion of Islam and embrace your own religion, “ LIFE”.
I had asked Robert the same question for months now and he too had not answered my question, why?
So, answer my question and vindicate yourself as an idiot.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 2:13PM
Harry Watley
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Islam refers to persons with a mentality to push it into their own square box as an infidel. In all counts, Harry, you would thus be considered an infidel. The God of Islam is not an Arab God.....He is the One God.....The prophets are not all Arab but men of differant cultures. There is no way I can conform Islam to fit the ingredients of an infidel. It just cannot be done.
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 5:17PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
My goodness Jamal, when are you going to answer my question? It does not take a rocket scientist to answer my question.
Here is my question for the fourth time. Have you noticed that Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and his people were Arabians, right? Am I to learn from this that God matches the prophet and his people racially?
Now, this was your reply. “…..Harry, you would thus be considered an infidel… …..The God of Islam is not an Arab God.....He is the One God.....The prophets are not all Arab but men of differant cultures……There is no way I can conform Islam to fit the ingredients of an infidel.“
Firstly, I did not ask you anything about whether Harry is an infidel, am I right.
Secondly, I did not ask you whether God was Arab, right.
Thirdly, I did not ask you whether all the prophets were Arabs, am I right.
Lastly, I did not ask whether you could conform Islam to fit the ingredients of an infidel, am I right again?
Jamal, you and I know that only God is responsible for raising up prophets, am I right. So, my question to you is this. Have you noticed that Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and his people were Arabians, right? Am I to learn from this that God matches the prophet and his people racially?
How it is that with all your education and intelligence you cannot answer this question. However, I with an IQ of 68 and almost retarded knows the answer to the question. How it is you do not know the answer when the answer is staring you right in the face? That answer is a resounding yes. God have always racially matched the prophets to the people, racially speaking.
If you and Robert would answer my question your belief in Islam would fall apart since you are not Arabian. Jamal, your religion is, “LIFE”. In addition, I am your genuine prophet and not Prophet Mohammed. Prophet Mohammed belongs to the Arabian people and I belong to Black Americans. Am I making any sense with you?
I am who will lead Black Americans out of subjugation and into sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. Today, Black Americans are the apple of God eye. All Black Americans are eventually going to come to follow me.
So, when I say that you are an idiot I am not calling you out of your name. I am matching your inability to answer my question and at the same time wondering how you could be so educated. Therefore, the total sum of all the numbers is that you are an idiot.
Now, why do you not vindicate your stupidity and answer my question, Mr. Father of a new nation, huh?
What say you?
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 10:00PM
Harry Watley
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as for the little guy,
everyone knows I LOVE 1930-1975 Nation of Islam in NorthAmerica and I love Our Father Elijah Muhammad--
it is only neoNoi, liars, defamers and disrespecters that I care not for.........
harry , harry, how little you comprehend,
you again, say--“Have you noticed that Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and his people were Arabians, right? Am I right to learn from this that God matches the prophet and his people racially?”
NO NO your processing is slow, inaccurate and mentally and biologically Foolish..
you know my thoughts on Racialist Categorization based on skin color or area.
I, again, say to you for the millionth time, paganChristianEuropeans developed the classification of color for the Children of Adaam----to divide men and ways of thought from Monotheistic thought, to Racialism........
I have answered this over and over again, you just cannot understand English, english.
one who lives, thinks, feels and speaks Arabic is an arab.............
one who lives, thinks, feels and speaks english is english..............
one who lives, thinks, feels and speaks french is french................
Adaam was NOT a Racialist, Nuh was not a Racialist, Musa was not a Racialist, IsaIbnMaryam was not a Racialist, Mohamed(may Allaah reward all his Servants) was not a Racialist, so I am not a Racialist................
you, little, and others are Americans and you can describe yourself as colors.
I have a wife of american ancestry and children, I do not call them a color!
I have a wife of european ancestry and children, I do not call them a color!
I have a wife of african ancestry and children, I do not call them a color!
But you need science and biology proof of what I say.
You and little have said, and I agree; that Hajar, the wife of Ibraheem and mother of Ismaeel was of yemeni, or ethiopian ancestry--African.!
If we agree to that then we must follow that ancestry, Ismaeel was of Ibraheem and Hajar and Ismaeels descendants became the tribe Banu Kinanah and the tribe of Quraish which the family of Mohamed(as) was leadership..............another of the cousins of Mohamed(as) was the Banu Asad led by Aswad Ibn Mutaliib
all of these tribes from the stretch from the Yemen to Madina and accross the Red Sea, to Sudan.
the idea that a family with african linetage, living in 100-120 degree heat being physcially associated with anything but african, is Foolishness.
Mohamed(as) is the last Monotheistic Prophet from The Creator of Adaam, for Me, for you, for little, for the dalai lama, for pope, for oprah, for alice cooper...........................
AlQur'aan is the last Scripture from The Creator of Adaam for Me, for you, for little, for the dalai lama, for pope, for oprah, for alice cooper...........................
yourMind cannot take an answer because you are a question mark?
--if you divine, show divinity
--if you are sovereign, be sovereign
--if yourMind tells you these things, I believe that 99.998324 of Americans disagree with you. and I know its hard for 67IQ to grasp but for your mental well being you and little should.......
I ask the foregiveness of Allaah if I make a mistake.
Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 10:25PM
robert powell
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yes I am old and to yourMind i may be a knucklehead, ok, harry harry harry,
an OLD friend of mine from Japan died at 48years, he had 8 children, 4 of them in their teens.---
I believe I have already told you that I love all the Family of Adaam and I am a brother to all of Adaams descendants and I have a particular love of the richness of the culinary delicacies from around our planet. Many a time I could use the excuse that it was time for prayer just as His wife was preparing their family meal.
of course any Muslim will invite you to eat with them, and when my Great brother died, may Allaah reward him, I knew that my greatest gift to his family was to marry his wife and enjoy the growth of His children.
now another of our friends from Italy told me that He would appreciate that Honor, and He won out.
I say all this Harry because; yes as a Muslim I do not think or feel like a paganChristian and classify american, asian, african or european by a color and I know from LIFE expericence that in AlIslaam we pray, eat, fast, feel, live to the best of our abilities as Adaam, our head and Mohamed(as), our leader would have us.
you and little I understand as Americans have Divine work to do with the Racialist concepts first given to the sons and daughters of Adaam by the paganEuropeans.
good, do what you do, but as I said above you guys are question marks, to me.
Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 8:36AM
robert powell
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Robert,
After 448 hits. You have put the case most eloquently.
Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 9:47AM
Steve Williams
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Harry,
Of course a prophet is born in a certain location, into a certain community. But it does not follow that their teachings cannot be meant for anywhere in the world.
Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 10:20AM
Steve Williams
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Robert, sounds like you have rationalized a way of loving the devil. You are only fooling yourself. Why would God give us the ability to see color if color was non-important...........makes no sense.
Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 3:58PM
jamal Abraham
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I do not Love you. littleabraham!
Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 7:50PM
robert powell
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You can put a koofi, dashiki, dress or a scarf on the caucasian white.....they remain the devil.
Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 10:01PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Steve,
You said this, “Of course a prophet is born in a certain location, into a certain community.”
I do not think I used the words, location and certain communities, right. I believe that I was being more specific in my meaning. I said that the prophets are racially matched with the people that they came. I then went on to ask the question is there anything to be learned.
What I clearly see is that the prophet’s divine message is specifically for his people. I know that God chooses prophets, which means that the people have not the right to choose their own prophets. Does that make any sense to you Steve?
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 12:59AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Robert,
I believe that I had responded to your post about your Japanese friend that died, but I will try it again.
The issue was whether by God decree prophets are risen up from among their own kinds, which means that racially all prophets matches his people. So, I asked you and Jamal is there something to learn from God racially matching the prophet to his people. I certainly would think so having just an IQ of 68 while you all have IQs of average or above average. So, how is it that you all have not learned anything from this precedent of God?
Right away, what I see is that the message, inspiration and guidance that God implants in the prophet’s mind is specifically for his people and no other people. Now, because other people choose to embrace another people’s prophet message does not mean the message was for them. Am I making any sense with you?
For instance, you know Robert that Prophet Mohammed’s primary task was to convert his Arabian people from practicing paganism. Black Americans does not have the problem of pagan practice.
Another case in point, Prophet Moses primary task was to lead the Children of Israel out of bondage and slavery in Egypt. This problem was Moses and the children of Israel’s problem, which was entirely different from Prophet Mohammed’s problem with his pagan practicing Arabian people, am I right.
Another case in point, Prophet Jesus primary task was to reform the Jewish people. The Jewish people were much uncivilized to themselves. They killed each other. They did many religious inhumane acts to each other. However, as the Jesus crucifixion Apostle Paul created the religion of Christianity specifically for the European gentiles since the Jews rejected Jesus before and after his crucifixion.
None of all this has anything to do with Black Americans. We have our own divine problems that only God could resolve and only God raises up prophets to resolve problems, which stretches beyond the hand of man to resolve, am I right.
So, what are we to learn when we see that prophets are racially matched to their people?
Remember that the issue is not about your Japanese friend. You need to answer the question what is dear to learn when we see that all prophets have racially matched their people.
Incidentally, I believe that Jamal still deletes my comments. So, please check my blog, “Attention” for my response to you or whom ever, okay.
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 1:05AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “Robert, sounds like you have rationalized a way of loving the devil.”
There is no such thing as a specific Devil people. This irrational and ignorant concept was put out there by Mr. Elijah Muhammad. All different races of people have done some of the most unimaginable and inhumane things to their fellow human beings. Today we recognize these unimaginable and inhumane acts as genocide, am I right.
I told you before Jamal put down Mr. Elijah Muhammad’s teachings especially since it is deceased. Since you are much more educated than Elijah was you should be able to see many of his errors.
Nevertheless, you need to justify why you are following an Arabian Prophet Mohammed, the religion of Islam and Al Quran when you are a Black American who is a descendent of slaves, right.
I am saying this to you since you and I know that God grows up prophets only from among their own kinds. Do you not think that you look ignorant to the world to be a new breed or from a race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery to be sucking up to the Arabian people’s prophet, rituals, ways and customs? In other words, why do you practice Ramadan?
Do you and I had sense enough to desire your own religious rituals as our way of recognizing that God has visited us, Black Americans? The Jewish people have their specific ritual of the Passover recognizing that God had visited them through Prophet Moses.
Why is it that Black Americans are so ignorant that they would want to suck up behind other people rather than encourage God to give us our own?
Well, we do have our own. The first thing that God do when a people are visited is that God raises up a genuine prophet. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet of which other things God will do prove me on behalf of Black Americans. Am I making any sense or could you show me where I am wrong and trump the wisdom that God has given to me.
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 1:23AM
Harry Watley
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Hello Clark,
You said this, “And Steve, let Harry show us where Prophet Mohammad said his word was only for Arabs, and where Moses said his word was only for Jews.”
Clark, it is a matter of common sense. You should be able to rationalize it. If you have to read everything or be told everything then you are not using your brain.
Firstly, think about this. Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man. He was not the only Arab man in the world, right. So, since God gave him a message obviously who would that message be for, would it not be specifically for his Arabian people? Likewise, I am a Black American. So, God gave me a task to do. Would you think that the task given to me by God is meant for anyone else except Black Americans? If you do, otherwise you are rationalizing out of the ballpark. Am I making any sense with you?
Incidentally, if Jamal decides to delete this comment just go to my blog, “Attention” and you can read this response there, okay.
In addition, do you not see that Jamal and Robert who are devoted wannabe Muslim Arabs have never answered my question that the prophets are racially matched to the people God sent them? What is to be learned from this? If they do answer, my question they would automatically make themselves look foolish since they are not of the race of the religion [Islam] that they have embraced. Islam is specifically in Arabian religion. Buddhism is specifically a religion of India. Judaism is specifically a religion of Jewish people. By now you all should be connecting the dots, am I right.
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 1:40AM
Harry Watley
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Put a blanket on a pig, robert...and what you got...a pig in a blanket.....so put a blanket on a caucasian..and what you got....a devil in a blanket
Monday, April 19th 2010 at 10:09PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Robert,
It is unacceptable to me that you should use excuses that you used littles' [Jamal] lack of English comprehension and lack of proof reading.
Stand up on your own two feet and not blame anything that you did on Jamal, okay.
So take back what you said and acknowledge that a Nigerian is biologically, genetically and hereditarily different from a Swedish person, period.
What say you?
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 8:40AM
Harry Watley
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It is ME!
sometimes I use language that is championed by you , by bozo the clown, and even the street language of siebra. I love to use the style of jenFad, the heart of irma, the scholarship of clark and steve and even on occasion the seriousness of "the black jacklaLane", earl-father craig; and the literary and fair Excellence of Rich.
this is my attempt and my Love for the Family of Adaam and my humble help in the Change that Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama has asked All Americans to pursue.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 8:56AM
robert powell
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Robert, if you want your comments NOT to be deleted...then again...refer to me by my name.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 9:07AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Robert,
I want you to stop the bull****ing and not hide behind any one with the excuse that you use their language. Knucklehead, use your own language to express yourself.
Now, are you wrong that a Nigerian is biologically, hereditarily and genetically different from a Swedish person!
You standing up as a man and admitting when you wrong have nothing to do with Barack Hussein Obama, Siebra, Clark, Richard or myself. This is about you and you trying to dodged a bullet.
Now, is or is not a Nigerian biologically, hereditarily and genetically different from a Swedish person?
What say you?
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 9:13AM
Harry Watley
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Harry, stick with the issues.....I will delete anyones comments cannot address me properly....as Father of a new Nation....I must teach a made blind, deaf and dumb people (black Americans) how to respect their leader...all over again.. This is after the blue-eyed devil has had 400 years to work on their slaves and make them desrespectful and stupid.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 11:05AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Robert,
We could get to the issue of why you practice Ramadan later. Right now, let us clarify whether a Nigerian is essentially the same as a Swedish person. Let us work on that issue first, okay.
Now, in all of your scholarship do you believe that a Nigerian is the same as a Swedish person?
Right now we are teaching and learning from each of the how to conduct a fruitful and an orderly conversation. We are civilizing each other since no other people could really civilize another people. In other words, a conversation is orderly and fruitful that we clear up issues before we jump to another issue. Does that make sense to you? It should!
So in all of your scholarships do, you believe that a Nigerian is the same as a Swedish person.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 5:20PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Jamal,
Jamal, let me tell you something. If you are not a police officer, then understand me well. Police officers demands respect. Leaders’ earnings respect.
Police officers use batons, guns, handcuffs and jails to get respect. Leaders use wisdom, intelligence, facts and rationale to get respect.
A leader does not threaten to get respect. When you do something like that, you are straddling the line. That is, you are playing police officer and leader at the same time. Really, you are trying to lead by bullying and using threats. You need to stop that, okay.
If God before you, then who could be against you, am I right.
I know what I am talking about from experience. Ever since, I was a kid at the age of 11 or 12 years old. There were approximately 7 of us that hung out together. We went and did almost everything together. That is how close the seven of us were. Naturally, as nature would have it so one out of the seven would emerge as a leader. Sometimes that natural leader would emerge because he is older or because he is smarter. Good leaders hardly emerge by way of bullying unless you are leading a gang of thugs.
I am very confident of my intelligence and I lead by intelligence. I have never and would never delete anyone or threaten to delete him or her if I am made unhappy. You, Jamal should be the same.
The reason why those African countries are in shamble is that their leaders are thugs themselves. Thugs do not have intelligence.
As many ignorant people that comes down on President Obama, Obama always responds charismatically and intelligently, am I right. At the end of the day he has made his adversary idiots in the news people has the ball. Jamal you need to use your intelligence and not your emotions.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 5:43PM
Harry Watley
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I have a Ghanaian Muslim brother I pray with everyday, he is married to and has 4 children with a Muslim from Denmark---their oldest son and my youngest are the same age, and rivals in Tajweed AlQur'aan, Algebra, Arabic, German and Basketball.
I think the Ghanaian, His Wife, their Children are the same as my Family....
Tell me some more of what youAll hate,
Fathers of a new nation of ragtag paganChristian thinkers going ober to Africa or some other sovereign land that usaGovernment will welfare it.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 7:38PM
robert powell
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Harry, you're wheezing like a skunk
In this world, there are opportunities that come and go and they each have their limits of challenges. As for me, a young scientist, the way challenges are met is my way and apparently it pleases Allah the God. So I do NOT HAVE TO PLEASE HARRY. Have not had much run in with police officers, so would not know much of what you say....all I know is to be just and that is what I am.....in the Islam Flag there is the the star in the flag for "Justice"....so little Abraham will make sure that in the new world, there will be justice for all. This Blog is about defamers of Islam here in the West. The Nation of Islam is the establishment of Islam here in America. And it deserves the respect that other religions receive in other nations. Never in my life have I heard the kind of slander against the Nation of Islam as I have heard from Harry and Robert. They should quit or will be under the curse of Allah the God of the Universe.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 8:47PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
I do believe that you entirely misunderstood the essence of what I tried to say to you.
Firstly, you do not have to have had a running with the police to understand what I was saying. I need someone who is honest, upright and in good faith that is willing to dialogue rationally and intelligently. Many Black Americans regardless of their religion does not fit into such a category as honest, upright and in good faith, am I right.
Okay, let me see if you can understand this. You mentioned the flag of Islam, which has a star for justice. Philosophically speaking, let us talk about justice for a moment, okay. Do you know what justice means in the sphere of our relationship over the months that I have known you? Well, let me tell you what justice means from your perspective because you said what justice is to you.
This is what you said, “As for me, a young scientist, the way challenges are met is my way and apparently it pleases Allah the God.”
This comment comes from the mind of a religious fanatic, a mentally deteriorated mind. Fanatic Muslims rages jihad because in their deteriorated fanatical mind, it is their way, and of course, they always say it pleases Allah, am I right.
However, I could give you a perfect example of what justice is, philosophically speaking since we are not talking about criminal justice. Criminal justice is a different matter, okay.
This is what philosophical justice is. There is a story about an exchange between God and the Devil. God asked the Devil what you are doing. The Devil said I am looking to devour whom I could. God asked the Devil had Job been considered. The Devil said it would be a waste of his time to devour Job since you [God] protects Job. But, I [Devil] know that if Job was not protected I could devour him.
Now, if you study the conversation of both God and the Devil there is much to learn.
Firstly, it was a very well intelligent and rational conversation that the Devil put forth or challenges God.
Secondly, the Devil challenged the justice of God, when the Devil said Job is protected, but if he was not I would devour Job.
God intrinsically intelligent and know what just means knew that the Devil had made a very good point and met the Devil’s point with justice and removed the protection or God favors for Job. Of course, we all know God was right all along about Job’s righteousness. But how else could it have been proven if God did not allow the Devil to try his hand?
So, if you are going to be a bully, tell someone it is your way and delete comments that you do not like, how else could anyone know that you are intelligent? No one could know whether you are intelligent or stupid if you are not willing to stand up justly, intelligently and rationally to someone’s challenge.
What those African leaders do as in Zimbabwe, they kill their adversary, which is incivility, am I right. Such does not happen in a civilized, just an upper right Society such as in White America or England. Jamal you have much civilizing to do on yourself. I know that if you had you wish a person like me you would kill and call it justice sanctioned by Allah, am I right. However, civilize Caucasians would never do that over an election, am I right.
Am I making any sense with you or do you still think I am wheezing as a skunk?
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 10:14PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Cynthia,
You play both sides do you not?
Judas played both sides, am I right. That is one of the definitions of an abstract Christian.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 10:17PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Robert,
Even though I have an IQ of 68, I am intelligent enough to know that I cannot dialogue with you. You are not on the same page as I am. You consistently talk about other things. You consistently avoid answering my questions honestly and in good faith. As a result, I will just drop it.
I could only deal with those on my own level of intelligence. As the law of physics goes, water seeks its own level. You are well below my level and it is no fun dialoguing with you. I cannot resolve any problems with you. We are not getting anywhere. The same problems we started out with are the same problems we have now that is still unresolved. This type of behavior is typical of an ignorant Negro.
My task of raising 41 million ignorant Black Americans from a dead level to a living perpendicular is very difficult and I knew that when I was anointed. However, God knows I will persevere.
Everything that I say is true and is going to happen.
Okay.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 10:24PM
Harry Watley
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You play both sides do you not?
Judas played both sides, am I right. That is one of the definitions of an abstract Christian.
AM I ONE OF YOUR FOLLOWERS??? ..... AND NOW I'VE PORTRAYED YOU? Is that what you are trying to tell me?
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 10:32PM
Cynthia Merrill Artis
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Hello Cynthia,
I do not want to have any arguments, which is so typical of our people. Some things are too difficult for our fragile minds to deal with since our mentality has been destroyed due to slavery, subjugation, and racism and self-hating.
You should first buckle yourself down and ask yourself is Harry a mean, no good, stupid and ignorant person. Or, is Harry good, rationally and intelligent who means Black Americans good. You must ask yourself these questions and decide if you can mentally handle the things I say.
You cannot favor me at one time and at other times talk against me. You have to make up your mind if I am good or bad.
Ask yourself these questions and then we could continue dialoguing since one day, we are going to meet each other in person.
I am telling you that I am Black America’s first genuine prophet and everything that I say is going to happen.
Tell me what you think.
Tuesday, April 20th 2010 at 11:25PM
Harry Watley
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you and farrakhan are just Madoff emotional and financial thieves.
Either you are a Muslim or you are not.
AlQur'aan, Sunnah of Mohamed(as), Hadeeth, Shahaddah and Seerah of 1431+ years Validate Deen AlIslaam.
anyone who believes that in 1930, in Detroit, a band of ragtime, negroChristians accepted AlQur'aan, Sunnah of Mohamed(as), Hadeeth, and Seerah of 1431+ years and made Shahaddah is foolish, in the words of Elijah Muhammad.
Elijah Muhammad has been Dead for 35 years and Allaah will judge him, but NO member of His family accepts any thinkers of any ragtime 2010 group that interjects Racialism, and claims that a Man in 1930 was 'god in the person' is a paganChristian, fbicia or something other than AlIslaam.
you ,little, defame AlIslaam and the Muslims in many nations from America to Indonesia.
Wednesday, April 21st 2010 at 7:47AM
robert powell
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P.S. If you (Robert) want to continue making your venom public on my profile page by all means be my guest. My COPY and PASTE function is in perfectly working order.
Wednesday, April 21st 2010 at 1:46PM
Siebra Muhammad
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This points to the nature of the blog....Apparently it takes something close to animal to behave such as to defame the Nation of Islam. The testimony is in this blog of over 600 hits.
Thursday, April 22nd 2010 at 1:18PM
jamal Abraham
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Have not heard a Christian male call a Christian female on this site a "B.....", yet I hear a so-called Muslim senior call a young Muslim sister a "b.....". A Muslim is suppose to be wiser than a Christian....The moral to the story is that Robert is a disgrace to Islam and should be classified as such.
Friday, April 23rd 2010 at 10:03AM
jamal Abraham
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again little deleter,
I own all that I say,
I do not use B.I.T.C.H. for most men or women.
but if i ever used it I would surely refer to little, on this Blog, at your house, in court, at fbiheadquarters---
dis·grace
Definition:
1. state of being disapproved of: shame or loss of respect arising from bad behavior
2. cause of shame or disrespect: a cause of shame or loss of respect
Crimianl Behavior is a disgrace,
Again,
I have offered to finace a trip for you , I and siebra to the seat of AlIslaam in The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
You can take your Writings, and siebras writings with you. You can cut and past and bring your Lies about my Writings..........
I pledge that if my behaviour has been disrespectful or criminal by AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as); i will accept any and all punishemnt Even if my actions are deemed Capital.
Saturday, April 24th 2010 at 7:31AM
robert powell
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Hello to All,
The bottom line of the disputes between you three so-called Muslims is ignorance. You all are arguing about Islam and what a Muslim is when in fact neither of you are Muslims.
A Muslim is of the same race of Prophet Mohammed. Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man in Allah rose him up from among the Arabian people for the sole purpose of converting Arabian people from paganism to monotheism.
The Sura of Jonah says that Allah has sent every nation Messengers and Prophets. It goes on to say that, the Prophet speaks the language of his people just as Prophet Mohammed spoke Arabic, which is the language of the Arabian people.
Now, Robert has learned the Arabic language, which is not his language. Siebra and Jamal follows a prophet that God had not sent to them since they are not of the same race as Prophet Mohammed is. In addition, all three of them have embraced Islam and the Quran, which is not theirs since they are Black Americans who are a new breed a race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. Needless to say that the reason for the arguments and disputes is that all three of them are ignorant. Am I right or am I wrong?
I am their prophet that will permanently resolve our problems in White America and the name of our religion is, LIFE
As ignorant people that we have been for over 500 years we have been following the ways, customs, religions and rituals of all of the people, am I right. The time has come that this ignorant practice is going to end.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, May 15th 2010 at 2:31PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Siebra,
It will take time for you to wake up as it took time for the Arabian people to wake up to the wisdom of Prophet Mohammed. It took time for the children of Israel to wake up to Prophet Moses as well.
I asked you if you understood the Sura of Jonah. Your reply post as long as it was mentioned nothing about Jonah. All that you did was criticize, complain and whine about me, which does not help the dialogue at all.
So, rather than repeat myself let me show you how ignorant you are from what you said.
You said this, “I can't speak for Jamal, but I'm more convinced than EVER Robert is complaining about me and Jamal deleting his posts because he is really afraid of the knowledge we both drop.” and you said this, “It's more than obvious that Robert does it because HE fears ME and what I know.”
Siebra, Robert could not be the one with the fear since Robert is not the one doing the deleting. The persons that have the fear are the ones doing the deleting, which is you and Jamal.
I told you before that we are some ignorant people. You cannot even rationalize squarely. You believe that Robert fears your knowledge and that is why you delete the things he says. Now, how ignorant and stupid that rationale is, Ms. Siebra? If Robert fared your wisdom then he would be doing the deleting, am I right. You have it backwards because your rationale, knowledge and wisdom are backwards.
At any rate, you all are arguing amongst yourselves, which shows that Islam is of no use to you.
If you were intelligently courteous, you would be discussing with me what the Sura of Jonah means instead of criticizing, whining and complaining.
Tell me what you think.
Saturday, May 15th 2010 at 5:20PM
Harry Watley
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Harry, I delete your and Robert's comment from my blog for the main reason that his talk is malicious and evil, truly opposite of having any peace. My actions have nothing to do with fear. I was taught or raised to fear no man but Allah so truth is my only attachment. With that said, who is really the one with the fear?
Saturday, May 15th 2010 at 6:02PM
Siebra Muhammad
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negroSlave women were given an opportunity under master to treat Men, like boys.
Africa and AlIslaam DID NOT allow a female -- pre1492---to act as paganChristianity has taught her from 1492-I guess now 2010 with siebrasMouth.................
she deletes yet she accuses of some not wanting Truth...
I live and die with Truth---and your characterizations are of littleIntellect, have littleScholarship and are used by littleGirls and littleBoys...........
Sunday, May 16th 2010 at 9:54AM
robert powell
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Jamal, I thought you said to robert that you had deleted him because he was making PERSOANL ATTACKS ON YOU NOT THE NOI...so which is it...the NOI or you, Jamal. and if you have deleted it how can you still have proof taht his happened?
JUST ASKING, and I am sure administration will be asking this also...how can one defend something to help you if they don't know any thing about it in the first place...(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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And, may "I" add to this mix by saying to Jamal...When "I" say "I" am a N.D. Buddhist and you recreate me and my choices of free will along with free speech by making me into your image or lack of education that I am not a Buddhist, but a N.D. Buddhist, you have not only insulted me but you have insulted the whole concept of Buddhism as it dictates taking full and complete responsibility for what ones does in their enviornment...AND, LYING "I" DO BELIEVE IS NOT A POSITIVE : ON/ IN/ FOR ANY ENVIORNMENT (SOCIAL ORDERS)...
ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS CHOICES. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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aND, Harry are you sajying that you were insulting or praising Jamal on robert's blog not long ago? lol
But, Harry, you are in great company , because when you say / believe that any and all who disagree with you are mentally ill...When G.W. Bush was president, he used this logic the whole time he was in office. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Thank you so very much Clark...but, have you noticed how the very ones who have so much to say about deleting are the very ones who delete out what a commenter on their blog says and on the same blog turn around what was actually said and try to make a false made up logical argument against the comment of that person????? And, to make matters worst they actually believe that unless these very people allow them full and conplete control over thems so that they can save them from themselves as the justification of this behavior. loooooooooooooooooooooooool
Which leads right back around in that circle of never answering a factual question to try and get to the bottom of the matter....case in point...or even whaer the post is suppose to be going past allowing the blogger to prove how uneducated and unworthy and unproductive those are who dare to question them in any way form or fashion especially if in what they see as different than how their world see a matter, no see all matters...
I asked this person who says someone has given a personal attack when the theme of the blog was make in the "I" form...so I asked when in the world does the "I" form not deemed as PERSONAL??????? Or, better know in Standard English as the FIRST PERSON. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Thank you also Rich for the ???????????????????????????? efforts to get answered. (SMILE)
I wish the best for you and thanks Jamal for this teaching moments...EDUCATE!
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Jamal, you just showed examples why "I" never take emotional out burst as any thing othere that what I keepprovying they ar e me, things to be changed according to the situation /issue...you just changed your own blog about you own conclusion of A-L-L White people to this is not the point of you own blog, AT THAT (or is it at this) TIME...in you reply to brother Richard...you know that White man and Chritical Teaching public school teacher. (smile)
You change my saying to you directly why I keep saying ND Buddhism, becuase like another "religion' they keep disagreeing iwth which is the right,, correct way to practice so they keep changing their names...now you are using you are ignorant of this...again "I" avoid stress expecially the ones that says someone other than that person is an expert on that person...as so many tend to do, because their have deemed themselves the salvior of others according to race, skin color, religion , ect. (smile)
NOT MY PROBLEM WHICH YOU ALSO HAVE CHANGED TO MY SAYING THIS IS SAYING THAT "YOU" HAVE A PROBLEM. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Hey Jamal, have you seen my comment on your blog on... can Black Muslims live in peace....
(smile)
This blog reminds me of my answer to that question and why I always say I am a N.D. Buddhist and not a Buddhist...Jamal, you and robert and Harry are Muslims, correct?
lol
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT THE ROCKEFELLERS...AND, W-E ARE STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO DEFEND YOUR OWN ARGUMENT BEHIND THE THEME OF YET ONE MORE OF YOUR BLOGS.............YES WE ARE. LOL (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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Jamal are you planning to establish your own religion in your own 'country' is this the desperate need to separate people from what they have and to give it to you (or ) Harry?
You sure don't seem to have a master plan or a back up plan as you jeep chinging as you go...what kind of a leader is it tah can't answer a question? like where is your country going to be????
If you are in need of people to just send you their email adress to get started then allyou really need is a good hacker. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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delete Robert's comment from my blog for the main reason that his talk is malicious and evil, truly opposite of having any peace. My actions have nothing to do with fear. I was taught or raised to fear no man but Allah so truth is my only attachment. With that said, who is really the one with the fear?
Saturday, May 15th 2010 at 5:02PM
Siebra Muhammad
you delete/block because I give you AlQur'aan, the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw) and the History, Scholarship and Science of the 2 Bllion Muslims on Earth..............You fear Truth and Cannot/Read or HATE to READ the Words of Allaah...............
Saturday, December 27th 2014 at 6:35PM
robert powell
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