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Mega churches are extra-large churches that can accommodate upwards of 15,000 people. Megachurches, where pastors often act as chief executives and use business tactics to grow their congregations. This is not what Jesus was about. Jesus told the one man to give up all the possessions he had and come follow him. The extravagent pastors and wide screen TV even Blu Ray high definition monitors are just the opposite of the teachings of Jesus. But, the money........according to Scott Thumma, professor of sociology and religion at Hartford Seminary "the mega church on average has about $6.5 million in income a year." This entrepreneurial approach has contributed to the explosive growth of megachurches--defined as non-Catholic churches with at least 2,000 members--in the U.S. one-tenth of the megachurches are associated with historically African American denominations, such as African Methodist Episcopal, (A.M.E.), and the Church of God in Christ (COGIC). Instead of pews they have theatrical seating and lighting. Wow....isn't that nice. Almighty God says to you and me that to be truthful and righteous, it is more simple than the mega church. This is not what the God of Jesus taught. A false show of happiness is conveyed. You miss the person in the mud and in the ditch that God is after. What about the rejected and despised......They would not fit in the Mega Church.
Posted By: jamal Abraham
Wednesday, April 14th 2010 at 10:28PM
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Hello Jamal,
Well, tell me what you think about Mr. Elijah Muhammad, Mr. Farrakhan and NOI having bled poor Black Americans over 70 years?
Do you believe there is no different concerning the mega-churches and the NOI?
There are Blacks that have been in the NOI for 35 or 50 years and have contribute a small fortune on the illusion that Black America’s separation and having our own that Elijah could never have fulfilled, am I right.
Talk to me about it, perhaps you may think that I am wrong.
I hope that you would not consider my comment in question defaming the NOI. Please, do not since all that I am doing is inquiring. As it is said, inquiring minds want to know, right.
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 2:50AM
Harry Watley
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Messenger Elijah Muhammad used the monies donated to the Nation of Islam for business enterprise. Monies were not used for extravagent and lavish lifestyle of pastors. The businesses, factories, farmland, farm animals, trucks and printing industry in addition to the some 100 mosques across the country. But, these mega churches are clearly looking out for soaking the poor and middle class of their hard earned income. The church should not be run like a multi-million dollar fundraiser for illigitimate pastors and preachers. When are these mega churches giving millions to the poor in the way of a food kitchen or source for college grants for the poor.
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 5:07PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
I am not discounting that the monies donated to Mr. Elijah Muhammad and the NOI were used for business enterprises. However, the point that I am trying to get across to you is that the common members of the NOI has nothing to show for their individual donor nations that added up to a small fortune over the years. Now, when I say that the common members has nothing to show for their donations is that somewhere in their minds they truly thought that Muslims under the leadership of Elijah Muhammad would somehow be, a sovereign people on a portion of this continent, otherwise Mr. Elijah Muhammad would have never lived the lavish and extravagant lifestyle that he lived, am I right.
Mr. Farrakhan is doing the same thing, robbing our poor Black people out of our monies. Take for instance, the mosques bought with our monies those buildings became the possession of his son W. D. Muhammad, am I right. That is how the will and settlement handed down by the courts of White America. Mr. Farrakhan have since purchased his own buildings with the monies he continues to milk our poor Black people, am I right.
When you are truly, a prophet of God salvation does not cost the people anything. Moses never charged his people for the Exodus. Prophet Mohammed never charged his Arabian people to be converted to Islam, am I right.
So, what I am saying is that Mr. Elijah Muhammad could not make good on our sovereignty. Furthermore, the idea of buying farmlands [real estate of White America] will always belong to White America unless biting at the God Black Americans would inherit a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Mr. Elijah Muhammad said that purchasing farmlands were a basis of our independence. That is ridiculous to think that buying farmlands from White America is somehow a substitute for our sovereignty. I told you before that Mr. Elijah Muhammad and Dr. Fard Muhammad were not very intelligent men, am I right. Have I made any sense to you?
I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way.
Tell me what you think.
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 10:34PM
Harry Watley
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Well, Harry...there you have it
A messenger of God must deliver the message and provide an example. This Messenger Elijah Muhammad did. For 45 years he dedicated his life for the life giving teachings to Black America and a thorough knowledge of ourselves. What the nation of Islam does with the teachings is not the fault of the messenger but of the people thereafter. Yet, here we have these Mega churches attracting thousands of people.....that give their money adding up to the millions each year. The pastors are further glorified, each one thinking they are God. And some of them white people have black Americans fainting, falling out all with the fanfare from the church production . It seems like first they murder a righteous man of God, namely Jesus. Then they tell the black Americans that he has risen and will come back and solve all of your problems. Instead of him coming back, we get the mega church with hollywood style performances and lavish ornaments. Large TV's with huge speakers that come short of bringing on Jesus (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) but they do a good job of making worshipper emptying out their pockets.
Thursday, April 15th 2010 at 11:40PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
I understand what you are saying about the mega-churches. The mega-churches are on my agenda. Did I not say that the Pastor Dr. Churn, Sr. of Mount Zion Baptist Church in Winston-Salem, N.C. asked me not to come back to Bible study? The churches in my locale are becoming acquainted with me.
However, I want you to understand that the NOI is also a problem to Black Americans.
I have repeatedly said that I want Black Americans out of the churches and the mosques. Black American mosques embrace our own religion, Life and sovereignty.
Again, we are going to inherit a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.
I am Black America’s first genuine prophet.
Tell me what you think.
Friday, April 16th 2010 at 12:31AM
Harry Watley
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YOU ,Harry, are not a prophet nor are you genuine
Friday, April 16th 2010 at 1:39AM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Jamal,
You said this, “YOU ,Harry, are not a prophet nor are you genuine”
Well, let us rationalize your outlook about me, okay.
Firstly, I must be our first genuine prophet since I have the wisdom to point out Mr. Elijah’s misconception of buying farmlands, jet plane and chains of Shabazz restaurants is somehow the bases for Black America’s independence and separation from White America [The Devil] who you so much believe that somehow Mr. Elijah Muhammad was a Divine Messenger for Black Americans, am I right. But, Black America’s situation is no better than when Mr. Elijah was alive. This is why I said to you before that Black Americans do not need a messenger. Black Americans needs a prophet. A prophet reaps permanent results. Did not Moses take the Children of Israel out of Egypt [The Exodus]? Did not Prophet Mohammed convert his Arabian people from paganism to Islam? I will take Black Americans out of subjugation and bondage into sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Again, genuine prophets reap permanent results while messengers are obsolete. Am I making any sense with you?
Secondly, your outlook of me is merely rejecting your prophet, which is commonly done by all people throughout the ages, and my right. Prophet Jesus was rejected. Prophet Moses was rejected early on, right. Prophet Mohammed was rejected early on as well. So, it is not unusual that the prophet’s people would reject him, right.
Anyway, the point that I am making to you is that since you accepted Mr. Elijah as somehow a Messenger and I have shown you how faulty his direction and teachings were, then at the least, I am wiser than Elijah was so you should consider me by all rational account to be your genuine prophet. Does that make sense to you, Jamal?
Lastly, I have clearly pointed out that Allah God rose up prophets from among their own kinds, which clearly indicates that prophets and the people they came to are racially matched, right. Since Mr. Fard Muhammad [a foreigner] was a devout follower of Prophet Mohammed who is not of our kinds it is crystal clear to see that you [Jamal] has been misled by Mr. Elijah Muhammad for all your life. However, fault not Mr. Elijah Muhammad since he was ignorant to begin with and was taken advantage of by Mr. Fard Muhammad.
I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way. It is but a matter of time before all Black Americans gravitate to our true religion, “LIFE” and me.
You know as well as I do that I am right since when ever I hit you with some hard truth you would delete my comment, which psychologically shows you are in denial you and simultaneously shows that I am your genuine prophet.
Tell me what you think.
Friday, April 16th 2010 at 10:18AM
Harry Watley
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Harry, What !
When Almighty God raises up prophets, the men become much wiser. Much like when God raised up Moses, Lot , David and Solomon....these "men" became wiser. Even when God raised up Messenger Elijah Muhammad, He made this "man" of grade school learning wiser than kings.
But, you, Harry, that claim God raised you up are more ignorant than a grade schooler. So ignorant you are that you refuse to claim your ancestors in Africa. Even grade schoolers are smart enough to know that Africa is our motherland. There is no reason for a human being to follow you Harry....due to your immense pack of ignorance.
Sunday, April 18th 2010 at 10:25AM
jamal Abraham
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Clark, .......You say....."they are wasting their time going around and around with essentially someone who has the reasoning power of an inanimate object>>>>
THAT IS SO TRUE
(and funny too)
Sunday, April 18th 2010 at 12:55PM
jamal Abraham
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Hello Abraham,
Let us dive into your emotions of envy and jealousy towards me and see if we could make rhyme and reasoning out of your comments, okay.
For instance, you believe that I have rejected our African ancestors when in fact, we have no African ancestors and if you thought that Africans are our ancestors then White people are our ancestors as well, whom you call Devils, am I right. In addition, if you believe that Africa is our motherland, then you must also believe that England is our Fatherland as well. I said that to say this. We are a people that have emerged out of the ashes of slavery when White American people bred themselves with the African slave people that they purchased from the slave traders. Consequentially, we, Black Americans came from both Africans and British Caucasian people. However, since Black Americans of 41 million people you would have to say that we are a new breed or race of people rather than a result of an interracial affair, am I right. So, Africa is not our Motherland and England is not our Fatherland. Our homeland is a portion of this continent that we came into existence. Am I making any sense to you? Now, if you were wiser than I am you would have seen this point.
Well, you have to eat enough sense to recognize that all genuine prophets of God becomes wiser as to time passes and that is because as I have said that God constantly inspires them, which is the case with me.
Let me point out a little more of my wisdom. You included Messenger Elijah Muhammad among the prophets, right. Have you not noticed that his title is Messenger while my title is Prophet, Mohammed’s title was Prophet and Moses’ title was Prophet as well? So, how it is that Elijah’s title is different. Could you provide an explanation to the audience? Rather than I tell you the answer it would be better that you exercise your right show ability to come up with the appropriate answer, okay.
Lastly, when you show such strong emotions against me it is that you are rejecting me for the moment as all people have done when a genuine prophet emerges in their midst. It is commonplace for this high emotion and rejection. However, as the dust settles you all will eventually accept me since our sovereignty on the portion of this continent that we could call our very own country is greater than your emotions and my prophet-hood.
Tell me what you think. She
Sunday, April 18th 2010 at 11:38PM
Harry Watley
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Hello Clark,
Are you serious when you say that God favoring Black America’s plea to come together under the umbrella of sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders is a sort of cult gathering? If something as grand as our sovereignty could happen by the end of this month would you be against it or would you support it?
In other words, do you believe that our sovereignty is synonymous to a cult?
Please explain, okay.
Sunday, April 18th 2010 at 11:48PM
Harry Watley
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